Its kind of sad now, that the 80s and 90s martial arts movies don't exist anymore. Back in the 70s, when Bruce Lee brought out of the Kung Fu Craze in the World, everybody start to take up martial arts and that's why we had martial artists in movies and they were great. Sadly, as the kids are spoiled today it's going to be hard to get that back. Even again, Hollywood is doing non-original movies (sequels, remakes, reboots), martial arts movies will be hard to revive today. Lastly, as Donnie Yen is about to do Hollywood's Kung Fu Movie Remake of the 1972 TV Series, he'll will be the last Asian martial arts actor to do martial arts movies and he won't do a lot of movies because as everyone is aging, they won't do the things they used to do back then.
At least there are still quite a number of martial artists still making TV shows and movies today. Recent TV shows such as Warrior (produced by Bruce Lee's daughter, Shannon Lee), and many stars of the TV shows also have many martial arts projects yet to be announced.
I love the HK movies of the late 70s, 80s and 90s. With stars like Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Chow Yuen Fatt, Stephen Chow and so on, HK movies back then dare to try different things although they have a habit of following a trend like the 1st Mr vampire movie which was a hit and everyone follow the trend in making vampire and ghost comedy movies. Golden Harvest and Cinema City were the big 2 movie studios that compete in the box offices especially during the Chinese New Year season where there will be either a Jackie Chan movie or Stephen Chow movie which people will queue up to watch. However after 1997, things change a lot especially China regulations that restrict HK movie makers creativity. Which is why now if you see the HK movies of today, it is either a crime drama like internal affairs or a triad movie that is about the big gangsters of the past. No more supernatural movies, no more slapstick movies. It's really sad that HK movies has fallen so much...
I know it is not in the Martial Arts genre , but when I saw Derek Tsang's movie 'Better Days' starring Zhou Dongu, it was one of the best things I'd seen in years, and the most moved I was since Wong Kar Wai in the early 90s. So I know that the Island is still packing some awesome movie-making.Sure I wish really do Chow makes a new movie every year, but I know that's never going to happen , and Bruce Lee is still the only person (IMHO) to match Humphrey Bogart for on-screen charisma, but maybe the HK movies could be in different style. I hope it will rise again, and soon.
While King Hu had a strong influence for sure, it's worth nothing he quickly left HK and the Shaw studios for Taiwan. His style of filmmaking had much less of an impact on the years that followed in Hong Kong than the works of Chang Cheh and Lau Kar-Leung, who were both massive draws at the box office before and during Bruce Lee's fame as well. In fact John Woo was a former assistant to Chang Cheh and shares with him a certain approach to stylized violence as well as a focus on masculinity and friendship (the famous yangyang genre).
With Bruce Lee gone and the GOATS like Sammo, Jackie, Donnie, Jet, and Stephen Chow are all aging, and as of right now mainland China and HK cinema haven't been able to create stars to replace those guys. And so once they're gone mainland China cinema and HK cinema's popularity will decrease even further.
Better pronunciation of the chinese would be a plus, and a mention of competition from the growing mainland chinese film industry, and it’s a pity that all the mentioned movie stars are men, but altogether this is an excellent overview
You missed out an important issues: HK productions used to be run by very limited staffs, often the same person had to be producer, director and editor at the same time. This gave them complete creative freedom. Today's film industries put too much concerns on what audience want, there by telling the director how to shoot. Look at how Hollywood backfired from trying to play diversity.
After the death of Bruce Lee, I can say that really Hong Kong cinema started to disappear in the United States. And this is from a person who lives in the San Francisco Bay area. I hed heard of Jackiee Chan, and he even acted in a few American films, but the fact was we could not get his films here in the USA. I saw that one moive, can't think of the title, but it has the famous bus scene and where he goes down that chandalier. I saw that on a poor VHS tape. Only in the 90's was there a chance to see these films.
the biggest problem of hk cinema is that they over rely on sensationalism. All the logic and plausibility does not really matters, this makes their audiences becoming more and more irrational and sometimes insane. then when things turn south, they blame china. dude, china is just a market
I think Hallyu was also a major factor in the accelerated decline. The 1st wave in particular was geared towards cinema and soaps, i.e. direct competition. The 1st wave began after the Asian crisis and Y2K had already arrived in Europe, albeit only in a niche.
Those movies need not just actors. They need good fight Choreographers. The best, Yuen Woo-ping is old. And does he have a successor ? The actor Gordon Liu had a stroke. He was in Kill Bill, and 36 Chambers of Shaolin... Jet Li, Donnie Yen, and Jacky Chan are old, and cannot do those stunts any more. And they cannot find guys to replace them. They can "Dance" their way through a scene. Not actual combat moves. Did you know Donnie had a stunt double in YipMan 2 ? He declined to face the sifu, the short guy, with the high kicks. Did you know Jet Li and Donnie Yen were classmates ? in China Wu Shu School ? We were surprised Donnie agreed to do a scene with Tyson at his age. Many current Hong Kong TV stars were not trained. Michelle Yeoh is old, and she did some easy stuff in Disney's "...10 rings..." Jack Chan has a classmate, Yuen Wah, who appeared in " ...10 rings..." and Kung Fu Hustle, is also old. The main problem is: lack of good stories, and properly trained actors. The future of martial arts movies will come from South Korea, Vietnam, and Thailand. Their men have some training. But it is difficult to find someone to replace Michelle Yeoh.
Just take a look at the hundreds of video content from China on Netflix and other streaming services, and you'll see that the issue is the lack of execution on good storytelling. Of course, I get that theme censorship is a huge contribution to the lack of innovation, but I just feel like the industry in broader China is too closely controlled by a small group of people that needs to risk it on some independent filmmakers to spice things up.
Nah bro warriors of the future is TRAAAASH LOL, but the main character of the movie(Louis Koo) has produced one of my favorite animated movies,Mitchell’s vs the machines on Netflix.
Laughable to blame 1997 handover which had no relevance to the downfall. Starting in the 90s the rampant and organized bootleg vcd/DVD industry completely decimated box office revenues. I'm not even going to talk about the triad involvement forcing movies to be made as cheaply and quickly as possible to maximum profits. How good can a film be when it's made end to end in less than 10 days.
One point you did not bring up is MMA. ;Wth the rise of MMA, we all now see Kung Fu fighting as fake once we realized all Kung Fu fighters got their asses kicked in the MMA ring. Another point you did not bring up is that Korean movies and soap operas were getting better, and now we have another source for our Asian media fix.
Data is off, thumbnail shows infernal affairs which is good 2000s movie and not from 90s. There also WKW 2046 in 2004, so in 2000s still good movies being produced that have an international audience in the 2000s. This is just copy paste data from people who pushing Hong Kong return to China being the direct issue. Mostly Action stars and stuntmen getting older, more safety concern then in the past doing crazy stunts. Jackie Chan was already in his 40s by 2002 , while lack of young new talents are coming out of all the stunt teams and large gradual decline of action movies.
HK cinema basically replaced by South Korea Cinema, they all exactly the same, but Korean done it in a more polish way nowadays and they are slowly running out of ideas AND next gen talents too, same exact thing that happened to HK Cinema. Indonesia Cinema now is slowly rising into the international scene, maybe replacing SK Cinema in the near future
Cant wait 2 see the next Iko Uwais soon I also hope 2 see Joe Taslim or even Yayan Ruhian as a lead 4 a change Same goes 2 Cecep Rahman As much as i disliked Indo horror but they definitely is global marketable level already Also Indo Marvel very solid with Bumi Langit very successful 2 entrants forgot the name but the villain is Bront Palarae and Seri Asih😄😆Thailand too also got potential 2 sell global especially in successful dramedy like the recent (million before grandma dies🤠😎
@@aromalja9861 they can, if they drop some of the things that made them bollywood. So far I've seen only one that manage to pull it off beautifully and that is Monkey Man... only one so far
@@ricg3010 Indian movies is not just Bollywood for example RRR is not Bollywood movie which popular movie in west and Monkey man is not Indian movie And watch Kill which is better than Monkey man
Sorry, but I don't see them running out of ideas and talent. They have developed an excellent training system and significantly more state support. That didn't apply to HK. After the financial crisis, they ran out of funds and mainland China has little interest in the media industry there. They are building their own. In addition, the TV sector has also lost all connection. They have completely missed the international market. While TVBs used to be available in large numbers as illegal downloads, legal streaming of K-dramas and C-dramas from the mainland dominates today. TVB's YT presence is a joke. SE-Asia is actually on the way to becoming a competitor, but they are still a long way from having the know-how and the budget.
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No mention of Stephen Chow.. He pretty much owned it in the 90s.
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Stephen Chow is terrific! Why is his work not mentioned more?
Its kind of sad now, that the 80s and 90s martial arts movies don't exist anymore. Back in the 70s, when Bruce Lee brought out of the Kung Fu Craze in the World, everybody start to take up martial arts and that's why we had martial artists in movies and they were great. Sadly, as the kids are spoiled today it's going to be hard to get that back. Even again, Hollywood is doing non-original movies (sequels, remakes, reboots), martial arts movies will be hard to revive today. Lastly, as Donnie Yen is about to do Hollywood's Kung Fu Movie Remake of the 1972 TV Series, he'll will be the last Asian martial arts actor to do martial arts movies and he won't do a lot of movies because as everyone is aging, they won't do the things they used to do back then.
At least there are still quite a number of martial artists still making TV shows and movies today. Recent TV shows such as Warrior (produced by Bruce Lee's daughter, Shannon Lee), and many stars of the TV shows also have many martial arts projects yet to be announced.
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I don’t like the guy as a person, but Jackie Chan’s Police story is GOATed
Well, you suck anyway. At least Jackie Chan's life is mor interesting than your adventures in your parents basement. Piss off!
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I love the HK movies of the late 70s, 80s and 90s. With stars like Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Chow Yuen Fatt, Stephen Chow and so on, HK movies back then dare to try different things although they have a habit of following a trend like the 1st Mr vampire movie which was a hit and everyone follow the trend in making vampire and ghost comedy movies.
Golden Harvest and Cinema City were the big 2 movie studios that compete in the box offices especially during the Chinese New Year season where there will be either a Jackie Chan movie or Stephen Chow movie which people will queue up to watch.
However after 1997, things change a lot especially China regulations that restrict HK movie makers creativity. Which is why now if you see the HK movies of today, it is either a crime drama like internal affairs or a triad movie that is about the big gangsters of the past. No more supernatural movies, no more slapstick movies. It's really sad that HK movies has fallen so much...
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HK films have evolved. HK filmmakers are now making big budget co-productions with the mainland.
Jackie Chan is a legend over there in-fact his Police Story Movie franchise is a big hit in Hong Kong.
Jet Li was also a draw in the 1990s box office boom
Agreed!
I was so happy to see Once Upon a Time in China was playing on both China Air and China Eastern on my flights to and from East Asia this month.
I am proud to be from Hong Kong, thank you for sharing this video
I know it is not in the Martial Arts genre , but when I saw Derek Tsang's movie 'Better Days' starring Zhou Dongu, it was one of the best things I'd seen in years, and the most moved I was since Wong Kar Wai in the early 90s. So I know that the Island is still packing some awesome movie-making.Sure I wish really do Chow makes a new movie every year, but I know that's never going to happen , and Bruce Lee is still the only person (IMHO) to match Humphrey Bogart for on-screen charisma, but maybe the HK movies could be in different style. I hope it will rise again, and soon.
Pretty good breakdown. Thanks for this! Good history lesson about HK film.
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Hong Kong movies nowadays don't feel like it was back in the 90s, I could say the same for TVB dramas.
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insightful video, really appreciated the advanced graphics
Stephen Chow literally carried HK cinema along with Bruce Lee and Jackie Chan
While King Hu had a strong influence for sure, it's worth nothing he quickly left HK and the Shaw studios for Taiwan. His style of filmmaking had much less of an impact on the years that followed in Hong Kong than the works of Chang Cheh and Lau Kar-Leung, who were both massive draws at the box office before and during Bruce Lee's fame as well. In fact John Woo was a former assistant to Chang Cheh and shares with him a certain approach to stylized violence as well as a focus on masculinity and friendship (the famous yangyang genre).
In fact the most successful international film from HK in the beginning of the 1970s was King Boxer from 1972, even before the explosion of Bruce Lee.
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With Bruce Lee gone and the GOATS like Sammo, Jackie, Donnie, Jet, and Stephen Chow are all aging, and as of right now mainland China and HK cinema haven't been able to create stars to replace those guys. And so once they're gone mainland China cinema and HK cinema's popularity will decrease even further.
Better pronunciation of the chinese would be a plus, and a mention of competition from the growing mainland chinese film industry, and it’s a pity that all the mentioned movie stars are men, but altogether this is an excellent overview
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You missed out an important issues: HK productions used to be run by very limited staffs, often the same person had to be producer, director and editor at the same time. This gave them complete creative freedom. Today's film industries put too much concerns on what audience want, there by telling the director how to shoot. Look at how Hollywood backfired from trying to play diversity.
After the death of Bruce Lee, I can say that really Hong Kong cinema started to disappear in the United States. And this is from a person who lives in the San Francisco Bay area. I hed heard of Jackiee Chan, and he even acted in a few American films, but the fact was we could not get his films here in the USA. I saw that one moive, can't think of the title, but it has the famous bus scene and where he goes down that chandalier. I saw that on a poor VHS tape. Only in the 90's was there a chance to see these films.
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This is a good, comprehensive video but the music is a bit too overwhelming.
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HK invented and re-invented many genres. Now, filming industry is stagnant. One reason is 80s/90s talent was generational.
Fantastic analysis. I would like you to make a video about Indian cinema.
never knew about Hong Kong cinema! great video
the biggest problem of hk cinema is that they over rely on sensationalism. All the logic and plausibility does not really matters, this makes their audiences becoming more and more irrational and sometimes insane. then when things turn south, they blame china. dude, china is just a market
I think Hallyu was also a major factor in the accelerated decline. The 1st wave in particular was geared towards cinema and soaps, i.e. direct competition. The 1st wave began after the Asian crisis and Y2K had already arrived in Europe, albeit only in a niche.
as a Hongkonger, thanks for teaching me more about HK cinema
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I still think HK movies have better VFX, actors, story and overall more quality than the mainland crap.
Because they're no longer opening to the Hong Kong market.
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Those movies need not just actors. They need good fight Choreographers. The best, Yuen Woo-ping is old. And does he have a successor ? The actor Gordon Liu had a stroke. He was in Kill Bill, and 36 Chambers of Shaolin... Jet Li, Donnie Yen, and Jacky Chan are old, and cannot do those stunts any more. And they cannot find guys to replace them. They can "Dance" their way through a scene. Not actual combat moves. Did you know Donnie had a stunt double in YipMan 2 ? He declined to face the sifu, the short guy, with the high kicks. Did you know Jet Li and Donnie Yen were classmates ? in China Wu Shu School ? We were surprised Donnie agreed to do a scene with Tyson at his age. Many current Hong Kong TV stars were not trained. Michelle Yeoh is old, and she did some easy stuff in Disney's "...10 rings..." Jack Chan has a classmate, Yuen Wah, who appeared in " ...10 rings..." and Kung Fu Hustle, is also old. The main problem is: lack of good stories, and properly trained actors. The future of martial arts movies will come from South Korea, Vietnam, and Thailand. Their men have some training. But it is difficult to find someone to replace Michelle Yeoh.
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Just take a look at the hundreds of video content from China on Netflix and other streaming services, and you'll see that the issue is the lack of execution on good storytelling. Of course, I get that theme censorship is a huge contribution to the lack of innovation, but I just feel like the industry in broader China is too closely controlled by a small group of people that needs to risk it on some independent filmmakers to spice things up.
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Nah bro warriors of the future is TRAAAASH LOL, but the main character of the movie(Louis Koo) has produced one of my favorite animated movies,Mitchell’s vs the machines on Netflix.
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Laughable to blame 1997 handover which had no relevance to the downfall. Starting in the 90s the rampant and organized bootleg vcd/DVD industry completely decimated box office revenues. I'm not even going to talk about the triad involvement forcing movies to be made as cheaply and quickly as possible to maximum profits. How good can a film be when it's made end to end in less than 10 days.
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One point you did not bring up is MMA. ;Wth the rise of MMA, we all now see Kung Fu fighting as fake once we realized all Kung Fu fighters got their asses kicked in the MMA ring.
Another point you did not bring up is that Korean movies and soap operas were getting better, and now we have another source for our Asian media fix.
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Data is off, thumbnail shows infernal affairs which is good 2000s movie and not from 90s. There also WKW 2046 in 2004, so in 2000s still good movies being produced that have an international audience in the 2000s. This is just copy paste data from people who pushing Hong Kong return to China being the direct issue. Mostly Action stars and stuntmen getting older, more safety concern then in the past doing crazy stunts. Jackie Chan was already in his 40s by 2002 , while lack of young new talents are coming out of all the stunt teams and large gradual decline of action movies.
HK cinema basically replaced by South Korea Cinema, they all exactly the same, but Korean done it in a more polish way nowadays and they are slowly running out of ideas AND next gen talents too, same exact thing that happened to HK Cinema. Indonesia Cinema now is slowly rising into the international scene, maybe replacing SK Cinema in the near future
Cant wait 2 see the next Iko Uwais soon I also hope 2 see Joe Taslim or even Yayan Ruhian as a lead 4 a change Same goes 2 Cecep Rahman As much as i disliked Indo horror but they definitely is global marketable level already Also Indo Marvel very solid with Bumi Langit very successful 2 entrants forgot the name but the villain is Bront Palarae and Seri Asih😄😆Thailand too also got potential 2 sell global especially in successful dramedy like the recent (million before grandma dies🤠😎
Indian cinema too I think
@@aromalja9861 they can, if they drop some of the things that made them bollywood. So far I've seen only one that manage to pull it off beautifully and that is Monkey Man... only one so far
@@ricg3010 Indian movies is not just Bollywood for example RRR is not Bollywood movie which popular movie in west and Monkey man is not Indian movie And watch Kill which is better than Monkey man
Sorry, but I don't see them running out of ideas and talent. They have developed an excellent training system and significantly more state support. That didn't apply to HK. After the financial crisis, they ran out of funds and mainland China has little interest in the media industry there. They are building their own. In addition, the TV sector has also lost all connection. They have completely missed the international market. While TVBs used to be available in large numbers as illegal downloads, legal streaming of K-dramas and C-dramas from the mainland dominates today. TVB's YT presence is a joke.
SE-Asia is actually on the way to becoming a competitor, but they are still a long way from having the know-how and the budget.
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