@@VirtualFechtschule I taught a Kali workshop last weekend based on Ilustrismo's 12 Defenses. The first set of footwork against an overhead forehand attack was the exact same you illustrated here. Very cool!
For me personally the messer gives my wrist a lot more freedom of motion which feels more comfortable and reliable to my hand. The katzbalger feels quicker*? but it's almost more comfortable to hold with my thumb on the flat which probably isn't right I feel like I'm missing something with the katzbalger mechanically that I'm almost certain is an operator error 😅
I actually quite like the thumb grip on this katzbalger too, which is only a problem if you're going to be cutting with it. :P It just feels comfortable. For an actually short katz I prefer to just hold it in hammer grip and sacrifice range for structure.
@@VirtualFechtschule Lol, I bet it probably would. When you went over the basic advice I was checking off everything that I said to brand new students last class, and I said everything.
@@WinnipegKnightlyArts Excellent. I noticed that It worked really well during the actual workshop as well. It was a good way to make sure people do what's needed to make the stücke work in the first place. :)
@@VirtualFechtschule it helps get them in the right mindset too. Make properly timed intentional strikes when you see an opening, don't dive in on all or nothing cuts.
@@BS-bd5uq proto-katzbalger! It's got the hilt of a Katzbalger, but they generally have slightly different blade types and not yet full S-quillons like true Katzbalger have.
@@BS-bd5uq yeah, that's the thing. Established literature doesn't quite know either and has pretty much just ignored what we now call proto-katzbalgers as if they're just anomalies. There's quite some originals and depictions though. Most of what I know is from discussions with people who have seen lots of originals and from skimming through old forum posts such as these: www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8630
this why miyomoto even mention knightly fighting in his style ironically I think he had exterior training could explain the added skill he was a very curious individual but scooping under blad don't miss wrist gut n below waist up you punch n hammer down n go for a step scopp rewind wrist crash ur now a hemi k tanna sword master to lol I'm a advid sword trainer since I was 7 35 now
just remember sword training is a endless activity to master you just don't become the best with out maintaining ur conditioning mind n spiritual sence like when the world n heaven collide that's sun tzu slang for im taking this shit to the grave i.e
hate go samurai but in first segment you cut at wrist if u scoop the sword if not punch n hammer wrist I was told in my school for like 300 years not to test wrist breaking moves be very careful not to break that top bone of wrist n don't lean forward ur head will get in retracting wrist from a advance attacking parry cut but I dint say shit
Very interesting, I'm started to study messer and one handed weapons in hema by seing your YT channel. I'm exited to test this with my friends
That's really cool to hear. Have fun! :D
I'm a beginner hema student, so I found this quite useful. I'm primarily learning longsword but I also enjoy messer.
Great work as always, Oskar!!!
Thank you! :)
Cute rainbow socks! 😍😍
Thanks!
Thank you for this tutorial!
You're welcome! :D
@@VirtualFechtschule I taught a Kali workshop last weekend based on Ilustrismo's 12 Defenses. The first set of footwork against an overhead forehand attack was the exact same you illustrated here. Very cool!
For me personally the messer gives my wrist a lot more freedom of motion which feels more comfortable and reliable to my hand. The katzbalger feels quicker*? but it's almost more comfortable to hold with my thumb on the flat which probably isn't right I feel like I'm missing something with the katzbalger mechanically that I'm almost certain is an operator error 😅
I actually quite like the thumb grip on this katzbalger too, which is only a problem if you're going to be cutting with it. :P It just feels comfortable. For an actually short katz I prefer to just hold it in hammer grip and sacrifice range for structure.
Legend says that if you put two dussacks together you get the legendary weapon 'giant's scissors'
Hehehe. I have a hunch Paurenfeyndt might even work with giant scissors. :P
@@VirtualFechtschule Lol, I bet it probably would. When you went over the basic advice I was checking off everything that I said to brand new students last class, and I said everything.
@@WinnipegKnightlyArts Excellent. I noticed that It worked really well during the actual workshop as well. It was a good way to make sure people do what's needed to make the stücke work in the first place. :)
@@VirtualFechtschule it helps get them in the right mindset too. Make properly timed intentional strikes when you see an opening, don't dive in on all or nothing cuts.
@@WinnipegKnightlyArts Agreed. Setting the right intention for a class is important and this will do it! :)
Is there a translation in print, or just the wiktenauer?
I have a facsimile edition, but it's only in the original German. I don't know any printed translation to be fair. :(
May I ask where do you get that straight sword from? Is it a custom order from Landskchnet Emporium?
Yes, well spotted!
@@VirtualFechtschule Could you tell me what it's called? I heard it's proto-something from the vid, but can't really figure it out the word haha
@@BS-bd5uq proto-katzbalger! It's got the hilt of a Katzbalger, but they generally have slightly different blade types and not yet full S-quillons like true Katzbalger have.
@@VirtualFechtschule That's very interesting! Is there any read on the history of Katzbalgers? It seems to be quite mysterious
@@BS-bd5uq yeah, that's the thing. Established literature doesn't quite know either and has pretty much just ignored what we now call proto-katzbalgers as if they're just anomalies. There's quite some originals and depictions though. Most of what I know is from discussions with people who have seen lots of originals and from skimming through old forum posts such as these: www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=8630
More meesser combos please
There might be. It's a fun format, so I might do a fun addendum to this in the future! :D
bout time some one is fighting right watch this guy
I like how your partner in the first Paurenfeyndt clip is wearing a Bauerfeind knee brace :D Incidental or on purpose? ;)
It was a total coincidence, but a very nice one indeed! XD
this why miyomoto even mention knightly fighting in his style ironically I think he had exterior training could explain the added skill he was a very curious individual but scooping under blad don't miss wrist gut n below waist up you punch n hammer down n go for a step scopp rewind wrist crash ur now a hemi k tanna sword master to lol I'm a advid sword trainer since I was 7 35 now
just remember sword training is a endless activity to master you just don't become the best with out maintaining ur conditioning mind n spiritual sence like when the world n heaven collide that's sun tzu slang for im taking this shit to the grave i.e
Kinda related bur Bruce Lee's did western boxing before he got into kung fu
hate go samurai but in first segment you cut at wrist if u scoop the sword if not punch n hammer wrist I was told in my school for like 300 years not to test wrist breaking moves be very careful not to break that top bone of wrist n don't lean forward ur head will get in retracting wrist from a advance attacking parry cut but I dint say shit