//How Setup Z_Tilt In Klipper Firmware // GoldenJaguar392
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- Hey guy! Its Jprince (GoldenJaguar392)
In Today's video I am going to show you How Setup Z_Tilt In Klipper Firmware
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8:11 I don't think you have your z_positions set correctly. This is the location of the z steppers relative to the nozzle, so they should be outside of the points you described for "points". The way you have it configured klipper thinks that your bltouch is probing directly on top of the leadscrew. This is probably why it takes you so many retries
Thanks for in the info, this as been address a while now, in the comments below what also played a factor too was my bltouch micron accuracy and too high retry tolerance.
@@GoldenJaguar3D Maybe add a pinned comment addressing all of this, I am using your videos as a tutorial to set up my printer and it would be good to know for anyone else who ends up here 😅
@@cheraxquad you’re correct let me pin yours😁👍🏿
@@GoldenJaguar3D what are your z_position settings now for it?
I appreciate the work you put into making and sharing this with us all here
thank you
You have one of the more pleasant intros. I like seeing your printers. I'd like to see a tour of your shop with an intro to your beautiful printers. Thanks for the video.
Thank you 😊
Great video, all the information needed to set this up. I ran into a problem with z moving the wrong way, will I kept watching and you mentioned this exact issue. Keep up the great work !!
Awesome, thank you!, hope you get it resolved.
Thanks for doing your Klipper videos. I'm new to Klipper and there aren't many videos that explain how to set it up. More Klipper videos please. SUBSCRIBED!
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for the video. It helped clear some things up for me in the config step. Got z tilt working and no more kicking prints off the bed midway in. First run was nearly 3mm off! Got it down to 0.08mm and bed adhesion is far better.
you're welcome happy it helped
14:19 Greatest tip ever! Having wasted hours I stumbed across this video - that was the fix. Thank you! That background tune - drove me batty. Trying to learn and that distraction rattled my cage :)
I’m happy my video helped you, I won’t be including anymore background music since it seems distracting.
@@GoldenJaguar3D the background tune in this one wasn't all that bad. I had confused it with this one. " How To Setup Klipper Scew Tilt " I had headphones on, - just over powering. Great content though very helpful. Coming from Marlin on an ender 5+
Thank you, that was very helpful
Just got klippper on my prusa mk3s clone. Which has similar kinematics to most of your printers.
Got a single rpi4 running fluiddpi with KIAUH installed running 2 separate instances of klipper and moonraker. Was able to get my ender3 and prusa running on 2 different ports. Now im just perfecting my prusa config(rambo board)
Thats awesome bro, happy my video can help you on the journey.
Thank you! Great Video i was looking for this feature! I just switched this printer over from Marlin the other day!
You’re welcome.
OH MAN, the tip you leave at minute 14:22 is just PRICELESS. I had them inverted and this was causing all sorts of issues.
Sadly, i still cant get this to produce good results. But THANK YOU.
Glad it helped!
Hey man nice setup!
Man really doing it great video keep them my bro
thank you bro!!
Keep the good job coming please brother thank u for ur time 🙏
You bet
This is a great explanation for working on Klipper. I noob when comes to this stuff and now I kinda got some new knowledge again. Thank you so much for a great video
you're welcome
How big is your bed on that printer? I probably could just copy that axis for my printer.
@@robertjamessantos9708 330x330 mm
@@GoldenJaguar3D thanks. i just a manual moves to see where i can specifically point my probe. thanks for that instructions also. i have a question. i did try to do the command for the z tilt adjust and i keep getting this error.
Retries aborting: Probed points range is increasing
would you be able to help me out on that? i am using a fluid interface and i have an ender 5 plus. thank you again
@@robertjamessantos9708 what’s your retry tolerance? I don’t set it too thing 0.005 seems to be a good balanced, make sure that you’re probe z before z1 if it’s flips the other z1 before z it cause this error as well
10:47 What about bed_screws and screws_tilt_adjust? Why didn't you talk about this part? Also, 10:55 how did you get this tools section on your dashboard? I have a sensorless homing macro setup also, so I am worried this z tilt wont work properly.
You have some beautiful i3's mon. Thanks for this video, exactly what I was looking for.
Glad I could help!
Waiting for this :-)
awesome I hope it help you.
Thank you for posting this tutorial mate, really appreciate it!😁
I did have to swap the co-ords 300/155 10/155 which started right to left (which created an error after 2 try's), to 10/155 300/155. This way it started on the left side first which seemed to solve the issue straight away. Cheers
Your welcome
Now snagged at a few other hurdles. Great little learning experience but I’ve had to reflash marlin quick to do some prints I’ll attempt again tomorrow👍🏻
@@flex-ranger2 yea I totally understand you’ll get it though I have a lot of tutorials feel free to reach out as well
@@GoldenJaguar3D really appreciate it! Cheers mate
this is a really good video and no one else has one on this topic.
Appreciate it man thanks
Thanks for the content on Klipper. Quick question, Do you need to use more than one driver to use z_tilt? I have a prusa style printer on skr1.4 turbo and both z motors are tied to one driver on the skr. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
yes! you will need and extra stepper driver in order to do z tilt.
So do you recommend hard mounting the bed of a Cartesian printer and z_tilt and bed_mesh? Like remove the springs so the bed is mounted directly to the carriage and let the software square things up?
Hmm that's one way to do it...I would suggest to just use stiffer springs or silicon springs then adjust the best to the gantry on a cartesian I think it's worth it to use z tilt on a bed slingers..my lasts build uses Kevin Sam belted z mod
Man, you are a gold mine.
Wish you had pointed us to making the macro for it too.
Thanks.
Thank you bro, good call on the Macro, I will include this in my next video in the series
@@GoldenJaguar3D That would be awesome. Just to make sure we are on the same page, I am also referring to inserting the button into Fluidd as well as creating the macro.
Thanks
@@joshua43214 we're on the same page, thank for the idea.
Great job
Thank you 🙏🏿
I have 2 Tronxy X5SA Pro and was looking for this video, As you suggested in a previous video I ditched the Chitu board and am replacing with Octopus. I just finished My Voron 2.4 and loved the QGL and hope I can get these 2 dogs running acceptably. Love your videos Thanks. Did you get rid of the syncing belt between the 2 Lead screws?
I never used the syncing belts at all I use klipper z tilt to level out my bed
This was great and easy to follow thx. only bit that stopped me was that I didnt know the stock V6 board could not do this. Do you have any boards that you would recommand?
Bigtreetech skr 2 or skr e3 turbo
Great video and thanks a ton for the tips. I have a free E1 port on my skr 1.4 turbo board. Can i connect my second Z motor to that to do this z tilt levelling? If yes then can you please help showing me how to configure that in klipper? Thanks in advance 😊
yes you can used E1 for the second Z, in this video I think I show you how to set it up and less you need to personal help
Your z_positions are the locations WRT the tool head of the lead screw nuts. My setup will nail .000000 with 2 tries from 1.25 difference. I have an x5sa
[z_tilt]
z_positions:-90,165
420,165
points: 90,165
327,165
speed: 200
horizontal_move_z: 5
retries: 5
retry_tolerance: .0025
also I noticed you have no x,y offsets set for the bltouch
Thank, I figured this out after the video. Also I use cura for x and y offset instead of klipper
Another awesome vid!!! Just a quick question, do you have to recalibrate Z height every time you use Z_Tilt? Thank you.
no you shouldn't of to
@@GoldenJaguar3D many thanks!
Hello. I learned a lot thanks to your videos on klipper THANK YOU. How do we put in the slicer "Z_TILT_ADJUST" but the slicer asks me for the parameters. I put what as a parameter, can you give me the example please?? Thank you
This what have my cura slicer as my start gcode for klipper macros
G28 ;Home
Z_TILT_ADJUST
BED_MESH_CALIBRATE
BED_MESH_OUTPUT
BED_MESH_PROFILE LOAD=default
G28
Hi man new subscriber here, your videos are good, but I am getting an issue, trying to follow your tutorial, only a motor spin until get error. But start the process, and just down left motor, but not the other.
Like mechanically you need to print on a banana if you need 0.0025 tolerance and 20 retries. 0.1 and 5 would be just fine. You might want to look into stow_on_each_sample, probe_with_touch_mode and make the speed much faster.
No just greedy and want more lol, it now does it in two tries as long I don’t muck around with the bed, I never tried options for the bltouch however I’ll play with them because I’m curious I want to learn more. Thank for you input bro it’s appropriated.
@@GoldenJaguar3D Greedy is bad :D My ender xy travels are 500mmsec and z is 15. After watching this video I went back to my config and changed the screw positions too. I had them wrong. Probably makes it work better when its doing the math from the correct position.
can the skr 1.4 turbo work with the stock probe? or do i need a bl touch?
It can work with either one but I prefer a bltouch for consistency
Hi. I can use mini ups for power loss recovery?
Honestly I'm not sure I just use a plain ups to prevent my printer from shutting off incase of an outage.
Hey bro how do you make it automatically z-tilt and then bed mesh before each print? do you have that in your starting gcode or in your confg file?
In you’re slicer after G28 put Z_TILT_CALIBRATE
then BED_MESH_CALIBRATE
@@GoldenJaguar3D much love it worked!
thanks for your video. could you please load up your config as an example. i have a little problem, my z motors are not moving. id like to see why
Sure thing
drive.google.com/file/d/10k2MQoKS0BwCptwFuRYvOqfeqpylUiw-/view?usp=sharing
Hey guy. Just found your channel. It's helpin a lot. I've come up with a sudden issue. I have 2 Ender5plus with Octopus v1.1 boards. Printer .cfg files are identical except for LCD display and serial port configs. 2209 drivers for Z and Z1 are identical. Z-tilt macro....same. All of a sudden OctoEnder2 when I do a Z-tilt it starts and just drops the Z1 axis each pass until it's out of range. OctoEnder1.... fine. And I have NOOOOO idea what could be going on.... Any Ideas????
Hey have you tried making sure that z stepper is first stepper and z1 is you're second motor if you're motor are not setup that why is will cause this issue basically check the location of you stepper motor z if on the left or right and make the config reflect this direction.
@@GoldenJaguar3D I left the house and was sitting in WalMart parking lot and pondering and then that popped into my head. Came home and swapped them and boom. Worked fine. So now I have two OctoEnder printers exactly the same in every way but ONE....LOL. thanks for the help and the response. This klipper journey is quite interesting.
Hey What can i do when one Z Motor goes in the Wrong way by z Tilt ? with every Probe its bader than before
Thank You
make sure you z motors are in correct order when setting up z tilt, for example make sure the its probe z first before z1.
great vid, per chance though can you post your config so I use it for reference in a plus 5 conversion.
here you go hope this helps
drive.google.com/file/d/1L6LgGvNxzFwV9AMCmG0vnj4l69NxF8fL/view?usp=sharing
@@GoldenJaguar3D Thank you matey, much appreciated.
Can this be done in tronxy x5sa stock board running klipper?
Yes you can, I’ve seen done on Facebook tronxy group.
I can see how that would work when you have multiple Z screws, on my Ender 3 v2 has only i Z lead screw so I don’t see how it could level it
That's correct, you can always add another lead screw to you're ender if would like to try this feature
good video !!! i need help i try to do z tilt with klipper but i have an
error ( probe increase ) it compensates on the wrong side did you know
where the problem could come from
In the video I mentioned to make sure to not mixed up the z steppers they much be in order so z then z1, z must be probe first so you need to find out if you z motor is located on the left or right side of you printer.
@@GoldenJaguar3D my printer is vcore3 3pts probe
@@mondingue ok same concept so find which one of your stepper is z, z1, z2 in that order and where its located
I put in the code how you displayed it using my coordinates and I keep getting a "z_tilt z_positions needs exactly 1 items."
I was hoping you had a solution!
Never seen this issue before, do you have everything setup like I’ve stated in the video.
Great info but for the life of me I cannot get this to work when I load the .cfg file. Constantly getting the z_tilt z position error
have you got this issue resolve? if not hit me up on discord
Hello my friend, is there a way to add this to my start GCODE in SuperSlicer? It would be really nice if I could have my printer do this before probing on each print, but I don't know how to add it! Thanks for the video, very helpful!
EDIT:
Hopefully you see this comment, I'm pretty sure you have your z_position X coordinates misconfigured. I was following your video along with the documentation and it didn't seem to jive, the docs describe z_position as being the nozzle coordinates IF the nozzle could move directly above the point. Klipper doesn't actually use the z_position coordinates to probe (that's what points is for), to me it reads as if they describe where the leadscrew/stepper connect AKA the pivot point on each side. I jumped on the Klipper Discord to check and they confirmed my suspicions, I'll post my Ender 3 config below (235x235mm bed) so you can see what they should look like. Points should be two (or more apparently) positions along that midline on each side that the probe, these do need to be legitimately on-bed coordinates that can be safely reached by the probe.
[z_tilt]
z_positions: -28,117.5
263,117.5
points: 10,152.5
225,152.5
speed: 250
horizontal_move_z: 5
retries: 20
retry_tolerance: 0.0025
Yes just had z_tilt_adjust in your slicer start gcode and it should work.
@@GoldenJaguar3D Thank you! Check my edit, I think it might help your accuracy
@@travisr.3667 yes I’ve figured that out a while ago after post this video, but what also affect my it also my retry tolerance some probes are only accurate to a certain micro so hits the struggle to reach a 0.0025 but if put at less say 0.0075 I can it that in 2 tries
@@GoldenJaguar3D I only read this comments section afterwards and saw that you already figured this out, my bad. I'm using an authentic BLTouch v3.1 and hitting my config in 2-3 tries, lucky me!
Hi...can I do Z tilt adjust on my Ender5S1?
No unless the ender 5 s1 has independent stepper driver for each z motor
@@GoldenJaguar3D oups...have only one Z motor
You probably should do a PROBE_ACCURACY test first to find out how accurate your probe is. If you set your tolerance to a value lower than your probe's accuracy, it may never level out.
Yes you’re correct, however luckily it’s doesn’t take more 3-5 tries to get that accuracy
I'v got this error: Z_tilt Probed points range is increasing
Make sure you probe z first before z1 also increase retry tolerance
@@GoldenJaguar3D OK, so instead of toolhead going to the right it should start from the left that is the z stepper and then it should go to the right side where z1 is? if I'm understanding correct
@@dumdumreviews7436 yes That’s correct
Your Z_positions are wrong. They need to be the location of your lead screws using nozzle coordinates then you will not need so many retries.
That's not the issue, the issue is my tolerance is very high, so it will take more retries to match. I've done this way too many time bud!
@@GoldenJaguar3D So you have tried to input the right locations of the screws in z_positions? and it also takes 20 tries?
@@ArneSchwarck ok do me favor report back set you retry tolerance to 0.002 and let me know how many tries it takes.
@@GoldenJaguar3D ok I will do that. Hope you will also change the positions and let me know if it makes it faster.
@@GoldenJaguar3D and what probe do you have that you can get sub 2 micron accurate measurements?
What printer is that?
It’s a tronxy x5sa-pro
can we have your printer.cfg please
it was fun buddy thanks for the subbed!
@@GoldenJaguar3D i am , i am was soo excited to try out.... i'm subbed now!!!!.............
2 hrs later start print ............
yep