Designing Your Perennial Farm - Restoration Agriculture with Mark Shepard
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- Mark Shepard, manager of New Forest Farms and author of the book Restoration Agriculture, will offer a critique of annual crop-based staple food production, while laying the ecological framework and reasons for designing a perennial staple food crops farm.
You will gain the basic skills to begin the transition from annuals to a permanent, perennial agriculture incorporating everything from nuts and berries, to livestock and fruits and vegetables.
Shepard’s talk will introduce the concept of ecosystem mimicry, Keyline water management and will help you to chart a path forward to a truly ecologically designed farm.
This was presented by Mark Shepard at PV1 in March 2014.
Learn more and listen at permaculturevoices.com/podcast. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Mark Shepard! Thank you for all you do!
Mark Shepard's approach to agriculture is what I'd like to hear more from...
I appreciate your skepticism and realism regarding human existence and progression. Thank you.
It is scary ... a reckoning is coming soon because of the stupidity and evil of millions that came before us.
Yeah man! Preach it! Got off my ass 5 years ago. My stake is in the ground, my trees are in the ground, pretty soon my shrubs will be in their final places and the anual component will start to shrink. I'm not moving, i'm not budging, i stay right here and build paradise. It's not my land but it *is* my fight. Who cares if you own the land or not. I agree with many native peoples, you can not own land and you can not do anything you want to it, simply because you 'own' it. This is the land of future generations and all the animals living on it.
I'd love to help regenerate land; ownership/access is the problem for most of us. I wouldn't want to waste my efforts if the place was seized back and trashed. Land ownership under industrialised society sucks, we need a fairer way to fix things fast.
I love this guy. Mark talks total pragmatism backed by real life experience. This is the real solution. Looking for my acreage right now. I am starting. Read Restoration Agriculture. Great book. Then ACT!
How did Diego turn into a Mark?
@@annburge291what do you mean?
How's the farm going?
Honestly Mark has the most compelling model for large-scale permaculture farming I've seen so far! can't wait to see more like him (and if anybody knows anybody doing stuff like him, i'd love to know more about them and they're operations)
I agree, but I would like to see exactly what he does or did, and how long it took. He is talking about spending thousands of dollars on trees that will die and perhaps not reproduce. I don't see how that can work. also ... maybe he has a hugely productive food forest type situation, but how do you harvest that so people can live and eat?
@justgivemethetruth
Search TH-cam for Mark Shepherd. Other videos give more details.
@@seanaames6855
I have watched probably over 10 videos by the way. So what? What he is doing is fascinating, but I don't think it is an economical way to produce food for a mass market. I also don't think his story totally adds up.
@@justgivemethetruth They had / have a nursery (they sell them now) and at some point the trees (that made it) start to create saplings.
@Knight Beast OK, but do those trees breed true? Another channel was talking about how most apple trees grown from seed turn out to be "crab apples" and that very few of them breed true?
D-I-E-G-O - THANK YOU for making these videos available! And for ~eveything~ you do.
I will second that!
You are doing God's work Diego!
Thanks for the reality check, Mark!
Volunteers in India planted more than 66 million trees in just 12 hours in a record-breaking environmental drive. About 1.5 million people were involved in the huge plantation campaign, in which saplings were placed along the Narmada river in the state of Madhya Pradesh. India committed under the Paris Agreement to increasing its forests by five million hectares before 2030 to combat climate change. Last year volunteers in Uttar Pradesh state set a world record by planting more than 50 million trees in one day.
China has reportedly reassigned over 60,000 soldiers to plant trees in a bid to combat pollution by increasing the country's forest coverage. It comes as part of China's plan to plant at least 84,000 square kilometres (32,400 square miles) of trees by the end of the year, which is roughly equivalent to the size of Ireland. The aim is to increase the country's forest coverage from 21 per cent of its total landmass to 23 per cent by 2020.
Zeljko Serdar, CCRES
Hell yeah! Thank you so much for sharing and to Mark for sharing! This is IT! Gave me the chills a few times...
Wow. This was powerful. Felt it.
Thanks. Particularly enjoyed Keypoints 30:50 Responsibility 50:20 Barren rock 47:55 Syria 54:05
Awesome
Thank you so much for sharing your much-needed message! Give your soils the seed tools to take care of you!
Would love to set my 40 acres up like this.
"If it is not based on reality its bullpucky and needs to stop"
I love this guy!! Mark, please visit my family's farm in Missouri (yep.) and convert my conventional uncle!! I want in!!
Thank you for your wonderful, accessible videos! And thank you for what you are doing for the Earth, for the big picture, and for all of us humans!
*you rock!
Inspirational. Thank you.
Amen preach it brother!
Thank you Mark!!!!!!!
Very interesting, and I agree with a lot of this. But it should be noted that you CAN build soil with annual crops as well. Do regenerative farming with no till and cover cropping. Look at what Gabe Brown is doing.
It's not either or it's both. People aren't going to stop consuming corn or wheat
I wanted a hand dug into that jelly mould for a sneak peek...such restraint. Nice you could find the correct landscape fabric. When you finally harvest it, tell us if there is a difference between the sunny side and the shady side. Can you send some off to a lab or borrow a microscope and take some photos...? Love your updates on your projects.
Keep up the good work. And keep on singing.
There most certainly is not a dead zone at the mouth of every river in the U.S. Aside from that, I Love what he's bringing .
Boss speaker.
Shepard is great.
Great speaker
Right on!❤️
Excellent
Great, thank you so much. I"m just buying some land and lookng for grants to help me do this in the UK.
"Hunter gatherer culture"*
Should have put air quotes, native americans who are considered hunter gatherer farmed berries while the europeans that came thaught they picked it randomly, but they helped it grow on purpose (cutivating and farming it) and their hunting was more a culling process they chose the older deer the weaker deer and did selective breeding in a very basic form it might not be domestication ,but it still involved one till a year it still involved selective ness and if a deer was going bad itd be used as bait in a trap if your fish went bad itd be used as firtalizer when planting the native american farming methood was amazing
Also look at the indigenous Australian 'hunter gatherers' land management techniques. The recent bushfires actually uncovered part of a vast system of aquaculture earthworks older than the pyramids in South Australia. Then there is Gobekli Tepe, megalithic site 10,000 years old built by 'hunter gatherers'.
My opinion is that peoples around the world before civilisation were practising widespread land management and basically hunting and gathering within their own biome-wide parklands.
Have you read Kat Anderson's book "Tending the Wild" or "Forgotten Fires: Native Americans and the Transient Wilderness" by Omer Stewart?
I recently learned that the "wild" landscapes that John Muir described were _not_ actually wild. They were closely managed & burned by the Sierra Miwok and Valley Yokuts tribes.
People planted and tended entire oak forests for the acorns etc. and the story is similar in other places colonized by us westerners. They simply had no clue what they were seeing and replaced it with what they knew from home, appropriate or not (as it happens, not at all).
@@lewissmart7915 terra preta in south america and we dont learn this in school.
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Does anyone know the books Mark is talking about?
This is so gold. Everything he said. Pure gold!
Maybe, but it is also marketing ... this is a big commercial. Who really knows if this works, and if it does how do you harvest it. The planet is really going to be in trouble right now ... and the biggest problem is just too damn many people.
justgivemethetruth a commercial for sustainable agriculture and “leaving Rome”, best commercial ever made
justgivemethetruth but it’s not a commercial selling something, it’s a lecture providing imperative information that could potentially revolutionize big ag., which is divine work if you ask me.
@@Gizmo1869
LOL, I wouldn't disagree it's a great commercial ... my point is -- is it anything more? The guy has worked his whole life to create a pretty small forest. OK, that is, to me, very laudable, and a great way to spend a human life positively, but does it scale to meet the needs to Earth's population? Also ... how the hell are you supposed to harvest food like this and put it in the supply chain so it gets to people?
Rome was the beginning of the burning of the world. Fabian Scheidler wrote "the End of the Megamachine" to talk about this very thing. Rome chopped down all the ancient forests to go to war, and same all over this region. The island of Cypress used to have huge cypress forests on it ... now all gone - and they are not a renewable resource - they are gone, like the forests of America as well.
This is a magnificent vision, but is it real or just a great fantasy? I've seen the same thing from Geoff Lawton's greening the desert ... it is pretty underwhelming when you look at the magnitude of what needs to be done planet-wide ... and, that requires importing organic matter from outside the system ... is there that much organic matter in the world to be able to spare to bring back these deserts?
@@Gizmo1869
I get what you are saying, and the inspiration is divine ... but see my point, I am asking if this really works or not. Obviously he is not putting his detailed information out there for free - that would be divine. You are overlooking a totally human motivation to want to gain from providing value ... but I would not call that divine. The more I look at things and the older I get I don't think there is really this thing of doing well by doing good when it comes to money and profit. Listen to the guy, he is all about talking about money - and that has to be. But ... what is his system, how does it work, and does it really work - that is my question. You cannot determine that unless you have access to the information that by nature he needs to hide to make money. Do you see my point? You don't need to agree with you, just just understand what I am saying.
I have a house on 1/4 acre in a suburb. What do I do first?
I am new to this. I want to raise several crops a year in green houses. Maybe I could raise blueberries and peaches which are popular in my area with other plants in the rows between the trees and shrubs.
For some reason a lot of people resist greenhouses. But I am new to this channel and movement. I am still in the planning stage for a farm.
How you doing
@@Frank-um5mt I am still waiting for the financing. I found a great source of information for scientific farming. Dr Harriet Mella has a course that is worthwhile. She has several videos of interest. She can grow crops faster than anyone else.
kindharvest.ag/courses/ra-cc-carbon-course/#learndash-course-content
@@Horse237 glad to hear that! Get yourself take the coming grand solar minimum into account when planning a farm. Stick with the greenhouses
Deeply appreciate Mark Shepard, and the many excellent points he makes. However, the annual crop farmers do take vacations- every year after the harvest is in. One of the supposed advantages of what is now known as conventional crop farming is that without animals, one can take a few days during the year off work, and an extended vacation during the off season.
Great presentation... just curious since we eat a whole food plant based diet.... when you take out grains and legumes, what do you replace them with? What is the solution there?
There isn't a solution outside of some tubers because otherwise, you aren't getting enough calories.
@@DiegoFooter that's where I am coming from as well, aside from tubers it doesn't seem like there is a great answer. If anyone has further comments or studies please share.
Nuts. In his book he uses the example of chestnut (high in carbohydrates) and hazelnut (high in fat and protein)
@@DiegoFooter how about Gabe Brown! th-cam.com/video/ExXwGkJ1oGI/w-d-xo.html His recent keynote speech was amazing!
There are multiple answers to this question. There are people on a carnivore diet. I myself have done it but now choose to just be animal based and eat a little more variety. When animal based, you fuel yourself off of fat. Nuts and fruits have high energy potential. Eggs are wonderful. I could go on. Let's talk about all the fuel people carry with them in the form of excess fat.
Powerfull
***I would like to know where I can get a book that teaches you the practicalities of permaculture. I know there are tonnes of books on this subject that are more philosophical than practical. Most of them don't actually tell you how to put this philosophy into practice, and don't give many detailed instructions on how to execute this idea. They are all mostly theoretical. It all sounds like a great idea, and I am all for it, but I havent heard or read a good book that teaches how to put this permaculture subject into practical use. Does anyone know of any such books? Thanks***
There isn't one because the subject is too broad. It all depends on what you are trying to do. Designing a 100 acre farm is different than a half acre market garden. Get a book on the specifics. And keep in mind that permaculture isn't a design process, it's an approach and a way to think about design, there's no A to Z methodology with permaculture.
I am buying an 80 acre woodland that also includes waterfront on a good sized lake. The woodland is made up mostly of oak trees, cottonwood trees, poplar trees, birch trees, and some maple. I want to make a forest garden of various (Mostly perennial)plants. I just want a good practical book that will give me some good direction on designing this arrangement. Thanks!
@@charronfamilyconnect where are you located what climate? I really like Ben Faulk www.wholesystemsdesign.com/
@@thecitizenfarmer7700 I live in eastern Ontario Canada in growing zone 5. Thanks!
Whether it’s the garden of eden or the savanna’s of Africa YOUR BOTH in the group HAHAH GOD do I love this guy sooo smart very analytic mind
You get it.
Shepherding the sheeple out of Rome.
Let's just go ahead and build a wall... Welcome to 2017
Let's not, let's get out heads out of the sand.
lmao
If we are using half of our land to make food, and this method is less efficient per acre, how will we feed America with this?
Bin listening 10 mins. All lv heard is what not to do
Sometimes that is the best advice.
While still not good, ( I totally am on board w regen ag & all the reasons conventional is bad) i will pick on the point where u said about 50 some % of us ag land is in anuals then went on to say that post harvest this land is bare rest of year /until next planting is up. Again, still not arguing FOR most types of annual production happening, but for those who take statistic & run wild w them- PLEASE keep in mind that if that 50 some % is including organic practice farms, well, many of them do practice cover crops/keeping soil covered & even no till. Also, many in coventional ag dont necessarily till up their corn or soybean stubble in fall, or, again, there's even some no-til that's been happening for a while now. I've seen quite a bit of these examples in conventional, in WI not only on, but incl., my folk's dairy farm. dif. topic : Wondering if apple ethanol is better for engines that corn ethanol ? My husband is a very experienced mechanic ( mainly diesel but is well rounded) & hates ethanol fuel. Also, great if machines can run on these oils sustainably ( ALL things considered, not just the engine's fuel) but long-term I am all for getting back to people doing the picking etc., as much as can be done healthfully ( for the people). Getting out in sunshine, fresh air doing useful work . Perfect job for youth & esp. homeschooled/alternate schooled kids but they're not the only ones who can work with seasonality & flexibility . Anyways, awesome, awesome talk & info, I was saying "amen" about every minute throughout !
check this out, Gabe Brown th-cam.com/video/ExXwGkJ1oGI/w-d-xo.html
I invented fire.
He says he's got 7 hours of material, to fit in 1 hour, then rambles on. His talks while in his farm are actually more useful
Sorry, his history lesson is not acurate. Many religious buildings were built by skilled workers who were taken care of. The Mongols were well known raiders and most folks have heard about Ghengis Khan. The border villages would petition the government for protection or they would move away. The wall was effective and manned in many locations.
His info is good, and he is correct that people wipe themselves out with their monocropping, tillage, and overgrazing.
Has Mark not heard of Gabe Brown pioneering no till practices i think for the modern era. Please check him out and let me know what you think. His recent keynote speech was incredible and inspiring : th-cam.com/video/ExXwGkJ1oGI/w-d-xo.html
Some of us eat like our ancestors- animal fats, fats from perenniel plants (cocount, tree nuts, olives and olive oil, avacado), animal proteins, and a lot of veg- much of it from perenniels, most of the rest integrated into the animal productions cycles. Other than the coconuts, olives, and avacados- the rest is produced locally, and using sustainable to regenerative methods. It can be done.
BTW, viewers may want to check out LCHF diets. Useful for losing weight while maintaining muscle mass, overcoming or living with insulin resistance/ pre-diabetic conditions, and also reduced inflammation, aka pain. Those on a high fat diet tend to find that they need and want MUCH less food, and many experience a range of additional benefits when they eat this way.
I know too little about agriculture to have an opinion on that topic, but when he makes obvious mistakes in other fields that I know stuff about I lose faith in is overall expertise.
For example, mongolians did raid and conquered China and so did other steppe nomads so the chinese had damn good reasons to build that wall.
Also, mammalian males are not more ornate than the females.
Hyenas are active hunters and are led by females.
Hold your breath while you look for someone who has it all correct and is perfect one everything theu say...
I wonder how long you will last or what you will accomplish while you wait.
Also, if you believe the history you were taught, then there may be no hope for you anyway...
@@josephjones5070 Why is marxist history wedded to permaculture?
@@harrisonkane1288
Because freaks try to invade everything.
The fact that you made such an ignorant assertation shows that you havent studied the founders or the the people who are actually managing sucessful permaculture projects.
The identity politics and other BS that is trying to snake its way into permaculture is despised by those who are actually DOING the work. The slime balls who are bringing this poison are, as usual, producing nothing of value. They are claiming that their ideologies are intertwined, but all they do is talk and divide. Same as evwrytjing else they glom on to.
It looks like you are a victim of their manipulative rhetoric, and not a pearl.
I'm 25 minutes in and he has just made broad claims with loose connections and wrong information about why we should do his style of farming. I was hoping for a how not a clearly half baked world view.
Could not agree more. And common sense says global warming has nothing to do with it
Definitely disagree about the claim that annuals cannot be done in a self-replicating and sustainable manner. Take a look at The Gardening Channel with James Prigoni. You cover the soil with mulch like in nature and expose pockets around seeded plants so that they self seed and every year the patch will grow out and the proximity of the plants growing together will cover the bits of exposed soil in between. How do perennials re-seed in nature if not like that? I fail to see how this does not also apply to annuals.
Agreed. He seems to have a particular point of view, which works for him, but denigrates others trying a different strategy.
EGADS ... Everything we know is WRONG.
This is an incredibly radical speech - exactly what the world needs ... and what are the chances. We human beings are suicidal, homicidal fools.
This is an angry man.
Talk starts around 25:00
Oh no, i have so little time ... yabbers on unrelated for half the talk.
He is historically and culturally uninformed.
He´s there to talk about farming, why does he not get to the point?
Everyone there already knew that we need perannial farms ... get to the nuts and bolts, Mr. Real-world.
Less preaching, more teaching.
Pearls before swine.
Guess what that makes you?
@@josephjones5070 a pearl?
@@harrisonkane1288
So you are siding with the people who are crying about not having their hands held and lead step by step...
Cool story, bro.
I guess you and "they" (lol!) are too lazy to find those kinds of resources. Also too fearful or ignorant to understand that this kind of work requires one to get up and DO IT as a necessary part of learning it.
This and your comment about Marxist history sure does go hand in hand, eh?
Let's see a video of something that YOU have built...
This guy has some good things to say but his bad attitude and tone kills the message - very hard to listen to.
I'm 15 minutes in and wondering if I'm watching a conspiracy theory. Get talking about soil erosion already and perennial wheat. There is no perfect way to live, just ways of adapting.
? Sounds to me like he was giving what most people call historical context, among other things(like talking scientific observations).. which imo makes his points later on in his presentation have more of a meaning and impact. btw he talks about topsoil erosion like exactly 15 minutes in if that's what you're looking for. cheers
@@spokenforall Sadly he's missinformed about the historical parts, which makes it hard to trust his words in this video.
I am sorry though ... the political ideas in the speech are great ... we can all see the reason things need to change, but he is talking about buying thousands of dollars of seedling trees and planting them and losing most of them, and then depending on evolutionary changes to develop a species for whatever location. But that takes generations, and a tree generation is even longer than a human generation. The Native Americans did it better, because they worked with what was naturally here. The slave-tech-war schema of western civilization is the most powerful domination system ever devised, but it is a cancer that will burn itself out. We have most of our government advocating a sheer total utter neglect of our people. What he made is amazing, but I am not sure he is telling the story that needs to be told ... he is telling the story he needs to tell to make money. Hey, better him than others, but at some point we have to start dealing with the provable scientific truth.
50:00 good speech overal many interesting ideas and concepts - but also making up strawmen and being controversial / witty / edgy, just for the effect. No one really thinks a pizza oven constitutes the essence of perma culture, if some people have fun making them, the "real" farmers should get over themselves. (If they even object, which I doubt). Same with a herb spiral. It is often used as an ornamental element, a heavy user of herbs will need more space. But it can be a good idea for mediterranian herbs if the garden is in a wet area with soil with poor drain. or they provide herbs earlier. Or a project for the children.
In order to make it complete a few herbs would also be planted that are also growing (in larger volumes) in the beds and like it wetter / cooler. That makes for diversity, helps against pests and looks good.
There are farmers that do cover crops and if a person bothers to be vegan they usually also buy organic. And grains and vegetables (or potatoes) that are produced under organic standards usually are grown with green manure, cover crops and what not.
Sheer necessity will drive those farmers, they are not allowed to use the conventional fertilizers and herbicides so having cover crops is their way to cope.
That is not a really diverse eco system (it gets better if they use a cover crop mix of 12 plants, and those produce all other mixes or the most effective single plant *) but much better than a monoculture followed by exposed soil for many months. And as the organic farmers also avoid pesticides they will also add the hedges and other offers to attract the predators for pests.
* Cotswold Seeds did tests - some of the seeds are more expensive than others. In a mix they become affordable and their performance is boosted by the cheaper seeds (like different clover varieties).
And if people grew up with grains and like to eat them - that is not an addiction, Chestnuts are O.K. but they need to be cooked as well (another weird remark) and frankly on the long run I would rather have potatoes, or corn, or sweet potatoes. (potatoes are better regarding vitamines, and I am sceptical that chestnuts have the full protein profile - any way it is only 4 % or so). Soy is better.
They are O.K. for a while but as staple I prefer something else. Good fats, some minerals, could not find information whether they have the complete amino acids needed for humans (not that important), also somewhat higher in oxalates. Allergies are not unheard of.
People have a strong emotional attachment to childhood food - I do not get why he found it to be a good idea to add that (and many other remarks like that) to the lecture.
Does he think that adds to the substance ?
55:00 extra points for that ending.