@@by_the_baron4933 I just wish the value of boosters was a little bit better relative to the price. If the cost of the boosters was 130 bucks, and the non-bulk expected value was 110-120, I wouldn't mind buying boosters at a loss for the fun of the pack opening. All of my booster box openings of late have been miserable though, non-bulk value close to 40-50 dollars. The damn collector boosters feel a bit better, but they are so expensive, and a miss feels so much worse on them.
I really like the theming of duskmourn, and would like to open more. The double exposure is great too. But you need to get so lucky just to break even. With power creep being what it is, you can’t even hold them and let value come back in the long term.
Idk how to claim coins but im claiming coins lol! Also I just got into magic and you have really been the only TH-camr I’ve been following (next to tolarian ofc). Great videos, great info, super helpful so thanks so much!
I'm glad I get to live vicariously through you, duskmours is my favorite set by far so far, it's so freaking cool. The art is awesome, the themes are so freaking cool, I'm obsessed!! I've gotten each of the collector sets, the tv nightmare box and the house of horror bundle, and I'm honestly so pleased with the value I've gotten out of them. My partner and I used the horror bundle to play draft together! :)
I got the nightmare bundle pulled about £40-50 worth of cards , cost £70 for the bundle when it comes down to it I'm pretty happy with that considering when I spend 10-15 on booster and get maybe £2 - 5 worth of cards
@@novasnotvibing value is highly relative because it depends on a complex mix of game context, individual playstyles, and even broader marketplace influences. Magic Cards derive value from how they perform in specific game situations. Cards derive value from how they perform in specific game situations. A card that might be weak in one deck or format can shine in another. On top of that there is your personal value. I will never pay 80$ for e. g. "Edgar Markov". Irespect the rarity and the need for Vampirer enjoyers like me, but thats not the Cards value. Value is relative because it depends on perspective, context, and individual needs or preferences. If value in TCG games is not relative, tell me what is it? :D
Value also depends on what you ate doing with the cards. The two dollar cutoff makes sense for selling, but if you are adding to your collection to play with, then the lower value cards still add to the value.
If a anything, this video how's why we buy sealed as well. That first box was 🔥 The trick is to get a baseline on the bulk you might need then do singles for what you need, people too easily forget how quickly card market fees and shipping costs add up!
Artist Tim Jacobus is the original illustrator for the iconic Goosebumps series books by R. L. Stine . He was recently at NYCC2024, he was very friendly. I wished I pulled the art card to get an autograph on it.
Another Option would be 3 Nightmare Bundles - will give you best of both worlds (half a collectors box and half a booster display) and 60 full art foil lands - the nightmare special booster cards dropped quite a bit in price though.
I've bought 2 bundles, a nightmare bundle, a collector booster box, and a prerelease. There are several cards i want that i haven't pulled yet. Think ill buy singles from now on.
I wonder if (or, rather I hope that) they might improve the value since so many folks have spoken about how disappointing the packs are after the switch to play boosters...
I just can't see opening Magic packs ever again. It's always been a gamble, but not like it is nowadays! I just ordered a box of Star Wars Unlimited cards instead, for their new Clone Wars era stuff coming out in two weeks. I'm excited that I'll get to open some packs again (it really is addictive), even if it's for a different game. I'm willing to bet that the value will be a lot more predictable than Magic packs. And I adored the Clone Wars animated series! 😊
Depends. If you're more of a player than a collector, the collector box is never worth it. You're better of buying singles. Even the play booster box isn't really worth it for players unless they get a kick out of opening boosters.
This is (questionably) true only if you treat cardboards as investment instead of game pieces. Collector boosters are never worth it if you are a Magic *player*.
Honestly, I think the best buy are the commander decks. Three out of four are pretty strong and well built out of the box with minimal upgrades needed. Second would be the Nightmare Bundles ONLY because of the promos. Without those, the value is every bit as sketchy as getting a play booster box.
Agreed. They also need to stall out putting out more sets bi-monthly. Maybe have almost like an “extended release” where a set comes out.. and a month later they release a few more cards for the set. They need to slow powercreep as well.
The horror theme matches perfectly with the scare i see when i check my credit card balances
and this is why we buy singles folks
Feels bad buying an expensive single though.
@@epsleon 100% yeah it does but so does opening dud boxes. I guess thats what we get for enjoying lootboxes the hobby.
@@by_the_baron4933 I just wish the value of boosters was a little bit better relative to the price.
If the cost of the boosters was 130 bucks, and the non-bulk expected value was 110-120, I wouldn't mind buying boosters at a loss for the fun of the pack opening. All of my booster box openings of late have been miserable though, non-bulk value close to 40-50 dollars.
The damn collector boosters feel a bit better, but they are so expensive, and a miss feels so much worse on them.
I do not
Singles are the way to go
I really like the theming of duskmourn, and would like to open more. The double exposure is great too. But you need to get so lucky just to break even. With power creep being what it is, you can’t even hold them and let value come back in the long term.
Crazy how expensive boosters can be compared to their value
Yeah I just opened an OTJ box and got basically the best hits (foils sucked).. the total value was still super low.
Idk how to claim coins but im claiming coins lol! Also I just got into magic and you have really been the only TH-camr I’ve been following (next to tolarian ofc). Great videos, great info, super helpful so thanks so much!
I'm glad I get to live vicariously through you, duskmours is my favorite set by far so far, it's so freaking cool. The art is awesome, the themes are so freaking cool, I'm obsessed!! I've gotten each of the collector sets, the tv nightmare box and the house of horror bundle, and I'm honestly so pleased with the value I've gotten out of them. My partner and I used the horror bundle to play draft together! :)
I got the nightmare bundle pulled about £40-50 worth of cards , cost £70 for the bundle when it comes down to it I'm pretty happy with that considering when I spend 10-15 on booster and get maybe £2 - 5 worth of cards
I like art cards, I can just use them as proxies for the actual ones with the help of a little printing and collage
value is a personal thing too. i think we all agree that sometimes the artwork ist important, so I always would take the collectors...
value is not relative 😂
artwork is better nonfoil tho so you can actually see it
@@novasnotvibing value is highly relative because it depends on a complex mix of game context, individual playstyles, and even broader marketplace influences. Magic Cards derive value from how they perform in specific game situations. Cards derive value from how they perform in specific game situations. A card that might be weak in one deck or format can shine in another. On top of that there is your personal value. I will never pay 80$ for e. g. "Edgar Markov". Irespect the rarity and the need for Vampirer enjoyers like me, but thats not the Cards value.
Value is relative because it depends on perspective, context, and individual needs or preferences.
If value in TCG games is not relative, tell me what is it? :D
Yes, Masahiro Ito-san was the art director for Silent HIll 2 and 3.
Always singles. Also! The Damnation signed art card is worth like $5 on tcgplayer currently. Very cool pull!
Duskmourn horror theme is just the perfect representation of how it feels when you spend money opening Boosters
I love signed art cards. they are gorgeous.
Value also depends on what you ate doing with the cards. The two dollar cutoff makes sense for selling, but if you are adding to your collection to play with, then the lower value cards still add to the value.
If a anything, this video how's why we buy sealed as well. That first box was 🔥
The trick is to get a baseline on the bulk you might need then do singles for what you need, people too easily forget how quickly card market fees and shipping costs add up!
A true horror set. Haunted by Peer Past the Veil. One night you wake up to 30 peer past the veils floating ominous through the room.
The art is wild in this set!
Why must cracking boosters be so expensive :( thanks you do it for us
Artist Tim Jacobus is the original illustrator for the iconic Goosebumps series books by R. L. Stine . He was recently at NYCC2024, he was very friendly. I wished I pulled the art card to get an autograph on it.
Another Option would be 3 Nightmare Bundles - will give you best of both worlds (half a collectors box and half a booster display) and 60 full art foil lands - the nightmare special booster cards dropped quite a bit in price though.
The high value cards are only available in collector boosters which has always deterred me from MTG.
I bought some as well! Let's hope some luck. First order from games-island as well
All in all an amazing set imo. Great Limited experience, good cards and beautiful artworks.
I love opening packs but anything I really want I buy as a single. I got the nightmare bundle at a good price so I’m excited for that
Thank you for doing this comparison. I was debating on which one would be the better value to get.
Going back and buying set boosters it's wild how much more value seems to be in them compared to play boosters. OTJ aside I think...
I've bought 2 bundles, a nightmare bundle, a collector booster box, and a prerelease. There are several cards i want that i haven't pulled yet. Think ill buy singles from now on.
Always singles, but it's amazing to open booster packs
Thanks for comparing all of the products for us!
Collector boosters are the only way now if u want 2 get that spicy pulls, good video!
Cool video and the coin concept is really fun aswell.
Masahiro Ito was art director for Silent Hill yes :)
I agree lol buy singles. Booster boxes are for drafting!
Thanks for the video!
I had fun opening the nightmare bundle I was very lucky, single card was one of the chase premium so made it worth it ❤
Awesome video comparing the these two boxes!
thanks for asking the questions i never would come up with
The foil on that withering torment is pretty cool
getting a nightmare bundle tomorrow, hoping that has some good hits
Love the Valgavoth Double exposure
i wish play boosters had a shot at nicer printings even if its a very minuscule chance
Value disparity was crazy, but the artwork are pretty cool!
Nice Video! Im kinda tempted for a collector booster
This is why I think is general play boosters are a better value proposition, less gambling with your money! I just wish we still had set boosters
What about the high value cards only available in collector boosters?
@@TrueEuropaInsights with a minuscule pull chance? As I say, you're gambling less with your money.
The set-booster to play-booster change feels like a steal
Always happy for these compare videos
Crazy how many products you can open every month! I hope that you sell them all 😊
I always appreciate these comparisons
Its always a gamble buying boxes/packs. But also fun to open.
some designs are soooo pretty
I´m starting to be done with duskmourn. not really a lot of cards that work in my decks. looking forward to foundations though!
I wonder if (or, rather I hope that) they might improve the value since so many folks have spoken about how disappointing the packs are after the switch to play boosters...
First box was good. The rest were a bit messy, awesome video
I think I'd pick the two play booster boxes since I like opening packs.
That art card is so cool!
there's a couple of uncommons that are worth a couple of bucks in duskmourn which is nice
that masahiro damnation art card!! so cool
Very nice comparison. Ty. I know what to do now
Love cracking boosters!
Get the play booster boxes and do draft at home. Or sealed. 😉 So even if they are not worth the money you won't loose
That first play booster box was awesome!
I love the art in this set
thanks for video! really appreciate all your work.
I just can't see opening Magic packs ever again. It's always been a gamble, but not like it is nowadays! I just ordered a box of Star Wars Unlimited cards instead, for their new Clone Wars era stuff coming out in two weeks. I'm excited that I'll get to open some packs again (it really is addictive), even if it's for a different game. I'm willing to bet that the value will be a lot more predictable than Magic packs. And I adored the Clone Wars animated series! 😊
Always a blast watchin openings
Crazy how the value plummeted of a booster box in the last few years
dayum that first play booster was way better than the second
Play booster is good if you are starting out, after your first one or two, you may as well switch to the collector booster
Thing is, if you just want to open something, collector boosters are so so expensive
Depends. If you're more of a player than a collector, the collector box is never worth it. You're better of buying singles. Even the play booster box isn't really worth it for players unless they get a kick out of opening boosters.
This is (questionably) true only if you treat cardboards as investment instead of game pieces. Collector boosters are never worth it if you are a Magic *player*.
Honestly, I think the best buy are the commander decks. Three out of four are pretty strong and well built out of the box with minimal upgrades needed. Second would be the Nightmare Bundles ONLY because of the promos. Without those, the value is every bit as sketchy as getting a play booster box.
Hauntwoods overlord art is so good in this set
love the full art lands
Exactly 💯. But it's so fun ripping a box.
the disparity between the play boxes was crazy, and that the first box was more than the collector box.
Nice upgrade to the video quality!
I think the way Boosters are now is sell as soon as possible when a set comes out, or be lucky with collectors.
Singles all the way, tho the satisfaction of cracking packs remains undeniable
Masahiro Ito drew art for MTG, that was truly surprise for me
If you hit special guest a play booster box are okay. But I miss the set booster
I think that Damnation art card is pretty valuable, because of the signing
That first box was kind of spicy... coins!
Still loving Dusk, lost my job so did not get a collector booster box myself this time
that JP card has a reaaaaally dope art!
it's a shame that the collector box did not pass even 150 bucks in value.
I think Wizards need to drop the price a bit if they want this game to grow
Either that or ensure the cards contained are at least roughly worth the price of a box
@@mawe8601this would probably completely Crash the Market for cards since good cards wouldn't be as rare anymore
Agreed. They also need to stall out putting out more sets bi-monthly.
Maybe have almost like an “extended release” where a set comes out.. and a month later they release a few more cards for the set.
They need to slow powercreep as well.
price problem are not from Wizards guys but reseller
@@plopploplop3301 Yeah agree, the prices can go so high...
Really cool comparison!
how do you get the coins, I came across your video later but it was cool to watch you open stuff.
Did anyone calculate the drop rate of the art cards? I feel that's the only cool thing about opening a play booster now.
The Everything Token in foil is worth something too!!
i love the thematic of duskmourn
thanks for the cracking pleasure!
It seems like there are so many good hits in duskmourn
Despite poor value, I really like Duskmourn aesthetic
The art is nice but the value is just insane
I am fine with my Nightmare bundle and I'll just be drafting for the rest of it.
Collector booster have an additional layer of fun and exitement. Beside that, buy singles.
the 2 play boosters is more worth IMO, but still collector art is something else
Crazy value difference on the boosters. Singles are just the better way to go, as much as I love ripping packs
Bros pumping the vids gotta love it
This shows if you wanna gamble buy boosters boxes because I see sometimes you get the value but most of the time unfortunately not
Some decent pulls
Just found out art cards exist, nice !
It depends on what you want to do
I bought a mb2 and got wreckkkkkked. Glad to see some see it’s not a complete collapse like bloomburrow :/