Finally found time to watch some casts again. I see that the question regarding the soomepoisid have been answered already🙂 but adding to that I think your pronunciation of Finnish units (or in this case Estonian too) is pretty decent. Great game, action all over the map! I wish 122nd was a bit better. It has strengths which don't compliment each other super well, with cqc inf and long range AT. Fun division regardless.
16:00 Artying the MG makes sense as: 1) He has radio 2) 5HP for a 35 point unit, which over performs and has low availability compared to other targets (except Flakverling and Pak43) 3) That building provides useful cover and spotting for a large section of that front
I didn't mean to say that targeting the machine gun is generally not worth it so i'm sorry if it came across like that. Also you have valid points. If there is no high priority target to go after that's a good call since you want to use your arty as much as possible. That being said, i don't know if borry had vision on the krupp at that time, but just found the decision odd considering that there is a krupp and a flakvierling that he clearly knew off. And taking out the machinegun wouldn't change anything for borry but taking out one of these two would open up new possibilities which would ultimately allow borry to push forward. And once borrys armour was allowed to do so then the machinegun also wouldn't be a problem for his push. This is why for me personally going at the MG first is weird choice.
Regarding the soomepoisid pronounciation I believe both O’s are pronounced as you would pronounce the O in ”or”. It is actually not Finnish but Estonian. I may be wrong, not being Estonian myself. The soomepoisid were Estonian volunteers fighting in Finland
From what I've heard the loop wasn't added for historical reasons but for balancing. And that's ultimately more important than historical accuracy. But that was before I started playing so someone might be able to add more context here.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk I'm ok with balancing for dive bombers, but d5 physically can't do the loop, it's not a dive bomber, it's too heavy with all the armor and guns. It should be more expensive regular attack plane like il-2 with good resilience
@@tedarcher9120Didin‘t know that. Not sure if it would make it better though as I’m not sure it would be very good as an Il-2 like attack plane or if this role is needed for the axis. But fortunatly that‘s not a call for me to make.
@ Some would definitly profit from it that‘s a good point. However the problem is if you take away the loop and add resiliance you have to make it significantly more expensive because of the generally big bomb loadouts. At the same time it can‘t really do much more than it does now because the gun loadout kinda sucks. That‘s why I say I‘m not sure home much it would help. But they are already getting medium resiliance in the next patch and from what i‘ve heard (not sure about that though) the price wont chance so that will help this divs out for sure. We wilö have to wait and see how that goes. It will help some divs but not sure if it does enough. At the same time I can see problems too but it‘s hard to say how it turns out without having seen the medium resiliance stukas in action yet.
Yeah it's pretty ballsy. But for some reason Koenig often has lower numbers than I would consider to be required and manages to pull it off. I still don't know how. But then again I am on a significantly lower level than him so who am I to judge.
@@tedarcher9120Not just that alltough it play a part in this for sure. What I generally noticed is that top players can generally manage with less infantry by relying more on supporting units, tanks etc. EDIT: Forgott the second part. It can certainly be problemstic. I think a player like koenig knows when and how to airspam to avoid that being a problem. It‘s not that it can‘t be stopped but that it requires a serious investement to shut it down in one area after which you can just shift your airspam to another area. And if your opponent wants to stop it completely he will invest similar or higher amounts than you invested into your airforce. That‘s not to say that it can‘t backfire, it absolutely can. But that risk is relatively small if it is done properly.
Good game. Here we see why i hate 50kg bombers, even the ones with multiple just struggle. withouth AA even shooting at them they wont deal with a single infsquad. and once aa shoots at them then they might as well be dropping duds.
It's a point I regularly note that the SD casting community seems to have settled on the abbreviation "sdkfz" for the various German vehicles. This is as useful as abbreviating every US vehicle to just "M", it's a complete non-name. It would be far more descriptive to abbreviate the vehicles to their numbers, such as "251" or "7/1". This makes it clear you are referring to the halftrack and the flakvierling truck. Whereas "sdkfz" only makes sense when directly referring to vehicles and not as a specific names. This isn't meant to be a criticism or even feedback, just sharing a point that comes to my mind!
it's usually streamers just saying that while pointing at the area, so you know which "sdkfz" they refer. same as saying "panzer". not helpful if there's dozens of "sdkfzs" or "panzers" in the image, but when there's one visible you roughly know what is meant
@czwarty7878 sure, you can normally make sense of it from context. Like when he's talking about planes being stopped and says "thankfully that's an sdkfz there" you can infer the sdkfz is some kind of AA. But it'd be more informative if he just said "AA" or "7/1" or whatever, and both those are shorter than sdkfz too! My point is Sdkfz is used as a name, when in reality it's basically just saying "vehicle"
You are correct of course, same for the spw btw. It honestly is more habit than anything as well as the fact that if you start reading the name it of course always comes first so it is the natural way to abbreviate it even though you are 100% correct that it is not accurate at all. Except for the 7/1 I usually also often don't know the number by heart by looking at the unit perform and I often don't bother to read it as the game is going on but rather remember what kind of sdkfz it is. Not trying to make it look better or anything like that just pointing out why I do it this way without really thinking about it and I think most other casters do too. Weirdly enough both "AA" and "skdfz" or "halftrack" and "sdkfz" are used at times by both me and atk pwr xD Don't ask me why. But ultimately it isn't that big of a deal because of what czwarty said. So while I can try to be more accurate in the future I won't focus very hard on this since the point usually gets across.
@@colonelkoenig42birhakeim42 I haven't noticed either haha. Odd choice to bring it with the IG33, can you explain your thought process there? Because it is not something that you would usually see. And not something that I would consider either. So I'm curious.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk when you are in game it is really difficult to buy an arty piece with his truck ammo due to the price. Specially when the cost is above 130 pts. So either I take ammo’s truck in support tab but it costs me a slot for other interesting tools. Or I take the ig33 with ammo’s truck and it costs me only 90 pts which is really easy to pull out. And with 122nd I m sure to need ammo for my Arty really soon in the game.
@ 100% agree on the price issue and also the necessity of having ammo. But my concern would be that if you really need the ammo you then have to buy an IG33 for 50 points on top of that. So it‘s still harder to find those 90 points than 40 points and it is potentially less efficient if you don‘t actually need the ig33 right then. So that‘s why I find this very surprising. This was no issue at all for you wheny ou were playing? Usually I would also be worried about the opposite situation when you feel like you need the IG33 now and first have to make sure you have the 90 points for it ready to go. But I guess in this matchup this is less of a concern.
@ in the second case im not an user of ig33 i find it too fragile. So when I pull out it is a bonus I never really need it. 90 pts for an ammo truck no it isn’t expensive when you consider that you have an ig33 that will be useful whatever the situation on a map like slutsk and also in considering that you can take your arty without ammo truck at 120 pts. I had the chance to pull out two 150 mm while with an ammo truck coming with im pretty sure i wouldn’t have spent two full ticks on arty. The room let in the deck allows me to take ig18 that i cannot take if i don’t take the ig33 with ammo That thing gives more pros than cons. But it is in my point of view. This choice i think is personal even if i find it more smart that bringing a big arty piece with ammo truck for 150 pts. It is not a thing that i recommend but maybe more a thing that i advise to do.
Finally found time to watch some casts again. I see that the question regarding the soomepoisid have been answered already🙂 but adding to that I think your pronunciation of Finnish units (or in this case Estonian too) is pretty decent.
Great game, action all over the map! I wish 122nd was a bit better. It has strengths which don't compliment each other super well, with cqc inf and long range AT. Fun division regardless.
16:00 Artying the MG makes sense as:
1) He has radio
2) 5HP for a 35 point unit, which over performs and has low availability compared to other targets (except Flakverling and Pak43)
3) That building provides useful cover and spotting for a large section of that front
I didn't mean to say that targeting the machine gun is generally not worth it so i'm sorry if it came across like that. Also you have valid points. If there is no high priority target to go after that's a good call since you want to use your arty as much as possible.
That being said, i don't know if borry had vision on the krupp at that time, but just found the decision odd considering that there is a krupp and a flakvierling that he clearly knew off.
And taking out the machinegun wouldn't change anything for borry but taking out one of these two would open up new possibilities which would ultimately allow borry to push forward. And once borrys armour was allowed to do so then the machinegun also wouldn't be a problem for his push.
This is why for me personally going at the MG first is weird choice.
Great game and cast.
The ig33 killed the bef tiger with HE shells, i desactived the HEAT shells to let it shoot on Bef Tiger
That makes sense, nice play!
@@CommanderOwlFtunk thanks 😊
Regarding the soomepoisid pronounciation I believe both O’s are pronounced as you would pronounce the O in ”or”. It is actually not Finnish but Estonian. I may be wrong, not being Estonian myself. The soomepoisid were Estonian volunteers fighting in Finland
Thanks for the background, didn't know they were Estonian.
Btw, ju-87D5 are incorrect here, they should not do the loop-di-loop because they didn't have any dive brakes. It should drop bombs just like an il-2
From what I've heard the loop wasn't added for historical reasons but for balancing. And that's ultimately more important than historical accuracy. But that was before I started playing so someone might be able to add more context here.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk I'm ok with balancing for dive bombers, but d5 physically can't do the loop, it's not a dive bomber, it's too heavy with all the armor and guns. It should be more expensive regular attack plane like il-2 with good resilience
@@tedarcher9120Didin‘t know that. Not sure if it would make it better though as I’m not sure it would be very good as an Il-2 like attack plane or if this role is needed for the axis. But fortunatly that‘s not a call for me to make.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk it would make a lot of weak axis divisions stronger
@ Some would definitly profit from it that‘s a good point.
However the problem is if you take away the loop and add resiliance you have to make it significantly more expensive because of the generally big bomb loadouts. At the same time it can‘t really do much more than it does now because the gun loadout kinda sucks. That‘s why I say I‘m not sure home much it would help.
But they are already getting medium resiliance in the next patch and from what i‘ve heard (not sure about that though) the price wont chance so that will help this divs out for sure. We wilö have to wait and see how that goes. It will help some divs but not sure if it does enough. At the same time I can see problems too but it‘s hard to say how it turns out without having seen the medium resiliance stukas in action yet.
12 inf in C balanced, god damn
Yeah it's pretty ballsy. But for some reason Koenig often has lower numbers than I would consider to be required and manages to pull it off. I still don't know how. But then again I am on a significantly lower level than him so who am I to judge.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk probably air spam. But what if your air spam gets shut down tho
@@tedarcher9120Not just that alltough it play a part in this for sure. What I generally noticed is that top players can generally manage with less infantry by relying more on supporting units, tanks etc.
EDIT: Forgott the second part. It can certainly be problemstic. I think a player like koenig knows when and how to airspam to avoid that being a problem. It‘s not that it can‘t be stopped but that it requires a serious investement to shut it down in one area after which you can just shift your airspam
to another area. And if your opponent wants to stop it completely he will invest similar or higher amounts than you invested into your airforce.
That‘s not to say that it can‘t backfire, it absolutely can. But that risk is relatively small if it is done properly.
hell yeah
Good game.
Here we see why i hate 50kg bombers, even the ones with multiple just struggle. withouth AA even shooting at them they wont deal with a single infsquad. and once aa shoots at them then they might as well be dropping duds.
@@CosmicLegion Yeah I think they really aren‘t that good. I have no idea why some players like them.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk I take them here because I need a fighter
Simple
It's a point I regularly note that the SD casting community seems to have settled on the abbreviation "sdkfz" for the various German vehicles. This is as useful as abbreviating every US vehicle to just "M", it's a complete non-name.
It would be far more descriptive to abbreviate the vehicles to their numbers, such as "251" or "7/1". This makes it clear you are referring to the halftrack and the flakvierling truck.
Whereas "sdkfz" only makes sense when directly referring to vehicles and not as a specific names.
This isn't meant to be a criticism or even feedback, just sharing a point that comes to my mind!
it's usually streamers just saying that while pointing at the area, so you know which "sdkfz" they refer. same as saying "panzer". not helpful if there's dozens of "sdkfzs" or "panzers" in the image, but when there's one visible you roughly know what is meant
@czwarty7878 sure, you can normally make sense of it from context.
Like when he's talking about planes being stopped and says "thankfully that's an sdkfz there" you can infer the sdkfz is some kind of AA.
But it'd be more informative if he just said "AA" or "7/1" or whatever, and both those are shorter than sdkfz too!
My point is Sdkfz is used as a name, when in reality it's basically just saying "vehicle"
You are correct of course, same for the spw btw. It honestly is more habit than anything as well as the fact that if you start reading the name it of course always comes first so it is the natural way to abbreviate it even though you are 100% correct that it is not accurate at all.
Except for the 7/1 I usually also often don't know the number by heart by looking at the unit perform and I often don't bother to read it as the game is going on but rather remember what kind of sdkfz it is. Not trying to make it look better or anything like that just pointing out why I do it this way without really thinking about it and I think most other casters do too.
Weirdly enough both "AA" and "skdfz" or "halftrack" and "sdkfz" are used at times by both me and atk pwr xD Don't ask me why.
But ultimately it isn't that big of a deal because of what czwarty said. So while I can try to be more accurate in the future I won't focus very hard on this since the point usually gets across.
What are these decks...No ammo for 10 howitzers? 1 leader tank in A? Wheez
There was ammo it is just that you didn’t spot it
Look again
@@colonelkoenig42birhakeim42 I haven't noticed either haha. Odd choice to bring it with the IG33, can you explain your thought process there? Because it is not something that you would usually see. And not something that I would consider either. So I'm curious.
@@CommanderOwlFtunk when you are in game it is really difficult to buy an arty piece with his truck ammo due to the price.
Specially when the cost is above 130 pts.
So either I take ammo’s truck in support tab but it costs me a slot for other interesting tools.
Or I take the ig33 with ammo’s truck and it costs me only 90 pts which is really easy to pull out. And with 122nd I m sure to need ammo for my Arty really soon in the game.
@ 100% agree on the price issue and also the necessity of having ammo. But my concern would be that if you really need the ammo you then have to buy an IG33 for 50 points on top of that. So it‘s still harder to find those 90 points than 40 points and it is potentially less efficient if you don‘t actually need the ig33 right then. So that‘s why I find this very surprising. This was no issue at all for you wheny ou were playing?
Usually I would also be worried about the opposite situation when you feel like you need the IG33 now and first have to make sure you have the 90 points for it ready to go. But I guess in this matchup this is less of a concern.
@ in the second case im not an user of ig33 i find it too fragile. So when I pull out it is a bonus I never really need it.
90 pts for an ammo truck no it isn’t expensive when you consider that you have an ig33 that will be useful whatever the situation on a map like slutsk and also in considering that you can take your arty without ammo truck at 120 pts.
I had the chance to pull out two 150 mm while with an ammo truck coming with im pretty sure i wouldn’t have spent two full ticks on arty.
The room let in the deck allows me to take ig18 that i cannot take if i don’t take the ig33 with ammo
That thing gives more pros than cons. But it is in my point of view. This choice i think is personal even if i find it more smart that bringing a big arty piece with ammo truck for 150 pts.
It is not a thing that i recommend but maybe more a thing that i advise to do.