'God Hates Fags' Church & Anti-Gay Navy Chaplain Debate, Agree on NOTHING
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- --Anti-gay debate with Jonathan Phelps of the "God Hates Fags" Westboro Baptist Church and former Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt.
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So if a gay man saved your son or daughter in combat you would still hate this individual?
Wow. Crazy vs crazy. That's actually amazing.
Stopped watching after he said "data from the bible".
If those two would just get a room, and get their freak on, they'd both be happier.
People don't like it when they are told that some of their favorite activities are 'sinful'. I'm sure there are some people that are just as angry (but quiet) when they are told that their excessive drinking is sinful.
They are like two marbles rolling around in a tin can.
Genius move by David....have these two idiots destroy each other.
Religion is dead. Religion, the greatest invention of man.
:)
+Caspar Lee is that why 120 Billion people around the World are the largest group in the world and continues to grow in numbers?
butte hurter i stop reading at 120 billion
i stop reading at Casper.
The two guys look exactly alike, they can pass for brothers.
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow. Literally every word of this is beyond fucked up.
I'm gay. I have a boyfriend. No, that's non-negotiable, I won't "finish" anything, I won't "become a celibate". No, that's not the definition of promiscuity, and on that note I know quite a bunch of straight people that fit much better into that category by their actual HABITS. I hold values such as courage, fortitude, honesty, mercy, kindness, solidarity. I see that quite a lot of "Catholics" are actually bitter bigots full of tyrannical hatred towards others and I WON'T respect that in any way, shape or form. I'm a libertarian, I'm right-wing in the actual VALUES that I hold and that I do ACTUALLY FOLLOW in the conduct of my own life. No, I don't like the idea of any TYRANNY, be it an all-powerful state or an almighty church regulating my and everyone's private life, enforcing through coercion and the monopoly of violence, with the supreme power of life or death over anyone, NO. That, no, never, non-negotiable. I'm gay, right-wing conservative, traditionalist AND libertarian. I'm not an extremist "God Hates Fags" nor condone this, I think this is barbaric behaviour and leads to a theocratic totalitarianism not in any way different from the murderous barbarians in the Middle Eastern countries that Catholics say they are so much different from, but then you look at those Westboro Baptists and think again. I'm no sheep and won't be led to any slaughter, be it Muslim, Catholic or Satanic. I'm a FREE HUMAN BEING and I DEMAND to be dealt with respect or I'll DIE shooting down at you barbarians from the heights and mountaintops, BUT I WILL NOT YIELD EVER. I will defend myself and my family. You barbarians will NOT have an easy time committing genocide, there's gonna be BRAVE people like me who WILL RESIST your TYRANNICAL BARBARITY.
There is no genocide of gay people. And your problem with Christian’s warning you about homosexuality is misplaced. I would not take this attitude to your grave if I were you. Eternity is a long time.
Would you look at that? A former military member cursing the military.
Last I checked, one of them got tackled at a protest of theirs. That's a start.
Not that I'd advocate it, I'm just saying they shouldn't be shocked at a reaction like that after all their protests.
People are still thinking that gay is bad.. They were born that way just saying ... Go grow up and then talk..
Excellent idea. Thanks guys for making this happen.
GOD DOESN'T HATE!!!!
Thank you for getting these show clips posted up so quickly! I really appreciate it.
I got kicked off Facebook for posting this 👍👍👍👍
Let thine who hasn't sinned throw the first stone " rev".
Any "success" in exorcism is comparable to false confessions obtained via intense or enhanced interrogation techniques and torture.
David is ethnically and culturally Jewish but not at all religious
You are a curse to Abraham.
This is genius! I love these extremists and their infighting!
It's frightening how they can speak so calmly about hatred.
just halfway through, but this is already awesome.
what an ingenious idea to bring those two together.
A butt is an exit as much as it looks like an entrance it isn't and anybody who force their way in or even trying are apists
I'm amazed David could maintain the debate without laughing!
David has not updated this video; Gordon was endorsed in the last 4 years by a member of the Colorado State Assembly who is Gay and respects Gordon and it is a mutual respect. Gordon is not anti-gay and it is apparent. Very easy to see; he has been mis-labeled.
If God created everything he created gay people too but he hates them. Kind of an oxymoron.
If God was real
Thank you for the clarification.
Brilliant, Pakman, brilliant. Well done, man.
O Lord, have mercy on me. O Lord, protect me. O Lord, have mercy on me and on all those impious people who take the holy scriptures to distort and deturpate your message and use them as a weapon to legitimise hating on their fellow neighbour. O Lord, I humbly implore, have mercy on those people, for they can't know just how mistaken they are, how wrong-headed they are, in hating others. Enlighten them with your light of divine truth, for they don't know any better than to judge and hate and condemn others, as they view themselves your annointed paladins of divine justice. Forgive their arrogance and pride and vanity and hatred and murderous wrath, for they know not any better. By the sign of the Holy Cross, deliver us, O God, Our Lord, from our enemies. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
David you are so awesome. I find it amazing you did not just laugh out loud.
"IT'S A CHRISTIAN NATION!"
...now if we could just figure out what 'christian' is...
Just looking at these two, God H8's hair
these guys almost combine for half a brain
David, this set up was absolutely Genius! Well, Done!
I swear, this was better than Friday Night Fights. I had to pause to microwave a bag of popcorn.
IGNORANCE VS. IGNORANCE = Total Loss & Viewer Win
Keep it up. It's a great strategy.
WBC makes me sick.
The followers of Christ believe that homosexuality is not something that you are born of, but a choice.
We were not meant to use the word of God to strike and use it as a sword to struck down other people...even sinners are meant to be just shown complete compassion
I have been called a devil's advocate by some of my friends, but no, that comment was not meant to be read that way. I was just trying to make a joke.
I love how people think that being gay is a choice
It's so sad that you already know that these guys are on the wrong side of history. This is the church's last stand, which is why they are blasting so loud.
I love men
same
@@EMTPeach me too lowkey bbc is my go to.
so like no head
You need more of these nuts on your show man. They are hilarious.
It's like Stalin and Hitler debating about who is more moral.
Thank god I'm an atheist.
I wonder how many times David had to practice the opening before he could say "gay exorcisms" with a straight face.
they are just trying to help gay people
God hates sin, not the person. Hate the sin, not the sinner.
Your belief is your belief. I just don’t see homosexuality as a sin, I thought the verse was mentioning man sleeping with child, not another man.
@@cm2402 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them...Leviticus 20:13
Considering that is old testament. It does mention it in the new testament. Also, remember that God says there is no sin greater than another except blasphemeing the Holy Ghost. A sin is a sin, at the end of the day. Doesn't matter what you did.
@@Daniel-ve3sc I hope you get the help you need, truly.
So sad that religion drives people to accept the belittlement and even killings of others.
Have the day you deserve, Daniel.
@cm2402 I never said anyone on this planet deserves to die. Number 1, that was old testament law, not new testament. Read my last.comments, no sin is greater then another except blasphemeing the holy spirit. I smoke cigarettes, and I hate it. I am not without sin. You are either trolling or lacking reading comprehension.
and so to conclude... the bible is as has always been open to interpretation to suit the readers views.
Am I the only peace loving person who felt psychotic listening to these two?
Degrees of insanity.
I don't think god would appreciate his subjects lawyering the shit out of his scriptures
They're definitely hypocrites. Not only do they lack understanding of God's judgement, they also lack understanding of His refining love, and more importantly His laws/traditions. The unbelieving sinner will be judged last as an act of grace, all these hypocrites will be judged first. You can bet your last gold nugget on that.
Gay exorcism....unbelievable. If I hadn't been someone they tried to foist this off on, and I'm Bi, I would never have believed that this was POSSIBLE in the 21st Century.
3 questions:
If the Bible is inspired by God, why is it so open to interpretation?
Is he not wise enough to have prevented these conflicted understandings?
How many religions do we have now, all claiming to be based on the bible?
STOP giving them airtime. Its what they want. It encourages them.
Wow. What a great idea, David or whoever came up with it. Very entertaining video.
its the spirit of homophobia that needs casting out ! Jesus has abolished the legalistic law of Moses and established Grace..dont they believe in Jesus then??
that the law is abolished ( 2 Corinthians 3:6-13 ; Ephesians 2:15 );
that Christ is the end of the law ( Romans 10:4 );
that it was the ministration of death ( Exodus 32:1-28 ), and that it is "done away" ( 2 Corinthians 3:7 );
that Jesus took away the first that He might establish the second ( Hebrews 10:5-9 );
that it was nailed to the cross ( Colossians 2:14-16 );
that those who had been under it had been delivered from it ( Romans 7:6 );
that they were dead to it ( Romans 7:4 );
that they were not under the law, but under grace ( Romans 6:14 );
that they were no longer under the schoolmaster ( Galatians 3:24 Galatians 3:25 );
that they were not required to serve the law ( Acts 15:1-24 ; Galatians 3:19 );
that the Christian who sought justification under the law had fallen from grace ( Galatians 5:4 );
and that now the righteousness of God is revealed without the aid of the law ( Romans 3:21 Romans 3:22 ).
.... Religion, religion.
This is a trip down the rabbit hole.
"Question everything". Good on you, sir.
The more I watch these broadcasts the more I know that I am going to hell.
Hell is not a manifestation of God's hatred it is a manifestation of human's fear.
Gordon Kliggenschmitt is the biggest creep ever
GOD HATES COOKIES!! He told me that...... Of course, that was after I ate a bag of shrooms..
you know if you read the Bible you'll find out that God DOESN'T hate gays but God loves everyone even gays and lesbians. And there is NO exception.
David Pakman, "Chaplain please respond to that - the idea that exorcisms are nonsensical."
How did he say that with a straight face?
An honest bigot is still a bigot, I don't see the point in trying to draw lines between bad and worse...
Listening to individuals who hold views like this makes me wonder what they would do with their time if they had no one to judge, no one to hold in contempt and no one to hate.
As a Christian I feel dismay that individuals such as these are becoming associated with what it means to be a Christian. I often think they are hijacking Christianity in a manner indistinguishable from that practiced upon Islam by radicals who identify with that faith. And I could not be more ashamed of them.
It NEVER says in the Bible that God hates gay people. It does, however, say that that God hates LIARS. If this man is saying that he is a Christian, he is a liar. Therefore, God hates him not gay people. We are in a kingdom born upside down my fellow humans. Judgment is SOLELY for God not for us. We are to LOVE and THAT IS IT. Spread the Truth and if someone does not want to listen then so be it. Do people like this really think they are gaining anyone's favor least of all God's?
Religion is destroying lives of innocent people, who are different.
The more attention the westboro sociopaths get, the fewer people who go to church. That works for me.
If god is omnipotent, then wouldn't anything he hates simply cease to exist, or never come into existence at all.
Pure entertainment :)
Psalm " Day and night they go around it
on its walls,
and iniquity and trouble are within it;
ruin is in its midst;
oppression and fraud
do not depart from its marketplace." Oh look I cut out what I wanted and I could easily turn this into anti 1% Percent comment- especially with Iniquity which means
1.gross injustice or wickedness.
2.a violation of right or duty; wicked act; sin. That can easily include Bankers or Governments. Its pretty easy with segments to promote something.
So here we had two people arguing over the proper way to mess with LGBT people through the use of religion. I think I'd rather watch a debate between Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich on good marriage practices...
These guys' heads would explode if they saw one episode of The New Normal. Please, please, please get them to watch an episode live on your feed show. I would love to watch them watch that show.
i'm surprised that the Westboro guy addressed my issue regarding the Chaplain's liability on failed exorcisms...probably the only point close to intelligence in this fantasy land
So I guess I learnt from this is, that intolerant bigots are as intolerant towards other intolerant bigots, as they are to everyone else who doesn't agree with their version of intolerant bigotry.
Both of these guys are childish and embarrassing to mankind.
Isn't it great that they all claim to love us? I have never felt so loved before. Can't you just feel the christian love oozing right outta their pores?
Hell is a punishment for non believers that have decided to separate themselves from god . That is want hell is separation from god for all eternity. That is want hell is for
Epiphany: actually grandpa phelps is an atheist who is trying his very best to give religion a bad name! Well played, sir!
He thinks that he's gonna go to heaven just because he's doing this
Great interview David, really well done.
Talking about what god thinks and wants is like discussing hierarchies in big foot society.
Let them have a voice, hiding moronic behaviour does not make it go away.
Their honesty doesn't change anything about their bigotry, I don't have to show them any respect. I respect their right to say what they want, as it's protected by the law I've sworn to uphold. I don't have to agree with them or give them any kind of credit for being honest.
Thanks for the discussion though, I appreciate your opinion.
Totally agree. Believers are stuck in the dark ages.
The New Testament is as disgusting as the Old Testament.
These two can't even agree on the same thing how can they say that it is true.
I grew up being LDS mormon, And from what i was taught is to accept everyone gay or not. We're NOT the judges That if you're gay that you're still accepted. The only sin of being gay is when you act upon the feelings. it's basicly like saying no sex till marriage but in this case Don't act upon your Gay feelings. Don't take my word for it i'm not the most educated mormon. infact i slept though most of my classes :P
First here, on the lef....er...right is Jonathan Phelps and on the rightER is Gordon Klingtomybibleshmidt.
David looks so amused lol
Woooow... this was surreal to watch these two uber-crazies conversing with eachother on the finer points of how to be properly insane...
I also had to laugh each time I saw the host on camera... BARELY able to contain himself. looool =P
I wonder when religious people will start presenting their beliefs as what they are - beliefs. NOT fact. There's a HUGE difference.
Between Adam and Moses there was no law to disobey
this is why this world makes me sick.
I wonder if these guys realize how crazy they sound.
Grandpa tell me about the good old days
Why is there so many Christianity if the word of God must not be misinterpreted?
Why not just stop watching his show if it bothers you? OK.