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BATTLE OF THE GOATS: the best USSSA bat vs. the best BESR bat - CF Zen vs Stealth Comp (BROKEN BAT)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2020
- The Bat Bros are celebrating ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND subscribers with our fans' most requested video - hitting with the GREEN CF ZEN. But we're gonna take even one step further by putting the best USSSA bat of all time up against the BESR GOAT - the 2008 Easton Stealth Comp Stiff.
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"This is stupid. Nobody should have this bat."
I said the same thing after getting drilled in the chest by a groundball last year lmao
for reals. Infield literally has no time to react it comes off the bat that quick.
Learn how to field a ground ball my friend got a concussion from a bad hop
@@physic_flickzzz9482 I know this comment is old but you can't control if a bad hop is gonna happen. You can still get hit with the ball and know how to field
@@pvtsooner yeah at least get it in front of you so there is more chance of making the play.
@Rooster Cogburns Eyepatch My cousin took one off the forehead from a Black Z-Core Connexion (which is what I assume you were talking about) but in a fastpitch softball tournament. Pitcher is only about 40' from home after releasing the ball. Screaming line drive right back at his face. He ducked just enough for it to ricochet off his forehead and go about 100' into the air. I was playing 3rd and caught the ball on the way down for the out just as my cousin was waking up from laying flat on his back. He had an enormous goose-egg on his head but refused to go to the walk in clinic and actually pitched the evening game that night, lol. But that's fastpitch players for you. Oh, and I went out and bought one of those bats the next week, lol. Made a completely different sound, the softball felt and sounded like a hardball going off of the bat. It was awesome...
Part of the reason the stealth was so good was that everyone popped the top off and shaved the inside. Those just hit nukes.
The Truth bro the exo is insane but the cf zen should be illegal like fr don’t you think
Yet You this bar has been banned for the longest time lmao
@@Carbia4 it’s banned cuZ grown ass men were swinging it in high school. Imagine college d1 senior hitting a ball like 110 to the hot corner
Mackey P I don’t think this specific model was ever in a -3 bbcor version. They only created it in a -5 which means high schoolers except maybe freshman in the summer travel ball season can use this bat. This was never used in college, they have a bbcor version that isn’t nearly as good for obvious reasons. The fact of the matter is, it isn’t banned completely in USSSA which is insane because it is beyond good.
@@harrisoncrawford6322 I was taking about the stealth which’s as a -3
8:30 That swing brought a tear to my eye. It was beautiful.
How come after I watched that part my eye started tearing up lol
I'm 42 and I remember the Z core in high school was amazing
I have a 33/30 black magic so if y’all wanna use it ill send it
Hope they see this
James C I have the old b5 too
this needs to happen
I found an old 34/31 black magic laying in the grass at a field😳
@@lucaskarnish7815 The bat equivalent of a barn find
“This is stupid. Nobody should have this bat.” Yeah every kid that has had to play against this has been saying that. 🤷🏽♂️
I’m a great ss and 2b and was always afraid of a kid when they had the green zen
the boys out here risking their lungs to hit dingers lol. love it
What?
Oh hahahaha
How?
@@total_yt4478 wildfire
I thought it was fog 🤣
I was playing first base when I was 13. We were undefeated in our tournament. The game was tied in the third inning, and we were hot. This nobody kid who was small, goes and jimmy jacks a ball 350 opposite field with an orange XL1. Still remember it to this day
Still waiting for the orange mako😂
Shits was juiced but the beast was the best
Finn Dillon V2 I can agree with u
Agreed
Cnt Stealth Comp is it
Finn Dillon V2 yeah mako beast -5 is goated
I’ve been here since the first episode with the 2020 Meta PWR. You guys are amazing. So underrated.
Same
Will, "This is stupid, nobody should have this." And that's why I have it.
I played a 13 year old last night he had a bad swing with the cf zen hit it 300 plus
@@Luke-zn4vm lmao that bat is so good
Why
Diggin’ the zombie apocalypse vib! Great clip fellas! It’s crazy how the green Zen still lives. I saw it this summer in a few Midwest USSSA tournaments.
This video brought the biggest smile to my face. I love baseball. Thanks Baseball Bat Bros!
I played when the Stealth came out and that thing was a game changer, everyone had one. It will forever be the GOAT.
That one lefty had some power in
His swing, I wish him the best in his career but that one kid sorry forgot his name crushed that ball. Damn y'all make me miss baseball man. I only made in to AAA for a season and that's it. Much love guys. RIP BAT
Lefty is in triple a other is committed to Washington
@@user-mp2ks8nt2q that's great to hear bro, I'm new to the channel so just out in left field with it lol.
No way that stealth comp is broken in. That was the bat when I was playing in college. It has a much deeper sound when broken in. The one y’all are swinging sounds new. They take forever to break in.
I’ve got a softball one so it might be different. I got it 4th or 5th hand and had it for two years. I can’t remember the last time I hit a single with it. If I get any barrel on the ball it’s going to the fence. It was a very different story 2 years ago when I got it, I had a season with only 3 balls to the fence. I stopped using it in juniors cause I was afraid it would kill the pitcher especially since the pitcher is way too close in softball. I took it to a state training with some older guys and they were hitting line drive homers like Stanton. It just keeps getting stronger.
Yes they said it’s stuff I think
How can a bat be structurally broken in? I don’t understand I would think it would drop off the more use
@@PerforatedPaperboy it’s composite so the things in the bat need to get farther away from each other for the ball to go farther. So the things in the bat are all packed in and each swing the things in the bat go farther and farther away
@@PerforatedPaperboy I understand this comment is a year old, and you probably either already figured this out or don't care anymore, but I'll explain (this is gonna get technical and wordy, I'm sorry). In baseball bat/ball collision physics (that's a strange phrase), there is a concept called the "trampoline effect", whereby the physical compression and depression of the material that makes up the bat either dampens or strengthens the exit velocity of the hit via inertia. In composite bats especially, the trampoline effect is very pronounced in old bats where the adhesive binding the layers of carbon fiber breaks down, which causes the overall stiffness of the composite to be lessened. While this may seem counter-intuitive, the softness of the fiber causes greater trampoline effects on contact, creating higher exit velocities. In part with the discovery of the "Trampoline Effect", it was clear that modern composite and metal alloys were presenting a massive safety concern for high school and college defenders, due to the heightened exit velocities giving infielders, and the pitcher especially, less time to move and avoid come-backers and liners. To avoid the potential deaths of college and high school players, NFHS and NCAA adhere to the BBCOR standard, which determines a maximum legal trampoline effect from any portion of a bat's barrel, if any portion of the bat creates a combined bat-ball speed value of over .50, it is deemed illegal in BBCOR and is subsequently de-certified by NCAA (and usually NFHS as well but not always). In contrast, youth players do not create batted-ball speeds high enough to warrant the same standard of speed dissipation of BBCOR bats, so the USSSA certification is significantly less strict about bats with excessively high trampoline effects, which in turn birthed this generations gorilla-ball bats, the CF Zens and Cat9 Comps, which are basically just manual-action cannons given to 11 year olds.
New channel name: "The Baseball Bat Breakers" lmao yall hit some nukes in this one.
You guys NEED to keep this camera angle literally looks like you’re straight out of a video game
Why would they change it?
Yes I recognize that zen sound from Cooperstown, every time a kid came up to bat they had that thing in their hands
Yeah
Yeah I play 13 u went to Cooperstown got 4th kid u not 6’2 160 hits it like 320 dead center
most of the used zens on ebay are spider webbing and are charging $500. People hit them to death and sell them right before they're dead
i got a zen a couple weeks ago for 500 new and its unreal how juiced it is
I remember seeing giant 15 year olds using that bat when I was 14. Literally a nuke every time
Ellipse I bought one 32/24 at a used sports store for 130 bucks barely even a scratch on it original grip tape the store owner evidently had no clue the significance of this bat cuz 130 is a absolute steal on that bat and when I informed him about it he tried to persuade me not to buy it but i did and oh my God this bat is absolutely insane I am 30 years old haven’t played in 12 years but I hit regularly every since and wow I hit nukes with this thing part of me wants to sell it for 500 but my heart is saying keep it
brandon6768 keep it
Brandon the drop 8 is NOT nearly the same bat as the drop 5. Those are not the same. You paid about what that bat goes for used in that length. People aren’t really wanting a bat that light in a 32 inch
The sound of the steath comp is so satisfying!
I was gonna suggest Eastons Black Magic because we use to crush scoreboards with it, then you mentioned they were old as hell and I slumped back in my recliner and realized that it was in 1984, 37 years ago. Well now I feel old, Thanks guys
Yknow...before today I didn't know I was going to go down a rabbit hole involving baseball bats. Yet here I am. Thumbs up
Some of you guys aren't old enough to remember that Omaha Classic. Heck, even bats like the 777 were nutty off the barrel.
Just imagine jt with either of these 😳
You got good vids bat bros; the camera angles bring me back to the early 2000s hitting bombs in HS, and I loved that shit.
Having not played baseball in about 15 years, IDK what's up with bats nowadays, but these composite bats don't impress me. They seem to break real easily for starters, and I really don't think they're better than -5 Alum alloy bats from 15-20 years ago. Idk wtf BBCORE is, but we had the BESR BS back then, and could only use -3 bats in HS ball. I had an Air Attack 2 -5 that I was allowed to use in other leagues, and that thing was ABSURD. I was hitting 400 ft shots when I was 14 yrs old FFS (I was 6'5 200LBS at that age). It didn't break that quickly either.
The old easton Connextion bats were pretty good too. I have one of the OG connections (from around 200) that I used occasionally in HS, and it was a little dead at the time. I had a Air C555 that was pretty good too, but I think I liked the Omaha Classic the best
Got the first Easton composite bat 34/31, used it 3 at bat, got diagnosed with cancer after that. I didn’t played anymore until 7 years later in a wood bat league. And before that the z2k -5 was a killing machine
Try going to perfect game tournaments were literally some how every single kid had the green cf zen
Fr play 13u major in Texas went to a pg tourney in Dallas faced this Cali top notch baseball team every kid had cf zen or yellow and black demarini
Noah on 60fps it’s insane they are really rare when they’re not retooled and if the aren’t they cost 800 buck I don’t know how all the kids have them
I hated that. Soon as I saw that bat I was like 😫 here we go. Bunting into outfield smh
Antonio Leto it’s how it is out here in California. Teams will buy them up. Then they get to bbcor and wonder why they can’t hit
@@noahon60fps39 I’m on that team that funny
Imagine if JT was there tho
Imagine 😤😳
450 dead center.
I'm here.
I remember when I came across my first bat bro’s video on composite vs aluminum and subbed immediately. Fall of 2019. Simpler times
Gotta love getting on TH-cam to see a video from y’all , just to hear the excitement of hitting a bat and hearing beautiful sound !!!
Just got outa practice haha been waiting to watch this. Y’all r amazing thanks for blessing our TH-cam feed and congrats on 100k guys. Keep it up💪
The stealth bat is absolutely insane and the 2017 cf zen is crazy
Nothing like the sound of the orange stealth. But my favorite BESR was the black Voodo. I almost cried when I cracked it
Still can believe these guys only have 100k subs they make such good videos
We used to call the Zen a ping pong paddle bc of how it sounded
The cf zen was a missing in action, may it rest in pieces.
I’m 24 and my favorite bat from back in the day is the TPX triton, the original version. I had so much fun with that bat.
I’m surprised I’ve never seen a video about the original Models of the Demarini F2. The orange and blue F2 from 2004/2005ish was an absolute menace in the right hands.
Been here since the first video! 100k LFG!
Same
LETS GO. Congrats on 100k I remember finding your channel when I was looking at vids for the meta pwr. Much love ❤️
I have a 2002 Easton ZCore 33/30 that I may be willing to donate to the cause. Hit a whole lot of bombs with that stick 18 years ago. Would be a great video to compare the first BESR bats (Omaha TPX, ZCore, etc.) to the first BBCOR bats and see what the performance difference is.
There’s a small mom and pop store here that has those green CF Zens on the shelf along with a few Black Magic’s. Not sure how long they’ve been there. But the owners have been in business since 1954 selling sports equipment. I live on an island in Alaska.
Also a few other DeMarini, Easton and other makes. Baseball was popular they said and than it dropped off and they’ve been selling mostly darts and football hockey softball gear.
32/27 and 31/26 new in the wrappers.
I just picked all seven of the bats they had on hand.
Going to make a killing on eBay for these new bats.
Whoa whoa whoa. Ive gotta say that the OG orange Easton Mako is the best from my age group
Y’all should add some sort of exit velo element to the vids
I had an Easton Z-Core Redline in high school. I got it in 99, but cracked it by the end my senior year in 00. RIP the GOAT of my time. I do still have a white LS TPX from ~95 still in good condition, though.
Huge fan! Generally not a critic BUT you mentioning the exo (which I had in high school) reminded me of the hottest bad I ever played with. Louisville/ TPX made a series of “genX” bats. The blue air gen1X was easily the most overpowered bat I’ve hit with in my life. Do us all a favor, use your connects, and and find one of these gems!
This field is just bad luck for composite bats😂
I’m well past high school and college, but I’d be interested to see you guys try the budget bbcor bats like the $60 Easton Typhoon I had to use when bbcor started (of course I mean for you guys to use the current budget bats) just to see how inferior they may or may not be.
You gotta break in that stealth either take 100s of cage swings or wrap it in bubble wrap like we did an run it over back an forth in the driveway to compress the composite. It passed BESR cert but the trampoline affect after use multiplied lol
Demarini CF4 pitch black, 33-30 besr. We had Easton come out with the orange stealth, but my team was able to keep hitting farther with the CF4, we even had the Voodoo pitch black besr 33 30, and it was hitting just as far as the orange stealth.
one of the most underrated bats: 2015 Demarini Voodoo Overlord
💯 My son still swings one in 2021 and it BOMBS
i have the cf zen drop 5 and it’s cracked but still has crazy pop
That orange stealth is insane. I remember watching so many bombs in high school with those
Old Demarini Vendetta C6 Composite was also a HOT bat back in the day when it was broke in!
Yo bat bros underrated 👍🤝
33 in orange Easton xl1 much more pop, endloaded feel like a bbcor and won’t break.
Joe D from Michigan? This is big Alex dad from Angles. My boy loves his Zen! You know what he did with it.
Had a 09 voodoo black i used all throughout high school, baseballs just popped off the sweet spot, barely even felt it
Thanks for the video, but just make sure you all are staying safe with the fires out there
My freind dulin has a small whole on it he hits it on the other side and still brought the ball 370
Is this a new camera angle? It’s so good
loved the stealth growing up. I was more of a fan ofthe white vs the black or orange though don't know if there was a difference but there definitely was for me.
Just truly realized how old I am lmao everyone was swinging the green stealth in little league then the orange stealth showed up a bit before BBCOR. I had the yellow easton composite around 2014 and that thing was insane.
You guys should try to find the worst bats on the web and hit with them. (Worst rated and/or the cheapest
yes! I was gonna make a video doing that in game, someone told my coach and he said if i do that im off the team
@@DeadlockSports1 lmao
The drop 5 orange Easton XL1 was similar to the green CF. Demo one of those.
The orange 2015?
Stolen comment, other one is hearted though.
Can you guys kind of explain more what like a bbcore is and things like that for people like me that have no idea about baseball but just love the videos. Thanks fellas
Gotta get the white easton stealth. I used that, it is nuts. 12 years later and it still has pop.
This turned from battle of the goats to trying to break the zen lol
It has to be the air quality. Any Easton Stealth ever made hits absolute nukes. So the one you used was either dead or it's the air
No it did good but the zen is just way better
@@rhettpitarro5109 it was probably dead
Best bat from my era and I’ll die on this hill as the best ever, Easton Redline C-core. Absolute flame thrower, hit bombs with that all day.
I love the videos! My 13 year old uses drop 5 Zen but for fun he occasionally brings out his old cracked drop 10 Zen at field and it's crazy how much pop it has. He hits it at least 20 feet further which seems like same thing that happened on this video
Easton xl1 next, it’s a bit cheaper usually and absolute gas in the -5
Idk if it’s true but if the heart means your gonna try to do this I’m pumped
Had to retire my green zen this weekend😔😔🤧🤧
Every person I know that used that bat had a really hard time when bbcor came around so its probably for the best👍
Because the Comp isn't broken in. They were made similar to Easton's slow pitch bats. You have to swing it about 2,000 times before its broken in. The bat will actually have a Crack sound instead of the high pitch sound.
love watching these dudes just send balls to the atmosphere every vid😂
Imagine thinking its a good day to play when smoke is everywhere
Imagine playing fortnite
Isn’t it crazy that the entire west coast is in flames.
U how is he a snowflake he was just saying it’s crazy
U bro get a life plz
U yeah
A guy on my high school team had a blue TPX Dynasty that was an absolute fire stick, then first Gen Exogrid are my personal favorites. I have an old school black magic I bought just to have.
The exit velo when it was breaking was insane
Imagine being the 4 people who disliked
Rip that zen, it seemed dead from the start
Na that’s just how it sounds
Yeah this bat literally sounds like that after a bp session or 2
Mackey P that’s why most people use it in games only
@@grantfordonski8114 right. I jsit got mine for sh*ts and gigs haha
The orange stealth is the hottest bat when broken into the point where its outer shell cracks. Used it in college and we would wrap a towel around it and beat the hell out of it with on a light poll. The towel was to protect the warranty so they didn't think we were doing what we did. try that out then hit with the same bat. I'm telling you it will be worth it.
For comparison… I would start doing Hitter Profiles like the do in Boxing/MMA…
Now batting: Johnny coming in at 6’2” 210lbs, 35 years old, played ball at XYZ University during 2008-2012 and his gamer back then was an Easton whatever…
It would be cool for everyone to see how different generations of players hit and what they swung. I’m nostalgic and loved my Gorilla Bat Era where you might hit one 400’… but 6 minutes later you might take one off the leg at 3rd base and be fitted with a wooden peg and be nicknamed Pirate Pete or Stumps Magee…
Who would like to see the Z1000 vs the 2019 Meta Prime. LETS MAKE THAT HAPPEN!!!!!
LIKE!!!👇👇👇
Well the green demerits is supposed to be swung by 14 and under not 25 year olds
Okay and it still has the same juice lol. Its the same bat doesnt matter how old you are
The damn reverb. I'm not into the sport I'm just enjoying the audio and just you guys fuckin smashing the shit outta these bats
you guys need to get your hands on a Rip-It prototype II. I used that bat all throughout high school and still today. thing hits bombs
Not sure how I got to this video but here I am putting in my 2 cents. The most juiced bat ever was the -5 Easton Z2K, hands down. After I finished playing pro ball in 99 a buddy put together a team of 15-16 ex pros to play what we called old man baseball. For some reason the league insisted that we use aluminum rather than wood so we bought a few of the Zs. How we didn't kill someone with those things in our hands is a miracle, though unfortunately we did hurt quite a few guys. A 375ft wood dbl suddenly became a 425ft+ moonshot. Groundballs got through before fielders could react. It wasn't fair. After 3 seasons they made us use wood. Have swung a few more contemporary bats over the years out of curiosity but nothing compared to the Zs. If canseco, dunn, mcguire, etc ever swung one of those we might see a baseball travel 600ft+.
The goat is the Stealth comp. Used those my senior year top heavy bats but they dropped tanks.
as far the GOAT, as 35 year old it was the "Air Attack 1" the original air attack. it was pretty ridiculous. but ive never used these so who knows those original air attacks were pretty sick though
I’m loving this wider camera
2013 Easton xl3 drop 5 was my all time favorite
For the longest time. I thought I was original and slightly unique because I'm the ONLY person in the state of Michigan whom you will hear greet anyone and say "WhatUpWhatup?!" 🤣 lmao nowwww I've comfortably fallen into giving it to Will the WhatUpWhatUp! In the name of great ContentContent!
Y’all should review the new 2021 mizuno B21 bat pleaseeee it’s a balanced bat and want to know if it’s good
Miken made a baseball bat for 1 season, I think in 2005. The baseball Miken Freak is by far the best performing bat of all time.
We need some love for the 2008 BESR DeMarini Vexxum and 2008 BESR TPX EXO.
If you guys ever do a fan service video like this again, I definitely want to see both of those go head to head.
Vexxum or Voodoo, either are gas. I think the Vexxum is super underrated though.
Man the Louisville Slugger Air Attack and the Easton Redline C-Core are two of the best bats I ever had I believe they stopped making them in the late 90s.
The sound of that Stealth 😍
I don't remember what model easton I had back in about 2010 when I was 8 or 9, but it was a nuke machine, I used it so much that I bent the bat at the tapper and had to scrap it.