The film look, with a film camera.

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2023
  • Today we test film vs. digital in the first of multiple videos about different typed of film. Today we look at 35mm Kodak vision3 200T shot on an Arricam LT, 4-perf, and see how it compares to digital footage from the Arri Alexa mini LF. A lot of people chase the film look, one easy way to get it is to shoot on film. In each shot we had the same exact setup for each camera. We used an Arri 35mm Master Prime. On the Alexa mini we shot in arriraw. We also used frame lines on the Alexa to match the size of the film. We take a look at some quick grading in Davinci Resolve, utilizing the built in Kodak 2383 lut. The Kodak 200T film was processed and scanned to 6.5k prores 4444 XQ. It looks amazing. Also, color grading film in Davinci Resolve is amazing...
    If you want to learn more about how to shoot film, stay tuned.
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  • @BlaineWestropp1
    @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Quick note. When we were looking at the highlights, we were looking at EI 200 on the Alexa. I “matched” both cameras as to not get too confusing here. I will be posting more tests, in controlled scenarios, but in the meantime you can have a look at one of our scenes at different ISOs, where we can see the highlight differences, here: media.discordapp.net/attachments/1123080500601434265/1189673826351579153/stripe.jpg?ex=6616fd97&is=66048897&hm=ee75b7f695962c2fa9a27c81385774b00728b5f46a3c9f7f13880e96252101fe&

    • @alex_smkp
      @alex_smkp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That clarifies my confusion about matching. Because with a higher ISO on Alexa Mini you should be able to achieve a better highlight rolloff, right?

    • @GencoUney
      @GencoUney 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      While doing all this you're using DaVinci's "tone mapper" during conversion which is garbage.
      Also you're looking at the log footage directly when comparing the "raw". Looking at log footage is looking at spreadsheet of numbers, apply a view transform which is for your display and never look at log footage directly. AgX Resolve, OpenDRT, JzDT are free DCTLs which will allow you to do this and control it nicely.
      Is there any way we can access the raw footage to see it for ourselves?

    • @The_Daliban
      @The_Daliban 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Quick question:
      Is there any chance we can purchase some frames of the scenes as test footage to play around with?
      That way you could make some cash back and we could enjoy the luxury 🙏🏻😬
      Maybe?
      Just realized you might want to release that with your upcoming grading tutorial😅👌🏻
      If you want to at all, of course

  • @jaketg1080
    @jaketg1080 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Blaine. Your content is absolutely definitive of trimming the fat. Straight up useful information and knowledge, no waffle. Huge appreciation for real creators like you that also work in the industry and can actually apply their knowledge and also are learning in a professional setting

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey thank you so much! That means a lot as I definitely actively try and trim the fluff.

    • @jaketg1080
      @jaketg1080 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 your videos have always been concise and information dense so just know it’s very appreciated :)

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you thank you :)

  • @cokebottles6919
    @cokebottles6919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    Love this. The range is crazy on film, and I've been wanting someone to do a direct comparison. I sometimes feel a little spoiled just shooting on Alexa, given what clients are willing to pay in my area. Film would be a whole new level and would require some real salesmanship. Glad you got to make this, and I hope you're able to use film on your coming project!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Hey thank you! I really love it. The Alexa is definitely my original love, and will continue to love it, but I definitely want to shoot some commercial projects on film. Going to try and make it happen!

  • @complexity5545
    @complexity5545 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    As someone who used to copy film to digital in the early 2000s, my god, film editing is time-consuming and horrible. Digital is actually better at sampling and post production since 2011.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      where did you do that process? tell me more!

  • @MichaelSchmidt_UrbnPxl
    @MichaelSchmidt_UrbnPxl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    pure awesomeness ... that highlight roll-off on film is pure magic

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolute magic

    • @loveinthelandfill1124
      @loveinthelandfill1124 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Is there a way to replicate film highlight roll-off in digital videos?

  • @Mobius1_
    @Mobius1_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is incredible. I shoot 2 different YT channels on digitally, but love stills on film. To see someone posting 35mm videos here is absolutely amazing. You're going to blow up.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🫡😇 more to come..

  • @rizzo-films
    @rizzo-films 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love this so much. Us prosumer TH-camrs have been chasing the film look for so long that I feel like we’ve gone away from it in a way. It’s super interesting to actually look at film side-by-side with one of the best cinema cameras out there. I learned first on film (shooting it and editing by hand) so it’s surreal to return to it like this. Also reminds me of how much I still love film. It’s a little flatter but richer in its own way. Not better or worse, just its own kind of beauty.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think l you nailed it. Not better or worse, just different. Also, that’s cool that you cut by hand. I’ve never done that!

  • @LarsGoldbachDP
    @LarsGoldbachDP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Eye- and information-candy!!! Thanks so much for this Blaine!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you thank you :) more to come!

  • @g1234538
    @g1234538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I've been diving into the subject of film's ability to retain highlights. Yeah, with the "toe" of negative film's characteristic curve you don't want to rely on bringing stuff from the shadows as much.
    Two important notes: exposing for the shadows, or merely increasing exposure, not only lets you take advantage of the latitude to not end up with murky shadows, but also because you're exposing more silver it should appear less grainy.
    The exact amount you can overexpose differs based on sources, but Tim Parkin has done tests of Portra stocks which are very similar to the Vision 3 stocks and he's shot scenes containing 18+ stops of information. He's measured Portra 400 at 17-19 stops of DR. Some figures people have given about other films and slide films are even limited by the scanner!
    Excellent comparison, this was really great to watch!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wow this is amazing info. For my next test I will definitely push harder on the film. 4 stops is really nothing.. even for most digital sensors. 250D up next!

    • @86Sheephead
      @86Sheephead 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Slide film has far inferior dynamic range compared to neg film such as Portra. If you over-expose slide you're gonna have a bad time.

    • @g1234538
      @g1234538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@86Sheephead That's right. I'd only mentioned slide film because I was mentioning scanning. The very dense parts can have more information that may be harder to get with less capable scanners.
      It was only another example, not saying it has the same DR as negative film.

    • @vlcthefish
      @vlcthefish 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Whats natural about film highlights is that it overloads gracefully into white. With digital it towards white and simply clip as soon as they get there and there is no gradual overload. Film self-masks as it gets more exposed it gets less sensitive to light so it makes it just a little harder to overexpose that particular grain....basically the crystal structure of film gets less sensitive as it nears capacity so there is more light needed to go from 9/10 to 10/10 than there was to go from 8/10 to 9/10. With digital it records each time light hits a pixel until it's full then records nothing.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great info here!

  • @DespaRobinson
    @DespaRobinson 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Delivering the knowledge in the coolest way. Keep it coming Blaine.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you 😊 more to come.

  • @tannerbrowningfilms
    @tannerbrowningfilms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent review of the top in both fields. Thanks for doing this for us all!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you thank you! more to come :)

  • @JoeyVantes
    @JoeyVantes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing my friend. Beautifully done. Thanks

  • @audaz5186
    @audaz5186 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    film highlight rolloff is crazy, nice video

  • @Asomers322
    @Asomers322 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow Blaine. This is top notch. Thanks for sharing these extremely valuable little nuggets

  • @lumbum_
    @lumbum_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is incredible. Thank you. And low key the best ad inclusion. The ai audio link goes crazy. Thank you for that.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha thank you! This was my first time doing that (an ad inclusion). Also the link match is really awesome. Used it for the music in this video.

  • @CinePals
    @CinePals 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was a fun inspiring video. Thank you for taking the time to put this together and share your experience, really enjoyed it.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey! thank you so much :)

  • @LukeHolliday
    @LukeHolliday 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for doing this video! There’s such a shortage of helpful content on shooting film. So cool to see how much latitude it holds! And also great to see you can easily correct shooting tungsten stock in daylight scenes ✨

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was so happy about the ability to push the tungsten stock. Looks great. I have some more videos coming on film. Stay tuned!

  • @AllgoodthingsTv
    @AllgoodthingsTv 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    At 5:47 in the top left of the frame, if you look at the detail on the blue lamp attached to the wall you can see the significant difference in sharpness between the Alexa and the film camera. That may be what some people are going for, but as someone who shot film by necessity through much of the 90s, it's interesting to see how easily people are willing to forego what was the holy grail to film shooters back in those days - sharpness! People were paying a lot of money to try to find the sharpest lens they could, but film will never be as sharp as digital. And I'm not talking about sharpening in post, I'm talking about straight out of the camera.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yes it definitely has a softness to it, I still felt like I could get a sharp image, I was using a master prime though.

    • @g1234538
      @g1234538 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BlaineWestropp1 Seems completely unrelated to the film. Looking at the full clip he just posted, it's just the lens. That same lamp gets sharp when stopped down. Either it's missed focus or the lens is softer at wider apertures.
      Because there's been a TON of Super35 content that when scanned at 4k are ridiculously sharp.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yep. I was also moving focus a little bit and a slight move may be the reason for that lamp being out.

  • @Edensproject
    @Edensproject 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you for this down to earth practical knowledge, love your attitude

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks! More to come.

  • @prod999solo
    @prod999solo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You packaged all this info in such a cool and unique way. thanks for sharing!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you :) more to come…

  • @lkmccamley
    @lkmccamley 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wow Blaine! you're always doing the coolest stuff and you never cease to amaze me with your expansive knowledge and skillset. Very impressive!

  • @SamMcGhee
    @SamMcGhee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    A. Thank you for the cost analysis.
    B. This made me respect both 35mm film AND my Alexa so much more just seeing the similarities. This confirms my choices.
    C. I want the LUT you're creating. 🤤

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hahah stay tuned, its coming!

  • @tilleyyellit
    @tilleyyellit 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow! I’m so glad someone had the funds to make this video! Need more 35mm videos!

  • @danielp_adams
    @danielp_adams 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Blaine, definitely haven't seen such a complete and practical breakdown of film vs. digital on here before. Cheers!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thank you so much! Can’t wait to post more about it.

  • @keith-knittel
    @keith-knittel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best and most straighforward film vs digital video I've ever seen! Love the comparisons and looking forward to the next videos

  • @Filmboy24
    @Filmboy24 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison! Thanks for sharing!

  • @theDyingArts
    @theDyingArts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This is dope dude. The first dozen music videos I directed in the 00s were all shot on ARRI 435s ... I can't explain the feeling of attending the film transfer (after nervously waiting for processing) and seeing what we'd shot as it was graded. Pure magic. It looked like a movie, it was all right there. Sadly once RED cameras came out I never shot on film ever again. This was great to see it side by side an Alexa.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The film really does look nice. That’s cool you shot a bunch of music videos on film. Would love to see them..!

  • @d0ntchange
    @d0ntchange 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another incredible video in another amazing hoodie…thank you for this ✅

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      haha thank you. love that hoodie.

  • @FlorianBodlee
    @FlorianBodlee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Incredible video! Thank you for putting in the effort to create this, greatly appreciated! 🥳

  • @Apatura123
    @Apatura123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't wait to see more!

  • @MattAitia
    @MattAitia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video Blaine! Love how in depth you went

  • @emersonsenseman2182
    @emersonsenseman2182 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Dude, this was so awesome! So rad to really see what it takes to shoot film. I can't wait to see if you end up shooting film for your commercial work in the future. Keep it up!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you so much! I have a lot more to share here about film, other stocks, comparing to other cameras, deeper dives. stay tuned!

    • @emersonsenseman2182
      @emersonsenseman2182 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 so stoked!

  • @talktalk4503
    @talktalk4503 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome. Been wanting to see someone do this in this century. Thx ❤

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha thank you. I have more on the way!

    • @talktalk4503
      @talktalk4503 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 look fwd definitely

  • @emilthilsing
    @emilthilsing 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favourite channel atm. No doubt!!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much:) that means a lot. More to come…

  • @YuvalAloni
    @YuvalAloni 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Are we going to see 35mm film only TH-cam videos from now on?
    yes please.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s either that or my iPhone…

  • @HeartflashProductions
    @HeartflashProductions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this! So inspiring to watch ⚡️👍🏼

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. I have a few deeper tests on the way. Will be great!

  • @aashotoshsk9387
    @aashotoshsk9387 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Happy Holidays, my dude. I found your channel this year and it's absolutely been a game changer. You're criminally underrated, hopefully you'll see a lot more subs in '24, Anyway, where is past 2 of that 2 parter video? been eagerly waiting for it.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks so much! 😊😊 Part 2 is coming!

  • @itsmarcocanlas
    @itsmarcocanlas 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    holy cow... this film footage in unreal
    well done sir!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks! I do love it..

  • @The_Daliban
    @The_Daliban 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:38 Looks absolutely beautiful.
    Really looking forward to your powergrades, luts or whatever is coming👍🏻👌🏻
    Happy New Year!!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thank you! Happy new year :)

  • @kwa42
    @kwa42 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome dude! Love the video. Got into 16mm this year and absolutely love it. Was great to see the side by side with digital examples!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I gotta get into 16mm. I want to get a camera. A 235, or an SR!

  • @julienpierb
    @julienpierb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am late to the party for this one! Such a great comparison. I've never had the chance to work on a set that shot film but now you've created a need in me.

  • @BoyXx76
    @BoyXx76 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing how little work is needed to make it look good and how well it holds up being pushed around! Film ftw!!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was very happy how easily you can push it around and how little you need to do to make it look good.

  • @PeaLoop
    @PeaLoop 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So interesting. Great stuff.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you.. more to come!

  • @diegoramxs
    @diegoramxs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am envious, you have been able to make the video that every Filmmaker lover would want to make.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      its crazy.. I have really wanted to do this for a very long time. and this is just part 1. there is much more. cant wait to share it.

    • @diegoramxs
      @diegoramxs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh! I will be the first to see.
      I really like this content!
      thank you@@BlaineWestropp1

  • @kidcoma1340
    @kidcoma1340 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With all these discussions about film vs digital, AI art vs traditional art, and so on, people often forget that art is not just about the end result, but about the process as well (for many artists, the process is actually THE most important thing)
    I think we are at a point where we can emulate the film look 99%, and soon we get tools where we can achieve that even faster. But this video did a great job of capturing the magic that shooting film can be. And of course this alone already changes the end result in a positive way.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally agree with ya. The process is very different shooting on film, and it is something I enjoy. As mentioned, it changes my focus in a good way.

  • @QualityVideoService
    @QualityVideoService 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great comparison video, I have not been able to find any such test. I'm still divided between digital and film, but this is where we are in the 21st century.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I couldn’t find this test either. And there are a few other film related tests that I can’t find that I’m working on now! More to come.

  • @maximilian-auer
    @maximilian-auer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Damn, Blaine. You nailed the sequence for the film reveal at 3:35. Goosebumps.

  • @thejackoss
    @thejackoss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gorgeous footage, on both cameras, honestly. I'm working on a project which we're thinking of shooting on film, will be the first time for me. Would love a video about your process for exposing on film. Thanks for the upload anyway, hope your channel blows up!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks! That’s cool. I have more videos coming that will cover a lot more 😊

  • @LazySlothProductionsLLC
    @LazySlothProductionsLLC 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your PowerGrades can't come soon enough! And that breakdown too of the matching film and digital too. Great work as usual!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stay tuned 😉

    • @LazySlothProductionsLLC
      @LazySlothProductionsLLC 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Will do! Also looking forward to those Mini LF LUTs for the over exposure. @@BlaineWestropp1

  • @LFPAnimations
    @LFPAnimations 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think 16mm is the sweet spot. Modern scanning tech is so good that super16 can look very clean and also Arriflex SR2 works well for handheld work. Super16 is also much less expensive than 35mm.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have been eyeing the SR2. I think you are right. I really like 35, but I do think 16 is nice and has a great look and is more doable

  • @mcorsig
    @mcorsig 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video as always. 👋

  • @WasabiNoise
    @WasabiNoise 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Legend! I’ve always bern curious about this.
    Looking forward to a video where you try to match the film look.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      stay tuned... its coming!

  • @orestfilm
    @orestfilm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the video. Love film ❤️

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure thing! I love it. More tests to come :)

  • @leoodekerken1423
    @leoodekerken1423 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very good comparaison, we can clearly see how close the arri Alexa is to film and this is amazing, even if we prefer film !

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Yep. It’s wild. I have some deeper tests on the way!

  • @DethronerX
    @DethronerX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always love honest reviews with evidence. Ive shot both, not 35mm yet, not even 16mm yet, only super8, but I have some rolls and basic startup cameras for 16 and 35 and I cant wait to shoot them. To me, both are mediums of art and have their differences and I enjoy both. Good luck on your future projects on film. One thing is for sure, film gets you more emotionally involved, in the process and in the post production and the final look. Still is good, but as soon as you see motion is where the beauty comes out in the dreamy motion blur on film, whereas on digital, even on the same framerate, feels more realistic and smooth

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      agreed! would love to see some stuff you have shot, as well as when you shoot on 16 and 35!

    • @DethronerX
      @DethronerX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 I had some ideas planned for my first super 8 rolls, but due to my friends being busy, I got pissed off hahah and I just wasted them mostly on random stuff, didn't bother to stabilize anything, but, I will upload them once I receive the final scans, because the low res previous I got were heavily cropped, because the Lab had set their DaVinci to 16:9 as default resolution, so top and bottom are cut, so again pissed off, and Im never sending anything to that lab again, also because they only work on fortnights and also reply to emails after 2 to 3 weeks or even a month, which makes everything frustrating. I sent them 10 rolls and all those are still stuck somewhere in the mail and all i have are stupid cropped mp4s. I got one done by Pro8mm and that was the best, but they charged so much.
      But next time Ill send to On8mil in UK, since im in Asia, its closer.
      Also, ill upload when I have a better computer with space, so I can install After Effects and DaVinci, as here I only have Photoshop, that loads videos but only does basic cutting, but no stabilization.
      As for 16mm etc, Ive written down a simple idea and managed to convince my 2 friends to act, but in the process of transferring the typed text to Final Draft to turn it into a script and we'll get on it.
      Thanks

  • @MaurideHaro
    @MaurideHaro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for taking the time doing this great comparison! In all honesty I thing nothing can compare to 35mm film.... PERIOD. It's just the best look possible. So if you have the money and time, always film!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks! I do really like the look. I think the Alexa can get you there but it is nice shooting on and looking at the film.

  • @anhdvids
    @anhdvids 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was such an awesome in-depth test! Also, fun to see someone I know in your video haha

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks! You know Arjun?

  • @mitchellbrinkerdp
    @mitchellbrinkerdp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That footage is looking spicy. Chef's kiss

    • @mitchellbrinkerdp
      @mitchellbrinkerdp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also, go with the 235 if you need something for lighter handheld work. Wont be disappointed.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I definitely want to use the 235 for anything not in studio!

  • @riskybiscutz
    @riskybiscutz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only ever shot with film once, but it was the best and most fun I’ve ever had shooting anything. Idk if it’s an accurate assessment, but I feel like the film did SO much heavy lifting in terms of color and highlight exposure, to the point where it actually felt EASIER to shoot on film than digitally. Even with just a rec709 applied to the log scan gave the colors a liveliness that digital can’t compete with. I love this video!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hey thanks! I feel ya, I really like it, I like the process, and the colors look great right off the scan! its definitely a fun experience. I think they are times for both.

  • @chrisniswonger
    @chrisniswonger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the transparency on the co$t. 👌

  • @joshclark9700
    @joshclark9700 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude your content is unmatched. You touch on all the things that I’ve wondered about as I’ve been on my DP journey so thank you!! Quick question: how do change the T-stop in davinci like you did in this vid? Is there a setting to see what exposure you have to set it to to equal a certain stop?

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks so much! Map your HDR wheels to your color space and gamma, and your global wheel will behave photographically!

  • @furkonige
    @furkonige 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing, thank you so much and happy 2024, cheers!

  • @clemensjurk_dop
    @clemensjurk_dop 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome insights :) thanks so much. Greetings from Berlin

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you! greetings, need to make my way to Berlin some time. I have not been there

  • @TylerEdwards
    @TylerEdwards 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    loved this

  • @xiiiconcepts
    @xiiiconcepts 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I said it several months ago, and I’ll say it again, Blaine to the moon! Thanks for your insight and enthusiasm.

  • @twooneonethreecreatives192
    @twooneonethreecreatives192 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video Blaine! Always cool to see people truely popping film next to digital. I have to say, I may be one of the few people, but I definitely like the digital result more. I have been lucky in my career to light quite a few music videos that shot on 16mm and the occasional 35mm and I have always been left a bit underwhelmed by the final product. Maybe it is just the buzz of shooting film that gets my hopes up. It is cool to see where the strengths of both Film and Digital sit and how to utilise them in different ways.
    Peace! Great work mate!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks so much! You have more experience with film than I, so it’s interesting hearing your take. I personally switch my eq up every year or so. My style evolves more slowly, but I’ll shoot anamorphic for a year and then move to spherical until I miss anamorphic. Now I am very interested in film. Alexa is my number 1, but I am definitely enjoying those film scans.

    • @RavikantRai21490
      @RavikantRai21490 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Roger Deakins has also said on multiple occasions that he actually personally prefers digital. He will of course shoot film if the director wants it that way but still...And of course we don't even need to bring up the brilliance and beauty of his body of work on digital too, which is almost all of his films past 2011. I think in the world of youtube, the most important aspect of this work is lost on a lot of people. Which is, story as well as good cinematography for the visual aspect of doing justice to that story. And those parts are independent of camera.

  • @robchado
    @robchado 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Such a dope video. I say do more Audiio sponsors and just shoot your YT videos exclusively on film.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂 let me run that by them

  • @nickbradyfilms
    @nickbradyfilms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The goat is back

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      When you back in bk bro!

    • @nickbradyfilms
      @nickbradyfilms 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 tomorrow 😎

  • @jc-px8ox
    @jc-px8ox 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I swear your channel's gonna blow up soon.
    I was here before the bang!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ☺️☺️ haha I’m feelin it. Got some fun stuff on the way.

  • @allen_bernardo_jr
    @allen_bernardo_jr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's some crazy latitude with the color grading and everything😮Even though the camera itself is top tier of course which helps, the quality of your cinematography is 👏👏

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks so much! The latitude is really great, on both!

  • @DavidWagelmans
    @DavidWagelmans 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved it 😊

  • @fernandocuello9853
    @fernandocuello9853 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great video! Very much to the point, thank you! One suggestion for this type of videos where quality matters a lot: maybe upload to TH-cam in 8K? The additional bitrate of the higher resolution (even if upscaled) would probably show less artifacts and more detail in, say, the shadows you were inspecting, making it easier for us to follow.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh well now I know I have to do some tests today! The compression is a lot on TH-cam even in 4k. If 8k is an improvement I will definitely do it. I’ll first try and render this one to 8k. Stand by.

  • @zachhaayema4481
    @zachhaayema4481 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All the shots of NYC's skyline in this video look straight out of Succession, which I believe was shot on the same film stock you chose here. TBH when I first watched the show I had just assumed it was Alexa Mini, and I think this video just shows how similar the Alexa can look to something shot on film. I think where the "film look" really stands out the most in modern use is interior low light tungsten set ups, just something about the warmth of those scenes that film still renders somewhat uniquely.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love succession. A little while back I was doing a lens test and they were prepping cameras for succession. Almost asked them if I could join. Anyways, yes the Alexa is the best. You can make it look like anything, it’s great to work with, and I love it. I also love film and have some more I will be sharing here with different stocks and different scenes with different lighting. I am excited.

  • @SaintProductions1
    @SaintProductions1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love your channel.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank you. that means a lot 😁

  • @cleverghostchili
    @cleverghostchili 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks audiio

  • @DiLeggeBrothers
    @DiLeggeBrothers 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would love to see a deep dive into some other gauges of film. Specifically super 16!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ll do it just for you.

  • @hactrain
    @hactrain 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just gonna be siting on the couch waiting to see a commercial on TV in 3:2 with film perfs

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Haha you may be sitting there for a while…

  • @iammilesq
    @iammilesq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    all hail big daddy blaine
    Also - this video goes way too hard. Window shot on the bed comparison is wild; not surprised as the shadow/highlight detail recovery between the two. Still great to see it in action though. You're wife is a champ for being in all these videos.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hahah thank you Miles! have so many more tests to post. can't wait.

  • @atjeremy
    @atjeremy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love this channel.

  • @TheJairoObando
    @TheJairoObando 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Killer as always dude, if you ever give peeps an opportunity to shadow you or help out with anything I'd love to be there, born and raised in NYC so I'm here whenever.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      awesome! good to know. may need some help with some stuff coming up

  • @MateoToro
    @MateoToro 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    this video couldn't have dropped at a better time my goal for next year is to finally shoot on film!!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers to you reaching that goal!

  • @KleberEleven
    @KleberEleven 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:00 "Doing cool things and making cool videos..." You said it perfectly man!
    Sharing knowledge in the coolest way!
    Thanks!!!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hey thanks so much! more to come!

  • @jppj4067
    @jppj4067 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Great video!! Just one question, why didn't you use the camera raw settings on the Alexa footage, especially when it came to exposure, highlight and shadows recovery?

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! Didn’t want to cheat!

    • @robert-gille
      @robert-gille 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@BlaineWestropp1 How is that cheating? Isn't that exactly the right tool, you would normally use?

    • @TechnoBabble
      @TechnoBabble 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@robert-gille Lol, seriously. "I didn't want to cheat so I handicapped one option".

  • @VIPAH
    @VIPAH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've only ever shot Kodak colour and monochrome on the Arriflex 16mm, and this comparison between ArricamLT and Alexa MiniLF was interesting to see, especially during the colour grade, I've been tempted to use a film grain scan from Kodak stock as the LUT, to try and mimic that film look on the digital sensor.(Canon R5C and Alexa Plus4:3) But at the same time I can't afford to shoot a short film on film these days, telecine processing etc.
    2 perf 2.39:1 as you said would be cheaper to shoot on than 4 perf. Thanks for explaining the costs to me. Really helpful man.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks. I am building some looks for digital that you may like that are based on the scans shown in this video, and more. Stay tuned!

    • @VIPAH
      @VIPAH 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 I look forward to seeing them!

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too :)

  • @alexander_mejia
    @alexander_mejia 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for doing this expensive test. I would love to see an ungraded clip available for download to test the dynamic range on an HDR display. I’ve completely moved away from SDR and it’s really liberating when you have cameras that have the range.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can give you a frame. you in the discord?

  • @hendrikraech
    @hendrikraech 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing!

  • @slg_sasha
    @slg_sasha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your video

  • @hugomalpeyre
    @hugomalpeyre 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Film + haircut = Gold Bagel 🎉🎉🎉

  • @ChoaYeon
    @ChoaYeon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The dynamic and sharpness is really good on the Alexia but for some reason the film looks even more sharp like the subject is 3D. It’s insane! Thank for this deep dive comparison

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey thanks! It really does look nice. You can get both formats looking very nice, and match them up very well. Everything we saw here was very very quick.. not even grading, most just correcting/adjusting. Going to get deeper into this in some videos coming up!

    • @ChoaYeon
      @ChoaYeon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 can’t wait to see the deep dive into this. It’s kind of mind blowing.

  • @carljuztine3328
    @carljuztine3328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    that ultrawide sequence in the intro made me think of Fallen Angels. cool man

  • @brown2840
    @brown2840 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    lovely

  • @kennyadvocat
    @kennyadvocat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video. Law and order shot on film in nyc all the way through season 12. Not too long ago really. Most people have seen film videos even if they don't know it. Walking dead used 16mm film. Love the shots and grading you did. =)

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks! Didn’t realize walking dead shot on 16! Wonder how many million feet they have gone through!

  • @he.smile_
    @he.smile_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I heavily recommend watching Steve Yedlin's Display Prep Demo for his take on the Film vs Digital debate! Spoiler alert : the capture medium isn't really what makes the final look. 👀

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh I know. Seen it. You can match anything to anything. There is one element of… it’s easy to make this look good, and that is what I like. I like it while shooting and I like it when in post!

    • @he.smile_
      @he.smile_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 yeah absolutely! And the focus and dedication film brings out of the DP (and crew) on set is unmatched

  • @thisisfilmatic
    @thisisfilmatic 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    loved the video. you should try to match the grain texture on the mini lf. Thanks for doing the test, helps me understand the pricing on it as well. Not sure if I can justify it in this market, even with my high end clients, but I have somethign to cmpare. , and it makes me happy that the MINI LF is such a beast.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The LF is definitely a beast. It’s my favorite camera by far! I definitely do love the film too though!

  • @jamesbridges1107
    @jamesbridges1107 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You do totally know, if you have shot film before and used a light meter...Nice test, great to see people shooting film.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      of course.. but there still is that little wait. and thank you!

    • @jamesbridges1107
      @jamesbridges1107 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 you know. The wait never bothered me-it’s all we knew. What always bothered me was the processing-were was it in the “soup”, the beginning? The end? Was the overnight person hungover? Did the flash my film? You are correct about hearing $$$$ running through the gate. Film forces you to plan, shot what you need, have confidence in the process. If you shoot what you need and what was agreed upon, your edit should be simple and rather quick. The time saved in post will more than cover the cost of stock, processing, and transfer.

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      agreed. I also wonder about the different processing as you mentioned. I am shooting on film again in a week or so and want to have it scanned at multiple facilities to check out the differences.

  • @mittaw
    @mittaw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a world-class video! Finally an in-depth comparison to film and the Alexa sensor. I have one question: When you metered the sky inside the apartment you metered the sky four stops over. But what did you do on the streets? Also, meter the sky four stops over?

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      thank you! when inside I metered the sky, then shot 4 over the sky. outside I shot closer to the meter, but at least a stop over. reason for this is bc I was walking around and wanted to be safer.

    • @mittaw
      @mittaw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@BlaineWestropp1ahh I understand! The footage looks amazing man! thanks I appreciate it!! ❤

  • @alektimmer
    @alektimmer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Let me get my popcorn ready...

  • @carterburkhart4336
    @carterburkhart4336 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great test! As you said, the roll off of 35mm stocks cannot be beaten

  • @LettersFromTheEditor
    @LettersFromTheEditor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude you’re a legend. Such a cool comparison. Film just has such a unique look and range. Digital is quite a bit more accessible though. 😂

    • @BlaineWestropp1
      @BlaineWestropp1  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey thanks so much! As with anything, there are perfect scenarios for either option. I like the process of film, and the image, but modern digital is so good that you can get great results. The one thing is.. looking at the footage straight from the film is something special.

    • @LettersFromTheEditor
      @LettersFromTheEditor 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BlaineWestropp1 absolutely. The journey of shooting film is far more rewarding. And in a way almost like a piece of history, since it’s so much rarer these days.

  • @8KHDRVideoBySittipong
    @8KHDRVideoBySittipong 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice