He needs to do more learning himself - he seams a bit lost in his far left ideology. No need to reach Ukrainians victimhood or compare us to native Americans. In our colonial story it’s is who are civilized modern nation being invaded, colonized and suppressed by a horde of primitive, uneducated violent savages , not the other way around . Theres nothing wrong with our European values - they are what entire population of our planet , even those who don’t share our values - owes its higher than ever level of prosperity and security to .
also there are thousands of Ukrainian civilians captured on occupied territories and still kept in russian penitentiary system without any trails and court orders or even judicial or humanitarian rights ... russian filtration camps not so much different from german WW2 concentration camps
even worse than ww2 german camps bcuz no rules and anything goes in the concentration camps in Donetsk/Luhansk and the south. And intentional with torture etc.
this is perfect for shedding light on understanding more broadly how this attack on Ukraine works and gives people more power to fight the invaders on all fronts.
The attack on Ukraine is from within Ukraine thanks to bankers from America, your very confused about reality, how can you blindly believe everything the mass media tells you especially since it’s all owned by the same handful of demons
Are you that surprised? The Holodomor was jewish controlled genocide, kaganovich (jew) lead the mass starvation of tens of millions of Ukrainians, approved by stalin (jew), I wonder why Hollywood never makes any movies about this? By the way this Stanley guy changed his name, and you’ll never guess what group he belongs to
Stanley makes a great point about who Ukraine should be aligning itself with, long term. If he can get his ideas through to those making policy, Ukraine could become a very influential player on the world stage. I hope he can do it.
! Zelensky and the Pentagon hybrid work for the Kremlin . Bought, “competent” bureaucrats, creating problems where there are none, are destroying developed countries from within. Stop the hybrid trade with Russia and you will stop the genocide of Ukrainians and Ukraine.
Jason is wonderful. I take some issue with the moderator though. By saying that Jason is injecting these ideas is to imply that Ukrainians are unaware of parallel circumstances in the world. There is also lots of discussion about Russian colonialism- See Ukrainian Spaces Podcast and the work of Maksym Eristavi.
Loved this interview! I've been wondering about what might happen with Ukraine making sense of their post-war identity. I have also been wondering about our current USA role, would we have been so slow-paced sending resources like F-16s if this were the Holocaust taking place and we could've done something at that moment in time.
Bidens adm (Burns etc) wants russia not to loose so they send F16 to scrap yard instead of Ukraine to win ... "second track" negotiations with useful russian agents in US without Ukraine must be stopped
The US absolutly "did something at that time". Without US entering the war, the Allies woulhave lost the war and even.more jews and other people would have been killed.
Stanley Family has stood for humanity in America since immigrant Thomas, a Quaker founded a meeting, Cedar Creek in Virginia circa 1707, that educated Patrick Henry, Dolly Madison and freed 200 slaves in 1775 and outlawed all Quakers from owning slaves thereafter.
I really hope you are reading all this Christiane Amanpour, you are better than keep a one sided approach. Please we all need to wake up help get rid of all this evil going on.
I very much appreciate Jason Stanley and his work on fascism (yes, he absolutely addresses the fascism here in the U.S., to respond to previous comments). However, I'm having a little bit of a reaction. I feel concerned about him going to Ukraine to influence how Ukrainians come to understand what's happening to them and their country. He has an agenda--albeit, well-intentioned-- for them to make meaning of their experience in a particular way. It feels a bit authoritarian, actually, in the academic sense. He thinks it's in their favor to see themselves as "colonized" like Africans and Indigenous people in other parts of the world. He says they're "losing allies" by continuing to identify and align themselves with Europe. He wants them to focus more on how they are victims of genocide. But I'm not sure if you can tell people how to make sense of their suffering? I understand his point, but again, it feels authoritarian. Also-- because anti-Black racism is in every corner of the globe, you're going to have a very hard time convincing a nation of pale-skinned people to align themselves with the oppression of Black people. It's unlikely to happen.
And focusing on victimhood is not a good way to think if you're fighting a war for survival. That's more priority if Ukraine survives and there's time for reflection in the future.
I think the Ukrainians are intelligent and enlightened enough to think for themselves and be open to different points of view. To be honest I think your post displayed a rather patronising attitude to Ukraine and Ukrainians....who are fighting for their democracy and freedoms.
Yep, as Ukrainians we are Europeans and proud of our heritage. As white Europeans we have been invaded , brutalized and enslaved ( actually sold at slave markets at a premium because we were white and most valuable slaves for that matter) for centuries by Asians from modern China ( then Golden Hord), North Africans, Arabs., Turks and all kinds of “ people of color”. We now fight and die got our European values, without your ‘quote marks’ professor Stanley . Out European values are: individual human freedom , dignity, rule of low , freedom of self- determination and self- expression, respect for other humans rights . We are not ashamed of our European heritage . We had democracy, elections, printed books, academic institutions, high percentage of literacy among population, public debate as early as 9th century before the Asian golden horde came crashing us with their inhuman, bacteria- like count of their armies .
@@Myndirthank god we are not going to be easily influenced by a victimhood priest or few … you can’t afford to play a victim when you face an actual, real, not pretend oppression and risk of physical annihilation
We were a colony for a brief time, and regardless we colonized this land over centuries. We liberated ourselves from the British Empire in the revolutionary war, but continued our own colonial projects across America, at home and abroad.
It isn't just that Ukraine identifies as part of Europe that has African nations siding with Russia. Africa needs grain from Russia and Ukraine. Since it can't get grain from Ukraine now, it has to get it from Russia. No matter that Russia has been blocking the export of Ukrainian grain. Hunger can have a powerful influence on foreign policy and make partners in need.
Nationalist Vision? So it’s a threat to identify with your ancestors and heritage? Pathetic, Ukraine includes many other nationalities including Crimean Tartars, for one. How ignorant.
I've seen good reviews and enthusiasm from Ukrainians about his course on fascism. But hearing this interview was quite disappointing. Seems like Mr. Stanley has much more to learn still, if he brings up Russian tropes of "oppression of Russian speakers"🤦♂
Um, Bandera didn't "massacre Jews", that's just Soviet misinformation. He was a prisoner in Sachsenhausen from 1941-44. That's an easily googleable fact. Yes, he wanted to ally with Hitler in order to create a separate Ukrainian state, like the Slovak Republic that was established by Slovaks with the Reich's approval. But Germany didn't want that and instead imprisoned him.
I realize that before and during WWII, national groups were threatened and had to make alliances of necessity or desperation with parties that we and they may not like, including the Communists and the Nazis. I realize that Bandera's goal was to keep his people alive and form a Ukrainian state. However, Israeli sources believe that the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which Bandera led, killed thousands of Jews and Poles, including women and children, fighting alongside the Nazis against the Red Army. Bandera had a weak negotiating position, with the Nazis, who massacred Ukrainians along with Jews, but Bandera does seem to have fought with the Nazis and massacred Jews and Poles, until the Nazis double-crossed him.
15:28 OK but Ukraine isn't antisemetic today. Every nation has skeltons in their closet of past history. Yes the USA too, 'trail of tears' if you aren't aware. What we are doing now is what matters going forward. We can heal. We can evolve into a better place than where we are now. Or not, and continue blowing each other up. I'm a little conflicted on which way it'll go. Next five years... not looking good to me. I hope we survive it all.
every...single...time, ppl think it's not looking good at a very fraught moment in history, and then, at least in 20 century, good values/ppl prevailed for the most part, at least in the west. Only thru protecting the human rights of the Ukrainians will the west survive itself. It's very simple actually.
I was fascinated with this interview, but I really want to know why he never mentioned the Israeli government and their fascist, genocidal regime raining down on innocent Palestinians. Hari, I'd have thought you, of anyone, would have brought that FACT up! A&Co you disappoint on this.
Not really. Ukraine has been free for over 30 years.The world is just a little slow on the uptake. To Ukrainians russia is a diarrhea state that has no culture, only evil.
With the Russian invasion the chains have been severed. It will take multiple generations for Ukrainians to have any type of significant interactions (cultural or otherwise) with the Russians. The younger Ukrainian generation rejects most everything that is Russian which includes culture, language, music and especially identity. Come to think of it, so does most of the older generation, and I know this because I am a Ukrainian. Glory to the Ukrainian People !
"They don't like the critiques, they say it reminds them of Marxist, and in this part of the world Marx is considered very toxic." Hmmm. An elite American Academic being labeled a Marxist, say it ain't so! LOL Says the quiet part out loud, then laughs it off like it's a quirky comparison from people who actually lived under the ideology but are too dim to really understand it.
There is no agreed upon definition of what Marxism is. In fact, Engels once wrote in a letter that Marx had said that he was not a Marxist; this was in response to his theories being distorted and used in ways that he disagreed with. For this reason, labelling the policies of the former USSR as "Marxist" is, in my view, rather inappropriate. I don't know whether Stanley pointed this out to his Ukrainian students, but it is worth keeping in mind.
NO, the frontlines were the east of course which is where Nance was as one of the highest level intell operatives in the Uks foreign legion, u uninformed person!@@aaronajb8983
You should listen the interview to laureate economist Jeffrey Sachs, by Tucker Carlson, and then you’ll speak with knowledge of what is happening in Ukraine.
Nah. His opinions all seem pre-formed. For me, he would be a good go-to should I need a 'Professor' to justify my own ideas about 'Imperialism', 'Fascism', 'Colonialism' and probably 'Democracy' as well: they are all abstract nouns - little bags that you fill with your own pre-formed ideas and then spend hours (or a lifetime) talking past your interlocuters who use the same words but which have, in their view different and more/less nuanced understanding or contextual relevance, so any opportunity for true understanding just withers on the vine. Even politics has its marketing jargon and its gurus and armchair warriors who earn a living from pontificating about the lived experience of others. Just sayin'.
Just sayin' ...yeah. Can you argue as well as him ? Have you read his book on fascism? Do you denigrate Timothy Snyder and Stephen Kotkin too? Are there any published books by you I should read?
His focus is fascism-he has covered the American kind. His wife was deeply involved in the 1619 project, I don't think he shies away from being critical of the US.
Today we have powerful technologies, chemical, biological, nanotech, molecular engineering, protein folding, that you can create weapons that target very specific cohorts of people. All the way down to targeting one person at a time or entire groups based on any characteristic filters. The human genome exploited as a weapon of war. This is our world. Sigh. No wonder the aliens haven't shown themselves. We are a disturbing species.
actually we have NONE of those military application abilities yet from what i can tell (and i have friends in those fields). No the real threats are bad old barbaric sadistic harming and killing and attmping to defeat the will of an entire ppl like Ru is trying to do against Ukr. RU has to be contained by the west, or modern life ends as we know it
Nationalists/Nazis who like skulls and swastikas exist on both sides, but only one of these countries has actually fallen into fascism and it is not Ukraine.
At this point unconditional surrender is the only practical solution for Ukraine . Hitler's Germany also refused to admit defeat until Hitler killed himself, then Keitel signed unconditional surrender.
Russia doesn't want an unconditional surrender. They had signed a peace treaty for an unaligned Dombas and Crimea. In April, Zelensky and Russia had agreed to a ceasefire. Boris Johnson told Zelensky that the West would not support him if he went ahead with the ceasefire.
My mother was born in Ukraine, near Odessa. I want to see the Ukrainian-Russian conflict resolved with the fewest deaths possible. I've heard numbers for Ukrainian deaths anywhere between 10,000 and 100,000, and I am just as pained by the Russian deaths. As Jeffrey Sachs, John Mearsheimer and others have reported from reliable sources, Zelensky had agreed to a ceasefore in April, but Boris Johnson, with the support of the US and other Western nations, told Zelensky that they would not support him if he went forward with the ceasefire. The US in particular is forcing the Ukraine into a proxy war with Russia. Most of what we see in the media today is classic wartime propaganda. It's the same nationalistic cheerleading that we saw to justify the war in Vietnam and Iraq. The New York Times has torn out the pages on "Fairness and balance" from its style book. I'm horrified at the deaths, at our cold-war militaristic State Department, at the collaboration of the news media, and at the people here naive enough to believe this. Thanks to you who are fighting all wars.
on its face, the idea that Zelenskyy had agreed to a ceasefire in April of last yr or even this yr, is nonsensical. But even if he was prepared to do so, nothing the west could say or do could be seen as 'not supporting' Ukr in such a ceasefire, so it just makes less than zero sense! You are not thinking straight and Sachs btw cannot think straight.
He’s comparing Ukrainians to Africans or native Americans while we actually were one of the first democracies and most developed nations in Europe at the time we got invaded by Mongolian horde and then colonized by miskowits who were the successors of the horde that was thousands of years behind our level of culture , social development. Those Moskovit savages stole our identity, named themselves “russia “ to pretend they have something to do with our ancestral heritage of Kyivan Rus and preceded to erasing us- the people of Kyivan Rus, out existence
And we're are only learning about your culture now bc of this hideous invasion. Your ancestors were practicing democracy while the rest of Europe were either serfs, or the monarchal who are NOT elected but usually inbred. Despite your very real internal challenges, the free world's people are so happy to have been introduced to such a lovely and contentious folk lol. May both serve you going forward. We LOVE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE. Thank you for your contributions to our culture, which I think had gotten a little stagnant of late. And hang on!! Just please DON'T GIVE UP 💙🧡😻 Be smarter than your President. And cmert putin before he can exhaust you 🔱
We are building a harmonious society based on the law for all, or a class society where everything is allowed to the class of aggressors. Balanced justice or biased bureaucracy? Are the Ten Commandments just for the Jewish people or for all mankind?
Thank you, Professor Stanley. I appreciate your contribution to Ukraine, as well as to my education and edification. 🙏
So good to see a philosopher standing up for Ukraine. He's exactly right about Putin.
@googlenazicompany5935 How about a specific link. using the word "nazi" in your call sign doesn't exactly reassure me that you are on the level.
that's bcuz he's not on this level at least Sachs is a russian apologist literally. @@earthjustice01
Thankfully there are people like Jason Stanley living in this world, teaching and learning. ❤❤❤
yes a nasally propagandist neocon who is carrying water for a completely corrupt ukrainian government.
Show me a clip where he complains about the slow moving genocide that is happening in Israel and I will agree.
He is an anti-Soviet, and therefore Russophobic, propagandist.
false comparisons which are defeatist & fundamentally anti-human and nihilist! @@fredfrond6148
He needs to do more learning himself - he seams a bit lost in his far left ideology. No need to reach Ukrainians victimhood or compare us to native Americans. In our colonial story it’s is who are civilized modern nation being invaded, colonized and suppressed by a horde of primitive, uneducated violent savages , not the other way around . Theres nothing wrong with our European values - they are what entire population of our planet , even those who don’t share our values - owes its higher than ever level of prosperity and security to .
I so respect Jason and all his work
He's sending you off to die in an American proxy war against Russia (those of you who are Ukranian).
Great interview, Hari! This was, indeed, a very appropriate interview for the here and the now.
By hybrid trading with Russia, Europe and the United States are killing Ukrainians and destroying Ukraine.
Love professor Stanley. Has been on point regarding fascism for a decade
also there are thousands of Ukrainian civilians captured on occupied territories and still kept in russian penitentiary system without any trails and court orders or even judicial or humanitarian rights ... russian filtration camps not so much different from german WW2 concentration camps
That point is so important not to miss.
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Guantanamo Bay, where individuals were held indefinitely, without charge, while simultaneously being tortured by the CIA.
even worse than ww2 german camps bcuz no rules and anything goes in the concentration camps in Donetsk/Luhansk and the south. And intentional with torture etc.
this is perfect for shedding light on understanding more broadly how this attack on Ukraine works and gives people more power to fight the invaders on all fronts.
The attack on Ukraine is from within Ukraine thanks to bankers from America, your very confused about reality, how can you blindly believe everything the mass media tells you especially since it’s all owned by the same handful of demons
All those poor kids. Such suffering. Awful.
More than awful. Putin and a co conspirator has been indicted by the International Criminal iCourt in the Hague for a war crime.
Thank you for calling it what it is. This is Russian Genocide of Ukraine, not the "Ukrainian War".
I’m sick of western media repeating this “Ukrainian war” bs - we don’t even have crime here in Ukraine, not speaking of war
Thank you for the interview! 💙 💛
I am very surprised that Stanley did not refer to the genocide of Holodomor.
Are you that surprised? The Holodomor was jewish controlled genocide, kaganovich (jew) lead the mass starvation of tens of millions of Ukrainians, approved by stalin (jew), I wonder why Hollywood never makes any movies about this? By the way this Stanley guy changed his name, and you’ll never guess what group he belongs to
He’s a Communist (literally, he basically has said so), so he doesn’t want to mention Communist crimes.
That's what I said totally ignored
People like Jason Stanley are a gift to humanity. ❤
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I always learn so much from Jason Stanley ❤
Stanley makes a great point about who Ukraine should be aligning itself with, long term. If he can get his ideas through to those making policy, Ukraine could become a very influential player on the world stage. I hope he can do it.
Wow. That was excellent.
Brilliant interview.
Many thanks Professor Jason Stanley!
Thank you so much for this interesting and informative interview. Please look up how to pronounce Ukraine in English and Ukrainian.
! Zelensky and the Pentagon hybrid work for the Kremlin . Bought, “competent” bureaucrats, creating problems where there are none, are destroying developed countries from within. Stop the hybrid trade with Russia and you will stop the genocide of Ukrainians and Ukraine.
I disagree with Stanley's approach...bringing a philosophic discussion to a damn gunfight!!!
Jason is wonderful. I take some issue with the moderator though.
By saying that Jason is injecting these ideas is to imply that Ukrainians are unaware of parallel circumstances in the world.
There is also lots of discussion about Russian colonialism- See Ukrainian Spaces Podcast and the work of Maksym Eristavi.
Bravo❤❤
Ukraine had been the "breadbasket" for Soviet society. Ukraine kept starving while supplying "mother Russia"...
this was a past injustice.
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Loved this interview! I've been wondering about what might happen with Ukraine making sense of their post-war identity. I have also been wondering about our current USA role, would we have been so slow-paced sending resources like F-16s if this were the Holocaust taking place and we could've done something at that moment in time.
Bidens adm (Burns etc) wants russia not to loose so they send F16 to scrap yard instead of Ukraine to win ... "second track" negotiations with useful russian agents in US without Ukraine must be stopped
The US absolutly "did something at that time". Without US entering the war, the Allies woulhave lost the war and even.more jews and other people would have been killed.
Americans are clueless about Ukraine. Ukrainians do not need ignorant people telling them what their identity is. They know exactly who they are.
@@maryfinn3663 Yes indeed, I am clueless.
Stanley Family has stood for humanity in America since immigrant Thomas, a Quaker founded a meeting, Cedar Creek in Virginia circa 1707, that educated Patrick Henry, Dolly Madison and freed 200 slaves in 1775 and outlawed all Quakers from owning slaves thereafter.
I really hope you are reading all this Christiane Amanpour, you are better than keep a one sided approach. Please we all need to wake up help get rid of all this evil going on.
nothing one sided about this show's approach!
he thinks ukraine is a "healthy democracy"?! and he's supposed to be an expert on propaganda? what a joke.
brilliant!
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE RUSSIA MOST FASCIST STATE🇺🇸🇺🇦🇺🇸🇺🇦❤❤❤
I'm positive Israel is in there for the tie!
I'm positive All the moslem country's are way ahead of Israel
I very much appreciate Jason Stanley and his work on fascism (yes, he absolutely addresses the fascism here in the U.S., to respond to previous comments). However, I'm having a little bit of a reaction. I feel concerned about him going to Ukraine to influence how Ukrainians come to understand what's happening to them and their country. He has an agenda--albeit, well-intentioned-- for them to make meaning of their experience in a particular way. It feels a bit authoritarian, actually, in the academic sense. He thinks it's in their favor to see themselves as "colonized" like Africans and Indigenous people in other parts of the world. He says they're "losing allies" by continuing to identify and align themselves with Europe. He wants them to focus more on how they are victims of genocide. But I'm not sure if you can tell people how to make sense of their suffering? I understand his point, but again, it feels authoritarian.
Also-- because anti-Black racism is in every corner of the globe, you're going to have a very hard time convincing a nation of pale-skinned people to align themselves with the oppression of Black people. It's unlikely to happen.
Yes. However well-intentioned he may be, what he is doing seems arrogant, youthful arrogance.
And focusing on victimhood is not a good way to think if you're fighting a war for survival. That's more priority if Ukraine survives and there's time for reflection in the future.
I think the Ukrainians are intelligent and enlightened enough to think for themselves and be open to different points of view. To be honest I think your post
displayed a rather patronising attitude to Ukraine and Ukrainians....who are fighting for their democracy and freedoms.
Yep, as Ukrainians we are Europeans and proud of our heritage. As white Europeans we have been invaded , brutalized and enslaved ( actually sold at slave markets at a premium because we were white and most valuable slaves for that matter) for centuries by Asians from modern China ( then Golden Hord), North Africans, Arabs., Turks and all kinds of “ people of color”. We now fight and die got our European values, without your ‘quote marks’ professor Stanley . Out European values are: individual human freedom , dignity, rule of low , freedom of self- determination and self- expression, respect for other humans rights . We are not ashamed of our European heritage . We had democracy, elections, printed books, academic institutions, high percentage of literacy among population, public debate as early as 9th century before the Asian golden horde came crashing us with their inhuman, bacteria- like count of their armies .
@@Myndirthank god we are not going to be easily influenced by a victimhood priest or few … you can’t afford to play a victim when you face an actual, real, not pretend oppression and risk of physical annihilation
Jason Stanley, do you feel colonized? Don't forget that America was just a colony not that long ago.
We were a colony for a brief time, and regardless we colonized this land over centuries. We liberated ourselves from the British Empire in the revolutionary war, but continued our own colonial projects across America, at home and abroad.
It isn't just that Ukraine identifies as part of Europe that has African nations siding with Russia. Africa needs grain from Russia and Ukraine. Since it can't get grain from Ukraine now, it has to get it from Russia. No matter that Russia has been blocking the export of Ukrainian grain. Hunger can have a powerful influence on foreign policy and make partners in need.
wow ...........Are how did these people keep it backwards for SO LONG....oh Yale...the spook school ...I get it
Nationalist Vision? So it’s a threat to identify with your ancestors and heritage?
Pathetic, Ukraine includes many other nationalities including Crimean Tartars, for one.
How ignorant.
I've seen good reviews and enthusiasm from Ukrainians about his course on fascism. But hearing this interview was quite disappointing. Seems like Mr. Stanley has much more to learn still, if he brings up Russian tropes of "oppression of Russian speakers"🤦♂
Um, Bandera didn't "massacre Jews", that's just Soviet misinformation. He was a prisoner in Sachsenhausen from 1941-44. That's an easily googleable fact. Yes, he wanted to ally with Hitler in order to create a separate Ukrainian state, like the Slovak Republic that was established by Slovaks with the Reich's approval. But Germany didn't want that and instead imprisoned him.
I realize that before and during WWII, national groups were threatened and had to make alliances of necessity or desperation with parties that we and they may not like, including the Communists and the Nazis. I realize that Bandera's goal was to keep his people alive and form a Ukrainian state. However, Israeli sources believe that the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which Bandera led, killed thousands of Jews and Poles, including women and children, fighting alongside the Nazis against the Red Army. Bandera had a weak negotiating position, with the Nazis, who massacred Ukrainians along with Jews, but Bandera does seem to have fought with the Nazis and massacred Jews and Poles, until the Nazis double-crossed him.
15:28 OK but Ukraine isn't antisemetic today. Every nation has skeltons in their closet of past history. Yes the USA too, 'trail of tears' if you aren't aware. What we are doing now is what matters going forward. We can heal. We can evolve into a better place than where we are now. Or not, and continue blowing each other up. I'm a little conflicted on which way it'll go. Next five years... not looking good to me. I hope we survive it all.
every...single...time, ppl think it's not looking good at a very fraught moment in history, and then, at least in 20 century, good values/ppl prevailed for the most part, at least in the west. Only thru protecting the human rights of the Ukrainians will the west survive itself. It's very simple actually.
I was fascinated with this interview, but I really want to know why he never mentioned the Israeli government and their fascist, genocidal regime raining down on innocent Palestinians.
Hari, I'd have thought you, of anyone, would have brought that FACT up!
A&Co you disappoint on this.
Ukraine has been tied to Russia for at least 300 years. It will take much time, effort, blood & gold to sever the chains.
Not really. Ukraine has been free for over 30 years.The world is just a little slow on the uptake. To Ukrainians russia is a diarrhea state that has no culture, only evil.
With the Russian invasion the chains have been severed. It will take multiple generations for Ukrainians to have any type of significant interactions (cultural or otherwise) with the Russians. The younger Ukrainian generation rejects most everything that is Russian which includes culture, language, music and especially identity. Come to think of it, so does most of the older generation, and I know this because I am a Ukrainian. Glory to the Ukrainian People !
"They don't like the critiques, they say it reminds them of Marxist, and in this part of the world Marx is considered very toxic." Hmmm. An elite American Academic being labeled a Marxist, say it ain't so! LOL Says the quiet part out loud, then laughs it off like it's a quirky comparison from people who actually lived under the ideology but are too dim to really understand it.
There is no agreed upon definition of what Marxism is. In fact, Engels once wrote in a letter that Marx had said that he was not a Marxist; this was in response to his theories being distorted and used in ways that he disagreed with.
For this reason, labelling the policies of the former USSR as "Marxist" is, in my view, rather inappropriate. I don't know whether Stanley pointed this out to his Ukrainian students, but it is worth keeping in mind.
I'll stick with Malcolm Nance and his experience and expertise... He was there side by side with Ukraine... Actual boots on the ground. 🤦🏻♀️🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
New York Times June 24 2023….Stolen Valor : The US Volunteers in Ukraine Who Lie, Waste, and Bicker….Malcolm Nance outed by NY Times.
Malcome nance isn’t on the frontlines isn’t in the Donbas, and was reporting from liviv; it’s on the other side of the country.
@@aaronajb8983he was on the frontlines earlier in the war
@@maryfinn3663 on the other side of the country.
NO, the frontlines were the east of course which is where Nance was as one of the highest level intell operatives in the Uks foreign legion, u uninformed person!@@aaronajb8983
You should listen the interview to laureate economist Jeffrey Sachs, by Tucker Carlson, and then you’ll speak with knowledge of what is happening in Ukraine.
Nah. His opinions all seem pre-formed. For me, he would be a good go-to should I need a 'Professor' to justify my own ideas about 'Imperialism', 'Fascism', 'Colonialism' and probably 'Democracy' as well: they are all abstract nouns - little bags that you fill with your own pre-formed ideas and then spend hours (or a lifetime) talking past your interlocuters who use the same words but which have, in their view different and more/less nuanced understanding or contextual relevance, so any opportunity for true understanding just withers on the vine. Even politics has its marketing jargon and its gurus and armchair warriors who earn a living from pontificating about the lived experience of others. Just sayin'.
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Just sayin' ...yeah. Can you argue as well as him ? Have you read his book on fascism? Do you denigrate Timothy Snyder and Stephen Kotkin too? Are there any published books by you I should read?
I wonder if he also covers American imperialism? He won’t last long.
His focus is fascism-he has covered the American kind. His wife was deeply involved in the 1619 project, I don't think he shies away from being critical of the US.
Among other things, he has addressed the illegal invasion of Iraq and the CIA Torture Program.
I wonder where his research and travel money comes from.
@@kevinjenner9502Yes, he mentioned it.
like most open transparent kind & liberal minded folks,. he's not a grifter and is transparent about his own income. @@norman_5623
you misspelled US/NATO proxy war
They need help. Why aren’t they getting it?
because ukraine is vile culture that can fight their own battles.
…chickenshit politics !….
I don’t understand what the person is saying. Totally unclear.
*watches reruns of Ellen instead.
then u probably have no grounding in basic knowledge of any type. e.g. current affairs and history?~!
Yeah, basically, white man bad and everyone from Adam n Eve is a Fascist
Yet no one is doing anything close to stop this war!
Why stop war when the leaders are getting FILTHY RICH
Today we have powerful technologies, chemical, biological, nanotech, molecular engineering, protein folding, that you can create weapons that target very specific cohorts of people. All the way down to targeting one person at a time or entire groups based on any characteristic filters. The human genome exploited as a weapon of war. This is our world. Sigh. No wonder the aliens haven't shown themselves. We are a disturbing species.
actually we have NONE of those military application abilities yet from what i can tell (and i have friends in those fields). No the real threats are bad old barbaric sadistic harming and killing and attmping to defeat the will of an entire ppl like Ru is trying to do against Ukr. RU has to be contained by the west, or modern life ends as we know it
If the west trys to contain RU they will Nuke the West, killing 1/3 of all life on the planet because the West will use their's on Ru n Ch
It's called mutual Destruction
Fascism is on both sides this guy is lying.
Nationalists/Nazis who like skulls and swastikas exist on both sides, but only one of these countries has actually fallen into fascism and it is not Ukraine.
Puh leese
Too many words, later please provide the truncated summary. Brief us please!
Tldr: ruzzia is a fascist, imperialist invader.
You're welcome.
At this point unconditional surrender is the only practical solution for Ukraine . Hitler's Germany also refused to admit defeat until Hitler killed himself, then Keitel signed unconditional surrender.
Russia doesn't want an unconditional surrender. They had signed a peace treaty for an unaligned Dombas and Crimea. In April, Zelensky and Russia had agreed to a ceasefire. Boris Johnson told Zelensky that the West would not support him if he went ahead with the ceasefire.
At this point, clown-posts like yours are the only practical solution for imperialist invaders.
@@norman_5623more krembot propaganda
@@jacqdanielesMore US State Department libel to ignore inconvenient facts.
@@norman_5623 ok then, cite your sources.
My mother was born in Ukraine, near Odessa. I want to see the Ukrainian-Russian conflict resolved with the fewest deaths possible. I've heard numbers for Ukrainian deaths anywhere between 10,000 and 100,000, and I am just as pained by the Russian deaths. As Jeffrey Sachs, John Mearsheimer and others have reported from reliable sources, Zelensky had agreed to a ceasefore in April, but Boris Johnson, with the support of the US and other Western nations, told Zelensky that they would not support him if he went forward with the ceasefire. The US in particular is forcing the Ukraine into a proxy war with Russia. Most of what we see in the media today is classic wartime propaganda. It's the same nationalistic cheerleading that we saw to justify the war in Vietnam and Iraq. The New York Times has torn out the pages on "Fairness and balance" from its style book. I'm horrified at the deaths, at our cold-war militaristic State Department, at the collaboration of the news media, and at the people here naive enough to believe this. Thanks to you who are fighting all wars.
Funny how the invader never gets mentioned ...
@@jacqdanieles You mean the Ukrainian Nazis who invaded Donbas in 2014?
The delusion is strong in this one and facts seem to elude him or her .
Hello from Ukraine. Why don’t you go to your mothers land to make right conclusions?
on its face, the idea that Zelenskyy had agreed to a ceasefire in April of last yr or even this yr, is nonsensical. But even if he was prepared to do so, nothing the west could say or do could be seen as 'not supporting' Ukr in such a ceasefire, so it just makes less than zero sense! You are not thinking straight and Sachs btw cannot think straight.
Nicee..
A genocide is also wayy overdue since history of humanity btw.:
Woman
Why does it seem like there's millions of holocaust survivors?
He’s comparing Ukrainians to Africans or native Americans while we actually were one of the first democracies and most developed nations in Europe at the time we got invaded by Mongolian horde and then colonized by miskowits who were the successors of the horde that was thousands of years behind our level of culture , social development. Those Moskovit savages stole our identity, named themselves “russia “ to pretend they have something to do with our ancestral heritage of Kyivan Rus and preceded to erasing us- the people of Kyivan Rus, out existence
And we're are only learning about your culture now bc of this hideous invasion. Your ancestors were practicing democracy while the rest of Europe were either serfs, or the monarchal who are NOT elected but usually inbred. Despite your very real internal challenges, the free world's people are so happy to have been introduced to such a lovely and contentious folk lol. May both serve you going forward. We LOVE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE. Thank you for your contributions to our culture, which I think had gotten a little stagnant of late.
And hang on!! Just please DON'T GIVE UP 💙🧡😻 Be smarter than your President. And cmert putin before he can exhaust you 🔱
We are building a harmonious society based on the law for all, or a class society where everything is allowed to the class of aggressors. Balanced justice or biased bureaucracy? Are the Ten Commandments just for the Jewish people or for all mankind?
Z vs. Not 'Z';
For 💩🥫it's just that simple.