Library Chat #20: The Rise of Sunnī Kalām (3rd/4th Hijrī Centuries) | Shaykh Dr. Yasir Qadhi
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I've been missing these library chats immensely.
This is not true. Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim, a muhaddith, the greatest muhadith followed the school of Imam Ibn Kullab as mentioned by Imam Asqalani. As did Imam Zahiri who followed the circles of Imam Ibn Kullab
Where's the guy constantly complaining about no library chats? 😂. Hope he's happy
I'm right here 🤣
Theres loads of us saying that🤣🤣🤣🤣Alhamdulilah
I'm the real one 😀.And I'm extremely excited
A lot of us. Jazakallah Khaira :)
Kalam is bidah
I love library chats, you actually make me excited to learn. These things aren’t dry at all.
This is not true. Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim, a muhaddith, the greatest muhadith followed the school of Imam Ibn Kullab as mentioned by Imam Asqalani. As did Imam Zahiri who followed the circles of Imam Ibn Kullab
@Path of Sahaba lmao say that to the hanbalis who kept persecuting Imam Bukhari to such a point he kept asking Allah to Kill him and take him from this life 😭😭😂
Can't stress enough how important your lectures are to my iman and connection with my deen
Finally these are back! History of Islam just so fascinating! Please keep these library chats going! This is truly gem! ❤❤
This is not true. Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim, a muhaddith, the greatest muhadith followed the school of Imam Ibn Kullab as mentioned by Imam Asqalani. As did Imam Zahiri who followed the circles of Imam Ibn Kullab
May Allah reward his efforts and forgive him insha Allah. May Allah increase his eloquence. I said some things about the sheik may Allah forgive me and I ask his forgiveness if he finds time to read insha Allah. I commented his lectures of Gog and Magog. We have to respect the Ulumaa because they are the most beloved in the sight if Allah, so saying bad things will cause the anger if Allah.
These Library Chats are amazing to learn deep knowledge.
And it has an enormous effect on broadening the mind.
If these lessons would taught in all Islamic schools,
Then Muslim Ummah would be united again very easily Insha-ALLAH.
From the Ash’aris in the Netherlands, we send you salaam dr. Yasir.
Mashallah
Volgens jullie is hij een Taymi Mujassim lol hij exposed heel jullie Aqeedah
@@Firelord2nd u havent heard of the lecture and went straight to comment?
Salam from Indonesia
@@afei4989I did listen. Maybe 4 times again
This lecture is absolutely gold! jazakAllahu chayr sheikh. I love you!
A lot of this went over my head but I love the spirit of openness.
What do you mean "over your head"? May I know
I love this series.
FINALLY! I MISSED THIS SO MUCH! May Allah bless the shaykh.
Masha Allah Tabarak'Allah 👏 👍 💯 🤲
Jazak Allah khairan brother Dr.Yasir Qadhi..You are the best...Love you for the sake of Allah.
Man! I can't wait the next episode. This was a rollercoaster ride!
Al Hamdulillah. ❤️ Jazak allahul kheiran for continuing your library chat. May Allah reward you with jannatul firdaus for your efforts.
Amazing!! So important to understand the development.
Love you sheikh.
Love these Libray Chats.
So much I do not know, so wide is the world of Islam.
Alhamdulillah. I have been really waiting for these library chats. Please keep them coming
Masha Allah, Masha Allah, SHK Yasir, you are doing great. JAZAKALLAHU KHAIRAN.
Excellent video. Looking forward for more
Loving these
Mashallah. As always with the library chats on the topic of Islamic Theology and its history, a brilliant, nuanced summary.
There is very little on this topic for those who do not have access to Arabic or Academic works in English so truly grateful to Sheikh Yasir for taking the time to put these together.
Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza
Masha Allah may Allah reward you
I'm great full for the sheikh.
I think this is one the way to unites the Muslim, thought education it will help us to tolerate others and to understand there is human element or effort in all of the deferent groups of Islami
Alhamdulilah
missed these chats
I ❤ library chats
Can't wait for next library chat..
أحسنت احسنت أحسنت يا ابا عمار
Wallahi I’ve learned so much from you.
May Allah preserve you and keep you on the straight path.
Wallahi sheikh, you saved my life. Your videos and lectures motivated me to take this deen more seriously and to always keep learning.
Very beneficial and insightful for the situation today
Amazing 👏
Finally a library chat🥲🥲
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
Jazakallah Kheyr Sheikh Abu Amman MashaAllah very informative talk on the rift between Athari and Ashari and how this difference of opinion was influenced by the politics and society of that time.
Looking forward to more!
Great job. Brilliant.
اللهم بارك
ما شاء الله عليك يا شيخ
Jazakhallah khair
I wait for this series
Jazakumullah Khair, please more of Library chat, very beneficial and unbiased
Alhamdulillah.
Amazing explanatory video, keep up the great work; jzk
My best among all of Doctor's productions!!
missed you shaykh
beautiful ❤️❤️
Missed library chats… keep coming often sheikh.
This is not dry Sheikh, this kind of unbiased content on intraIslamic history is rare.
Finally, please don’t take long to do the next library chat
Interesting
Ya ustad please make these regular
I am binging this❤️❤️
Thanks a lot I really like this one. As someone who is studying the Ashari Aqeedah it is nice having something in English that I can further understand the context. If you could go into the Mu'tazilah that would be great. Next to no one covers them even though they are very important in understanding why some theological doctrines developed the way they did.
Interesting.
Sheikh, thanks eventually for uploading one
Salam aleykoum sheikh, please continue to teach us those periods.
We need to know eachothers more in the sunni trands.
You help us a lot and gîve us a lot of key answers to at last get rid of our sectarism mind.
Jazzak Allahou khayran.
I cannot wait for the next chat please please ustad
May allah reward the sheikh
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Alhamduleha....
How much we missed the library chats
This is the first time I couldnt grasp what you are talking about... The disclaimer is really necessary.
Its been a while. I can't wait.
God willing, this year you start your private platform. Perhaps on Patreon? There are many of us who will be willing to pay for that subscription. Please keep us updated on it, you mentioned it in your previous library chat.
I have emailed about this too and really would love to join a private paid learning platform.
If you're going to make paid content, please don't make it too expensive. The exchange rate between US dollar and my local currency is just too high.
@@Tk-ik2pp what is his email?
masha allah . alhamdulillah.you are one of the best sheikh i have ever came across .your research on aqeedah is excellent. insya Allah i hope you will continue with your library chat. pls continue with your good work on youtube. it will be benefical for our ummat. there will be people criticize you as they are jealous or envy. success is the best revenge. keep up the good work sheikh
The digital dawah is very poisonous you should choose very wisely, there are very little that have devotedly presenting the fact with knowledge like Yasir Qadhi may Allah accept his effort and reward him Jannah al firdos.
Man! Its been too long! Way toooooooo long! Jazakallah Sheikh. Next episode next week Inshaa Allah. 😉😁
I know nothing about "Kalam" but still tried to listen to Sheikhs talk. Seriously, it's true what Sheikh said before the talk that "if you don't know what Kalam is, stop this video".. I understand nothing.. I will watch some of his other talks.. Jazakallah..🙂
SHAYKH SHAYKH SHAYKH😂 PLZ PLZ plz plz plz plz (plz=please) do a library chat all on khurooj. May Allah SWT bless u Shaykh Yasir Qadhi
He has often spoken about this topic. Search through TH-cam.
For example:
th-cam.com/video/J7P57EKLwzo/w-d-xo.html
@@simpleviewer7445 JazakAllah brother
Salaam from Nottingham Uk
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Waiting for next chat
Tbis was amazing please explain the difference between ahsari anf maturidi later in future lectures
52:28 😂 this „Ghuraba“ Argument some brothers make cracks me up every time
Assalamu alaykum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatahu.
As always may Allah reward you for your teaching and sharing with us these knowledges. I ,one of who has great interest in this kind of knowledge, personally got a lot of benefits from this lecture as well as your other lectures.
I am really looking forward to hear you about following progression of kalām development.
If it’s possible, may I say , I personally hope that you can explain and introduce some main figures (such as Al-Ashāri, Ibnsina, Al-Ghazali, Ibn Taymiyya …) in your future Library Chat would be great beneficial for deepening our understanding of whole concept. May Allah grant you and all of us beneficial knowledge towards Jannah.
Jazaka Allah khayr! Of course this shows that our ’ulema were humans. However I love these lectures.
Him: If you don't know what kalaam means please don't watch it is not for you
Me: ok. Sure. (continues watching bc curiosity peaked)
May Allah reward you Honorable sheikh for your work to unite the Ummah. Very beneficial to see that there are variant views within the Hanbali and Hanafi traditions. It seems that Al-Ashari and Ibn Taymiyyah were more moderate, with crossover views. Unfortunately the schools as they exist today are more rigid. The Imams of the schools did not see things as black and white as the followers of their schools do. The rigidity of the students within a school is problematic.
Also Shaikh you teach us that ijtihadi knowledge is a living experience through the scholars, similar to muhkam and mutishabihah. Why should anyone dispute regarding the speculative verses when there are many unambiguous ones? Do they want fitnah?
Jazaakallah Sh.
You might even start Series of Salaf -Ashari creed
I was missing the library chat
Dr. Yasir, please after finishing this series of Athari & Ashari, elaborate on the Hadith of 73 sects wholisticly because I’d like to understand that Hadith in light of your stance with this matter (which is the same position I hold as well). Barak Allah Feek
He is referring to the Seljuks
9:17: Ikhtilaf between Ibn Kullab & Ibn Hanbal. (Allah speaks when he wants to, silent when He doesn’t VS As there is no change in Allah's sifat the speech of Allah is eternal (Allah is speaking eternally in a manner we cannot comprehend) and internally (not voice & sound, mind/jaat; Ghazali)
29:31: Imam Ash'ari's reason to write Al-Ibanah.
28:32-38:01- Imam Ash'ari
History is never boring with Sheikh Yasir.
On a separate note, I mean no disrespect sheikh but can I advise against wearing skin coloured tops on camera.
Sure
You have a dirty mind. I didn’t even think of that until you mentioned it. And in any case, it wouldn’t be awra.
Who said anything about awra? It was a fashion tip dude. You’re the one making it dirty.
Does anyone have the pdf "al ashari,a vindication of kalam" by Robert mc carthy
Dr. Really interested in hearing your opinions on aqeeda post neosalafism especially sifat, I can hear the athari beleif in your talk non the less very important to hear an outside opinion on the matter . I have seen some that took the same path, as you mentioned, ascribe tafweed to imam Ahmad instead of ithbat and attributing the same to Ibn Qudama, Ibn Al Jawzi, and Ibn rajab amongst other hanbalis saying that is Imam Ahmad way and that the difference with Ibn Taymiya ithbat school is only linguistic . We really need your ideas here so that the ppl leaving thr strand do not attribute these meanings because of there animosity towards thst group instead of the real truth. Jazak Allah Kher .
This is not true. Imam Bukhari and Imam Muslim, a muhaddith, the greatest muhadith followed the school of Imam Ibn Kullab as mentioned by Imam Asqalani. As did Imam Zahiri who followed the circles of Imam Ibn Kullab
ATHARI AQEEDAH VS THE PSEUDO ATHARI (PSEUDO SALAFI/WAHHABI)
These rightly guided Hanbalis would
1. Negate the human meaning; meaning not attribute it to Allah عزوجل.
2. Thereafter submit its meaning to Allah عزوجل
This is called Tafweed; which some 'Ash’ari and Maturidi schools did as well
-The Salafi/ Wahhabi do not do this hence they are not to be taken seriously when they say they are 'Atharis
That is because the blasphemously believe the human meaning is possible with Allah عزوجل
-The Salafi/ Wahhabi do not do this hence they are not to be taken seriously when they say they are 'Athari
That is because the blasphemously believe the human meaning is possible with Allah عزوجل
-As for Tafweed. Yes, it’s referred to as Tafweed with Tanzeeh. Remaining silent BUT clearing Allah from the Kayf "the How" and clearing Allah from resembling the creation in any matter
So it is remaining silent for the actual meaning.
However, The Wahhabi they say that they remain silent of the how. So they say that there is a Kayf but they don't the Kayf so they remain silent. This is what they claim and that’s a lot different from remaining silent from the meaning and clearing the Kayf, which is the Aqeedah of the TRUE Salaf us-Saliheen
The Athari/Hanbali creed are two types, one is a Sunni Aqeeedah the other has been Hijacked by the Pseudo Salafis/Wahhabi sect (i.e. the Anthropomorphists) !
1st The true Athariyyah creed (Hanbali Aqeedah) is from Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal رضي الله عنه which belong to Ahlus Sunnah Wa'l Jama'ah which is similar to the al-Maturidiyya and Asha’irah Aqeedah, which does not apply direction, body parts etc. to Allah عزوجل. But a forgotten school because of the Anthropomorphists.
2nd is the Hijacked Athariyyah by the Taymun (Pseudo Salafi/Wahhabi i.e followers of ibn taymiyyah, Ibn Qiyyum, ibn Abd al-Wahhabi, Albani, Bin Baz etc. ) who has hijacked the term, which is not part of the Ahlus Sunnah Wa'l Jama'ah and our Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal رضي الله عنه are free from Anthropomorphism, they apply direction, body parts etc. to Allah عزوجل .
The problem is today's Athari speak with authority about topics they have no understanding of nor are they qualified to comment on. Athari means only using what what said in Qur'an and Sunnah meaning they believe in the Words of Allah by whatever Allah meant when stating them and laysa kamithlihi shay. So a real (Sunni) Athari is the same in core belief as a al-Ash'ari and al-Maturidi only without deeper sharh or possible explanations.
Some Sunni Athari scholars: Shaykh Abd al-Qadir Jilani al-Hanbali, Imam ibn Jawzi al-Hanbali, Imam adh-Dhahabi ash-Shafi’i, Imam al- Laalikaa’i, The Tamimi family, Al Khalwadhani, Ibn Hubairah, Al zaghouni, Ibn Qudamah, Ibn Hamdan, Ibn muflih, Al Tufi, Ibn Rajab, Ibn Najjar, Al Mardawi, Ibn Balban, Mari' Al Karami, Al Saffarini, Ibn Salum, Ibn qa'id al najdi, Al Shatti Family.
@@zccau2316 whats not true ? Are you trying to respond to someone else ? Imam bukhari followed Ibn Kullab !!!? Go read khalk afaal al ibad for imam Bukhari yourself ( not parts from here and there ) and you would understand what school of thought he belonged to ...
@@fifafreebies8941 you are lost because you have zero understanding of the athari school and from what you have written, zero understanding on what tajseem is and 3olow is. I dont have time to educate you on this , the dr. Is talking way beyond your grade here, lets learn from him ... on a side note , never judge something without researching it yourself, dont listen or read segments here and there from ppl then make up your mind . Salam 🙂
@@saadallahchebaro8282 Imam Bukhari died because extreme Hanbali kept persecuting him. What are you On lmao?
If possible, can you make an episode on Kalam Nafsi and does the asya'irah really believe that the Qur'an is not Kalamullah al-haqiqi?
I love your library chats you need to do one on music halal or haram
You can watch that in his Q&A Series
@@MuhammadZakyAbdurrahman yh need the link to that
If you ever stop this library chats I am gonna come to the US and give “Dharna” on your door step.
phew, library's back - Alhamdulillah! Almost developed acute brain rash, because library deficiency
Ya doin it yaa dooin it yaa naughty Naughty !!!
Please come on Mufti Abu Layth mindtrap !!
Ashaarism moderates between Mu’talizism and Atharism
The credits for the audio at the end please.
Salam sheikh can we get more library chats plz
Has anyone found the links to which he was referencing in regards to Abdul Hasan Al Ashari's works? 37:00
The Ring lights are to be kept a little bit higher and closer so that they aren't reflective on your glasses, Sheikh
It makes sense to me now. So, the Sheikh theorized that Al-Ibaanah was written to "please" Al-Barbahari, when Al-Ash'ari visitted Baghdad. And what's interesting is, some Salafi/Athari preachers in my country would quote Al-Ibaanah to prove that Al-Ash'ari died, according to them as an "Ahlus-Sunnah" (Athari). I know that Sheikh Yasir said, some atharis tried to claim that he (Al-Ashari) became a "pure athari" at a certain point in his life (not in the end).
Yea this isn't true. No one claimed this ever, until ibn taymiyyah
Ibana is one of other books such as makalat al islamiyeen which were quoted by Ibn Asaker in tabyeen kathb al muftari , that been said , I know for a fact that Imam Al Ashari would not write something so fundemental in aqeeda to please a human being , given that even post these books , al barbahari didnt accept him not did Al Ashari recant.
@@saadallahchebaro8282 apologies, maybe "pleasing" is not the right word more of "seeking approval", "there are differences, but we are also ahlus sunnah".
@@hassanabdaladl i think both camps tried to make claims. Some Asharis, also say that Ibn Taymiyyah "made tawbah" in the end and became "ahlus-sunnah" (Ashari).
@@MuhammadZakyAbdurrahman he actually did lol but no one believes that he meant it. Even asharis don't believe that he meant it. He made tawbah and pronounced he was an Ash'ari, in an Ottoman Court, if I remember correctly. But he was basically forced to do it
Can someone link the Qadiri creed pdf that shaykh was talking about?
I read a different story about why Ahmad bin Hambel disapproved al Muhasibi. Ibn Hambel and others were gathering all the ehadis they could find and being extremely careful in vetting the authenticity and wording of the ehadis they collected. El Muhasibi, on the other hand, was not as careful in the use and citation of ehadis as ibn Hambel was. E.g., el Muhasibi would not cite the proper source of a hadis and the chain of sources. That eventually led to a tention between the two giants of Islamic knowledge.
I know in scholarship this issue was a big deal, whether to categories and not to categories the siffats of Allah swt, but these matter lets be honest only Allah swt can affirm and we will know in the hereafter and not something that effects taqwa and sincerity of imaan and your relationship with Allah swt.
Because how does categorsing and not categoring impact the everyday worshipping Allah swt.Its not a major difference in thinking, not sufficient to make a new sect. The only issue is of Qadr which can effect worshipping Allah swt. Its interesting to read history anyway.
What distinguishes Islām from other religions?
Its belief in the Creator (in Arabic, Allāh). Most religions believe the Creator is a man, some tangible entity, or some being that exists somewhere high up on a throne, or some kind of spirit.
Muslims believe Allāh, the Creator, has no resemblance or need to the creations in anyway whatsoever. Among the creations is darkness, light, time, space, directions, such as above and below, places, the heavens, skies, and everything else. This means the Creator existed before all the aforementioned creations, before time, place, above and below, darkness, and light. Thus, it is known and is the belief of Muslims that God existed without a place, space, and direction, and after creating them, is clear of occupying them. This also means the Creator is clear of being a man or volume taking entity, as whatever takes up space needs that space to exist, and Allāh is clear of need, thus clear of occupying space. Allāh is not an ethereal entity, such as a spirit, or a tangible entity, like a human. Allāh is the Creator of both.
Please never stop making theology videos.
14:32 On the other hand, you have ibn qudamah r.h(who was born shortly before al shahrastani died) narrating from imam ahmad that he said ‘… bila kayf walaa ma’naa’ in lumatul itiqaad. Alongside that, you have a number of other hanbali scholars, even before ibn qudamah like al qadhi abu ya’la saying that it is impermissible to describe Him as being everywhere or in a place, and it is permissible to say that *He is fis-samaa ‘ala al-‘arsh*. If we say he affirmed the meaning, he’d be contradicting himself.
Granted, there is a narration from imam Malik talks about kayfiyya, however the counter weight in the hanbali ulamaa’s works supporting tafweedh, before and after ash-shahrastani’s time, is too significant to overlook.
This is true and having looked inti this matter for some time now , when you compile all of the athars of Imam Ahmad , you find that without a doubt he is not a mufawid at least the maturidi way and some of the same athars include no manaa except the manaa that Allah described himself aside from it being an ahad which some like al khalal didnt accept. I would really love to hear the Dr. Opinion on this .
@@saadallahchebaro8282 just adding on to what you've mentioned; it is clear by gathering the various Athar of Imam Ahmad RH, that he indeed committed to Ithbat of the sifaat and consigned the howness to Allah. In essence, he committed to the Tafweed Kaffiyah and not Tafweed ma'niyah and this is in line with the Athari doctrine, as supported by over 100 narrations from the Salaf committing to Tafweed Kaffiyah and not Tafweed entirely. The lone narration that mentions Imam Ahmad saying, without a meaning and with a how, can be relegated to a refutation against the Jahmiyyah who denied the attributes in its entirety.
To assume that that one narration proved he followed Tafweed is odd since you would be disregarding the many prevalent narrations wherein he committed to the meaning yet didn't enquire into the how. Also there are two opinions regarding that narration the commentator mentioned, one being that it is a discontinued report and one that it is an accepted report but a refutation to the Jahmiyyah.
@@AliAbuH agreed though some neo-hanbalis claim that we have to use ta'weel to explain this specific athar of Imam Ahmad since taking it as by althahir would imply both kayfiya and meaning are unknown given that many hanbalis post 500 hijri where actual mufawida to some extent specifically on the manaa part . This is why I wanted the Dr. To elaborate on this point to clear it up since he touched base on it very briefly.
I’ve been looking into this, especially today. It looks like he skipped over this in this talk. Maybe he will cover in the future talk. However, he obviously doesn’t believe that this was the creed of the Salaf.
What ordinary muslim shld do if trapped in the tension between the two school?
What distinguishes Islām from other religions?
Its belief in the Creator (in Arabic, Allāh). Most religions believe the Creator is a man, some tangible entity, or some being that exists somewhere high up on a throne, or some kind of spirit.
Muslims believe Allāh, the Creator, has no resemblance or need to the creations in anyway whatsoever. Among the creations is darkness, light, time, space, directions, such as above and below, places, the heavens, skies, and everything else. This means the Creator existed before all the aforementioned creations, before time, place, above and below, darkness, and light. Thus, it is known and is the belief of Muslims that God existed without a place, space, and direction, and after creating them, is clear of occupying them. This also means the Creator is clear of being a man or volume taking entity, as whatever takes up space needs that space to exist, and Allāh is clear of need, thus clear of occupying space. Allāh is not an ethereal entity, such as a spirit, or a tangible entity, like a human. Allāh is the Creator of both.
A layman is only responsible of what he can affirm as something emphatically/unequivocally known to be part of the religion. Focus on the necessary aqida and ibadat and don't have extreme biases based on ignorance like some do
Where is the #21 and #22?
I can't see those.
The debate with Osama Hassan of UK and other conclusions you had before, i felt that there was a huge gap between you and other intellectuals. On that basis, I think that logic and specially arabic ´classic logic is important especially equally important as grammar, rhetoric and etymology i.e. 'ilm al-sarf. So, did Yasir Qadhi studied logic? There are a lot of books, including Sulam al-Munawraq. So, i would like to hear your answer. I may sound critical but i'm honest too. Thanks in advance