It's time to talk about AI again - SORA the new text to video tool disrupting the industry
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This this is SORA the new text to video generation AI model that create video from a text prompt much like tools such as Midjourney. This video discusses how effective it is and whether it will be an industry disrupter or not
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I’ve been new to 3D and learning for the past few months. Seeing this going viral on twitter was such a soul crusher man.
I’ve been learning for about a year now. It does hurt when you realize you put so much time and effort into something only for it to be taken away.
However, AI is still new and maybe it will be a help to digital artists in the future. I’m still going to continue learning regardless.
@@user-sn1hi7my7xyea, I stopped driving cars when they could self drive on the highway 🙄 you don’t have to stop doing something you enjoy just because something or someone else can do it lol. You should be discouraged at the millions of other videos that are infinitely better than anything you’ll ever make and then realize that AI doesn’t matter to you in the real world. Just go be happy and do what you’d like.
@@lawrencerandall1037 that's true if you're doing something for the fun of it, but it's not true if you want to make a living out of it, we're only a couple years away from completely accurate text to 3D/animation maybe even less, current tools can already do very solid 3D models and animations, Unity 6 that comes out later this year introduces text to 3D animation for your models. So if you plan to make it a career then you're screwed, but if you're doing something just for the sake of it then I agree it doesn't matter, just do it.
This monster eats at the core of the creative human soul.
It doesnt...you still need humans to think of prompts and make edits. Creativity is still there...its a tool like everything else, technology is advancing
prompt are not creativity, creats it's with souls and hands with an 8 years old can do the same things as an adult it's just bullshit and non sense.@@jeffreyredding9229
Nope. The same was said about movies, then TV, etc. People fear what they don’t understand.
There are still theaters, books, cinemas, etc.
are we really missing the obvious fact that AI need real art to feed on in the first place?
@LightenStar Love will be in art if you put it there -- it's up to each and every one of us as individuals.
About the breaking barriers... I dont know but I am not overly excited about that.
My teacher in uni once said "not every story deserves to be told" and Steven from Steven Zapata Art said "Yo dont just want your story to be told, you want it to be heard as well". And I think those are two very important quotes.
Leaves me thinking, that those stories which deserve and need to be told, will be drowned out (is that the word?) by stories which honestly do not need and do not deserve it.
I wish AI could do proper retopo and UV Mapping, so I could spend more time practising Sculpting and texturing...
AI: Hold my beer ...
I bet somebody is working on that, but most likely the whole pipeline from modeling to texture will be made by AI which is sadge
@@bastian6173 Nope, for now they admit it's an impossible task for AI
Those are actually 2 things which i've used 'ai' for a while. Or more accurately machine learning, heuristics.
quadremesh, and uvpackmaster are very powerful tools. Tho you still need to unwrap it yourself, and guide the algorithm in both cases. And with quadremesh the results arent always good, so you need to know how to do it yourself when it cant be guided.
@Duhya I got quadremesher about a week ago and in my experience, it's good for static objects, like a statue or something haven't tried it in a model that I'm planning to rig and animate tho. I wish their vertex paint feature could be used as a guide for the edge flow that would be useful, alas it's not...
Why couldn't we invent flying cars or hover boards instead of ai
I completely understand the love hate relationship with AI. When it first came out, I thought finally, I can make a game and not worry about an artist failing to come through, never responding or wanting to charge way more than expected. After some trial and error, I found it was taking me hours to find anything usable. I've always been better at 3D than 2D, but I'm slowly working on my art skills. I've used AI for generating concept images but ultimately I always end up frustrated with all the tiny details being wrong, so I'm continuing to try to improve my own skills, albeit very slowly.
I don't even work on 3d, as I'm an illustrator mainly and touched 3d a few times, but I'm subscribed to your channel because you have taught me a few things before and I very much like your perspective, like the one in this video.
I very much agree with your point on AI and I think it's fundamentally important to express such views to remind ourselves that ultimately we have to question what our passion or profession are about and why we pursue them.
After 20+ years in my profession I have come to realise that what is important to me is the craft itself, more than the outcome. I draw because I enjoy drawing. The danger of AI is that it deprives professionals like us of the journey of the craft, which is the vital part of the work: without craft and years dedicated to it there can be no style, no spirit in the work, no discovery, no innovation, and ironically nothing to feed an AI with.
I would rather get AI to do boring or dangerous things like mining or parking a car, leaving it entirely out of artistic tasks which have always been the core joys of being a human. I am not too forgiving towards the minds that drive and fund this sort of tech, but I do agree with you that such tools might stimulate people into discovering their own creativity, because I ultimately think that all of us are creative. We just have to find how to express it. That's where the journey of the craft begins, which is a turbolent one but also much more rewarding than a prompt.
I believe its good to useAI for concept art, to discover what client/me is looking for and then work with the result to create the *true* version with the love in it :)
Now we gonna deal with scammers via video calls
That is a huge worry with AI. It looks so realistic that it could generate a video that looks like you. You could frame someone for a crime if you wanted
We already have been with deep fakes
I think the ability to rotoscope out people/objects quickly, generate background scenes while the actors are in the foreground is where this tech will be really useful. It may one day even remove the need for a green screen background as the AI will just remove the studio/stage from the footage. This would be great for indie film makers as it would give smaller production houses/individuals better access to VFX that was out of reach/too expensive.
This was such a refreshing take to hear. Your balanced analysis at the end was spot on for me in verbalizing the internal conflict I feel seeing this technology advance. On one hand I'm excited by the novelty of it and on the other, I fear I'll be out of a job soon. I work at a creative agency doing video and I've already seen clients demanding shorter timelines and less budget for artists, with the insistence on using AI instead. Sometimes it's hard to tell whether that's because they're determined to leverage this technology to save money or because they just want to say their content was made with AI to seem relevant since AI is such a buzzword right now. It could be both. Either way, it's depressing as an artist. As someone who's worked in video production for years and knows how many jobs on many levels are affected by the rise of AI tech, I'm deeply concerned with where we're headed. Artists will always make art but whether we can survive on our art or not, is what's at stake.
Greed is absolutely the operative word here. In a perfect world, this would be just another tool for creatives to use but we live in a capitalist world with an enormous wealth inequality gap already and you're right to be skeptical of all that money pouring into the development of tools like this. It likely means investors will steer the development of AI to maximize their own profits and accumulation of power at the expense of the rest of us because frankly, that's what it always means. That makes me concerned for labor, human rights and maybe even political freedom.
Talking with someone yesterday, it's baffling that we managed to rope ourselves into a corner where robots do all of the creative art and humans do all the intensive menial labor. We got this all backwards at some point... 😅
indeed
@anchorlightforge agreed
Very well-stated. I think it's important to point out to all the AI apologists out there that whether or not AI gets adopted as a primary tool in the graphics industries, its use will be determined by the people holding the purse strings and not the artists themselves. Artists can argue all day about ethics or the appeal of the tool, but it's the content-consuming public that makes their preferences known. The public, by and large, don't care how visual imagery is made, they just want it made. While artists often hold themselves to unnaturally high quality standards, the general populace has no such limits. If the public can get their visual graphics needs met more cheaply and faster, there's no reason to expect that they won't embrace AI over more traditional content creation methods.
That does bug me. I’ve experimented with other AI text prompts just to see how it works. I see the message created by (Insert name) and it rings hollow because I didn’t do any work. I just entered a text prompt to generate an image or model
I think what worries the most is how fast and exponential this thing is. Yes,it has limitations,but for how long? Maybe next year it will be the absolute beast and it's kind of scary for most people haha
A buddy and me were talking about this and he said that it could be a useful tool for artists in the future. It’s still too early to come to a definite conclusion
@@user-sn1hi7my7x They will not be artists.They will be... um... AI prompters.
I remember when the printing press was first invented. A lot of people were worried about what would happen to all the local scribes and bookbinders. Then Martin Luther came along with his Ninety-five Theses and the same folks REALLY went wild. You all had to see it to believe it -- the world seemed like it was ending!
But humanity ultimately prevailed.
It turns out we're a species of creators and innovators -- and we find ways to make use of whatever tools happen to be at our disposal. The same will be true with AI: We'll find so many awesome ways to create on top of it that the current panic seem patently absurd.
Stay humble. Love. Create. And you'll find out how to make use of all this for your own ends, too 🚀
LMAO, I hope you are not a creative and have to eat your garbage take in a few years. This is not an innovation to be used by creatives, this is a tool for the rich to no longer need creatives. This is trash mate, so much trash that I think it was actually written by an AI
I'm at the point where I viscerally despise everything about AI art, and instead of "getting used to it," I'm hating it more and more the longer I look at it (both as a general concept but also anytime I just sit and examine an individual piece).
And I don't use the term "hate" loosely or hyperbolically, I mean it in the most genuine sense. This stuff is unethically trained, produced for the express intention of replacing human artists, and the only time it "produces" anything that isn't soul-gratingly ugly, you inevitably find out that it's just three humans' art mish-mashed together with virtually no alterations.
It should be regulated into the dirt, the corporations producing it should be sued into bankruptcy, and the executives and tech bros cooking it up blacklisted from touching anything remotely contingent on the arts ever again.
Thank you Grant for your take on this.
Balanced thoughts. No hype. Appreciated!
Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
Being creative and having the skills should be connected.
Those who grind and get good, they should be rewarded, by creating cool art.
I think some random person typing some words and getting better results, than someone who spends years grinding the art, is unfair.
I think that the art you create is like a badge of honor that you are wearing.
It is who you are in some way.
I know that others are not like this and that others dont hesitate to use creations of others, just to make their own scene a bit better.
That mindset is just not for me. If I cant make it, I can't use it.
AI ruins the "art experience" for me.
Why spend hours learning and improving if anyone can do it?
The whole appeal, other than the art itself, is the skill cap. Reaching heights that other's cannot or will not.
I'm just hoping all of this insanely fast progress is going to turn into some kind of philosopic almost spiritual discussion rather than an even stronger increase in concentration of power. I mean whoever is in control of these tools is basically a god. We already have a enough of that. No matter what happens. I think we live in the most interesting of times ever. Like literally.
Thanks Grant for shining light on this topic!
What is interesting is that without human beings AI can't learn anything 😊
$80+ billion and counting. 😮💨
Investors aren't charities for us to have toys.
Unfortunately that's what I'm thinking. We really do live in the most interesting of times in 4.5 billion years... let that sink in. @@NotSoMuchFrankly
@@jozsefk9Yeah. AI isn’t able to do things without human intervention. I do worry of people misusing it.
@@user-sn1hi7my7x it can be prevented. But misusing by army is more worrisome. Maybe.
great analysis, thx grant
i have an opinion about all this. We ve seen a lot of layoffs recently and major enterprises only focusing on creating more value for the shareholders, if those CEOs can hire only a handful of ppl to create a commercial with AI, they WILL DO IT, they dont care if the machine is working on stolen data from artists, they will do what gives them more money, if the vfx ppl, artists, illustrators dont unionize they better be ready to have the value of their work reduced to almost nothing, some ppl may say "real art will have more value", no it wont, we are not living in a utopia, artists gotta make a living, and everywhere i look everyone is already considering replacing artists with AI. Yeah big enterprises still got their IPs and stuff like that, but we are talking about the majority of the ground ppl, these guys will be affected really hard. I mean, its already happening, if you look around. One last thing, this is not somewhere near comparable with the invention of photography, the industrial revolution or some stuff like that for a simple fact. There are so many more JOBS that can be replaced than the jobs that could be created. Automatization should reduce our working hours but at this point its gonna reduce way much more than that.
imagine if efficiency gains translated into more leisure time and higher quality of living
this is exactly what we need, but its not what we will get, im afraid
@@Healthy_Toki Only for the rich, unfortunately.
This is what no one is talking about. Right now, tech sectors are laying off thousands for profit. Thinking AI won’t have the same effect is ridiculous
Thank you for making this video. I try to stay away from it all a bit so I don’t get depressed, but I also don’t want to stick my head in the sand and ignore what is happening. I'm considering starting a 3D art school program soon, and seeing the rapid development that might be wasted money. But, regardless, I want to learn and a job in the industry was never guaranteed so I think I’ll just go for it and see where it ends up taking me. Worst case I wasted money but had a good time learning something I love and doing something I've always dreamed of.
My two favorite things are writing and animating, so yes, there's a scary future ahead. This technology will improve exponentially and an AI will be able to produce a professional level novel within a few years. It's definitely worrying and ultimately sad.
I like your outlook. I would agree with it. So so much to unpack. This is moving so fast. I can't believe I'm living in a time when AGI will be created. As a 3d artist, I'm not slowing down my practice and focus. I hope to leverage as much as I can and have to to keep up with the other artistic Jones'.
My thoughts exactly. I don’t think we should consider ourselves obsolete. On the whole, AI still requires human assistance
Hi, Grant. Thanks for this video and thread.
Even though my opinion comes from being an animator, I admit that the possibility of losing my job is still way smaller than the other problems you mentioned such as election manipulation, scams, non consensual imagery and such. I don’t think that lowering the entry bar for creators is worth that risk, specially considering that learning a craft and having access to tools is easier than ever.
I do agree that artists won’t disappear and that it’s a path still worth pursuing. But I’m not excited about a world where you can’t trust images anymore. Or a world where your creative output has to compete with a flood of machine made slop.
I just had an idea, this software paired with luma ai basically makes it the most realistic 3d model generator ever... you could literally just input the prompt a detailed drone shot of a simple photorealistic street and then put that into luma ai and then you could be left with an entire environment to use for game development (with a lot of clean up in blender ofc) or for renders and animations in like less than an hour
I’ve tried something similar with luma AI in blender. It feels more like a reference tool than anything
Honestly this whole thing really does boil down to money, in a perfect world where we are free to create and live without the burdon of money, then AI can only empower us. I hope goverments start seriously considering how the world is going to function after AI makes working at all totally redundant.
It will be like the poorhouse of old where poor people had to do literally pointless task like spinning around or something so that they can "earn" the meager food they eat if there's no real tasks. Or like that one episode in Black Mirror where you have to cycle to "earn points". I'm pretty sure most of our work right now is already redundant. Only water services, sewage systems/ garbage disposal, basic food production/distribution, shelter construction and maintenance and a few more things are absolutely necessary. Hell if aliens land tomorrow and showed us a cheap almost free way to produce electricity and cure most illnesses, you can be sure that our corporate overlords will send us to war against the aliens. But if the aliens showed them a way to gain a few more cents at the cost of kidnapping us regularly for alien experiments, the news media will be blasting nonstop about how awesome the aliens are. I love to share your hope, but most governments just work for the rich and powerful. Sorry for the rant.
AI will do the work, and there will be no need for government nor human beings, it seems. Because nobody will be able to pay for products which are going to be available due to AI work. Coz humans will have no money. Weird.
I don't know about any kind of industry perspective, but I know that as a hobbyist I've never been more interested in making art with my own hands than since these goofy AI became popular.
A couple of interesting developments:
The Blue Bird video is stunningly close to a shutterstock video of the same bird, as apparently there's a deal OpenAI have with shutterstock for sourcing training content/video for their Ai video learning model
Also - and this is really funny - apparently some Sora videos posted on youtube are being flagged for copyright strikes by the automated youtube process...
So these generated videos must be very very close to some source material for this to happen.
Yes this does give some insight into what's going on in the background
Lowering the boundaries of creativity is always good in my opinion.
New technologies are kinds of new tools. Taking software (e.g., Blender) as the example, what would people who lived before computer age see the wonderful tools we have today? The tools only make human beings busier because we can iterate our creations quicker. And we just want to create/share more.
Of course, all tools come with downside effects to various degrees. We as an intelligent species should always keep eyes on our own, take responsibility, and take action when necessary.
I really value and appreciate your thoughts on this Grant, you have pretty much covered everything there is to say, I will add my 2 cents for what it's worth! On the whole, I see AI as a good thing to help lower the bar for creatives, and I don't think it will replace us as 3d technical artists. As you know, it takes ten's of thousands of hours to learn all the disciplines needed to become a 3d technical artist, it is a never ending journey of study and development. However, I do think AI will make a lot of people lazy and most new creatives will seek quick and easy solutions rather than take time to learn the many disciplines needed to make it as a 3d technical artist. Ultimately this means there will become less and less 3d technical artists available on our planet, and so the value of knowledge 3d technical artists bring to the table will significantly increase and be worth a lot more. We have knowledge in lighting / shadow, colour, photography, cinematography, set design, animation styles, topology, rigging, physics, compositing, problem solving, cross platform integration, and of course R&D and insight for the actual individual products we are contracted to work on. These skill sets and so much more can't be reproduced by AI, it takes an individual with knowledge to execute all those tasks coherently. All the best and have a fantastic week 🙂
If the bar has to be lowered you were never going to make it. This is going to raise the bar, since there will be less jobs, smaller teams and unreal competition. Only the best will even have a chance
When I was reading about this, it sounded like it wasn’t available for public use yet because of legal reasons.
In a way this allows one to direct their own films. For someone like me who’s only good at doing low poly models/concept art; this would be useful for bringing my stories to life as I can’t master everything in blender or other 3D software. I think there’s still a benefit to learning how to use 3D software without AI as it’s a skill that may still be needed for understanding the AI itself
It is very confusing and crazy. Great video you explained the pros and cons very well. Creative people need to keep creating and expressing from their own experiences and authenticity because all this AI stuff is fake and empty when all is said and done, Simulacra and Simulation.
I agree. I’m going to continue learning regardless of AI. Raw skills may still be required to understand AI altogether
I think this is at a point where it will impact jobs. If you know the limits of the tech and play to them, you could use this right now. If you are careful to avoid the pitfalls like the centipede-crab and the auto-spawning wolves, you could use this for a load of different shots and concept work. The way things are going, the technology will improve at a dizzying pace.
Grant , there are plenty of free AI platforms that run on PC . One is Krita AI plugin. This software promotes itself and kills itself at the same time as far as any monetary gain because soon ANYONE can make the video or image that goes beyond any real human artist and they will all be a dime a dozen . It will only get better as time goes on as far as functionality. Right now I can make a Divinci sketch that can compete . AI is not anyone's friend and leads to something very dire in the future. Thanks for the share. :O)
Grant you are always voice of reason for me. Thank you! My thoughts are rather realistic about capitalism world that we are living, but i also think human needs human in almost every aspect of life. Sometimes i think about, what if people will stop create. We are very complicated creatures, there are too many processes going on in us, to simply just sit down and start creating. If tech will blow out this torch i don't know what will happen with humanity. Last time when someone decided to shut down artist, WWII happend. I think your advise to me from your previous video about AI, are very powerfull: just keep to create no matter happens. So thank you for that advise, it's definetely helped and help me now. Also I think we (artist) should value yourself even more than before. I think you know how much cost ticket to the ballet or theatre nowadays and so many people 50 years ago said that this kind of art will die and replace with TV, no, it's still living and expensive more than ever.
Yeah I don't know anymore. I am scared of the dangers and excited by the possibilities. I actually love the hallucinatory aspects of AI (the wolves merging and duplicating is super cool to me).
I’ve been in tech 30 years, 25 years ago I read two books that changed my life. “who moved the cheese” & “let my people go surfing”. If this technology concerns you, read those books and start living. There’s been job losses and evolution across non-digital trades for years, we adapt. The irony is the current fear is among digital workers that replaced many of those non-digital trades without pause or maybe ignorance 😂. Find your cheese 🧀 and go surfing 🏄🏽♂️ my friends 🤙🏽😎🖤🕺
Interesting video.
I think the Ai tech is moving fast, and the errors you see now, will be ironed out in a few years.
Ai is here, the genie is out of the bottle, you can’t un-invent it and put it back in the bottle. You have to embrace it, as a professional, look at how you could exploit the technology to your advantage, make your work more efficient.
If you are a creative artist or animator, you still need the creative ideas with Ai I think, it’s just that now it’s about working out the next prompt to get the image you want to convey your message, rather than drawing digitally in Photoshop with a stylus.
Before Photoshop and the stylus , artists were working with paper, paints, brushes, pencils and pens….when the first computers and drawing / animation software and hardware started arriving, there was some who would have been concerned about the future, but the new tech, opened up opportunities. Ai image and video generation has the potential to do similar, it’s another paradigm shift….but it still requires creatives.
I’m an Engineer, not an artist, and I’ve been actively looking at how I can leverage Ai in my work to make me more efficient., but the same applies to artists I think, but what do I know, I’m an Engineer after all.
There is a bit of a problem with that comparison though. Art, even if it is digital or traditional, 2D or 3D, still has the same fundamentals (like anatomy for example, if you're drawing characters, or color theory, etc.). An artist that is trained in a traditional medium will just have to learn the digital tools to transfer themselves to a digital medium, the same is true in reverse, the fundamentals are still the same. In the case of AI, someone that has no prior knowledge of those fundamentals can just prompt the AI to make an image, but lacks the knowledge to understand any potential mistakes in that image. Also "working out the next prompt" is in no way comparable to what an artist would do, it's more akin to a client working with an artist, so the people using AI aren't really visual artists, they are more like clients to the AI, or at most just like art directors.
Wow, you're the first person I've seen in this AI kind of discussion who has finally said that word "greed"!
Well thank you very much Grant, that means you are very honest person, and also, not greedy 🙂
Recently I saw a video where one youngster was celebrated almost as a kind of genius because he "invented" business model where AI generates parenting books for him, and he sells them online. At my utmost disbelief, in the comment section was I guess 90% positive comments about how clever he is.
Yep, unfortunately, greed is so toxically deeply rooted in western society that most people probably don't even realize how powerful motivator it is for them.
Still, although my comment probably sounds very negative, I must say that I'm quite optimistic about our future.
I believe that AI will force us to deeply investigate some questions that previous generations didn't even need to tackle during their whole lifetimes.
And once we truly realize that creativity and art is not just something made for fun, or as a decoration for our life, but is in fact almost truly essence of us as a creative species, we will finally truly start to respect every creative act, every creative person, and also each others on a more humane level.
Thank you very much for all the knowledge and your positive energy you're sharing with the world!
I wish you all the best!
I'm glad you are still optimistic 👍
On episode 2 of I’m an artist, do I still have a job; Sora’s keyblade hacking makes everyone think more of the same. 🐧🐉
I understand the dilemma, but don’t understand others comments that dont think it’s meaningful to extend access.
I hardly see Digital music / keyboards, be brought up but it’s such a great parallel! There are classical musicians that don’t think that popular artists are musicians, just like I’m seeing people say ai prompters aren’t creators.
Did a lot of orchestras fold yes, are there still orchestras creating yes. It’s always about what you do with the technology moreso than the technology itself; The world sometimes can be what we make it. 🐧🐉
Personally i would just like to say thanks for this video. I'm glad i stumbled across it on a fairly drizLy, uninspired day today.
I think this value was/is really valuable at a reminder that we should try not to just lose our heads (and our hearts) at the moment, to be able to reason with it and articulate your thoughts on it (ie, be conscious) is possibly our saving grace at the moment.
About the need for skill, you still need to understand compositing, colors & lighting, storytelling, etc. to make great art.
UM........before AI, yes......Now....... ?????????
@@supa3ekI still think the concept of garbage in, garbage out still applies. The time it takes to craft a prompt that exactly creates the result you want requires a basic understanding of what goes into film making.
Then there is music, lighting, cuts, etc.
Anyhow. We humans are storytellers. If AI allows people to tell stories, great. Still, how many ppl, because everyone has access to word and a library, have become a successful author the last decades.
I’d say wait and see.
Very interesting to hear your take on this. One aspect that I never hear discussed is how AI protects itself from polluting its own data set. Currently AI depends on the great body of data created by humans over the years but now AI is adding its own output to the data set it learns from. What effect will this have? Will it ultimately end up tweaking its own work over and over until everything it produces is the same? I don't know but I think it is interesting.
I heard that for AI to create what you type in the text prompt, it searches the internet for different art humans have created over the years and uses its search to generate the prompt. It makes you wonder whether the art is original or just cherry picking from other artists
Great video. Definitely hesitant and negative on AI with regards to job replacement, misinformation, and pornography made using likenesses of someone without their consent (or using likenesses of minors). I also think there will be a backlash movement to AI content with growing support around "AI-free" content and art. However, I do see potential with regards to early in the creative process, like with early conceptual art and brainstorming, also with helping artists streamline their processes by reducing the minutiae of tedious tasks (particularly on tight deadlines). Furthermore, with regards to the film industry, I am also hoping this might push back on how restrictively expensive filming on location or in studio currently is, thereby adding another bargaining chip for independent film makers for lowering those costs. All that being said, this is a strange new world we are all venturing towards and it's unnerving. AI is here and as much as I wish it wasn't, I would prefer for it to become a tool akin to Blender, Photoshop or After Effects, not a complete replacement of human beings.
in the end of video i was expecting Grant`s hands doing same strange movements same as in AI videos :DDD
Our host needs to copyright the phrase "Cillian Wolverine" so AI can't reproduce him!
The main thing is there is lack of true control over the result.. The result always has a high degree of randomness, you dont know what you're going to get.
This is a solid, nuanced take on this new tool. But as a graphics professional for 30+ years, I have to disagree with your take that you're excited by the potential of this technology. At the heart of it, it's still theft, just like the still image generators. I honestly don't see this benefiting anyone but the bean-counters of corporations who can now employ only a few people to do the jobs of dozens or hundreds of artists. I'm not claiming whether this is good or bad - it just is what it is. But as a professional who has to navigate this transitional phase, we are about to be royally screwed.
I definitely appreciate where you are coming from
I think a big issue will be people committing crimes that are caught on camera, Then they claim it was Ai
while it's a nice thought that it can open barriers for people lacking equipment, skills etc. I think that is also an opinion i disagree with entirely. People spend years of energy and money and frustration getting competent at making art, whether its animation, videos, music etc, so for someone to be able to type some prompts and masquerade as an artist is basically just insulting and wrong imo. Artists can spot it yes, but what about the other 90 odd percent of people who have never opened a 3D program or shot a professional video ? Most have no idea it is AI. Everyday i am seeing people commenting 'Wow you're art is just incredible, and sometimes supporting the 'artist' on Patreon etc and i look at the profile, and its someone 'making images' with Mid journey. Devoid of any skills, talent, or passion to put in the hours to learn a craft. There is no excuse to not learn the tools, it is just laziness imo. Music is the same, people make music with pre made drums packs, midi packs, preset packs, its essentially painting by numbers, no effort needed to write chords and melodies, mix a beat, make a synth sound etc.
For me, the main problem is that a lot of companies just want to save money, most in fact, so if it becomes 'OK' to use AI at a fraction of the cost, then they're certainly going to go for that rather than pay an artist to do the job. I absolutely hate AI and anyone that uses it solely to create, shouldn't call themselves an artist, they should just call themselves what they are, and that is in fact just lazy. The people that will benefit off it are the schemers that wanna pop off on IG and make money from it. No one that cares deeply about creating would use this crap imo.
Personally, as a screenwriter who’s discovering that projects seem to go into development with producers and never seem to materialise - I’ll be using this tech to bring my screenplays to life. Hopefully it’s possible to train the model and have consistent characters which can be used to create a cast. You could then VO the characters with AI voices, which also has the possibility of getting better and better over time.
Literally everyone is thinking this. Are you the best screenwriter of all time? Can you go up against Disney and other Billion dollar corporations that are thinking the same thing. AI is not your friend, it is literally raising the competition to a point where very few will make it. The studios are all profit driven, any chance to make their profits larger by taking shortcuts and paying people less will 100% be abused.
3D artists are still safe and can keep a balanced view on the tech, but it's much harder for 2D artists whose works were stolen for AI training and who suddenly have to compete with cheap AI art in their reality
Something about these videos is creeping me out, you can almost feel the entity (the machine) that made it
OK I gotta admit, I had never imagined things would develop THIS quickly with AI image generation. This is crazy.
They may create but the main question is - can the A.I replicate the stylization that is unique to each human and break down the 'why a certain thing has been done at a specific spot or situation in a specific manner by the artist' and use it as if it is it's own reasoning, because in my opinion, people only consume so much art because none of it is same, it may be similar but it's also unique in it's own ways. If A.I ever reaches that level, then I fear there might be no hope. Until then WE BALL!
From all the comments I read regular people don’t care. Good enough is enough for them since all they want is more of the same, not genius or new, they want Harry Potter, Star Wars and all the same franchises over and over again
00:54 Look at her legs. They overlap and the left leg crosses over to become the right leg.
Are you listening? Or were you busy looking at the woman in the red dress?
Look again ...
ai is shit
It has been many years now since I first used Blender and now I’m finally making progress on learning character animation. Since I only use Blender as a hobby and I’ve currently no intentions to turn it into a job, I expect that it will take me at least 2 years to build all the skills I need to create an animation short. Then I expect it will take another year to actually create and finish the animation that I have in mind.
I’ve lots of ideas for creating hours of animation. As of now, it doesn’t seem likely I would have enough time in my life to make all of that on my own. So AI technology sounds promising to help getting more of those ideas realised. Some bits of what the AI produced, can then be used as is, while other bits you would replace with what you created yourself.
One thing that wasn’t clear from your video if AI only produces the end result here or if it could also produce a Blender file, allowing you to tweak what AI produced.
So if we extrapolate this out by 2 years, I'd say people could go to an AI web page that creates movie scripts, get a movie script, then go to an AI web page that creates videos from those scripts, and every single human being on Earth can generate a full-length movie every single day in Disney level quality. I don't know if anyone knows anything about the supply and demand in here but if the supply of something is infinite, then the demand and therefore the value of it is going to be zero.
It’s fkn awesome…glad you acknowledge this stuff…instead of being scared of it…epic…can’t wait 🤙🏽😎🖤. Also love your blender courses 🙏
@8:14 same as every other development, humans are curious, and explore, and this is how we progress, by doing things we have no idea what the results will be or why we even want to do them. Planes, trains, automobiles, microprocessors, etc….
We already know, Sci-if writers have already told us, and it doesn’t end well for humanity 😂
The only time I use AI, professionally, is to quickly generate an image to be used as a concept. I'll have an idea and I'll type the idea into the AI and generate an image, pick the ones closest to my vision and use it as a base for my Blender work further developing my idea as I create. It's quick and dirty and gives a visual plan on what I'm doing rather than a rough sketch that I've created. I'm using Microsoft's AI assistant, Copilot and the workflow has been working very well. It's very helpful.
I am hopeful, but there needs to be some restraint by the AI companies. I doubt there will be much since there is money to be made like Grant has said. It's difficult to see what their end game is, are we to loose all knowledge and simply ask an AI to do everything in the future? It would be interesting to know what these companies envision for the future.
To be a creator implies that you are in control of the process and the final result is an accurate expression of your intent. When someone types a paragraph of text into an image generator and this results in a fully realised complex image I invite you imagine this process in reverse-
Lets say we decide to burn the Mona Lisa but that's ok because before we do so we will commission a skilled writer to write a full and complete description of the painting. Can it really be said that those few paragraphs of written text in any way capture and thus preserve the subtle complexity and beauty of that work of art?
Of course not! People who type text into art generators are not 'creatives'- their contribution to the final work is negligable at best- most of the 'creative' decisions involved are being made by a machine that has no creative capacity whatsoever and is simply executing an algorthmic process predetermined by it's programming and training data.
And even if it could be claimed that AI Art generators are faithful interpreters of their users written instructions it would still not be possible to reconstruct the destroyed Mona lisa purely from a written description because words cannot in fact express images in anything but the most crude and approximate way.
If you doubt this imagine trying to paint someone's portrait purely using a written description of what they look like- would your finished painting look like that person?- no, of course not. So to suggest that 'text to image' is a legitimate form of creative expression is like arguing that you could eat the menu and somehow actualy taste the food it describes.
The only way to create something is to create it, to be in control at a granular level over the process used to bring that thing into being. Tossing words into a black box and then claiming that the things it decides to make in response are 'your' creations is just a form of self deception, a pretence. Art does not need to be 'democratized'-anyone can make art at any time and always could do so long before AI came along. Some of the most powerful art ever made was made by people who lived in caves using the most basic tools and materials imaginable- certainly their works could be called 'primitive'- but no one who has seen them would ever challenge their status as acts of genuine creation- no one needs permission to call themsleves an artist- and no needs AI to express themselves unless what they seek to do is not so much express as impress- seek to claim a level of skill that they never attained and had no interest in attaining in the first place.
Well...What I find annoying about this kind of technology is we will lose the sense of wonder. All you will have to do is introduce a prompt and get a result. Then other people will find that prompt and replicate it. Just like those Balenciaga videos that flooded you tube last year. And another sad fact is people is already asking things like WHAT ARE YOUR PROMPTS or where can I find a trained model for *insert artist* Art as human expression is decaying. Behind the idea of making art available for everyone , but the thing is , those models used already created art. The ethical issue will always be there. Humans improve using past knowledge as inspiration and improving or finding their own style. But what´s special about a machine devouring millions of images AND THEN giving a result as fast a click of a button. Like any human endeavor, I think effort is what makes the final result more rewarding. The fact you watch your creation evolve, improve.
This thing is here to stay , but is not a tool for helping as they are trying to sell it. One thing is to automatize repetitive process, but completely removing human effort makes the future very dark.
And, PLEASE, don´t kid yourself with things like " still needs a human to insert the prompts" The pace this is going, humans won´t be needed for even that task.
It is important to remember that innovation gives birth to new possibillities. AI is a great and powerful tool that can and will help many, artists and creatives included, very much so. As a very lowlevel example of an issue that we all deal with in creativity which is the ”writers-block”..incredibly frustrating and can keep you in a hole of no creativity for anything from 1hour to a month or even longer…AI can most definetly help you there. I feel like we live in a society where it has to be all in…on everything..all or nothing, allways….and that is a horrible way to approach almost anything in life. As you say, there will be jobs lost, sure, but that is the nature of everything , AI or not. There will be new jobs as well, so if anything, it will be important to stay on top of it and use it to your advantage..and that doesnt mean you have to love it, or hate it..but make use of it as you desire.
I'd like to see an A.I. built to take the positions of upper management, maybe then they'll see how or why people are upset or afraid of A.I.
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However, of course now there's the fear of working for machines.
Back in the late 90s or early 2000s there was an online Java or flash applet that was called Barretts or Bartlets Virtual Boss app. There was a similar complaint generator. You could tell it how many paragraphs of nonsense you wanted and it would give you a better explanation of synergies and synchronicities that will promote our growth and a very bright future for the shareholder. It probably disappeared because it already served better gibberish than many human leaders. 🤣
ownership would be happy about that
Thanks Grant.. the goal is purely financial. The grandma birthday cake seems like a clip out of a horror film. We are seeing the limitations in self driving cars where that last 10% can be deadly.
Nobody has ever been killed by slightly janky CG. So the issue that stops full autonomous cars doesn't stop Ai implementation in fields like entertainment creation.
Sora ai will replace 3rd artists?
I started learning on blender,
Do you advise me to continue learning, or should I stop learning?
I think it will be a long time before programmes like sora take over 3d artists
@@grabbitt
I hope so
I will just be studying for chef on the side...
I think that an implementation of a system such as universal basic income would greatly benefit everyone, especially artists, as they wouldn't have to burn themselves out in pursuit of finding a job/ making money to get by. I think that being in a situation where money isn't always a problem can greatly boost motivation and creativity for everyone.
What it can do after one year, or two or ten?
Ten years from now? No one will have a job. No one.
As long as your job requires Creativity and Art, you shall Never be replaced.
At least not all of you will be replaced. Some of the quirks that he pointed out in the movements and images at the beginning of the video are things you artists can see, but the casual observer would ignore stuff like that. This will create an industry shake-up for sure.
There will be less jobs, so the competition alone will drown out the majority. If only the best of the best or those with connections can make it, most people won’t
I wonder how much will OpenAI charge for videos longer than 60 seconds eventually?
What we're going to see is the video equivalent of fan fiction.
For me "AI" are tools, tools are not good or evil, it's mostly depends on how it's used.
In my case i don't think that is going to end well, at least not for people working on art related positions. The general audience doesn't usually see most of the weird things on the "AI" generated content.
The argument of breaking down the barrier of entry is kind of misguided. There are already very good creative people that have their stories turned into amazing films. They're called screenwriters and authors. Movies, while they can be indeed made by one single person (which there have been many cases like that ever since movies existed), need people with different life experiences working together if you want a good end result. Directors work with all sorts of designers (like set designers, costume designers, etc.) and with directors of photography because they trust that those people know more about visual mediums than them. A creative person that only has a good story does not have the life experience of a visual artist in order to know how to visually tell that story. Though there are indeed cases where people have both artistic skills and also storytelling skills and they already make awesome stuff independently. Skill is not just being able to make pretty pictures, it is having the knowledge of what's behind those pictures, what makes them work, the unspoken language of visual arts that is only learned through years of experience in a visual medium. Look at modern art, some of those works don't take very much skill to be created (it's the old "I could have drawn that"), but the artists behind most of the successful ones have been through a lifetime of training in a visual medium. I feel like these AI tools will only lead to good results if used by people that already have the skill necessary to make the same results in a more manual way, yet that manual alternative will always have more of their artistic personality and they will most of the time prefer it over the AI version.
Technology... killing jobs since that jerk who invented the wheel.
Being picky about the errors of this ia its a mistake , if you considere how fast this move.
The problem its not the vfx studios who work in old but estable pipeline, the problem is when his clients start his own IA development.
Same here, it looks like something really fun to use, but where does it leave me as an artist? (On the other hand, I still paint by hand even though there are computers around...)
I wonder if part of the solution is Universal basic income? Those who love to create will still be able to create (and don't have to take boring requests but instead work on what they want to themselves) and those who can't afford (or don't want to pay for) artists work can get their content with AI if that pleases them.
AI still needs reference to aspire (copy) from. Since a "dog taking selfie" has never existed, of course it will look a little off.
I think AI has the *potential* to free us of all the work we don't like doing. But what will more likely happen is billionaires becoming more independent, they will need less people to run their greed machines. There will be no safety net in place and everyone who won't have the opportunity to adapt will simply get left behind.
As a solo musician, I love the idea of AI. Musicians need a lot of work done if they want to market themselves effectively. This includes things like a website and music videos. Musicians who work alone need to do all the technical schmizzle behind the scenes of a music production by themselves. AI can make all of these things simple and lets people like me focus on the actual composing and writing of songs instead of having to acquire an unrealistic amount of different skillsets just to make a simple song and to get it out there for others to hear.
Disagree, you forget that not everything has to be great... everything surrounding your music is an aspect of your art and I wouldn't delegate it to a machine personally. (You don't even have to make music videos or a website). Just imagine people using AI "musicians" in some time to do a better job than you. We're lucky AI hasn't reached the music business yet (solo musician myself too).
Soon they will come for your music too
@@pronoun171 I don't want to train their shitty models with my music If that really happens might as well start selling some cds again
Call me cynical, but I honestly don't care about the positive use case of "people that don't have the skills but have a story to tell". EVERYBODY has a story to tell, and if your story was important enough, you'd learn the skills to tell it. The negatives far outweigh the positives here.
I wonder where this leaves hobbyist like myself? We depend on the experts to provide training to discuss issues when we use software like Blender, Zbrush etc. But when software are useless for people who need to pay bills in the industry, even though you can still use them as hobbyist, it's a very different feeling doing this in a vacuum. There is no point, no pleasure in typing something on a keyboard and suddenly this image (that you could never create yourself) suddenly appears! 😟
As impressive as it is, I find AI in general is just so random and unpredictable... more control is needed to be able to use it practically and effectively. That's not to say it won't disrupt things massively, but the randomness of it is what makes me think creatives will still have the upper hand
It's like people are so damaged by opening loot boxes they want to do the same thing with what they create. Grant how do you fare on the industry side of things? Do you prefer just doing videos now? I feel like more and more professionals are turning to make their own tutorials and courses looking for a transition out of art. I am going to Uni next year for character art and have no idea if I will have a job after. thanks!
I love creating stuff but my role seems to be more as an educator
Regardless of the creative tools, like AI, that are released in the future, I will look to Grant for artistic inspiration, encouragement, and his caring, compassionate humanity!
Thanks
It IS terrifying... The only solution: try to implement AI in your workflow and learn new AI functions of 3D as quickly as possible
Maybe but I respect people that dont
My pessimistic side says governments will come out and say -Hey Look you are redundant now and we offer you universal income so that you will get a certain standard of living and continue being creative. Looks good on the table but the definition of that standard could be limiting how we live our lives whereas it doesn't for the elite. Interesting oddities
It looks as impressive as it seems unstoppable. I have mixed feelings about AI because of how disruptive it is but the tech is a revolution, there's no doubt about that. We don't know yet if these algorithms are nearing their point of diminishing returns though. If it takes, say, 100x the processing power (and 100x the cost) to get rid of the few remaining incoherences and hallucinations in Sora, i'm pretty sure that many studios will think twice about getting rid of their technical artists. Well, maybe they won't.. but they should. I mean, nobody will want to see AI glitches in a video game they paid 80 bucks for example, which is perfectly understandable.
yes i agree
I can say, as someone who has three art degrees and has struggled for years to break into the industry with very little luck, I had to realize that it just wasn't in the cards for me, and the emergence of this AI generative technology was the final nail in the coffin. I had to ask myself a really simple yet difficult question. At the the end of the day do I want Art to be my passion or do I want it to be my job? I've had graphic design jobs where I wasn't enjoying what I was working on, at least not nearly as much as my own personal projects. So earlier this year I decided to go back to school for engineering. I'm no longer interested in pursuing a career in art, especially with how fickle the industry has been recently with massive layoffs happening across the board. I'll always enjoy making art and I'll never stop, but I think a lot of artists need to ask themselves that same hard question. Is this really something you want to do for a career and do you really think you'll be able to develop the skills to stand above the rest, especially now that you have so much more to compete with?
I had the exact same thoughts, solution I came up with. If you can't beat them join them. Use it as a tool, although alot of people think "anyone" will be able to use these tools, the reality is no. There will always be those who can't.
I hit the same conclusion in the past year of layoffs. Aside from a hectic personal life every job application I've sent out looking for entry level work in the games industry has gone into the void. My attempts to get into the industry haven't been perfect, but they've been consistent and the best I could possibly muster in the circumstances. It's only going to get worse next year with all the studio closures and at the end of the day, it feels like it's time to call it quits.
But the nice thing is, Unreal isn't going anywhere. That's a professional tool you won't have to pay a cent on until you make real money. But even if it did vanish? In a truly catastrophic situation where every big game engine becomes unavailable once again, we still have TheForge, RayLib, OGRE, and GODOT, among others-- open source projects that allow creators to get creating on their own. Some require technical knowhow to build the fundamental game concepts outside of the renderer, but others give you all the tools you need. Heck, we even have Dreamworks' MoonRay renderer now. We have the unprecedented power to pursue this field on our own time and money, and we're a well planned few shopping sprees away from having access to high quality tools like the Substance Suite, Spine2D, and so on. It's never been a better time to be indie and work on art as your sidegig, and the professional industry is only getting worse.
@@NicCrimson I had that thought too. I’m sure at some point in my artistic pursuits I’ll use it to speed up or enhance some aspects of my workflow. I already use ChatGPT to help me with my engineering studies so I’m not against using these technologies in general.
@@anchorlightforge 100 percent. As long as there’s tools out there that allow you to do this kind of work on your own time and dime, I’ll always be making 3D art. Who knows, maybe even Blender Game Engine will make a comeback 😂
This AI technology doesn't help people to create, people help AI to create. This AI technology doesn't help humans create, but humans help AI to create products, sacrificing their ability to develop their own creativity.
a few years ago, when AI pictures started showing up, I just gave up making art, because I know sooner or later, you start getting 3d models. No point in making a carrier or a hubby out of it anymore.
Honestly I think I've gained a new phobia, cus like those AI videos are real creepy...
I have a problem with drawing; I'm still learning, and for now, I'm using AI a bit to generate images that help me with modeling. I like creating animations, and if AI takes away this fun, I'll be furious. Although artificial intelligence can be helpful, the thought that it could replace the unique pleasure and personal touch in animation is disturbing, if not downright outrageous.
Interesting video! These technologies still have major limitations, namely: consistency and control. Nobody will be interested in using them professionally if they do not provide a sufficient degree of control over the finished product. They may be used in pipelines that already exist, but on their own they are nowhere near production-ready.
Moreover, they are always very tied to the initial training set and we do not know their real ability to diverge from it to create new combinations and new ideas that 'work'. If I have to generate thousands of videos or images and then waste my time selecting the one that I think works, then I'd rather create it myself, right?
indeed
I sort of hate to like this video because it will mean a surge of AI related videos in my recommendations. So just know that I'm taking one for the team by liking it since I do appreciate your discussion of the issues here. 😃 Beyond that, I think that working to solve the "why can't we all just be creators without it having to necessarily be our career?" problem is a good starting point. I have a lot to say about that, but then so do a lot of people, so I'll leave it there for now. Your channel is one of the good ones. Thanks and keep up the good work.
I appreciate that 😀
The funny thing is, this is the best of the worst we will see of SORA. Basically it will only improve from here, and quickly I think. Scary to think where it will be in just one more year.
The promising thing is despite how good it's gotten, there are still massive tells. Legs are still sprouting from nowhere, light is still omnidirection, cars are morphing into people. If you're paying attention, it's still bad, BUT it works as disposable content: stuff you don't actually care about. So I do think AI is going to be used for throwaway content: ads, memes, videos. But I dont think something that gets worse the longer you look at it is going to be appreciated, not in an artistic sense. For the realism AI is amazing at, it constantly fails with consistency and intentionality.
Indeed
I'm going to make Ben Hur starring Grant Abbitt.
Definitely a hit
I was a big advocate of things like ChatGPT in the beginning, but now it's all just grotesque to me. Your question of "what is the goal?/what is this for? what am I after?" is the very thing I could not answer even with the generative help of AI. AI as a tool for science, technology, and inventing things that make the world a better place is wonderful (and not without pitfalls). But AI to dissolve the human relationship with creation is an abomination. That's the whole ball of wax- the void we all feel when deep diving into AI generated content cannot be satisfied because it is not of our making (ironically because it is "trained" on our stolen creations). The everlasting value of art has always been in the process/story leading to the final product. Without that it is an empty husk- no substance. The story of the action, technique, struggle, experimentation, existentialism, discovery, failure, etc all acting as the crucible burning off the extraneous viewpoints to reveal to the artist their vision, what they actually want to say- what's actually important to them and what they are actually capable of. Art making/creating forges one's character and identity. If humans no longer have a space to connect with the process of creation - and experiencing the evolution of self-discipline - we will lose sight of how things actually come to be and get -created- generated. Integrity of communication will be lost. This process empowers the message of the artwork and allows us to feel our stake in the world that we all collaborate on and the power we have in it and consequently the responsibility we have to it and the people it impacts. Perhaps this process, and the relationship humans have had with artifacting, is evolving. Perhaps the void is the new uncharted ocean we need set sail upon, hoping and praying that there is fertile land beyond the horizon. I just don't know. But if anyone can cast Dumbledore-grade spells now without graduating from Hogwarts, what kind of world will that be?