Choosing the RIGHT SHORT PATCHES to make your strings SOUND REAL

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  • After their journey through the universe of different short string articulations (part 1), pro cellist Clara and Alex choose suitable short string playing techniques for Alex’ newest composition. Equipped with that knowledge, Alex arranges his piece for the entire string section and faces the challenge of selecting different fitting short string articulations for the violins, the violas and the double basses accordingly.
    Virtual Orchestration is a collaboration between Berklee College of Music (Boston, USA) and Orchestral Tools (Berlin, Germany).
    A big warm thank you to Clara Baesecke and her cello 🎻 for supporting us on this episode.
    More info on her and her Ensemble Mosatrïc here: www.mosatric.com
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    Video creation credits:
    Script / video concept 📜 : Alex Lamy, Eduard Flemmer
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ความคิดเห็น • 44

  • @michaelhackethal8187
    @michaelhackethal8187 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Dear Alex, thank you for letting me sit in with you and Clara. I felt like being with you in the room. It gave me so much motivation and a new focus on details. Were it not for my advanced age, I'd try and do whatever I could to study this material myself at a university. These discussions are so enlightening. Very well done! Keep going and all the best for you and your projects!

  • @BrettWMcCoy
    @BrettWMcCoy ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It's really cool to see how this gets worked out with a live player. There's always a temptation to overuse shorts when doing mockups and it can get repetitive ... using variations like you did really helps the music breathe and feel more expressive.

  • @felipemorenomusic
    @felipemorenomusic ปีที่แล้ว +8

    0:26 Intro
    0:46 Staccato, spiccato
    2:35 Trills, Marcato
    4:01 Staccato, portato short, marcato short
    6:04 Spiccato, ricochet
    8:08 Staccato, marcato, portato L and S
    9:29 Staccato, marcato, spiccato
    11:07 Whole piece
    12:20 Programing intro
    12:41 Cello programing
    14:29 Vlns, Vlas programing
    15:32 Dbass programing
    16:32 Whole piece
    Great video!! I definitely will have to check it again!

  • @JoeKataldo
    @JoeKataldo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best way to learn how to make mock-ups. Some of the confusion comes from the fact that sample library companies often call spiccato the shortest staccato articulation (staccatissimo), and mislabel other articulations too. This is why learning how to write for live musicians first, will improve your mock-ups.

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว

      100%. Sampled spiccato is almost its own category now, just trying to get louder and shorter and edgier than would ever be possible in a passage in real life. There's nothing wrong with that, but being aware that it's not a 'realistic' sound is a good thing, and does help you put realism into your music elsewhere.

  • @Gaby-Lopez
    @Gaby-Lopez ปีที่แล้ว +2

    good for Clara! and good piece of music!

  • @Immersed_Dimensions
    @Immersed_Dimensions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes indeed

  • @ridgero
    @ridgero ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dear Alex, this channel is wonderful, thanks to you and your team for your great effort! Clara is a wonderful cellist, wow. The content compilation of this channel is so good, very well edited, very humorous and authentic. I especially like that you illustrate the technical stuff very well graphically besides playing it. I appreciate everything very much

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, it's great to hear that - it makes us very happy that it all comes across well!

  • @anatomicallymodernhuman5175
    @anatomicallymodernhuman5175 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helpful.

  • @andrewwainwright8818
    @andrewwainwright8818 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video! Which string library were you using?

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Berlin Strings mainly, with some Metropolis Ark 4 and Berlin Symphonic Strings for the Basses

  • @PaulieDC
    @PaulieDC ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This doesn't help Alex. At this point I'm going to sell everything, buy great mics and just hire Clara. 🤣

  • @ChiefZika
    @ChiefZika ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Haven't seen the vid yet, but this came in at a very good time lol, I've been working on a mock-up and was wondering if I was using the right shorts.
    Edit: Good video. Very cool arrangement by the way, I especially liked the percussive hits on the basses using col legno and ricochet! Didn't know that was possible.

  • @BrettWMcCoy
    @BrettWMcCoy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wrote some "metal music for cello" once, and I could see that the guys in the orchestra playing it were totally headbanging 😀

  • @cherrysound
    @cherrysound ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing lesson! Thank you so much! And great piece of music too! 🎉

  • @मंजू-त7च
    @मंजू-त7च ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank You Very Much!
    🙂🙏

  • @aaronbird9437
    @aaronbird9437 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great piece of music! Clara is amazing! And I'm learning things I didn't know i needed to learn.... thank you!

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! And yes, Clara is awesome!

  • @KennethGonzalez
    @KennethGonzalez ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a fabulous demonstration video. It provides real insight into the interplay between composer and performer, especially when it comes to vetting the composer's intentions. I've really enjoyed this series and the channel overall! Thank you so much 👍😁👍

  • @val_de_mez
    @val_de_mez ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great as always. Also you guys have great chemistry. Thanks for the video!

  • @thinkingfield
    @thinkingfield ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video! I am not sure Clara knows just how metal it was to put in that measure of ricochet notes!! Brutal skipping. But maybe she does know!! 🤘

  • @omarirm
    @omarirm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wowwww great, great work!!! Thanks!

  • @yaroslav_kniazev
    @yaroslav_kniazev ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello guys!
    As always informative, clear and interesting!
    Thanks for the lessons, good luck!

  • @GetPianoLessons
    @GetPianoLessons ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What digital source are you using for the cello sounds on your keyboard? Is that the Berlin strings product?

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, Cellos was mainly using Berlin Strings with a little bit from Metropolis Ark 4, the Berlin Strings expansions, and then some of Berlin Symphonic Strings for the Basses.

  • @JESSEROYAL
    @JESSEROYAL ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that piece! Inspiring to watch it all come together! Sounds great

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Was really fun to do it!

  • @christock1973
    @christock1973 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for the amazing video - would have loved to hear mockup with live cello mixed in

    • @virtual.orchestration
      @virtual.orchestration  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for your appreciation. And yeah, we have that just at the end of the legato video.

  • @gotmoresoul
    @gotmoresoul ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Clara's awesome

  • @mavrosmusic
    @mavrosmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Again great video and an inspiring piece of music. I was slightly confused about your notation. Although you make it clear by adding the word Marcato above the staff, I thought it is usually notated with a vertical wedge whereas the one you are using, the horizontal wedge, is used to notate an accent. In most virtual libraries you only have Marcato samples and maybe Sforzando. If you would use a scoring software instead of Logic it is import however to make the difference between the two wedge types as the accent will probably result in a louder note (both for long and short) with higher velocity and the Marcato wedge will evoke the marcato sample for the notes with the wedge on it. Adding Marcato above or below the staff will in most scoring programs overwrite the wedge type used however.

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting! I’m sure there are times where the vertical symbol is used, but I don’t commonly see it in scores, especially in film music. In most cases the accent on a long note is going to indicate what you want to the player - along with the type of music. Maybe if there was a stylised piece going between staccato and marcato with other accents then it would make a lot of sense to use both markings. Otherwise I’d probably actually use the word marcato in a score, over the vertical wedges. It’s quite a good solution for notation programs dealing with different samples though!

    • @mavrosmusic
      @mavrosmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have a look at the John Williams scores for Star Wars and Harry Potter. Both the vertical and horizontal wedges are used to great extend sometimes accompanied by the indication Marc. which is also used without any wedges which leaves a lot of room for interpretation.

  • @Crimzan4
    @Crimzan4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loving the series!!
    I have recently bought Berlin Strings. Did you do the ricochet section in the celli using the Spiccato Serial Articulation?? It sounds impressive!

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Actually I used Metropolis Ark 4 for the Ricochets. I think I did use the Spiccato Serial Articulation in the violins there as well. It's a great, realistic sounding patch for when you have constant patterns of short notes.

    • @Crimzan4
      @Crimzan4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alexlamymusic Ah okay great, thank you for the info! Love how well these different libraries blend together!

    • @walman9356
      @walman9356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexlamymusic I wonder how that worked out since Ark 4's Celi comes with Basses baked into it an octave lower.

    • @alexlamymusic
      @alexlamymusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@walman9356 I used the Mid Strings for the Cello ricochets, they’re not in octaves. It’s probably hard to see but if you full screen the last bit of the video the track labels show the patch names. BS = Berlin Strings, MA4 = Metropolis Ark 4, and so on.

    • @walman9356
      @walman9356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@alexlamymusic I appreciate the clarification this is really helpful!