Solid Review, i love my DR, I've put 6K on mine, its my fun after work ride. Mine is jetted along with same pipe, left the gearing. It will wheelie, and has great 50 - 80 speed. Gauges are straight out of the 70's, along with the seat. Bike is fun on the trails,feels like a heavy WR , way more torque, less jumpable. On the street its amazing, lots of torque, quick off the line & strong thru 4 gear, loafs along at 65 getting 47 MPG, tho stock tank is small for any outback, and as he said the seat is a great upgrade. I have my Harley for the long pulls, but i find myself riding this way more than i thot. Amazing reliability, Cheapest Bike to own. Even the hardcore bikers i ride with like to trade me and Boom they are back being 16, on a gravel road or light trail, reminds them of the reason they started riding.
Enjoyed mine! Rode it on the street far more than on the dirt. Bike was flickable (is that even a word?) going thru the twisties. This after coming from a Softail and a Connie. Yeah. 16 again!
I went from Windsor Ontario to Banf and Jasper parks on a bike. 5,500 miles in 18 days. I could not imagine doing that trip without some kind of windshield. Count me out on the no windshield mod. Oh, great video!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Kevin Nash Thanks man. I know that I'm in the minority about the windshield. I just really love the wide open feel of a bike and find windshields rob me of that. Sometimes I like going to the states just so I can ride with no helmet even. Don't tell the safety police though. Lol
honestly i like the DR way more on the highway. freeway speed gives mea deathrattle on klr dr is butter smooth. yeah it needs a seat and a tank. easy peasy
I agree. The engine on the DR is better than the KLR. It runs up to 100mph smoothly, where the KLR feels like it doesn't like being revved that high. Feels like you are abusing it when you do that, and the DR feels like it's no bother. And the DR is super stable. I can stand up on it at 80mph while right next to a semi truck, and it is rock solid. On dirt roads the KLR feels squirrely above 70mph, but I have ran the DR up to 90 on dirt roads and it is stable. Put a bigger tank, and better seat on the DR, and skip the KLR. Plus the KLR will always weigh a ton more no matter what you spend.
No frills, just straight talk. I thought it was a very fair evaluation. You're the only person, other than me, that I've heard say they didn't have a problem with the suspension. It's not a moto cross bike and it isn't going to feel like one. I don't understand why folks don't get that. If someone wants a perfect bike for dirt, that's also perfect for the road, then they need to buy 2 bikes. Something has to be compromised. Thanks for the video. "Thumbs up" from this Kentucky boy.
Great review man... I bought my DR new in May this year. I've put the same 20L Acerbis tank, Seat Concepts Super Grip foam and cover kit and tossed out the OEM which was Japanese torture. Those are the first two essential mods. Then I dropped the pegs with JNS lowered pegs which drop and inch lower and back. I've added some protection to the bike: hand guards, case savers, master brake cylinder cover and a plastic Acerbis bash plate which is fantastic. It doesn't amplify the engine sound up like metal skid plates, it's lighter, twice as thick and easy to slide over stumps, logs and rocks. You don't hear the ping, ping of rocks off road either. I changed the headlight as well with a Baja Designs Squadron Pro which puts out 4,000 lumen and looks great. It really lights up trails and FSRs. I run them on high beam at night and haven't had anyone flick me their full beams yet as they are more of a spot than a wide spread. You can alter the low beam to whatever you want. I'm loving the bike. It's awesome off road. I don't have much to compare with my riding experience to be honest. I got my license last year and ran a CB500X which was a nice bike, but rubbish off road in stock configuration. Next mods will be jetting the carb and raising the handlebars for comfort. Everything in this video review is spot on. For tires I'd suggest going with Motoz GPS Tractionator. They can be flipped around to get a full off road tread or run as a 50/50 tire with excellent tread life and great road manners. They'll be the ones I switch the OEMs for in a couple thousand kms. Highway performance is decent if you're happy to travel between 100-130 kmh. I haven't put a screen on and have no plans to do so. If you want to see photos, look up @motozingaro on IG
I love my DR650! Every time i ride it, i actually smile I have the same tire setup as you.. i really have no issue with the D606 on the highway or roads.. maybe because i don't push it in the corners because i know the D606 is no street performance tire.. as far as my Pirelli Mt21 front. It does give a buzz at speeds of 70 plus mph but that's to be expected with aggressive tread. I also have the FMF Q4 and ProCycles full suspension upgrade front and rear.. made a world of difference offroad. Very pleased with it.
Thanks for the great overview and brief comparison between 2 of the most sought after overlander motorcycles, i.e. the KLR 650 and DR 650 :) Subscribed!!
I have a KLR650 and have wanted more in the dirt because it is heavy. I'm in my 50's now. I love the wheelies but don't like popping the clutch. I'm thinking about a DRZ400 but it would be a second bike. Because I love my KLR650. I really like your review and think that you did a great job at explaining everything.
FYI, the taillight does not like washboard roads and will soon be aiming at your license plate. I had to replace two taillights before I realized that the DRZ250 taillight snaps perfectly into the DR650 fender and plugs in the same as the OEM. It actually looks better as well.
BIG THX for the Review Sixth, I own a 2015 KLR here in Calgary. Which I'm going offer for sale, a perspective buyer was asking me about the differences between our two bikes, so I recommended he watch this video. I'd like to meet you one day, whenever I find myself in Lloyd. - Angel (Calgary Girl Rider)
I went Victoria to St. John's and back on a 17,000 km ride last summer on my DR. I modified my seat with an old life jacket and gorilla tape and did 1000km every day on the way home. Pad each side to make the seat wider, and a slightly higher, and leave a groove for your tailbone so there's no spinal pressure and cover it with a mesh cover from eBay for about $20. That seat and 20 litre Acerbis tank which gives more or less 400km highway range are the only real changes. On a road trip I highly recommend the Conti Trail Attack 2 tires because pretty good grip on the road isn't anywhere near good enough. The most important characteristic is wet, then dry, pavement grip. The CTA2 tires don't slip even in the biggest Ontario thunderstorms made from BC wildfire ash, or the hurricane force Newfoundland winds and the front tire will easily last coast to coast to coast (I got 20,000km and changed because of some cracking rather than tread wear) and the rear gave me 14,000 km. No need for a windsceen just wear a full face helmet unless you like eating bugs while only protecting your bald spot like a Harley rider.
Like your bike, with that white tank .im debating between klr 650 but now I see your video I might go with a dr 650. Thanks so much . Good video and by the way I'm from grande prairie . 👍🏻
I own both and I use the KLR for riding on the road if there is a chance I may see gravel or dirt. I ride the DR when I'm specifically looking for dirt, gravel, or trails. Take it from me, just buy one of each!
Hi. Did you rejet yours? Air-box mod? Also: have you ever compared the DR to a KTM? I'm gettings eyes for KTM, but DR loyalists warn me I may live to regret that. Thoughts? I'm actually considering a SMC 690
Nice work, I completely agree with that very succinct summary. I have ridden both the KLR and DR and I own the KLR just because Im a kwaka fanboy. It is great for hwy but its a beast through the bush to maneuver etc. I decided to go a little klx250 for the bush trail riding work but in the future if that gets too boring I might think about doing something like the DR. Cheers.
You hit most of the points I had questions for concerning the DR, so thank you for that. I love my V Strom but am looking for less weight to go deeper into the woods and the DR400 - or 650 - seems to fit my plan. Thanks for sharing your thoughts...
One of my more recent videos where I take it on a trip, my buddy comments at how much more capable it is. It's quite remarkable even over my triumph tiger 800 xc.
I had to choose between a brand new DRZ 400 and DR 650. I remember how long I was at the dealership trying to decide! (The Honda was out just because I cant stand a red seat! WTF is Honda thinking about?) - In the end I chose the DR 650. One reason is the DRZ, although set up a bit better for the woods (and I ride trails at least 50%), I knew on the highway it would pant and gasp for air doing 70 MPH, since 77 is its top. But a DR 650 can top out over 100 MPH, so @ 70 MPH it isn't even working hard. Plus the seat...on the DR 650 it is hard as a rock...but the DRZ it is just as hard but much skinnier, making it worse! And I liked the DR 650's "no-maintainence cooling system" (air cooled). Both are good bikes, but the 650 is more for me. If you are going to spend no time on expressways, but just back roads...and 80% on the trails, then a DRZ might be the way to go.
For tires I installed a set of IRC, GP1's. They appear skinnier than the -death- trail wings, or any other tire I have seen. They grip fantastic, and they wear well on the road. However, they produce a lot of road noise, especially at higher speeds.
I agree with the tank and seat, stock gearing works better for me, The rubber thing should be left in place to protect the frame, I see no need for an aftermarket exhaust, but I wouldn't ride past the city limits without an aftermarket centerstand. Aftermarket centerstands on KLRs, DRs, and now my little XT225 have saved my ass more times than I can count. They are really the only way to repair a flat out in the middle of nowhere.
Gerald Scott The only time I have had to change a bike tire (which I suck at btw) I set my bike high centred on a fallen tree. But you are right...a centre stand would have been much better. Thanks for watching.
jelau I did it myself. Now...if you’ve watched my channel you would know that if I can do it...anyone can do it. I’m probably one of the worst mechanics on TH-cam! Thanks for commenting.
what's the klr like on long distance highway drives? meaning comfort, how are the revs, top speed etc. I want a duel sport for mainly road some offroad so klr would be my choice I think. I just sold my old xs650 and found it too small for highway barely do 120klm. hope the klr is a bit sportier than that lol
Nice. I have a 2017 DR650! Bike is awesome KLR is a way more comfortable bike on the long run. Me and my buddies went to cape cod for a ride about a 150 mile ride DR650 gets uncomfortable. With the stock seat but it does it. It freaking does it fun in the loose stuff. Love it I ride mostly road my DR. I say 70 on road and 30
I ordered the stock rack (made for the DR 650) from Suzuki and installed it (it's a tough install, have a drill ready). It looks sleeker than any after market rack, but is much smaller. It weighs probably 3 or 4 pounds though, as it is steel, not aluminum. But it is very functional. Recommended -
You mentioned the seat was great if you're short... How tall are you? I'm looking to get a bike and I'm 5'7" I hear the DR is better than the DRZ 400 for this reason, plus I plan on more highway than dirt.
I'm about the same as you...maybe 1/2 an inch taller. You can also mod the suspension to lower the bike as well if you are still feeling uncomfortable. (has a lowering link in the rear suspension, and you can raise the front shocks in the clams by 1/2 and inch.)
I found the D606 virtually unusable on the road. First, it squirms like crazy around corners, and makes you feel like you are about to crash. They also don't last very long on street or dirt. I would consider them nearly a 100% dirt tire. I found the stock gearing fine off road, a little low on the highway, but I don't ride it like a crotch rocket so I'll leave it alone for now. The tank and seat are must haves, I saw no reason to replace the stock exhaust. It does need to be rejetted a little richer if you ride mostly at low altitude. Fortunately it still has a carb. Probably the most important mod I've done to mine so far was to install an SW Motech centerstand. I have had 3 flats so far, and would have been stranded if not for that centerstand. I have now replaced the tubes with those super thick heavy duty 4mm tubes from rockymountainatv.com but an occasional flat is still going to happen. Considering that I ride 50+ miles out into the AZ desert by myself, a flat could be fatal without that centerstand.
You do get used to the tires quickly. I just recently returned from a trip where I did 870 kms there, and 870 kms back on the d 606 in the back and the pirelli mt21 on the front and when I was in BC I was leaning over pretty heavy, or at least as heavy as I do on any other bike, and while neither the steering nor the slightly marble y feeling from the tires was confidence inspiring, once you got used to it, you realize that it's going to stick no matter what you do with it. The tires made over 2000 kms on highway and hard hill climbing trails that trip, and still have quite a bit of life left in them. I do have to say, that the tooth drop was almost essential on the dirt, but I could have used that extra tooth on the highway as I think I worked the old girl a little hard. I did get it up to 155 on the garmin gps unit though!!! lol (unfortunately, I also experienced some oil seepage from the top of the engine...ooops) I absolutely love the sound of the exhaust, and any weight savings on the bush pig are welcome, but my buddy uses the stock muffler and likes that he didn't have to play around with the carb. Thanks for weighing in.
Stock exhaust = terribly restrictive so Suzuki could pass emissions with an air cooled carborated engine...plus heavy. It's 12 pounds and a Suzuki Gixxer 600 muffler is half the weight and not restrictive.
Surprised to read that you did not like the D606 tires. I have used with these tires exclusively after my initial offroad ride (36,000 miles ago) with the horrible trailwings. The 606's sing a little on pavement but are excellent offroad and provide pretty good grip on dry pavement. Probably 75% of my riding is on pavement. The DR must be geared down to ride trails, the stock gearing is good for 100+ mph. I have had a few punctures offroad and would never consider a center stand. I have used stumps, rocks and once a ditch to lift the rear wheel off the ground.
I can't be bais either way as own KLR 650 and DR 650. KLR tires are set up for street adventure riding and DR aggressive dirt bike. KLR 650 better all around bike and great on long rides. I picked used 2013 KLR for 2000 usd and 2009 DR for 1200 usd. Got lucky on cheap finds both bikes amazing.
Idk about forks but there’s a lot of aftermarket rear shocks that are adjustable for most models and tires are the cheapest means for road feel get ones that are less aggressive maybe
This is from Australian website MADE IN ITALY Macchi now oversees production at SWM’s manufacturing facility in Lombardia, Italy. Formally occupied by Husqvarna, the plant recently benefited from a major refurbishment under the watch of BMW prior to the sale of Husqvarana to KTM.The Lombardia manufacturing facility is now wholly owned by SWM.SWM officially announced the revival of the brand at EICMA 2014. Production quickly commenced after the event with production of the first RS650’s taking place in July 2015. As the RS models are based on the Husqvarna design, SWM has been quick to gear up production and 1,500 vehicles are set to manufactured in the first year with 6,000 forecasted for 2016. A global importer network has been quickly established by calling on relationships with ex-Husqvarna importers - in fact the majority of European importer network are ex Husky.
49% owned by a Chinese company, but still built , designed and made in Italy , with the exception of the plastics and some other minor parts. here is some interesting info you may what to know ( about the BWM 650 GS ) The China connection is provided by the present 650cc single (used in the G650GS). The engine is built at the Loncin factory. From there engines are shipped to Germany (where they are used for the European and US market G650GS) also Harley does have many USA factories, but they admit they have a factory in India for that market, making smaller bikes like there street 500 & 750. The KTM 390 is made in China ,Benelli now is made in China ,Yamaha for the US market come mainly from either Taiwan or China ( with some of there bikes ) Although they all have JYA at the front of the VIN, the plant code is different. Also a lot of smaller Suzuki motorcycle 250,s and below are now made in China ( this is just the tip of the ice burg ) almost ALL manufactures make some of there parts in china now, Moto Guzzi seems to be one of the few manufactures that makes all there bikes in Italy.(all manufactures are trying to stay competive production costs )
Neil Lawday I Agee , the the DR is old outdated technology, with typical poor suspension you need to upgrade, and let’s not forget a low powered carburettor 20 HP less then the SWM , yes the SWM has Brembo brakes , Sach suspension, fuel Injection, and the SWM Superdual comes standard with , crash bars , rear rack , screen , 18 lt tank , 12 volt socket, centre stand , bash plate ( most of this you need to buy for the DR - making it more expensive ) so I agree doesn’t even come close to the SWM on performance, suspension, brakes , handling and stranded equipment. One I forgot has a 6 speed gearbox as well , we’re DR is only
OVERCOME8 no on the sprocket as long as it’s only one tooth. 1 in the front is the same as 2 in the rear. , yes on the carb. The bike would fall on its face at idle and backfire a lot.
Dee G I had them made at a local shop. Unfortunately...they don't work. I guess that tank doesn't allow stickers. No matter what you do...they will blister and bubble.
Boom Bero I don't think I can remember. If I had to guess I'd say under 200 each. I also changed the exhaust, and modded the air box. Oh yeah rejetted the bike also.
Steve Hargis It's my favourite between that and the seargent. It's not quite as comfortable as a road bikes' seat, but very close. In my opinion about as good as you are going to get considering that it has less foam than most.
becouse i'm messing arounf with dynojet,and can't get my optimal settings,readed tons of topics,it rides like stock,there is no drastic changes with dyno jet kit,intsruction are crap,just basic info,,,,like i'm watching Aventure OZ videos and cant believe how they Fck do wheeles,mine just do not pull front no matter how i try.I like DR,have two of them,very good builded bike,simple and relialiable.Thank's for reply:)
l pass most KLR's on the road.. My 2016 DR650SE has been armed, yet no stage work, all stock in that dept. Love my hard seat!! l imagine spankings growing up prepared me, ha, ha... KLR's to heavy, liquid cooled, too much to damage if you drop it...
I wish pa would ket me register my cr125 .... unfortunately you can only ride street legal enduros, and registered atvs on our trails ... we are trying to change it though
So basically, the DR can be modded to be better on the highway, but the KLR is too heavy and clumsy for off-road? Plus the DR is lots nippier with a less "un"-powerful engine? So, lighter, faster, stronger and nimbler than the KLR... Hmm... now let's see which one I want...
DR is way better on the highway. Much more smooth and stable and more umph on the top. Make a trash can windscreen and get some tank saddlebags. Now you have a bit of storage and wind protection. Get a 5 dollar gas can.
Well I have one bike that will do better than both , it does dirt better than the DR and road better than the KLR ,its comes with 6 speed fuel injection standard , hand guards ,crash bars ,bash plate , screen , 12 volt outlet, rear rack and even a centerstand as standard and 19 lt tank with a fuel range over 400kms , all at 169kg wet ." its the SWM 650 Superdual " Brembo Brakes and Sach Suspension. ( Only money you need to spend is Heated grips and better seat is you like more comfort ) ( rebadged Husky TE630) Regards Paul from Australia
Paul Chidgey That is a better bike! I'm not sure about there, but when we had that bike here, you could almost buy 2 of these for the price of one of those. Thanks for weighing in.
Price in US dollars would be about 8500,00 ( fully kitted out as standard ) " also has cush drive as well " A DR in US dollars is around $ 5500 ? and then your up for at least another 2 for suspension upgrades ,seat, tank , etc etc ! I had mine has done 5000kms of at least 50% off road and some pretty narley stuff. 2 Aussies rode from the UK to Mongolia last year on two SWM 650 Superduals over 20,000kms, with little problems. A lot of Pig owners in Australia are being converted. Dr,s are old tech now - don't get me wrong they are a reliable bike that does on and off road well ( but nothing great ) were the S/D does off road great - as it is an Adventurised Husky TE 630 ( or now SWM 650 RS ) and road is very good. With Euro 4 being in not sure how much longer the DR or KLR with be able to survive without fuel injection.
SWM is being certified by Transport Canada for this spring of this year. Pricing looks to be around $10,500 to $12,000 Canadian for the Superduals. They look like a nice bike, all the right features and decent power, but being Chinese made they might have a hard time selling them. I will definitely be taking a look.
You have it wrong they are made in Italy, In the same plant were they used to make Husqvarna, prior to being brought by KTM then sold by BMW to them. The Husky designer of the pre- 2013 models brought the SWM name and then approached one of the largest Chinese motorcycle manufactures in china for the finical backing ( they have a 49% share holding ) but the same workers and designees went back to work in 2013 to make the same bike under a different name, Only Chinese parts are the plastics and some other parts. Engines, frame, Suspension, brakes ,wheels, all made in Italy . Check out the Australian reviews on the web ( as are in English or UK ones )
Wdym needs mods to be as good as the klr on the highway bahah my 2020dr650 is stock beside pirelly rally cross tires an a 2nd hole drilled in the slide an its smashes my uncles klr 650 that heas heaps more stuff done to it an to say that the klr can do just as much on the dirt is not true at all maybe if your a novice rider who cant do hardcore hill climbs an single lines but ill tell u right now I cant pivet turn a klr or really turn on the back wheel. Where as the dr is easy to man handle if u want to. An if u have a bigger tank an nice wide seat its way better than the klr on the road to . I doubt u could put motards on klr an keep up with me on the road unless your wayne Gardner. An i dont even have my suspension done or anything so ye theres not much comparison to the dr if u want to do more harder riding an that sort of stuff even just on slippery surfaces the klr is way worse to keep control just bc of the seating position compared to the dr.iv got a yz450 to an I reckon im not that much slower through the bush on the dr compared to that. The klr is a underpowered overweight shit box that is only good for older people to do adventure riding on if yora young whipper snapper like me 17 an have grown up in dirtbikes then you'll want to go for the dr
An ive done big jumps an frapped around but ive never had my stand cut my engine of these are just wifes tales maybe if your bike if worn out asf it might come down but it would have to be pretty worn to do that
Im not tryna make u out to be an idiot or anything just voicing my opinion for every else to see bc I dont agree with some of the things u said an ive been riding for 14years so im not just som weekend rider I eat sleep an breath bikes
was thinking of buying a bike then saw the zuki with no screen and imagined myself being hit with the cold and eyes getting dry.Now i know why everyone likes the KLR
KLR is about 70 pounds heavier than the DR650 and wait till you tip the KLR in the dirt and wipe out a $200 piece of plastic. To me the plastics on the KLR ruin the bike unless you are highway only and then why buy an enduro? I much preferred the earlier KLR with only a small windscreen. KLR is reliable but after owing 150 bikes my opinion is that Kawasaki went backwards putting all of the fairings on the newer KLR's. I much prefer the simplicity of the DR650 or First Generation KLR.
i tried klr too heavy..dr650 quite occay..but my best bet is Xr650L light nimble bulletproof engine..too happy riding i bought it 2 unit..happy rider/adventure
Ram, truck of the year again, Ram is now out selling Chevy trucks, so its 2nd in sales to Ford, Rams interior is FAR superior to the other two, its chassis is more rigid then the other two, better fuel economy, offer Cummins... nuff said. Don't believe me google it and go test drive one. I have owned Ford and Chevy trucks.. heard from others what i am telling you. I test drove one and never looked back. That's the truth.
Wdym needs mods to be as good as the klr on the highway bahah my 2020dr650 is stock beside pirelly rally cross tires an a 2nd hole drilled in the slide an its smashes my uncles klr 650 that heas heaps more stuff done to it an to say that the klr can do just as much on the dirt is not true at all maybe if your a novice rider who cant do hardcore hill climbs an single lines but ill tell u right now I cant pivet turn a klr or really turn on the back wheel. Where as the dr is easy to man handle if u want to. An if u have a bigger tank an nice wide seat its way better than the klr on the road to . I doubt u could put motards on klr an keep up with me on the road unless your wayne Gardner. An i dont even have my suspension done or anything so ye theres not much comparison to the dr if u want to do more harder riding an that sort of stuff even just on slippery surfaces the klr is way worse to keep control just bc of the seating position compared to the dr.iv got a yz450 to an I reckon im not that much slower through the bush on the dr compared to that. The klr is a underpowered overweight shit box that is only good for older people to do adventure riding on
Phenomenal review, you succinctly put in 3 minutes what these clowns called motovloggers cant in 30 minutes. Kudos
Supernova12034 Appreciate the positive review man! Hope you subscribe and watch some more. Cheers.
Solid Review, i love my DR, I've put 6K on mine, its my fun after work ride. Mine is jetted along with same pipe, left the gearing. It will wheelie, and has great 50 - 80 speed. Gauges are straight out of the 70's, along with the seat. Bike is fun on the trails,feels like a heavy WR , way more torque, less jumpable. On the street its amazing, lots of torque, quick off the line & strong thru 4 gear, loafs along at 65 getting 47 MPG, tho stock tank is small for any outback, and as he said the seat is a great upgrade. I have my Harley for the long pulls, but i find myself riding this way more than i thot. Amazing reliability, Cheapest Bike to own. Even the hardcore bikers i ride with like to trade me and Boom they are back being 16, on a gravel road or light trail, reminds them of the reason they started riding.
Dave G. Thanks for the words man.
Enjoyed mine! Rode it on the street far more than on the dirt. Bike was flickable (is that even a word?) going thru the twisties. This after coming from a Softail and a Connie. Yeah. 16 again!
very good review without alot of B.S., straight to the issues
I think it comes with power windows and doorlocks
Appreciate the honest comparison between the Suzuki & Kawasaki. No doubt each good bikes depending on usage.
Larry J That would be exactly true. Thanks for the comments.
Thanks for your time, I just bought the KLR--New and have no regrets
I went from Windsor Ontario to Banf and Jasper parks on a bike. 5,500 miles in 18 days. I could not imagine doing that trip without some kind of windshield. Count me out on the no windshield mod.
Oh, great video!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Kevin Nash Thanks man. I know that I'm in the minority about the windshield. I just really love the wide open feel of a bike and find windshields rob me of that. Sometimes I like going to the states just so I can ride with no helmet even. Don't tell the safety police though. Lol
honestly i like the DR way more on the highway. freeway speed gives mea deathrattle on klr dr is butter smooth. yeah it needs a seat and a tank. easy peasy
I agree. The engine on the DR is better than the KLR. It runs up to 100mph smoothly, where the KLR feels like it doesn't like being revved that high. Feels like you are abusing it when you do that, and the DR feels like it's no bother. And the DR is super stable. I can stand up on it at 80mph while right next to a semi truck, and it is rock solid. On dirt roads the KLR feels squirrely above 70mph, but I have ran the DR up to 90 on dirt roads and it is stable. Put a bigger tank, and better seat on the DR, and skip the KLR. Plus the KLR will always weigh a ton more no matter what you spend.
No frills, just straight talk. I thought it was a very fair evaluation. You're the only person, other than me, that I've heard say they didn't have a problem with the suspension. It's not a moto cross bike and it isn't going to feel like one. I don't understand why folks don't get that. If someone wants a perfect bike for dirt, that's also perfect for the road, then they need to buy 2 bikes. Something has to be compromised. Thanks for the video. "Thumbs up" from this Kentucky boy.
Kentucky Justice Thanks for the comments. Keep riding Kentucky!
Great review man... I bought my DR new in May this year. I've put the same 20L Acerbis tank, Seat Concepts Super Grip foam and cover kit and tossed out the OEM which was Japanese torture. Those are the first two essential mods. Then I dropped the pegs with JNS lowered pegs which drop and inch lower and back. I've added some protection to the bike: hand guards, case savers, master brake cylinder cover and a plastic Acerbis bash plate which is fantastic. It doesn't amplify the engine sound up like metal skid plates, it's lighter, twice as thick and easy to slide over stumps, logs and rocks. You don't hear the ping, ping of rocks off road either. I changed the headlight as well with a Baja Designs Squadron Pro which puts out 4,000 lumen and looks great. It really lights up trails and FSRs. I run them on high beam at night and haven't had anyone flick me their full beams yet as they are more of a spot than a wide spread. You can alter the low beam to whatever you want. I'm loving the bike. It's awesome off road. I don't have much to compare with my riding experience to be honest. I got my license last year and ran a CB500X which was a nice bike, but rubbish off road in stock configuration. Next mods will be jetting the carb and raising the handlebars for comfort. Everything in this video review is spot on. For tires I'd suggest going with Motoz GPS Tractionator. They can be flipped around to get a full off road tread or run as a 50/50 tire with excellent tread life and great road manners. They'll be the ones I switch the OEMs for in a couple thousand kms. Highway performance is decent if you're happy to travel between 100-130 kmh. I haven't put a screen on and have no plans to do so. If you want to see photos, look up @motozingaro on IG
Aftaab Gulam Thanks for the comments. I know you are going to have fun with the dr.
Hey sixthisoverdrive, great honest down to earth opinions, loved it and subscribed! Thank you for sharing and God bless and stay safe!
nutz4all thanks for watching and commenting.
I love my DR650! Every time i ride it, i actually smile
I have the same tire setup as you.. i really have no issue with the D606 on the highway or roads.. maybe because i don't push it in the corners because i know the D606 is no street performance tire.. as far as my Pirelli Mt21 front. It does give a buzz at speeds of 70 plus mph but that's to be expected with aggressive tread.
I also have the FMF Q4 and ProCycles full suspension upgrade front and rear.. made a world of difference offroad.
Very pleased with it.
Johnny Turbo there was something about mine that brought a tonne of smiles as well. Thanks for the comments.
@@sixthisoverdrive 😁👍
Thanks for the great overview and brief comparison between 2 of the most sought after overlander motorcycles, i.e. the KLR 650 and DR 650 :) Subscribed!!
sidheart19 thanks man. I appreciate the views comments and subs. I look forward to seeing you back from time to time.
100% Cheers!!
I have a KLR650 and have wanted more in the dirt because it is heavy. I'm in my 50's now. I love the wheelies but don't like popping the clutch. I'm thinking about a DRZ400 but it would be a second bike. Because I love my KLR650. I really like your review and think that you did a great job at explaining everything.
Bryan The 400 would be perfect as long as you are long in the leg. Thanks for watching.
Great review... And I like the sound of that Q4.. I'll buy one if I can't find the GSXR can.
Z Shark I've been really happy with mine.
FYI, the taillight does not like washboard roads and will soon be aiming at your license plate. I had to replace two taillights before I realized that the DRZ250 taillight snaps perfectly into the DR650 fender and plugs in the same as the OEM. It actually looks better as well.
BIG THX for the Review Sixth, I own a 2015 KLR here in Calgary. Which I'm going offer for sale, a perspective buyer was asking me about the differences between our two bikes, so I recommended he watch this video. I'd like to meet you one day, whenever I find myself in Lloyd. - Angel (Calgary Girl Rider)
AngelFace MotoRider Awesome...thanks for the shout out
I went Victoria to St. John's and back on a 17,000 km ride last summer on my DR. I modified my seat with an old life jacket and gorilla tape and did 1000km every day on the way home. Pad each side to make the seat wider, and a slightly higher, and leave a groove for your tailbone so there's no spinal pressure and cover it with a mesh cover from eBay for about $20. That seat and 20 litre Acerbis tank which gives more or less 400km highway range are the only real changes. On a road trip I highly recommend the Conti Trail Attack 2 tires because pretty good grip on the road isn't anywhere near good enough. The most important characteristic is wet, then dry, pavement grip. The CTA2 tires don't slip even in the biggest Ontario thunderstorms made from BC wildfire ash, or the hurricane force Newfoundland winds and the front tire will easily last coast to coast to coast (I got 20,000km and changed because of some cracking rather than tread wear) and the rear gave me 14,000 km. No need for a windsceen just wear a full face helmet unless you like eating bugs while only protecting your bald spot like a Harley rider.
Matt Evans thanks for weighing in Matt. I have to learn to slow down on mine and get that range you get.
Like your bike, with that white tank .im debating between klr 650 but now I see your video I might go with a dr 650.
Thanks so much . Good video and by the way I'm from grande prairie . 👍🏻
Cool, I biked through last year. I also have a client there. Both bikes are great. You can't really go wrong.
I own both and I use the KLR for riding on the road if there is a chance I may see gravel or dirt. I ride the DR when I'm specifically looking for dirt, gravel, or trails. Take it from me, just buy one of each!
great video! I think the klr650 will be the bike for me
donyboy73 Can't go wrong with either one. Hope you subbed!
Very good review....I have 3 bikes and I’m thinking of getting a dr....
What I liked was an honest review..👌🏻
Peter Mcgill thanks. Hope you stick around for more.
Hi. Did you rejet yours? Air-box mod?
Also: have you ever compared the DR to a KTM? I'm gettings eyes for KTM, but DR loyalists warn me I may live to regret that. Thoughts? I'm actually considering a SMC 690
Nice work, I completely agree with that very succinct summary. I have ridden both the KLR and DR and I own the KLR just because Im a kwaka fanboy. It is great for hwy but its a beast through the bush to maneuver etc. I decided to go a little klx250 for the bush trail riding work but in the future if that gets too boring I might think about doing something like the DR. Cheers.
vercos007 Thanks for the input. it be great to have you subscribe. Still loving abusing the Dr!
You hit most of the points I had questions for concerning the DR, so thank you for that. I love my V Strom but am looking for less weight to go deeper into the woods and the DR400 - or 650 - seems to fit my plan. Thanks for sharing your thoughts...
One of my more recent videos where I take it on a trip, my buddy comments at how much more capable it is. It's quite remarkable even over my triumph tiger 800 xc.
I had to choose between a brand new DRZ 400 and DR 650. I remember how long I was at the dealership trying to decide! (The Honda was out just because I cant stand a red seat! WTF is Honda thinking about?) - In the end I chose the DR 650. One reason is the DRZ, although set up a bit better for the woods (and I ride trails at least 50%), I knew on the highway it would pant and gasp for air doing 70 MPH, since 77 is its top. But a DR 650 can top out over 100 MPH, so @ 70 MPH it isn't even working hard. Plus the seat...on the DR 650 it is hard as a rock...but the DRZ it is just as hard but much skinnier, making it worse! And I liked the DR 650's "no-maintainence cooling system" (air cooled). Both are good bikes, but the 650 is more for me. If you are going to spend no time on expressways, but just back roads...and 80% on the trails, then a DRZ might be the way to go.
Don't get a 400 they weigh almost as much as the 650 an there not any more nimble through the bush
For tires I installed a set of IRC, GP1's. They appear skinnier than the -death- trail wings, or any other tire I have seen. They grip fantastic, and they wear well on the road. However, they produce a lot of road noise, especially at higher speeds.
Thanks for the comparison
I agree with the tank and seat, stock gearing works better for me, The rubber thing should be left in place to protect the frame, I see no need for an aftermarket exhaust, but I wouldn't ride past the city limits without an aftermarket centerstand. Aftermarket centerstands on KLRs, DRs, and now my little XT225 have saved my ass more times than I can count. They are really the only way to repair a flat out in the middle of nowhere.
Gerald Scott The only time I have had to change a bike tire (which I suck at btw) I set my bike high centred on a fallen tree. But you are right...a centre stand would have been much better. Thanks for watching.
I weighed my 09 Dr650 full exhaust just an hour ago and it was 18lb!
Hi, thanks for your input on this bike, one question, did you change gas tank by yourself, and how easy or difficult was it,
jelau I did it myself. Now...if you’ve watched my channel you would know that if I can do it...anyone can do it. I’m probably one of the worst mechanics on TH-cam! Thanks for commenting.
@@sixthisoverdrive thanks for replying, Probably I took the same mechanic course you took, lol
what's the klr like on long distance highway drives?
meaning comfort, how are the revs, top speed etc.
I want a duel sport for mainly road some offroad so klr would be my choice I think.
I just sold my old xs650 and found it too small for highway barely do 120klm. hope the klr is a bit sportier than that lol
Troll Scab 120 is all I would do on any of these 650's (xr, dr, or klr) my klr burnt a lot of oil on the highway, but was the most comfortable by far.
That's why i'm getting the DR650 AND the XSR900.
J. Pardo not sure if you know this, but before my Tracer that was what I had as a duo.
Nice DR! did you keep the stock (OEM) wheels? 21" front and 17" rear?
Mike Pressley I did. I am going to sell it, so that mod will never happen I guess.
Nice. I have a 2017 DR650! Bike is awesome KLR is a way more comfortable bike on the long run. Me and my buddies went to cape cod for a ride about a 150 mile ride DR650 gets uncomfortable. With the stock seat but it does it. It freaking does it fun in the loose stuff. Love it I ride mostly road my DR. I say 70 on road and 30
Walter Reyes Good to hear from a fellow dr 650 owner. Thanks for watching.
I ordered the stock rack (made for the DR 650) from Suzuki and installed it (it's a tough install, have a drill ready). It looks sleeker than any after market rack, but is much smaller. It weighs probably 3 or 4 pounds though, as it is steel, not aluminum. But it is very functional. Recommended -
You mentioned the seat was great if you're short... How tall are you? I'm looking to get a bike and I'm 5'7" I hear the DR is better than the DRZ 400 for this reason, plus I plan on more highway than dirt.
I'm about the same as you...maybe 1/2 an inch taller. You can also mod the suspension to lower the bike as well if you are still feeling uncomfortable. (has a lowering link in the rear suspension, and you can raise the front shocks in the clams by 1/2 and inch.)
What do you think is better for adventure, in terms of have less chances of have mechanical problems on a trip?
Matt Perry like been said ;you can't go wrong with both..The DR is more biased off-road..more simple..
thnx..in this way I think The DR is maybe be the one..but again what is more convenient,which will be more worthy to change..?!#
I always say if you want to do any wheelies, jumping or tight trails the dr is your beast. if you dont need to, the klr is more comfy.
I found the D606 virtually unusable on the road. First, it squirms like crazy around corners, and makes you feel like you are about to crash. They also don't last very long on street or dirt. I would consider them nearly a 100% dirt tire. I found the stock gearing fine off road, a little low on the highway, but I don't ride it like a crotch rocket so I'll leave it alone for now. The tank and seat are must haves, I saw no reason to replace the stock exhaust. It does need to be rejetted a little richer if you ride mostly at low altitude. Fortunately it still has a carb. Probably the most important mod I've done to mine so far was to install an SW Motech centerstand. I have had 3 flats so far, and would have been stranded if not for that centerstand. I have now replaced the tubes with those super thick heavy duty 4mm tubes from rockymountainatv.com but an occasional flat is still going to happen. Considering that I ride 50+ miles out into the AZ desert by myself, a flat could be fatal without that centerstand.
You do get used to the tires quickly. I just recently returned from a trip where I did 870 kms there, and 870 kms back on the d 606 in the back and the pirelli mt21 on the front and when I was in BC I was leaning over pretty heavy, or at least as heavy as I do on any other bike, and while neither the steering nor the slightly marble y feeling from the tires was confidence inspiring, once you got used to it, you realize that it's going to stick no matter what you do with it. The tires made over 2000 kms on highway and hard hill climbing trails that trip, and still have quite a bit of life left in them. I do have to say, that the tooth drop was almost essential on the dirt, but I could have used that extra tooth on the highway as I think I worked the old girl a little hard. I did get it up to 155 on the garmin gps unit though!!! lol (unfortunately, I also experienced some oil seepage from the top of the engine...ooops) I absolutely love the sound of the exhaust, and any weight savings on the bush pig are welcome, but my buddy uses the stock muffler and likes that he didn't have to play around with the carb. Thanks for weighing in.
Stock exhaust = terribly restrictive so Suzuki could pass emissions with an air cooled carborated engine...plus heavy. It's 12 pounds and a Suzuki Gixxer 600 muffler is half the weight and not restrictive.
+Vulcan - If I were riding 50 miles in the desert, I would strap a can of fix-a-flat under the tool tube.
Surprised to read that you did not like the D606 tires. I have used with these tires exclusively after my initial offroad ride (36,000 miles ago) with the horrible trailwings. The 606's sing a little on pavement but are excellent offroad and provide pretty good grip on dry pavement. Probably 75% of my riding is on pavement. The DR must be geared down to ride trails, the stock gearing is good for 100+ mph. I have had a few punctures offroad and would never consider a center stand. I have used stumps, rocks and once a ditch to lift the rear wheel off the ground.
Is that the biggest after market tank available. Looks good
No it s not...but the 25 litre tanks are quite ugly. This one will get you pretty far if you stay at 60 mph (100 kms) or less.
I can't be bais either way as own KLR 650 and DR 650. KLR tires are set up for street adventure riding and DR aggressive dirt bike. KLR 650 better all around bike and great on long rides. I picked used 2013 KLR for 2000 usd and 2009 DR for 1200 usd. Got lucky on cheap finds both bikes amazing.
imssgmiller Thanks for weighing in.
what seat are you running again I'm looking for a good low seat
perfect i have a vstrom but would like a better off road bike and i will go for the klr thanks
Ke Pa hope you enjoy it.
Have you done long trips with the 14 tooth front sprocket .. And what MPH will she cruise at without sounding like your over revving??
Z Shark I like to stay under 120 on my gps. It will do about 130 all day, but she's working and chugging gas.
Thanks
nice vid..how can I improve The DR highway riding..?!or better go with The Green machine.!?
if you want...leave the stock gearing, put on a windscreen, big tank, and buy a nice seat. Or buy green and make it ready for dirt. lol
Idk about forks but there’s a lot of aftermarket rear shocks that are adjustable for most models and tires are the cheapest means for road feel get ones that are less aggressive maybe
I got stuck in traffic with a DR and it got so hot , the muffler set my soft luggage on fire !
Never had that with my KLR
Interesting. That’s one I haven’t heard yet. Thanks for your comments.
great vid im looking into this bike or the klr 650 excellent pov
SAPPO
Edmonton area
sappobbg Thanks. I actually got mine at Riverside in Edmonton.
hey are you in the loyd area near the border LOL ;) I think i saw the big red poles
sappobbg Yup!!!! Not much for scenery other than those poles.
Great summary dude
andrewford80 Thanks. Hope you subbed for more.
nice vid thanks. I just bought one and will be making some similar mods.
Swedish Rick I'm sure you'll enjoy it. hope to see you around the channel more.
Good info ! Thanks for the vid !
Geoffrey Carpenter Thanks for watching, hope to see you around in the future.
This is from Australian website
MADE IN ITALY
Macchi now oversees production at SWM’s manufacturing facility in Lombardia, Italy. Formally occupied by Husqvarna, the plant recently benefited from a major refurbishment under the watch of BMW prior to the sale of Husqvarana to KTM.The Lombardia manufacturing facility is now wholly owned by SWM.SWM officially announced the revival of the brand at EICMA 2014. Production quickly commenced after the event with production of the first RS650’s taking place in July 2015.
As the RS models are based on the Husqvarna design, SWM has been quick to gear up production and 1,500 vehicles are set to manufactured in the first year with 6,000 forecasted for 2016.
A global importer network has been quickly established by calling on relationships with ex-Husqvarna importers - in fact the majority of European importer network are ex Husky.
Paul Chidgey ...I think the SWM is actually being backed by China.
49% owned by a Chinese company, but still built , designed and made in Italy , with the exception of the plastics and some other minor parts.
here is some interesting info you may what to know ( about the BWM 650 GS ) The China connection is provided by the present 650cc single (used in the G650GS). The engine is built at the Loncin factory. From there engines are shipped to Germany (where they are used for the European and US market G650GS) also Harley does have many USA factories, but they admit they have a factory in India for that market, making smaller bikes like there street 500 & 750. The KTM 390 is made in China ,Benelli now is made in China ,Yamaha for the US market come mainly from either Taiwan or China ( with some of there bikes ) Although they all have JYA at the front of the VIN, the plant code is different. Also a lot of smaller Suzuki motorcycle 250,s and below are now made in China ( this is just the tip of the ice burg ) almost ALL manufactures make some of there parts in china now, Moto Guzzi seems to be one of the few manufactures that makes all there bikes in Italy.(all manufactures are trying to stay competive production costs )
I test rode an swm and bought a dr. No comparison!
Neil Lawday I Agee , the the DR is old outdated technology, with typical poor suspension you need to upgrade, and let’s not forget a low powered carburettor 20 HP less then the SWM , yes the SWM has Brembo brakes , Sach suspension, fuel Injection, and the SWM Superdual comes standard with , crash bars , rear rack , screen , 18 lt tank , 12 volt socket, centre stand , bash plate ( most of this you need to buy for the DR - making it more expensive ) so I agree doesn’t even come close to the SWM on performance, suspension, brakes , handling and stranded equipment. One I forgot has a 6 speed gearbox as well , we’re DR is only
Even with all the above I preferred the dr handling and ergonomics. The swm just didn't do it for me. Not to mention better dealer and parts support.
Do u have to replace the rear sprocket when u change the front one.
Also when u replaced the pipe did u have to do any carb work to the bike.
OVERCOME8 no on the sprocket as long as it’s only one tooth. 1 in the front is the same as 2 in the rear. , yes on the carb. The bike would fall on its face at idle and backfire a lot.
Where did you get the Suzuki tank stickers?
Dee G I had them made at a local shop. Unfortunately...they don't work. I guess that tank doesn't allow stickers. No matter what you do...they will blister and bubble.
how much was the tank and the seat sir? Whag else have u done to it. ty
Boom Bero I don't think I can remember. If I had to guess I'd say under 200 each. I also changed the exhaust, and modded the air box. Oh yeah rejetted the bike also.
What's the make of tank plse . It has nice stance . Is 25 litre tank to big
Ny Chan Acerbic is the name. I personally don't like the look of the 25 litre safari tanks.
@sixthisoverdrive how tall are you? Inseam?
30 inch inseam.
Absolutly love your bike. fantastic adv bike...
thank you.
how do you like the seat concepts low seat
Steve Hargis It's my favourite between that and the seargent. It's not quite as comfortable as a road bikes' seat, but very close. In my opinion about as good as you are going to get considering that it has less foam than most.
Good review but that bike looks to fraglie tbh I ride all weathers full time and IL do u a review I don't think it would stand the test of time
it looks like it forces you to sit on the tank almost I'm about 5"8 so it might be alright
how much air on your tires mate?
Rob Fern Usually 28 psi. sometimes i dial it down for dirt, but I'm pretty lazy.
have you changed something in carbie?
ICIE TV It is re-jetted, but I'm not sure what the settings are as my mechanic did it for me and it was 3 years ago now.
becouse i'm messing arounf with dynojet,and can't get my optimal settings,readed tons of topics,it rides like stock,there is no drastic changes with dyno jet kit,intsruction are crap,just basic info,,,,like i'm watching Aventure OZ videos and cant believe how they Fck do wheeles,mine just do not pull front no matter how i try.I like DR,have two of them,very good builded bike,simple and relialiable.Thank's for reply:)
Sweet review....
Bug Bomb Thanks for the good words.
I prefer at least a small windshield since headwinds on highway push my chest so much
Definitely takes the fatigue factor down a notch.
Great job, thank you.
Thank you for watching.
l pass most KLR's on the road.. My 2016 DR650SE has been armed, yet no stage work, all stock in that dept. Love my hard seat!! l imagine spankings growing up prepared me, ha, ha... KLR's to heavy, liquid cooled, too much to damage if you drop it...
White Raven I do like my dr better than when I had my KLR. I like something that works well in the dirt.
I wish pa would ket me register my cr125 .... unfortunately you can only ride street legal enduros, and registered atvs on our trails ... we are trying to change it though
I love going to Montana and watching all the quads driving down the road.
is that a lower concept seat?
2phalanges yes...seat concepts...I ordered the complete seat.
sixthisoverdrive how tall are you?
2phalanges 5'8...30" inseem.
how tall are you?
So basically, the DR can be modded to be better on the highway, but the KLR is too heavy and clumsy for off-road? Plus the DR is lots nippier with a less "un"-powerful engine? So, lighter, faster, stronger and nimbler than the KLR... Hmm... now let's see which one I want...
BirdArvid yes, except the dr will never be better on the highway than the KLR.
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DR is way better on the highway. Much more smooth and stable and more umph on the top. Make a trash can windscreen and get some tank saddlebags. Now you have a bit of storage and wind protection. Get a 5 dollar gas can.
Prince Mononoke thanks for tuning in, and thanks for your comments.
Well I have one bike that will do better than both , it does dirt better than the DR and road better than the KLR ,its comes with 6 speed fuel injection standard , hand guards ,crash bars ,bash plate , screen , 12 volt outlet, rear rack and even a centerstand as standard and 19 lt tank with a fuel range over 400kms , all at 169kg wet ." its the SWM 650 Superdual " Brembo Brakes and Sach Suspension. ( Only money you need to spend is Heated grips and better seat is you like more comfort )
( rebadged Husky TE630) Regards Paul from Australia
Paul Chidgey That is a better bike! I'm not sure about there, but when we had that bike here, you could almost buy 2 of these for the price of one of those. Thanks for weighing in.
Price in US dollars would be about 8500,00 ( fully kitted out as standard ) " also has cush drive as well " A DR in US dollars is around $ 5500 ? and then your up for at least another 2 for suspension upgrades ,seat, tank , etc etc ! I had mine has done 5000kms of at least 50% off road and some pretty narley stuff. 2 Aussies rode from the UK to Mongolia last year on two SWM 650 Superduals over 20,000kms, with little problems. A lot of Pig owners in Australia are being converted. Dr,s are old tech now - don't get me wrong they are a reliable bike that does on and off road well ( but nothing great ) were the S/D does off road great - as it is an Adventurised Husky TE 630 ( or now SWM 650 RS ) and road is very good. With Euro 4 being in not sure how much longer the DR or KLR with be able to survive without fuel injection.
SWM is being certified by Transport Canada for this spring of this year. Pricing looks to be around $10,500 to $12,000 Canadian for the Superduals. They look like a nice bike, all the right features and decent power, but being Chinese made they might have a hard time selling them. I will definitely be taking a look.
You have it wrong they are made in Italy, In the same plant were they used to make Husqvarna, prior to being brought by KTM then sold by BMW to them. The Husky designer of the pre- 2013 models brought the SWM name and then approached one of the largest Chinese motorcycle manufactures in china for the finical backing ( they have a 49% share holding ) but the same workers and designees went back to work in 2013 to make the same bike under a different name, Only Chinese parts are the plastics and some other parts. Engines, frame, Suspension, brakes ,wheels, all made in Italy . Check out the Australian reviews on the web ( as are in English or UK ones )
Paul Chidgey No I am not. The company is based in Italy, built in China by Shinery. It's right on their website lol.
Like the intro. It's like porn music on a red bull.
there both great bikes
brudyboy 58 Yesir.
Wdym needs mods to be as good as the klr on the highway bahah my 2020dr650 is stock beside pirelly rally cross tires an a 2nd hole drilled in the slide an its smashes my uncles klr 650 that heas heaps more stuff done to it an to say that the klr can do just as much on the dirt is not true at all maybe if your a novice rider who cant do hardcore hill climbs an single lines but ill tell u right now I cant pivet turn a klr or really turn on the back wheel. Where as the dr is easy to man handle if u want to. An if u have a bigger tank an nice wide seat its way better than the klr on the road to . I doubt u could put motards on klr an keep up with me on the road unless your wayne Gardner. An i dont even have my suspension done or anything so ye theres not much comparison to the dr if u want to do more harder riding an that sort of stuff even just on slippery surfaces the klr is way worse to keep control just bc of the seating position compared to the dr.iv got a yz450 to an I reckon im not that much slower through the bush on the dr compared to that. The klr is a underpowered overweight shit box that is only good for older people to do adventure riding on if yora young whipper snapper like me 17 an have grown up in dirtbikes then you'll want to go for the dr
AirBox and Jet.
An ive done big jumps an frapped around but ive never had my stand cut my engine of these are just wifes tales maybe if your bike if worn out asf it might come down but it would have to be pretty worn to do that
Ha ha ha! Suzuki is famous for huge exhaust. It’s good to know how much they really weigh.
suspension, suspension, suspension if your a off road guy
Jason Spears You really have to be a decent rider to max out the suspension. That being said...it needs something for the heavy stuff and washboard.
5:07 ball buster*
This Old Jew ha ha ha...always room for improvement.
I have trust issues with people who use the metric system
This Old Jew ahhh...you must be from the only country that doesn't!!! Thanks for watching OJ.
sexthisoverdrive WRONG Burma and Liberia do too. don't make me go keyboard warrior on ur ass.
Im not tryna make u out to be an idiot or anything just voicing my opinion for every else to see bc I dont agree with some of the things u said an ive been riding for 14years so im not just som weekend rider I eat sleep an breath bikes
OK i dont like the Suzuki, where is the windscreen duh? Kawasaki wins within 30 secs
Barney B Ha ha ha!!! I'm exactly opposite.
was thinking of buying a bike then saw the zuki with no screen and imagined myself being hit with the cold and eyes getting dry.Now i know why everyone likes the KLR
KLR is about 70 pounds heavier than the DR650 and wait till you tip the KLR in the dirt and wipe out a $200 piece of plastic. To me the plastics on the KLR ruin the bike unless you are highway only and then why buy an enduro? I much preferred the earlier KLR with only a small windscreen. KLR is reliable but after owing 150 bikes my opinion is that Kawasaki went backwards putting all of the fairings on the newer KLR's. I much prefer the simplicity of the DR650 or First Generation KLR.
i tried klr too heavy..dr650 quite occay..but my best bet is Xr650L light nimble bulletproof engine..too happy riding i bought it 2 unit..happy rider/adventure
I was really enjoying your review until I saw you drive a dodge...lost all confidence in your credibility. lol
Hey...it's a really old cheap dodge that I have only put 2000 kms on in 3 years!!! (don't use trucks much any more)
Ram, truck of the year again, Ram is now out selling Chevy trucks, so its 2nd in sales to Ford, Rams interior is FAR superior to the other two, its chassis is more rigid then the other two, better fuel economy, offer Cummins... nuff said. Don't believe me google it and go test drive one. I have owned Ford and Chevy trucks.. heard from others what i am telling you. I test drove one and never looked back. That's the truth.
Wdym needs mods to be as good as the klr on the highway bahah my 2020dr650 is stock beside pirelly rally cross tires an a 2nd hole drilled in the slide an its smashes my uncles klr 650 that heas heaps more stuff done to it an to say that the klr can do just as much on the dirt is not true at all maybe if your a novice rider who cant do hardcore hill climbs an single lines but ill tell u right now I cant pivet turn a klr or really turn on the back wheel. Where as the dr is easy to man handle if u want to. An if u have a bigger tank an nice wide seat its way better than the klr on the road to . I doubt u could put motards on klr an keep up with me on the road unless your wayne Gardner. An i dont even have my suspension done or anything so ye theres not much comparison to the dr if u want to do more harder riding an that sort of stuff even just on slippery surfaces the klr is way worse to keep control just bc of the seating position compared to the dr.iv got a yz450 to an I reckon im not that much slower through the bush on the dr compared to that. The klr is a underpowered overweight shit box that is only good for older people to do adventure riding on