But it really depends. On that short 3km ride that was basically flatland, it really doesn't make a difference in sweat. Sure I'm not living in florida, but days can be pretty damn hot and humid in summer. For me on the circumstances, the bike doesn't make a difference. When I sweat, it's because of heat, not because of rather casually cycling 3km. Of course, steep/long hills and/or longer distances will increase sweat leves exponentionally.
I live in Nebraska and our summers can be just as bad, if not worse than Florida. This week we will be in the low to mid 90's with heat indexes pushing 100, and we are still nearly 2 months away from the average peek heat. Just drop down a gear or two and have some water at hand. I commute 8km to work and rarely arrive more sweaty than my co workers that drive. Most times they are worse from their 2-3 block walk after parking their car.
In florida you would expect someone to be kinda sweaty because it's so hot and humid. You can't judge someone for that. I sweat driving around in my car with ac on. It's just the way it is.
For me personally, just the physical and mental health benefits alone of commuting by a regular bike far outweigh the other options. Absolutely enjoying your channel, so glad I found it.
I'd say those scooters and rental bikes (electric or not) do make sense when you DONT have a bike next to you. Say you are going to work via Tram or Bus everyday. Or by car, if your workspace is to far away and public transit connections sucks. If you then wanna see that client immediately, which is those 3km away, your own bike won't be there and in that case, those scooters and bikes could be very handy.
Good comparison, but you start the timer for your own bike while you're on it, so it seems like there's no unlocking or locking time included. If you count the time to find a rental, shouldn't you include the time to secure your own ride as well?
@@Shifter_Cycling and finding a docking station for the escooters and bike at the end (in my city you have to bring the escooters to a dock so they can charge at the end of your journey) ... it's good that there are apps now, in London I don't think they have an app and you often end up wasting time at the end of the journey looking for a dock to end the journey.
I bought my own e-scooter which goes about twice as fast as a Lime or Bird scooter. It’s a fast way to commute and my scooter fits in my locker at work
Yeah I got my own aswell its the best money I spent in decades . It gets me about just as fast as a taxi driver who stays at the speed limit in my town or bus .
@@austinhernandez2716 The main restrictions on motor power and maximum speed. You can refer few additional details here. What I want say is you cannot compare e-bike with scooter en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws
I think a bicycle is still faster than an escooter. As it's illegal to go more than 15 mph on a escooter and most personal escooters are made to not surpass that limit. Also bicycles have more paths open to them than escooters.
Yeah, for a fair comparison he could have compared ownership of an electric scooter, ownership of an ebike, and ownership of a regular bike. Or rental of the three; I've certainly been in cities with rent bikes that aren't electric, it is very much an option out there. E-scooters fill a wonderful niche. They pair better with public transportation and rideshare, just more transportable so you can pretty much bring one anywhere. And they're relatively inexpensive compared to electric bikes.
It also depends on how hilly your city is. In the Seattle area where I live, sweat level on a none-ebike would be like a 9/10. But a 1/10 on a class 2 or 3 e-bike.
Interesting comparison - thankfully I have my own bike and don’t have to rely on a sharing program for me. When I was driving to work it was approximately a 25min commute, my bike commute is right around the 32min mark and taking public transit (bus) is an unbelievable 70mins. For the time and convenience of the bike with the added benefits of getting exercise AND lowering emissions the Bike is the perfect choice for me. Now, how do we convince more people to take the bike?
@@Shifter_Cycling They're both new(I bought them this year). I use my bike for exercise and my e-scooter for commuting to work, picking up food at restaurants, going to the grocery as well as leisure rides along the lake in downtown Chicago. I have the Zero 8 scooter and the Specialized road bike: th-cam.com/video/PcvP-qb80KE/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/b-OtQ9CTLo4/w-d-xo.html
I own all three, they all have a place. E-scooter is zero sweat level and easy to take inside with you. I love the e-bike but can get nervous leaving it outside (even locked, it gets a lot of looks). The regular bike is a cheap single speed that was left in our yard when we bought the house, so no fears of theft there and great workout. I'd only pay for Lime if there's no other option (I drove somewhere and don't have my scooter) or I'm with a friend and joining them.
I use an adult kick scooter or a regular bike. Kick scooters with hard wheels you definitely won't get bored on as you have to be aware of cracks. On a smooth sidewalk they kind of can roll forever with barely any kicks.
@@KandiKlover Lmfao, don't talk about stuff you know nothing of child 😏, as you obviously haven't seen the kind of cracks I'm talking about. Some are extremely gnarly and will trip you even with big wheels. I've already developed multiple techniques though around it, it was never about "muh vibrations" lol, I barely feel them I've been riding so long.
Loving these "comparison" videos. I really like our bike share in Toronto (not pedelec), and we are also undergoing a significant expansion. Even though we don't have shared e-scooters here, I have started to see some people using them. Also, snow? already? yeeesh....
It also depends if you have a good place to store your bike. For example, if I am going out and won't see my bike for over an hour (movies or some other event), I won't take my bike because I'd rather not chance it being stolen. But being that most of my errands don't last more than an hour (within a given store) before I see my bike again, I take my bike 90% of the time, maybe more.
I was a fan of the Montreal Bixi bikes. Great for getting home if you stayed at the bar after the buses stopped running, and it was a flat rate per ride (within 30min)
4:50. ebike pedalac (pedal assist) more sweat work than a personal bike is credible. Most bike share bikes feel flimsy even though they are heavy, and have inefficient geometry for pedalling. A simple single-speed bike should win.
The cost for cycling isn't free. It still uses energy, but in this case your own energy. You probably only used 150 kcals or so plus micronutrients so the cost of half a sandwich. Not a lot but still something to consider because it is only for free if you want to turn into a skeleton. I prefer e scooter because it's easier to carry around and can take it into shops etc... without much fuss and can sustain higher speeds for longer for the average person.
Great comparisin. I would have enjoyed it more if you had also included a regular kick scooter which someonecowned.. so that it would havecbeen cheaper and no te time to look for it.
I know you were limited personally because you probably don't have an ebike or scooter, I would like a comparison of them more directly, using a personal one. I have a bike and electric scooter. I ride my scooter around university campus, and use my bike for further distances and exercise. I like my scooter because it's faster, doesn't require any energy, and I can take it inside with me. Can't do that with my bike. The bike doesn't have power so it lasts forever though and can be used in the rain. They both have their uses.
I own scooter and bike and my scooter is just as quick as my bus on my route and much quicker than my bike . My scooter does 33mph top speed and around 30mph really easy and cruising.
Bikeshare & Scootershare have never made sense to me as far as scaling goes. If they get popular, you can't find one, because they're all being used and gravitate towards a few clustered destinations. They idea that there is always one near you is just counterintuitive. And if you can't count on finding one, or start to and get burned a few times, you end up never trying it again, or gravitate towards ownership, which in the end is MUCH more enabling for constant Active Transportation than the "shares". China seemed to have proved that it's a broken capitalistic model too if left unmanaged by central organization. It requires municipal management to oversee that it's carbon efficient AND not creating a heap of bikes left in random places. Not a fan of those for-profit sharing company models at all. Thanks for sharing your results.
I own an e scooter but I never use it because my simple bicycle is much faster, able to reach speeds over 30-40 kph, electric scooter automaticity brakes at 21kph
Looking for a rebtal bike or scooter maycnot be that easy dependibg on what part of the city you are in, and not knowing in advance how far away onecmi be or whether it would be in a ridable condiriin already makes me sweat. I think if you want to be 100% sure that you will makecitcon timecfir an impirtantcmung, then youvn to own your device, whatever it is.
best way of travelling is electric scooter 🛴 but not just any electric scooter 🙅🏻♂️ the e-TWOW GT2020 is simply the best 🏆 speaking from experience because of course I own 1 🛴💨😍👌🏼
First of all, you chose pedal assist 1, there should be 3 atleast and scooter going with max 20km/h, anyway my ranking is 1)e-byke 2) elec scooter 3) bike
Get a kick scooter Time: 16minutes per 3km Cost: 0 Sweet level 10/10 :D Almost costs 0 dollars its whole life to maintain the kick scooter, no need to find a parking spot, you can take it everywhere with you too unlike a bicycle and E scooter. Not the fastest one but at least 4-5times faster than walking. 😁
You know you can do what you just said, just with owning your OWN E scooter. lol..... You can still bring in your own E scooter into shops and fold it aswell..
The ebike comparison wasn't fair given that you're using a Lime bike and bikes made for the sharing market are heavier to begin with, and only have one speed to begin with Using a personal electric bike, I imagine that'd be the quickest.. That's what I find vs a regular bike Ditto for the electric scooter. The sharing market ones are heavier If you had a sharing bike too vs a sharing e-bike in the mix, your results would be fairer. The Santander bikes in London are heavier than an ordinary bike for instance too. They're regular bikes but just made for the sharing market
I find this comparison bullsh$t. It’s skewed heavily towards the owned bike. This is not the first video I’ve seen here that does this kind of hack job. Will not like, will not subscribe, will not recommend. If you want to push owning regular bikes that’s cool but to be so disingenuous to sell your point is a huge turn off for me.
Peddle cycle….Great for the thirty something trendy millenial corporate climber. But what about the old, unfit and incapable….This is why we NEED e-transport. Stop punishing the less capable with enforced cycling to get e-bikes going and the hypocritical ban on non-Rental e-scooters. I want the officials responsible for these unfair decisions in the dock for rigorous parliamentary questioning. In short…we need to curtail this nanny state control right now.
I would give scooters a low grade for safety. They have much smaller wheels that can get caught in small potholes or obstacles and flip the rider over. Their brake is also probably not as good as a bikes.
I live in Florida so sweat level on a bike is 108/10, your client will ask if it was raining. E Scooter for me
But it really depends. On that short 3km ride that was basically flatland, it really doesn't make a difference in sweat. Sure I'm not living in florida, but days can be pretty damn hot and humid in summer. For me on the circumstances, the bike doesn't make a difference. When I sweat, it's because of heat, not because of rather casually cycling 3km.
Of course, steep/long hills and/or longer distances will increase sweat leves exponentionally.
Have you actually tried it? I know what cycling in hot, humid weather is like and sweat is not a problem.
Facts.
I live in Nebraska and our summers can be just as bad, if not worse than Florida. This week we will be in the low to mid 90's with heat indexes pushing 100, and we are still nearly 2 months away from the average peek heat. Just drop down a gear or two and have some water at hand. I commute 8km to work and rarely arrive more sweaty than my co workers that drive. Most times they are worse from their 2-3 block walk after parking their car.
In florida you would expect someone to be kinda sweaty because it's so hot and humid. You can't judge someone for that. I sweat driving around in my car with ac on. It's just the way it is.
For me personally, just the physical and mental health benefits alone of commuting by a regular bike far outweigh the other options. Absolutely enjoying your channel, so glad I found it.
I'd say those scooters and rental bikes (electric or not) do make sense when you DONT have a bike next to you.
Say you are going to work via Tram or Bus everyday. Or by car, if your workspace is to far away and public transit connections sucks. If you then wanna see that client immediately, which is those 3km away, your own bike won't be there and in that case, those scooters and bikes could be very handy.
Good comparison, but you start the timer for your own bike while you're on it, so it seems like there's no unlocking or locking time included. If you count the time to find a rental, shouldn't you include the time to secure your own ride as well?
Point taken. We could add 30 seconds or a minute of unlocking time.
@@Shifter_Cycling and finding a docking station for the escooters and bike at the end (in my city you have to bring the escooters to a dock so they can charge at the end of your journey) ... it's good that there are apps now, in London I don't think they have an app and you often end up wasting time at the end of the journey looking for a dock to end the journey.
I agree, I feel like if hes showing the time to find the other vehicles he should have included the time to unlock his bike and get on it.
I bought my own e-scooter which goes about twice as fast as a Lime or Bird scooter. It’s a fast way to commute and my scooter fits in my locker at work
How fast is ur e scooter
I think, every country has set their own speed limit for electric vehicles to categorize them as e bike
Yeah I got my own aswell its the best money I spent in decades . It gets me about just as fast as a taxi driver who stays at the speed limit in my town or bus .
@@BaranidaranPanneerselvam I've never heard of such a thing before
@@austinhernandez2716
The main restrictions on motor power and maximum speed. You can refer few additional details here. What I want say is you cannot compare e-bike with scooter
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bicycle_laws
Not a fair test, at all. Compare: A) your own bike, B) your own ebike, C) your own eScooter. Results: B, C, A
I think a bicycle is still faster than an escooter. As it's illegal to go more than 15 mph on a escooter and most personal escooters are made to not surpass that limit. Also bicycles have more paths open to them than escooters.
Throwing $5 at every 15minute commute is ridiculously expensive. It adds up, ~10 hours of commuting and you have paid full price of that rental thing.
Yeah, for a fair comparison he could have compared ownership of an electric scooter, ownership of an ebike, and ownership of a regular bike. Or rental of the three; I've certainly been in cities with rent bikes that aren't electric, it is very much an option out there.
E-scooters fill a wonderful niche. They pair better with public transportation and rideshare, just more transportable so you can pretty much bring one anywhere. And they're relatively inexpensive compared to electric bikes.
@@ivandiaz5791 exactly. Not really a fair comparison.
@@ivandiaz5791 I carry my scooter to class with at my university because it folds and isn't that big.
@@ivandiaz5791 Portability of an E scootee outweighs everything for me, even a folding bike is still bigger than a E scooter.
@@transportationland6395 Have you looked at electric unicycles? :)
It also depends on how hilly your city is. In the Seattle area where I live, sweat level on a none-ebike would be like a 9/10. But a 1/10 on a class 2 or 3 e-bike.
Any one of them is a good choice because it's not a damn car.
Interesting comparison - thankfully I have my own bike and don’t have to rely on a sharing program for me. When I was driving to work it was approximately a 25min commute, my bike commute is right around the 32min mark and taking public transit (bus) is an unbelievable 70mins. For the time and convenience of the bike with the added benefits of getting exercise AND lowering emissions the Bike is the perfect choice for me. Now, how do we convince more people to take the bike?
It’s good to have a variety of choice.
Man, I love these reviews because they give you a bigger picture. As a bike commuter in the Philippines, this is important to me.
I own my own bike and an e-scooter
Which works better in a dense city?
@@Shifter_Cycling They're both new(I bought them this year). I use my bike for exercise and my e-scooter for commuting to work, picking up food at restaurants, going to the grocery as well as leisure rides along the lake in downtown Chicago. I have the Zero 8 scooter and the Specialized road bike:
th-cam.com/video/PcvP-qb80KE/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/b-OtQ9CTLo4/w-d-xo.html
I own all three, they all have a place. E-scooter is zero sweat level and easy to take inside with you. I love the e-bike but can get nervous leaving it outside (even locked, it gets a lot of looks). The regular bike is a cheap single speed that was left in our yard when we bought the house, so no fears of theft there and great workout. I'd only pay for Lime if there's no other option (I drove somewhere and don't have my scooter) or I'm with a friend and joining them.
I use an adult kick scooter or a regular bike. Kick scooters with hard wheels you definitely won't get bored on as you have to be aware of cracks. On a smooth sidewalk they kind of can roll forever with barely any kicks.
Cracks aren’t really an issue the big wheels roll over them no problem. Just harden up and stop over obsessing about “muh vibrations”.
@@KandiKlover Lmfao, don't talk about stuff you know nothing of child 😏, as you obviously haven't seen the kind of cracks I'm talking about. Some are extremely gnarly and will trip you even with big wheels. I've already developed multiple techniques though around it, it was never about "muh vibrations" lol, I barely feel them I've been riding so long.
What about when you own the e-scooter or e-bike? Don't understand why many people seem to think those are rent only.
Loving these "comparison" videos. I really like our bike share in Toronto (not pedelec), and we are also undergoing a significant expansion. Even though we don't have shared e-scooters here, I have started to see some people using them.
Also, snow? already? yeeesh....
I'm a fan of winter, but early snow, ugh.
Honestly I just like the color of the lime bikes and scooters
It also depends if you have a good place to store your bike. For example, if I am going out and won't see my bike for over an hour (movies or some other event), I won't take my bike because I'd rather not chance it being stolen. But being that most of my errands don't last more than an hour (within a given store) before I see my bike again, I take my bike 90% of the time, maybe more.
Nice contrast between the different methods! Thanks!
I was a fan of the Montreal Bixi bikes. Great for getting home if you stayed at the bar after the buses stopped running, and it was a flat rate per ride (within 30min)
Well with Lime bike leaving, all there is now is the scooter.
Weather seems like a big factor in the scooter scenario, can they be used in snow and really bad rain?
And what about apocalyptic hell fire?
Lime pulls the scooters off the streets when it snows (and bikes disappear too, in most cities), which means you must use your own bike in winter.
I live in Florida and see these lime scooters in downtown Jacksonville.
There is a reason for the usual bicycles are still out there and much more popular
4:50. ebike pedalac (pedal assist) more sweat work than a personal bike is credible. Most bike share bikes feel flimsy even though they are heavy, and have inefficient geometry for pedalling. A simple single-speed bike should win.
The cost for cycling isn't free. It still uses energy, but in this case your own energy. You probably only used 150 kcals or so plus micronutrients so the cost of half a sandwich. Not a lot but still something to consider because it is only for free if you want to turn into a skeleton. I prefer e scooter because it's easier to carry around and can take it into shops etc... without much fuss and can sustain higher speeds for longer for the average person.
That's true. Easy to store and the shop employees wont care if you brang it in
How do e-scooters get charged up? The users don't do it, so who does? What's to prevent you getting on a flat one? Cheers.
Title should’ve been ‘shared mobility vs your bike’
Great comparisin. I would have enjoyed it more if you had also included a regular kick scooter which someonecowned.. so that it would havecbeen cheaper and no te time to look for it.
What about Uber or a Taxi? Oh, maybe we're trying to cut down on emissions?
My own bike any time
I know you were limited personally because you probably don't have an ebike or scooter, I would like a comparison of them more directly, using a personal one. I have a bike and electric scooter. I ride my scooter around university campus, and use my bike for further distances and exercise. I like my scooter because it's faster, doesn't require any energy, and I can take it inside with me. Can't do that with my bike. The bike doesn't have power so it lasts forever though and can be used in the rain. They both have their uses.
Electric is the way to go. Fast and convenient.
I own scooter and bike and my scooter is just as quick as my bus on my route and much quicker than my bike . My scooter does 33mph top speed and around 30mph really easy and cruising.
What about a kick scooter?
Very interesting.
The whole video was basically, I pick what I own because it's cheaper
i love scootrs.
Bike, bike...bike, the answer is bike
Brompton in the trunk
Bikeshare & Scootershare have never made sense to me as far as scaling goes. If they get popular, you can't find one, because they're all being used and gravitate towards a few clustered destinations. They idea that there is always one near you is just counterintuitive. And if you can't count on finding one, or start to and get burned a few times, you end up never trying it again, or gravitate towards ownership, which in the end is MUCH more enabling for constant Active Transportation than the "shares". China seemed to have proved that it's a broken capitalistic model too if left unmanaged by central organization. It requires municipal management to oversee that it's carbon efficient AND not creating a heap of bikes left in random places. Not a fan of those for-profit sharing company models at all. Thanks for sharing your results.
I own an e scooter but I never use it because my simple bicycle is much faster, able to reach speeds over 30-40 kph, electric scooter automaticity brakes at 21kph
Looking for a rebtal bike or scooter maycnot be that easy dependibg on what part of the city you are in, and not knowing in advance how far away onecmi be or whether it would be in a ridable condiriin already makes me sweat. I think if you want to be 100% sure that you will makecitcon timecfir an impirtantcmung, then youvn to own your device, whatever it is.
Damn, Canadian e-scooters are expensive as hell!
best way of travelling is electric scooter 🛴 but not just any electric scooter 🙅🏻♂️ the e-TWOW GT2020 is simply the best 🏆
speaking from experience because of course I own 1 🛴💨😍👌🏼
Que buen dato te aventaste, pero nadie te preguntó ;)
What about owning your own scooter
First of all, you chose pedal assist 1, there should be 3 atleast and scooter going with max 20km/h, anyway my ranking is 1)e-byke 2) elec scooter 3) bike
My friends e bike does 35 mph...
Get a kick scooter
Time: 16minutes per 3km
Cost: 0
Sweet level 10/10 :D
Almost costs 0 dollars its whole life to maintain the kick scooter, no need to find a parking spot, you can take it everywhere with you too unlike a bicycle and E scooter. Not the fastest one but at least 4-5times faster than walking. 😁
You know you can do what you just said, just with owning your OWN E scooter. lol..... You can still bring in your own E scooter into shops and fold it aswell..
Scooter should be the fastest with no sweat at all. 😆
bikes rule!
if youre a high powered executive you use a helicopter from your roof helipad
Can you use all of them in all types of weather?
The ebike comparison wasn't fair given that you're using a Lime bike and bikes made for the sharing market are heavier to begin with, and only have one speed to begin with
Using a personal electric bike, I imagine that'd be the quickest.. That's what I find vs a regular bike
Ditto for the electric scooter. The sharing market ones are heavier
If you had a sharing bike too vs a sharing e-bike in the mix, your results would be fairer. The Santander bikes in London are heavier than an ordinary bike for instance too. They're regular bikes but just made for the sharing market
My scooter goes 32km/hr lol
Calgary huh home of the hitman bret hart
That was a waste of time you have your own bike dahh.
I find this comparison bullsh$t. It’s skewed heavily towards the owned bike. This is not the first video I’ve seen here that does this kind of hack job. Will not like, will not subscribe, will not recommend. If you want to push owning regular bikes that’s cool but to be so disingenuous to sell your point is a huge turn off for me.
Peddle cycle….Great for the thirty something trendy millenial corporate climber. But what about the old, unfit and incapable….This is why we NEED e-transport. Stop punishing the less capable with enforced cycling to get e-bikes going and the hypocritical ban on non-Rental e-scooters. I want the officials responsible for these unfair decisions in the dock for rigorous parliamentary questioning. In short…we need to curtail this nanny state control right now.
I would give scooters a low grade for safety. They have much smaller wheels that can get caught in small potholes or obstacles and flip the rider over. Their brake is also probably not as good as a bikes.
Just way h closely and don't go to fast. Also, you can hop right off a scooter, not so much with a bike.