Love this video and test. As a homebrew shop owner we get alllll kinds of people that range from meticulous to perhaps too relaxed. This proves that great beer can be made with logic!
I always find it funny when the meticulous get a recipe and convert it to or from metric. "227 grams of black malt please" or the going back the other way eg. "8.82 ounces please!"
@@bradmcmahon3156 Our local shop we can do it ourselves. Being in Canada, everything is metric, but I still go in with oz and lbs, having to convert it for them when it comes time to pay, because they would be lost otherwise. I am never that exact however, if I need .227 grams for something and it is somewhere in the .225 to .230 range, then that is fine with me.
Love the idea. Hate the possibility that I could make something AMAZING and not be able to repeat it again... And nice to see someone else using the dollar tree containers!
I watched the 'orange' video which reminded me of one of the best beers I ever had (Deuchars IPA). Now I am watching this, which reminds me of another one of the best beers I ever had (Guiness For Ex). I am not going to mention the 3rd in my 'best 3 beers ever' list to see if some magic happens :)
That’s how I started brewing, looks about right so it should be good. I burned myself with may bad batch’s of cider but it was a fun way to experiment.
The only reason I do precise weighing is to keep track of my inventory. Errors can accumulate and there's nothing worse than starting a brewday and then not having what you need when you spin up your mill
Hey Martin, really enjoyed this take on Short & Shoddy, really creative! Guess I won't have to mind a couple grams more or less in my grain bill after all.
Hey Martin I was wondering what duoconnect fittings you use on your spike fermenter. I have a delta fermtank coming in with barbs for the temp coil and trying to use qd type fittings for the temp control.
Fantastic. While viewing I was wondering if Martin was going to say " best I ever made" at tasting( and therefore unable to reproduce ever again, lol). Thanks for the video
I recently did a 12 gallon batch of imperial stout and didn't feel like weighing out nearly 50 lbs of grains, so I eyeballed it. I have the same scoop!
I was just worried this would turn out to be a great beer and you would have a hard to recreating it...thats honestly my biggest reason for measuring stuff
The argument could be made that due to combination of brewing constantly, and seeing where you’re at in the bucket you know from muscle memory how much you are grabbing just from viewing the scoop of grains.
It's been quite a few years since I've weighed my grains, including specialty malts. I'm sure there's a point of deviation from the intended amount that is detectable, but then our recipes are only ever guessing at amounts that are desirable for what we're trying to brew anyway. I do usually measure bittering hop additions, but it's much more likely that you'll end up with an unintended result with bittering if you don't. Aroma hops and fresh frozen hop additions only ever get the eyeball from me. I don't do competitions, but people who do still happily drink my beer.
The other thing to keep in mind for this method is that you have massive amounts of experience and already know how big your measurements are beforehand so it’s not a “blind” eyeball situation. You were likely going to g to get close regardless due to your large amount of brewing experience
Ok so you have proven your really good. I think you need to now do a recipe on the fly. Pick a style you want to make and then dont refer to any preset recipe, oh and also dont use your typical scoopers. lol
A) Relax. Don't Worry. Have a homebrew. This isn't rocket science. B) I'd be more entertained if you hadn't used the scoops etc. that you use all the time. (i.e. Truly eye-balled the measurements.) Also, I'd guess you'd still end up with drinkable result.
Such a pointless video... You've got knowledge of all of your scoops after weighing them all previously. You've lost all repeatability, for no benefit.
This is useless because no homebrewer brews beer without weighing the grains, the hops and introducing them in a brewing app like brewfather. It would have been useful if you compared this beer made with liquid yeast and dry yeast. Because everyone is saying that dry yeast is worse than liquid yeast. It's not!
I’d say it is useful as many homebrewers get overly hung up on overly precise measurements. Sometimes making beer can be like making chili-running by senses. Repeatable? No. Great beer? Probably more often than some would think. Dry v liquid yeast would be nice as well.
As a former research scientist equipped with a milligram scale, I approve of this video. It's what we call "bucket chemistry".
Love this video and test. As a homebrew shop owner we get alllll kinds of people that range from meticulous to perhaps too relaxed. This proves that great beer can be made with logic!
I always find it funny when the meticulous get a recipe and convert it to or from metric. "227 grams of black malt please" or the going back the other way eg. "8.82 ounces please!"
@@bradmcmahon3156 Our local shop we can do it ourselves. Being in Canada, everything is metric, but I still go in with oz and lbs, having to convert it for them when it comes time to pay, because they would be lost otherwise.
I am never that exact however, if I need .227 grams for something and it is somewhere in the .225 to .230 range, then that is fine with me.
Love the idea. Hate the possibility that I could make something AMAZING and not be able to repeat it again...
And nice to see someone else using the dollar tree containers!
I watched the 'orange' video which reminded me of one of the best beers I ever had (Deuchars IPA). Now I am watching this, which reminds me of another one of the best beers I ever had (Guiness For Ex). I am not going to mention the 3rd in my 'best 3 beers ever' list to see if some magic happens :)
4:10 Yep, always wear an apron when I'm cooking/cleaning/brewing/baking. It's a batman apron, too!
That’s how I started brewing, looks about right so it should be good. I burned myself with may bad batch’s of cider but it was a fun way to experiment.
The only reason I do precise weighing is to keep track of my inventory. Errors can accumulate and there's nothing worse than starting a brewday and then not having what you need when you spin up your mill
If you still have any of this on tap, I'd love to try it 🍻
Hey Martin, really enjoyed this take on Short & Shoddy, really creative! Guess I won't have to mind a couple grams more or less in my grain bill after all.
Hey Martin I was wondering what duoconnect fittings you use on your spike fermenter. I have a delta fermtank coming in with barbs for the temp coil and trying to use qd type fittings for the temp control.
Fantastic. While viewing I was wondering if Martin was going to say " best I ever made" at tasting( and therefore unable to reproduce ever again, lol). Thanks for the video
I recently did a 12 gallon batch of imperial stout and didn't feel like weighing out nearly 50 lbs of grains, so I eyeballed it. I have the same scoop!
I was just worried this would turn out to be a great beer and you would have a hard to recreating it...thats honestly my biggest reason for measuring stuff
The argument could be made that due to combination of brewing constantly, and seeing where you’re at in the bucket you know from muscle memory how much you are grabbing just from viewing the scoop of grains.
Why not eyeball it, then have someone weigh the ingredients that way you can see how close to your estimates you actually were? Maybe next time!
Good job! Next time try to eyeball temperatures too 😅
It's been quite a few years since I've weighed my grains, including specialty malts. I'm sure there's a point of deviation from the intended amount that is detectable, but then our recipes are only ever guessing at amounts that are desirable for what we're trying to brew anyway. I do usually measure bittering hop additions, but it's much more likely that you'll end up with an unintended result with bittering if you don't. Aroma hops and fresh frozen hop additions only ever get the eyeball from me. I don't do competitions, but people who do still happily drink my beer.
Ps it's remarkable to me that, after all these years of brulosophy, people think eyeballing a grain bill is revolutionary
Good work! Love the channel!
6:15 ooooo new-to-me homebrewing podcast
That would mess up my stock management.😂 I'll stick to using the scales.
Martin is the best!
The other thing to keep in mind for this method is that you have massive amounts of experience and already know how big your measurements are beforehand so it’s not a “blind” eyeball situation. You were likely going to g to get close regardless due to your large amount of brewing experience
Triangle test with one measured, and one not? Maybe next time?
I guess I should calm down about 0.1oz differences.
The only reason for meticulous measurements is repeatability and not quantity
Ok so you have proven your really good. I think you need to now do a recipe on the fly. Pick a style you want to make and then dont refer to any preset recipe, oh and also dont use your typical scoopers. lol
A) Relax. Don't Worry. Have a homebrew. This isn't rocket science.
B) I'd be more entertained if you hadn't used the scoops etc. that you use all the time. (i.e. Truly eye-balled the measurements.) Also, I'd guess you'd still end up with drinkable result.
y'all drink the beer while it's still green. 4-6 weeks from grain or gtfo
Such a pointless video... You've got knowledge of all of your scoops after weighing them all previously. You've lost all repeatability, for no benefit.
This is useless because no homebrewer brews beer without weighing the grains, the hops and introducing them in a brewing app like brewfather. It would have been useful if you compared this beer made with liquid yeast and dry yeast. Because everyone is saying that dry yeast is worse than liquid yeast. It's not!
I’d say it is useful as many homebrewers get overly hung up on overly precise measurements. Sometimes making beer can be like making chili-running by senses. Repeatable? No. Great beer? Probably more often than some would think. Dry v liquid yeast would be nice as well.
My OCD can’t deal without weight arrrggghhh 🤣🫡