GREG INGLIS didn't go missing in matches like Latrell Mitchell regularly does. Nor did he get rubbed out by the judiciary as much for overly-aggressive play. His fitness was better. And Inglis was such a scary prospect to play against for so long. Latrell Mitchell is going to have to do a lot to be talked about in the same breath as Inglis in decades to come.
Idk bout GI never going missing in matches bcos there were times I remember he did. But I 100% agree with the scary prospect of any team going up against an opposition with GI in it. Even as fans everytime you see your team vs GI's team. Its him that you were worried about the most and pondered how your team will handle him. What a legend.
5 weeks ago Gus was saying that clubs should be rewarded for training players and now he is saying the players they train should go into a draft to a different club
He often down cover both sides so 12 months down the track he can say I told you so . He’s irrelevant these days and hasn’t had a correct opinion in a decade
As a player currently in a junior club, i do not want to ever have a draft system. I do not want to move out to a club i never wanted to play for. Id like to be a 1 man club
If Wighton was to leave Raiders when there was a draft in the NRL, then the Raiders would receive compensation from the NRL in the way of a franchise player compensation draft pick, which the club would apply for and if given it could possibly be a top selection in the following draft.
I have been pro NRL draft for 15+ years. IMO its the only way to ensure the less desirable clubs can gain high end junior talent. Some clubs like Titans just cannot compete in signing the better players with the higher tier teams and the draft can resolve this. Please bring it in 🙏
by losing marquee players, hypothetically your team should go worse. With having that external draft (strictly for rookies) it makes the rebuilding cycle have a softer blow because you're getting a young gun through the external draft.
Yes, Gus has been a long-time draft proponent (and realist on the re-introduction of a re-vamped player transaction system where the cap works with the draft, and how much time and structural change it would take to install). And I also take his point that it would need to be hybrid system suited to the NRL. But a point on his reference to an internal draft (as opposed to the external draft applicable to rookies): There really is no such mechanism used by the other pro sports that utilise a draft: There are similar concessions and designations that protect upcoming free agents from leaving their incumbent club without compensation. A free agent is not shopped to the bottom club. There is no such concept. A required free agent player is designated with a limited status that allows that player to walk should that club not be willing to match an offer from another club. If that offer is not matched, the player can leave as a free agent. But the club is compensated with mandatory top-round external draft picks. This is where the value and protections are for clubs: The external or rookie draft picks, which is why many upcoming free agents are traded for rookie draft picks prior to them reaching the final year of their current deal. The external/rookie draft would meanwhile work as Gus describes, and within a pay scale for players on their rookie deal. But just a point of clarification on the so-called 'internal draft' for free agents really being much more extensive than just a free agent becoming available to the bottom club first, with multiple mechanisms that work to protect clubs and players overall.
Gus' proposal of the draft is not even remotely close to how the draft works in other sports... That proposal is horrible, players will get stuck in situations where they are unhappy and have no way of getting out of it, forcing a player to another team that they might also not want to go to isn't an answer for them. A draft for existing players coming off contract as free agents would never ever work and is not used in the NBA for example... Free agents in the NBA have the chance to go to any team that is willing to offer them whatever they want.. The player can then choose what team they want to play for... Players are willing to go to other teams for less money if they prefer to be in a particular City , or they are willing to sacrifice money for a greater chance at a championship, it happens all the time... Gus' Draft proposal has the potential to remove this opportunity for players. Draft is only for rookies coming into the league, teams that do poorly in the year get a higher chance for the #1 pick of the rookies coming into the league... This is designed for lower tier teams to improve...
The Wighton example was dumb. If a player is a free agent he's a free agent (at the end of his contract), you can't restrict where he goes if a club wants him. Now, development players coming up, but not yet in the NRL, you can dictate that the only way they can play in the NRL is via a draft. That's when teams pick in reverse order of finish. Likewise players uncontracted but experienced (and maybe not the level of a Wighton), you can call that a free agent draft.
Even if Radley's tackle was a head clash, Bromwich got done for it. How are you not understanding that careless and reckless hits need to be penalised. Napa got pinged how many times because of reckless tackling technique? And there's literally a screenshot floating around of Radley's shoulder connecting with the jaw
At what age would players become eligible for the draft? Is the draft at the professional level? Will the top 5 picks expect to be paid and played as professionals? What would happen to the Salary Cap with the draft? Etc, etc, etc...
Does Canberra losing Wighton now put Jayden Sullivan in their cross hairs? Different styles of players but a hard running 5/8 is easier to find than a genuine half back
Lol the draft system would get blown up more than anything in NRL. If Tigers picked Wighton and Jack says "I'm not going I want to play with my cousin, friends and an indigenous proud Souths" then Souths can either purchase the draft pick contract OR swap Tigers like 5+ gun juniors for him. It would end up where the rich and powerful clubs with juniors like Souths, Penrith, Broncos etc. would end up even more powerful. The league saw that coming back in the 90s
American drafts only work because the players dont have options to goto elsewhere and make the same $$ NRL will never have a draft because the players can just skip codes or goto super league if they don't like who picks them.
What's lost in the discussions about a draft is the human impact. It's not fair to expect a young kid on 150k a year to uproot from his support network and potentially move thousands of kilometers away to play football. Just as it's not fair to expect a veteran in the twilight of his career to pack up his young family and move them somewhere else to play his final season. Yes, these blokes are on good money but the difference between us and the NFL or other sports with a draft, is everyone is paid astronomical money which allows the players to move their entire family to wherever they play. I doubt you would be able to bankroll a move of your entire support network to a temporary location on 500k or so a year.
30 grown men, most who are 6 feet or more, 90-120kgs who smash into each other for 80 minutes are scared about a 70kg soaking wet skinny 19 year old. Watch when a fan jumps into a wrestling ring, he gets battered and bruised.
We don't need a draft. The Broncos were running last a couple of years ago they are now coming first. The Cowboys many thought were going to come last year and they made the finals. The Titans made the 8 a couple of years ago and so did Newcastle. The Warriors are going gun this year after struggling for some time. We had Melbourne dominant for a while, then Roosters and now Penrith. After 8 rounds 3rd to 9th are all on 10 points. Last year's grand finalists are coming 13th. Teams go up and down all the time in our competition. The salary cap is working and there are sporting competitions in the world with a draft that are not as close as ours and have teams who have had longer periods of dominance.
I have noticed a huge change in refereeing since about 2012 but it became very obvious in 2013 and 2014 in the way the refs all year hot the roosters home and same in 2014 with souths. They were great teams but the refs seemed to have a club they "wanted" to win the premiership and "gave" them every 50/50 call as well as the 60/40 70/30 call. Also with betting happening on these games it is so suspect. You could find reasons to give penalties and reasons not to so easily in our game. They. Need to pay refs a minimum of 200,000$ and there needs to be a LAW that refs that are refereeing a sport/game being professionally gambled on and are caught cheating 20 years in jail minimum
the only way to make this game fair you need to introduce a 100 point system to the teams this way ALL the teams and supporters know what players are worth and not brown paper bags. local JRs get a 20% discount and if they go to another team they are worth more points. IF super Coach can (rate) players by a money value then why cant the NRL..........
An NRL draft won't work. Drafts are only successful in the US because of the college system... plus, huge guaranteed contracts. Why would teams like Parra and Penrith bother spending on their juniors if they're gonna lose their best young players to other teams? A transfer or trade system would work better in the NRL. In a transfer system Souths would have to buy Wighton from Canberra for a negotiated price. In a trade system they'd have to trade a player, or players, back to Canberra... matching the salaries. Both those systems could work in the NRL, but a draft never will.
Gusss is wrong a draft is a couple of weeks to a month where teams choose a player up in the market an the player still choose the club not first in first serve. Every team puts in for a player an its announced live the player then choose live. What team he wants
There will need to be academies like in the AFL because the NRL isn't going to wear the cost of running all of the jnr's. Stop crying, we didn't have a whinge about signing Asotasi for overs....
If Gus ever writes a book, I'd wait in line for 48hrs to get my hands on one.
Not if the release is at bankstown.
Wouldn't need too mate. Think you'd be the only one to read a book from this clown 🤡
He does have a biography. " Good as Gould " my father bought it home from a garage sale years ago.
GREG INGLIS didn't go missing in matches like Latrell Mitchell regularly does. Nor did he get rubbed out by the judiciary as much for overly-aggressive play. His fitness was better. And Inglis was such a scary prospect to play against for so long. Latrell Mitchell is going to have to do a lot to be talked about in the same breath as Inglis in decades to come.
100percent G.I was a scary player all game long, if G.I is a 10 mitchell is a 8
Glad they both played for my team.......💪💪
Idk bout GI never going missing in matches bcos there were times I remember he did. But I 100% agree with the scary prospect of any team going up against an opposition with GI in it. Even as fans everytime you see your team vs GI's team. Its him that you were worried about the most and pondered how your team will handle him. What a legend.
💯
5 weeks ago Gus was saying that clubs should be rewarded for training players and now he is saying the players they train should go into a draft to a different club
He's full of it
Standard for him.
To be fair, that has been his take for the past decade. Clearly something has shifted his opinion.
He often down cover both sides so 12 months down the track he can say I told you so . He’s irrelevant these days and hasn’t had a correct opinion in a decade
Yeah exactly make up your mind. Draft is BS anyway, no reason for any team to invest in juniors if they don't get to have them.
Gus being genuine here is a thousand times better than when he was part of the 9 commentary team
gus has this draft thing backwards I thought drafts were only used for rookies coming into the game
A draft? What are we drafting, or more importantly who are we drafting? This is long overdue and would help the NRL so it won't happen.
It's About Time the NRL introduce the draft system already.
Draft system totally kills off the point of player development within clubs.
As a player currently in a junior club, i do not want to ever have a draft system. I do not want to move out to a club i never wanted to play for. Id like to be a 1 man club
lol you mean a 1 club man.. but yeh I agree
If Wighton was to leave Raiders when there was a draft in the NRL, then the Raiders would receive compensation from the NRL in the way of a franchise player compensation draft pick, which the club would apply for and if given it could possibly be a top selection in the following draft.
Weird how he was opposed when he had the Penrith junior system to feed off and now he supports it. Maybe in six months he will have a change of mind.
I have been pro NRL draft for 15+ years. IMO its the only way to ensure the less desirable clubs can gain high end junior talent. Some clubs like Titans just cannot compete in signing the better players with the higher tier teams and the draft can resolve this. Please bring it in 🙏
Warriors have been fantastic this year, such surprise packets!
Ripped off against storm.
Gus, we played Penrith without our two best forwards, Tatola and Keon!!! We missed them more than Penrith misses Martin.
no fisher harris. plus only won when chrichton moved to other side
@@PabloEscobarMedellin Actually won because our backs decided to go for tries.
Tatola and keon aren’t our best forwards
@@davidfife-nm7uy Tatola won the George Piggins medal as our player of the year in 2022.
@@davidfife-nm7uy I think they are, at least for making metres. Tatola was rated by his own players last year, best player of 2022.
by losing marquee players, hypothetically your team should go worse. With having that external draft (strictly for rookies) it makes the rebuilding cycle have a softer blow because you're getting a young gun through the external draft.
Come on Gus. Bring on Super League 2. Bring back the contact. And Bring back the biff.
Think we all know which one would sell better.
Yes, Gus has been a long-time draft proponent (and realist on the re-introduction of a re-vamped player transaction system where the cap works with the draft, and how much time and structural change it would take to install). And I also take his point that it would need to be hybrid system suited to the NRL. But a point on his reference to an internal draft (as opposed to the external draft applicable to rookies): There really is no such mechanism used by the other pro sports that utilise a draft: There are similar concessions and designations that protect upcoming free agents from leaving their incumbent club without compensation. A free agent is not shopped to the bottom club. There is no such concept. A required free agent player is designated with a limited status that allows that player to walk should that club not be willing to match an offer from another club. If that offer is not matched, the player can leave as a free agent. But the club is compensated with mandatory top-round external draft picks. This is where the value and protections are for clubs: The external or rookie draft picks, which is why many upcoming free agents are traded for rookie draft picks prior to them reaching the final year of their current deal. The external/rookie draft would meanwhile work as Gus describes, and within a pay scale for players on their rookie deal. But just a point of clarification on the so-called 'internal draft' for free agents really being much more extensive than just a free agent becoming available to the bottom club first, with multiple mechanisms that work to protect clubs and players overall.
Is that a real photo of Gus and Patrick Mahomes? I never thought I’d see the day 😂😂😂
lmao i was thinking the same thing wish it was
Noone around the world ( that I'm aware ) has a draft the way Gus is explaining, it makes no sense at all
Gus' proposal of the draft is not even remotely close to how the draft works in other sports... That proposal is horrible, players will get stuck in situations where they are unhappy and have no way of getting out of it, forcing a player to another team that they might also not want to go to isn't an answer for them. A draft for existing players coming off contract as free agents would never ever work and is not used in the NBA for example... Free agents in the NBA have the chance to go to any team that is willing to offer them whatever they want.. The player can then choose what team they want to play for... Players are willing to go to other teams for less money if they prefer to be in a particular City , or they are willing to sacrifice money for a greater chance at a championship, it happens all the time... Gus' Draft proposal has the potential to remove this opportunity for players.
Draft is only for rookies coming into the league, teams that do poorly in the year get a higher chance for the #1 pick of the rookies coming into the league... This is designed for lower tier teams to improve...
Paul Kent loves Gus
anther great show salute gentelman
Peter Kelly, Les Davidson, Terry Randall, Harry Eden, Mal Reilly not in the list of scariest players?
The Wighton example was dumb. If a player is a free agent he's a free agent (at the end of his contract), you can't restrict where he goes if a club wants him. Now, development players coming up, but not yet in the NRL, you can dictate that the only way they can play in the NRL is via a draft. That's when teams pick in reverse order of finish. Likewise players uncontracted but experienced (and maybe not the level of a Wighton), you can call that a free agent draft.
I HATE that they give us the betting odds and prices it should be illegal.
Extra Salary Cap for the bottom four??!! They are already paying overs for duds, they'll just spend more on other duds.
😂😂😂😂😂
Even if Radley's tackle was a head clash, Bromwich got done for it. How are you not understanding that careless and reckless hits need to be penalised. Napa got pinged how many times because of reckless tackling technique?
And there's literally a screenshot floating around of Radley's shoulder connecting with the jaw
Need timestamps
NRL must have a draft
Adrian Morley would eat them all up , best ever hitman fullstop
I'm not listening to "know it all Gus" and his lispy mouth full of saliva voice for 50 mins.This guy has way more respect than he ever deserves.
At what age would players become eligible for the draft? Is the draft at the professional level? Will the top 5 picks expect to be paid and played as professionals? What would happen to the Salary Cap with the draft? Etc, etc, etc...
It works with other sports
Put the slater podcast on youtube
Does Canberra losing Wighton now put Jayden Sullivan in their cross hairs? Different styles of players but a hard running 5/8 is easier to find than a genuine half back
Lol the draft system would get blown up more than anything in NRL. If Tigers picked Wighton and Jack says "I'm not going I want to play with my cousin, friends and an indigenous proud Souths" then Souths can either purchase the draft pick contract OR swap Tigers like 5+ gun juniors for him. It would end up where the rich and powerful clubs with juniors like Souths, Penrith, Broncos etc. would end up even more powerful. The league saw that coming back in the 90s
What about the AFL model? Say if the NRL had a draft system for juniors, the Bunnies would pay the Raiders compensation in the form of draft picks.
You don't get compensation for FA players.
American drafts only work because the players dont have options to goto elsewhere and make the same $$ NRL will never have a draft because the players can just skip codes or goto super league if they don't like who picks them.
The NRL is awesome this year but I'm just about to watch this episode and find out why it's all doom and gloom and ol' Gussy can fix it.
A well placed sniper would deter pitch invaders.
What's lost in the discussions about a draft is the human impact. It's not fair to expect a young kid on 150k a year to uproot from his support network and potentially move thousands of kilometers away to play football. Just as it's not fair to expect a veteran in the twilight of his career to pack up his young family and move them somewhere else to play his final season. Yes, these blokes are on good money but the difference between us and the NFL or other sports with a draft, is everyone is paid astronomical money which allows the players to move their entire family to wherever they play. I doubt you would be able to bankroll a move of your entire support network to a temporary location on 500k or so a year.
Im a manly fan but some teams like Canberra at least should get some type of away from home allowance
30 grown men, most who are 6 feet or more, 90-120kgs who smash into each other for 80 minutes are scared about a 70kg soaking wet skinny 19 year old. Watch when a fan jumps into a wrestling ring, he gets battered and bruised.
Gus’s bright idea is to blackmail players into staying at clubs that ain’t gonna win a premiership at 😂😂
We don't need a draft. The Broncos were running last a couple of years ago they are now coming first. The Cowboys many thought were going to come last year and they made the finals. The Titans made the 8 a couple of years ago and so did Newcastle. The Warriors are going gun this year after struggling for some time.
We had Melbourne dominant for a while, then Roosters and now Penrith. After 8 rounds 3rd to 9th are all on 10 points. Last year's grand finalists are coming 13th. Teams go up and down all the time in our competition. The salary cap is working and there are sporting competitions in the world with a draft that are not as close as ours and have teams who have had longer periods of dominance.
Rooster are premiership favourites but rabbits are not this guy is drunk
I have noticed a huge change in refereeing since about 2012 but it became very obvious in 2013 and 2014 in the way the refs all year hot the roosters home and same in 2014 with souths. They were great teams but the refs seemed to have a club they "wanted" to win the premiership and "gave" them every 50/50 call as well as the 60/40 70/30 call. Also with betting happening on these games it is so suspect. You could find reasons to give penalties and reasons not to so easily in our game. They. Need to pay refs a minimum of 200,000$ and there needs to be a LAW that refs that are refereeing a sport/game being professionally gambled on and are caught cheating 20 years in jail minimum
Wow! You don't even mention the Broncos even though they're on top of the ladder? The arrogance.
Wow, Gus doesn't even know how a free agency and draft system works....🤦♂
the only way to make this game fair you need to introduce a 100 point system to the teams this way ALL the teams and supporters know what players are worth and not brown paper bags. local JRs get a 20% discount and if they go to another team they are worth more points. IF super Coach can (rate) players by a money value then why cant the NRL..........
An NRL draft won't work. Drafts are only successful in the US because of the college system... plus, huge guaranteed contracts.
Why would teams like Parra and Penrith bother spending on their juniors if they're gonna lose their best young players to other teams?
A transfer or trade system would work better in the NRL. In a transfer system Souths would have to buy Wighton from Canberra for a negotiated price. In a trade system they'd have to trade a player, or players, back to Canberra... matching the salaries.
Both those systems could work in the NRL, but a draft never will.
Who run the vast majority of private security companies?
Are these security workers sufficiently trained?
NRL needs a draft 💯
13:53 Gus dropped a nugget 😂
Gusss is wrong a draft is a couple of weeks to a month where teams choose a player up in the market an the player still choose the club not first in first serve. Every team puts in for a player an its announced live the player then choose live. What team he wants
A draft won't get through the legislature.
U can’t draft in NRL where u gonna draft from. America has draft cause their collage sports are so big and the talent is ridiculous.
There will need to be academies like in the AFL because the NRL isn't going to wear the cost of running all of the jnr's.
Stop crying, we didn't have a whinge about signing Asotasi for overs....
Munster took like $600,000 less to stay at storm , dolphins should of whinged like Ricky's crying raiders
agreed
Someone should be jumping the pitch and clubbing some of these refs with these recent calls
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