Over-Thinking Fantasy: Keyblade, Frostmourne, Dante's Rebellion, Etc
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- There is so much fantasy happening here...
Obviously we all know that video game swords and other weapons are often created with nothing but coolness in mind, far removed from mundane reality. Sometimes it's amusing to over-think just how impractical they would be IRL though, and even to handle a physical reproduction to get a feel for exactly what's going on here.
What I'm showing in this video (most of them are made as wallhangers, NOT battle-ready):
Keyblade inspired by Fatal Crest from Kingdom Hearts II
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Lich King Arthas' Frostmourne from Warcraft III
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Dante's "Rebellion" from Devil May Cry
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Design inspired by Zelda Skyward Sword
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Imagine being ten years old and walking into the sword shop with Mom after convincing her to take you in and you just constantly hear some bearded guy in the corner berating everything you want to buy lmao. Love these videos
lol if i would make a fantasy game i would have a bearded guy standing in the weapon shop making recommendations on which swords are good
"This sword is too heavy to wield one-handed and you can't cut your way out of wet paper even if your life would depend on it. You would have better luck buying a long piece of iron and beating your enemies over the head with it"
@@xelldincht4251You'd need to fix some of your tenses in your game and make sure you get the woulds out of where they don't belong.
Kid stands and listens learns choses to get a real sword becomes proficient swordsman .
The kid might assume the bearded guy will forge him a magic sword if you provide him with the materials he requests.
@@willemverheij3412 Yes.
Frostmourne wasn't a fair analysis. You have to be the crown prince of Lordaeron, become a Knight of the Silver Hand, proceed to slaughter an entire town full of innocent civilians, lose your soul, become a death knight and continue the slaughter and finally become the lich king before you can properly wield it. Maybe once you do that you'll see its true value and appeal.
Arthas didn't wield Frostmourne, it wielded him.
@@corwinhyatt519 Now I have this mental image in my head of a sword whacking people with an armored knight 😅
@@rhokesh4391 😁😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 To be fair it is more like Frostmorne is the rider of a well trained and blooded war horse from a highly desireable pedegree. Or rather Ner'zhul is the rider and Frostmourne is the saddle.
Or well... wear thick gloves like Arthas does?
Also, I'm not a huge fan of Warcraft, but have you SEEN the size of those humans? They're like pseudo-Space Marines from Warhammer 40k. The weight means nothing, the real problem is that the handle is too short for those massive hands! XD
The fact that Devil May Cry out of all things manages to have one of the most reasonable sword designs is ridiculous in its own way
I mean Dante swings Rebellion with one hand like it's nothing so there is that
until you see the one Nero uses at the end of the vid with the bike throttle on it, where it would be impossible;e to actually grab and use said gimmick of the sword
@@Quickpatch12the weird part is that Nero never uses the throttle. It acts more like a hand guard judging by how he uses it
From 2 onwards yes. Have you seen the alastor? I wouldn't call that thing reasonable 😂
To be fair that's because Skall was holding one that's like half-sized
Despite my efforts to tell her otherwise my mother keeps walking with knifes pointing straight out, I live in a constant state of dread, save me
mine does that too every time she does something in the kitchen ,i am starting to get suspicious....
Don't worry, someday you will no longer live with your mother. You just have to survive until that day comes.
@@TheRealSkeletor oh... oh no lol
when my father was young he saw a story on tv about two english kids around 5-7 who had a bad experience with this, the older one moving with the knife in hand blade out, turn around the door... and accidentally stabs his younger brother in the belly. Everything ended well but one of the parents said that during the drive to the hospital he had to keep pushing a rag on the younger brother belly because it seemed like part of his intestines were going out.
The mental image of intestines exiting stayed with my dad ever since, knife safety was taught early in our house
At a young age, many of us were taught to walk with scissors closed and holding the metal pointed down, so if we tripped we wouldn't fall on the sharp end.
The Halo novels account for the gap between the plasma sword blades by explaining that there's a powerful positive charge running across the gap, repelling a blade from slipping through. Sci-fi shenanigans but there ya go.
Sounds like a retrofit, but who cares. At least they have a reason.
It was also a recreation of swords they originally forged in steel, though.
@@carthienesdevilsadvocatenr2806 Yeah but when they were forging the steel antiques the san shyuum were something like 5 or so years away freshly killing 80% of there homeworlds population and never intended other species to use the swords.
A functional Master Sword? Nice.
Looked like one of the functional redesigns I've seen before. Might've been Skal, might've been Shad (before he went off the deep end).
Wish I could know for sure which one, even ones that look just like that might be functional or might be replicas
I'd love to do test cutting with a high end Master sword reproduction.
@@Skallagrim I'm pretty sure it won't cause money to just appear out of whatever you're cutting, though. There's probably at least a couple of steps between "cut stuff with Master Sword" and "get money." :P
Would be cool to see if you can get a good functional replica, though.
I feel so honored to have seen video evidence of the legendary "Gonad-Whacker 9000."
That was last years model.
It helps show your opponent you do not fear death
The rare but always hilarious "double sided mace" is the true gonad whacker 9000 XD
Mickey's Dick Smasher is real
4:17 It has been said every time this sword comes up, but the gap in the blades does serve a very important purpose in the energy weapon version. The two halves of the blade require different charges to form and will short out explosively if they touch. This is one thing that makes them so devastating in the Halo-verse, the instant the blades penetrate a target they complete a circuit which adds an electrical explosion to the stab wound.
Ok, that is a good reason for the design, I can't even argue with that.
ohohoh that is neat
yeh that could be nasty and legit you could actually put enough juice through a metal version to do some really nasty things. I use to mess with high voltage stuff as a kid and um well don't through a hot dog on to a grid of heavy gauge wires with 800 volts at 20 amps+ :)
No i wont say where i got the transformer like that i don't want other to mess with crap like that
And no it is not a microwave transformer that puts out around 1 amp or less at real high voltage.
The terrifying thing is just how small it actually is it id like making a first with both hands and putting them side by side and a cube shape.
I was going to say that weight of the blades wouldn't an issue but that just introduces the lightsaber problem of the weapon having the balance of a flashlight. Better keep it away from your body or anything you care about!
@@nanaki-seto This is the stuff you don't tell random people on the internet about.
6:53 - "Bobby! Quick! That beaver youtube guy is dissin' all our fantasy swords on video! Go there and advertise that 'Zelda' sword he's holding right now!"
that was so weird... Maybe someone in the staff sent the intern as a hazing joke
Everything else in the shop: {exists}
Skallagrim: "Eww, what the heck is this thing?"
Link's sword: {exists}
Skallagrim: {immediately starts practising some stances, parries and cuts with it}
Fun fact for Frostmourne at 2:33 - the redesigns for the wallhangers ADD around 60% of the clutter to it, which isnt present in the original WC3 art. Even the skulls were about two thumbs thick by proportions in the OG.
Even the metal rings with on the grip are also from the WOTLK login screen and werent present on the original design/were just thin metal bands notable further in thus holding the leather/cloth/skin/fantasy bandage thing that worked as padding (AND EVEN THEN the spikes didnt become that pronounced on them till later).
You have an appreciation of Frostmourne's evolution like I do for Maiev's armor and weaponry.
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Well, to be fair... with the WC3 graphics you couldn't really put a lot of stuff on the sword's model anyway.
@@aleksyssubmaker2745 The WC3 scourge (not remake) logo shows the details of frostmourne model cant show, it only has flat bands (which werent even metallic the entire time as one can see from old uploads of the pre patch assets on forums like the hex and hive workshop) and the spikes on the handle are fur instead.
It did have a odd skull horn things on the guard still pointing back to you a bit and the arrow tip like protrusion on the pommel which are minor flaws, but not to the degree the wallhangers turn it into.
It also was a greatsword in the original art design, then it got nerfed to a Bastard sword for the cinematics.
It's fun to see Skal mess about and have fun in a store like this. I think it's lovely.
I was scouring around the footage of the store to look for the Soul Reaver and the Chaoseater.
The Reaver is also ridiculous and somehow I love it in spite of that
The bit with Frostmourne and the spikes on the handle make me think of Mea culpa from Blasphemous. A thorn can be equipped in the handle which carries great significance for the story and ties into the themes of penitence.
My Guilt has excuse of being explicitly made for penance of it's wielder. It's awkward handle is there for a reason.
I vaguely remember a character from Owari no Seraph using a vampire sword with thorny vines which drink his blood or something. It's in the first OP (which is really good btw).
1:39 Those handle spikes would actually be perfect for a skeleton, because since they don't have flesh and couldn't rely on friction to maintain their grip, the spikes would would give the bones on their hands something to interlink with.
Except the person who uses that sword in Warcraft is essentially a corrupted/undead human in full plate armour. Not sure if he feels less pain or something when holding it though.
Fun video. Something most people get wrong about the Kingdom Key is that, unmodified (as in, no Keychain attached) it is more like a club than a blade to most living things. It cuts the Heartless, Nobodies, & Unversed, as beings of Darkness, very well. But against beings from the Realm of Light, it typically does less damage & more concussive/bludgeoning instead. Just look at how long it takes to whittle down ordinary people like Captain Hook, Clayton, or even Tron/Rinzler. It's also a magic weapon & conduit for magic, so swings that use magic (e.g.: Icebreaker, Fire/Blizzard/Thunder Edge) do more damage, while techniques like Sonic Blade & Ars Arcanum transform or coat the shaft in light magic, making it functionally more like a blade (lightsaber?) in motion.
There are Keyblades that are far more sword-like too. But most don't use the teeth end like you did, Skal, or like an axe, as you said.
Yeah, the way a Keyblade usually swings is the teeth away from the target, functioning like a bludgeon. Although in lore, I believe explained in an Ultimania for KH2, the keyblade wielder can change the sharpness of the keyblade with their intent on the swing. Which is why Sora can cut through the skyscrapers in the Xemnas fight in KH2, but bonks regular enemies in combat. It's basically just magic, and when not being used with magic, it's a big metal key.
It's kind of funny how Link's sword is actual quite real one... Cause he is actually superstrong too. In the last games at leasr
Link is not superstrong by nature, but in most games he finds a glove (or gauntlet) that makes him ludicrously strong. Not to mention being avatar of Courage makes him extremely fast learner.
@@vksasdgaming9472why you add that head cannon at the end lol
he actually is super strong by nature, the "spirit of the here" aka. triforce of courage, is what grants him greater capabilities. power gives ganon raw, unrivaled power, wisdom grants zelda immense foresight and planning.@@vksasdgaming9472
@@gloving4hire How else can someone who has never held bow become master archer in number of shots that can be counted on one hand's fingers? Or master any other very difficult skillset required?
@@vksasdgaming9472 Hey listen!
What a throw back, Skall standing in a knife shop ranting about sword like wall hanger objects!
The keychains on those Keyblades are like three times as long as what they are in the games. LOL
They're literally meant to be like the size of phone charms. 😂
Most art depicts the chain/charm going to the end of the guard when the keyblade is placed tip down, and reaching to about Sora’s mid thigh in a normal stance
The carbon steel master sword was pretty cool.
Wallhanger Rebellion might be slightly more functional than most entirely-accurate variants of Rebellion, specifically because in most of the designs it has spikes poking out of the skull eyes pointed towards the hands.
I might be wrong on that one but i am pretty sure only DMC5 rebellion had the spikes coming out of the eyes of the skull. And only on one side if i remember correctly.
@@nono547I think your right about that at least for dmc5
The spikes on Rebellion's in-game model are actually fairly short and offset enough that I don't think it'd be an issue.
Devil Sword Dante, on the other hand, is an absolute wrist-stabber.
God. I instantly recognised the 'Keyblade' at the start. It's a very... basic(?) try to make Fatal Crest from KH2FM.
Loved that thing in game. IRL not so much
Funnily enough, flying runeblades like Frostmourne can be summoned by a Death Knight in WoW
Frostmourne itself, and by extension, Arthas, don't (or possibly can't) do this themselves, a very important note. Other Death Knights can, but the Lich King never pulled that move out himself.
A good lore question would be is it something only 3rd Gen DKs and onwards are capable of doing, or can 2nd Gen DKs (Arthas and probably dudes like Baron Rivendare) use this ability too? I've stopped playing for a while, so can't go back and check for myself, but to my knowledge at least, 2nd Gen DKs haven't done anything like this.
- Energy blade is completely doable for a Ninja Turtle to hold
Yep, it's clearly made for 3 fingers.
Your humor is on point, always puts a smile on my face!
Wow, it’s been ages since your original keyblade analysis video. Cool to see a revisit.
Frostmourne really taking me back… I remember playing the original WC3 campaign in HS when it first came out…. Arthas’ turn was rough.
In defense of keyblades and their chains. They aren't ever meant to be longer than 6 chain links at the longest as depicted by every games art and their in-game models, which is something the irl replicas constantly get wrong. So no, there should never be a risk of you smacking your nuts with the keychain unless you're doing the weirdest, literal, thrusting attack.
Also you don’t strike with the teeth of the key, it’s not an axe!
@@OtisCluck ^ This too lol
@@OtisCluck This
is what was bothering me the whole time. He was holding it WRONG!
It's the 'back' of the blade that you strike with, not the head. As you said: It's not an axe!
I'm loving these videos Skall! It's so great to see you look that these replicas and analyze the.
I love these kind of videos Skall!!
0:30 Silly how could you not realize that the Keyblade is the ultimate weapon for anyone practicing the legacy systems of Lichtenauer. Weapon and technique put into one form - the perfect Zwerchcopter!
And a skeleton key also, never again will you be locked out of your house by accident.
Great video Skall! I love it when you break down the design flaws in fantasy designs, they actually serve quite well as education for weapon designs, that is, what not to do. I watched all of your older videos that were like this too!
I had a heavy keyblade made of wood. So, a club
Ahh yes, a fellow "Bonk build" player 👏
It'd be fun to watch a video series analyzing your (and viewers) favorite fantasy weapons, in a way you could show a redesign where it could be realistic, and yet keep the fantasy aesthetic to it. By the way, fun video! Great job!
I like that the Energy Sword is such a wall-hanger that Canada lets you have what would be a punch-dagger.
amazing that you actually traveled there . love this series . thanks
Love these videos!!! These are like the old school videos when you worked in the airsoft/knive store! Love to see it
"It's so fantasy!" - Probably the most accurate thing I've heard for many such "blades".😆
Good thing I just got hired. I'll be able to become a member in about 2 weeks to see the extended video. I love these types of videos so much.
Frostmourne is supposed to rend the very soul of its wielder, so the spikes on the handle are a small nuisance compared to that.
It was fun seeing you use all of the swords in this video.
Oh man, this video brings back memories of when your channel started out. :D
I love this little micro series! For the algorithm!
Great video!! Really cool!
I very much enjoyed this video!
The Red Queen review will be entertaining 😅
I've had my eye on that Rebellion for years now it's cool to see footage of it
Awesome video Skall. Also i like your plait!
1:56 despite all that ,it does look effing cool as hell....
More like these? Yes please !
This is so awesome!!
Cool, I was hoping for a part two.
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I'm relieved that the Master Sword is given the Seal of Approval.
Because come on, no only is it Beautiful as a Design. It can be practical too with little issues
I can get why Frostmourne can seem like it's overdesigned and a bit much, but believe me when I say that it's easily one of the more sensible designs I've seen out of Warcraft, barring the obviously more standard looking sword designs. In fact, it's even cooler because it looks like it's kind of practical for what it is. It's easily one of the coolest designs I've come across in fantasy. Sure, a lot of ornamentation, but for a cursed sword that steals souls? That's exactly what I would picture when I think of just that.
Funny you mention possesed blades however.. Whilst Frostmourne itself can't animate itself to fight and shit, it does seem to have a form of sentience to it. Plus, Death Knights in Warcraft (which the dude who wields this, Arthas, is effectively the first of them) have an ability where they can animate weapons to fight for them for a short period of time. Arthas himself never does this himself, but other Death Knights can do it.
Easily one of the most iconic weapons of fantasy however, and hands down *the* most iconic weapon in all of Warcraft. And hilariously, it's the most practical of the more iconic weapons from Warcraft to boot. Truly a weapon fit for a king.
Its kind of funny how they even had the audacity to put description comfortable handling on that sword when its blatantly obviously that you are not going to get comfortable handling with such a weapon.
Epitome of weapon not meant for humans: Buster Sword of Final Fantasy VII and it's Remake. It is meant to arm supersoldiers who are superhumanly strong and made with magitek process.
The spiky grip parts of Frostmourne were added on in redesigns, and are often embellished for props or visuals - it WAS meant to scar the spirit, so I guess in part through the pain of gripping that handle! Though your comment about "If it was meant to fly around" does have some merit in-game - the class created by the wielder of Frostmourne, Death Knights (yeah, edgy name), do take from his abilities and weapon style and have a skill called Dancing Rune Weapon, which does have the weapon float to fight and assist you for a time without having to be held.
I love the Fravahar on the wall
For keyblade, the 'accessories flails' are supposed to be significantly shorter. Like, literally keychain length.
Very appropriate that you used rebellion as the safety lecture considering how often Dante ends up getting stabbed by it.
Skallagrim forgot to bring a snack.
Remember, Frostmourne hungers...
Well he did mention holding by the blade, and well we all know what happens when someone touches Frostmourne's blade
Love the video!
see thats the neat part about frostmourne! you may have to be undead to use it, but if you're alive and you DO try to use it, it'll steal your soul and MAKE you undead!
Note about keyblade, the key part is supposed to be behind the swing. So it would hit with the shaft, more like a baton or mace than an axe
I Imagine wearing gloves in combat changes the feel and handling of a weapon in combat as well, gonna start getting slippery when the red stuff starts flying everywhere.
Thismis proberly your best video i want more
The point about living/possessed swords is actually a good one. It would make it even harder to "tame it" if not partially useless to loot afterward (aside of melting it for materials) if you can't even hold it properly. It's a nice defense mechanism for that kind of artifact/monster
The idea of Skallagrim running a Mall Ninja store makes me laugh.
Make some sparring videos with Broadswords and sabers! I love them because you add a really nice flair to saprring vids.
I would like it @Skallagrim would review the D&D Flame Tongue Weapons! just be careful when handleing that hot blade! 😉
No no. It is clearly a retention device for when the guard causes you to let go of the sword. Insert the ball. The moment you drop the sword you will panic, then clench, and the retention device will do its job.
appreciate you didn't seem to be in utter disgust of the Rebellion haha DMC is one of my fav series
I mean, its probably amongst the most reasonable fantasy swords. Even at full size, its mostly just the size and weight that immediately stand out. The indents near the point might be weird but I don't know enough to say for sure.
Fitting for Dante's primary weapon, a simple longsword he uses with super strength and coordination. Then you get all the weird shit he collects during the game.
I have always loved Frostmourne as Fantasy nonsense, as even as a child I knew there was too much on that sword. But that over the top edginess made it cool to me then, and it does now.
Skall video in my notifications? The day is acceptable.
Those meager spikes provide grip for the very rough-skinned and oved death knight hand
Looking at fantasy weapons to determine their practicality as functional weapons is interesting - both fun and potentially educational. The PSA was well thought, too.
It should be noted that when considering whether a weapon would be fit for purpose, its often obvious that it could (in theory) work for non-humans of various types but not for us. However, in a fantasy setting even humans may not have the same abilities and/or limitations that we do. The setting matters. A weapon that would be useless for real world humans (us) might actually be fit for purpose for them. It is probably generally true, though, that creators and designers of fictional weaponry think more about how 'cool' a weapon is, or looks, than how fit for purpose it is. 😉
My only, minor, quibble is that some of us (me, lol) might not recognise or identify all of them. A brief mention of their name and origin/world/setting would be good (e.g. Frostmourne, World of Warcraft). The names in the vid title doesn't place which name goes with which weapon, or tell us which world it comes from. I'm guessing many will know, but still ...
Is that the owner of the shop just chilling back in his office. "I don't know man, I just work here."
Link's sword is basically a Claymore reskinned. I love it.
Frostmourne hurting the wielder is lore-accurate ^^
Frostmore is really design for the Lich King to use: dead, magic, and dead
NGL, adding spikes to a handle so that only an undead who can't feel pain can wield it comfortably is one of the better fantasy weapon ideas I've seen.
I'd love to see you redesign mall Ninja weapons. Like keeping it as close to the original as posible but making them functional
they even fit the assassins creed logo on that frostmournes guard lmao
This is the most "Link is not a superhuman" video I've ever seen.
Fun fact about frostmourne: in lore you literally need magic to wield it! In the novel Arthas: Rise of the Lich King, in the section were he starts to lose the power the lich king gives him it actually descibes Frostmourne goimg from an elegant death dealer to an unwieldy hunk of metal.
The novel was trash and broke lore
I didn't remember that, but it makes a lot of sense.
I have fun watching Skal have fun.
Hyped
Arthas had much larger hands than you, Skal.
Quick look at the thumbnail. "Why has Skall red circled his junk.. Oh🤦" 😂
Listen, Skall, stop and take a look at the arms of a human in World of Warcraft. These guys have biceps which are literally the size of their own heads. Their wrists are bigger around than your knees. Hefting that giant sword is nothing for these absolute units.
Even then frostmourne is still awkwardly designed with a geometry that's going to make binding actions difficult because opposing weapons will either slide off or get tangled in unpredictable ways
My favorite fantasy sword is Glamdring from the LOTR
Ooooohhhh, do a review on the buster sword:)))
Skall, if you get the chance, there is a very specific video game sword that I would love for you to do a fantasy analysis of. The weapon in question is the sword of Caim, from the Drakengard video game franchise. In the first Drakengard, Caim's sword was your starting weapon, and its stats were kind of average. But even when you unlocked a bunch of other weapons, Caim's sword remained easily the most reliable and effective weapon in the entire game! And in Drakengard 2, Caim's sword was a sword you had to unlock in order to use, but once you DID unlock it, it was one of the STRONGEST weapons in the game. Caim's sword is honestly just as iconic as the character of Caim himself: a man who takes being sadistically insane and bloodthirsty and makes it look like the most epic state of mind EVER.
The crossguard on Links sword is facing forward on that sword which is good, compared to the image from the website.. looks awesome when made like the sword Skall is testing 😊
Keyblades reminds me of the Power sword that came with the 80s He-Man toy.
Probably my favorite fantasy sword that doesn't get talked about enough, is Alucard's Crissaegrim, specifically from Lords of Shadow 2.
Lich King: Arthas, my champion, first of my Death Knights, it is time to forge your new armour! State your preferences, and I shall...
Arthas: Big, thick leather gloves! Please! Ouch!
Lich King: Oh yeah. Fair enough.
Awww yeah that was the red queen I love that one!
Good to hear Cara still has her priorities straight.
I'm not surprised that Rebellion and the Master Sword pass, at least relatively speaking. They're very "no frills" compared to most other fantasy swords out there, and the proportions on them aren't horrible.