Allen Bradley HMI Data Logging-ActiveX Control-Part 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
- 1. 2 of many benefits of “ActiveX Control” compared to “Data Log Models”:
a. Data logging can start/stop manually by a trigger variable with Active X Control.
b. “FactoryTalk View File Viewer” is no longer required. Data is saved directly to an excel file (.csv)
2. DataStore Plus Active X setup
a. ME DataStore Plus Properties
b. ME DataStore Plus Properties/FileLocation
4 HMI tags with 1 for each location that data log will be saved to:
• DL_Saved_To_PC String Memory C:\RW_ActiveX\DataLog_ActiveX_PC.csv
• DL_Saved_To_SD String Memory \Storage Card2\DataLog_ActiveX_SD.csv
• DL_Saved_To_USB String Memory \USB Storage\DataLog_ActiveX_USB.csv
• DL_Saved_To_HMI String Memory \Windows\Desktop\DL_ACTX\DataLog_ActiveX_HMI.csv
c. ME DataStore Plus Properties/Triger
• Data_Log_Run Digital Memory 0
d. ME DataStore Plus Properties/Tag
• O2_CONTENT
• DISCHARGE_PRESSURE
3. Testing
a. DL_Saved_To_PC
b. DL_Saved_To_SD
c. DL_Saved_To_USB
d. DL_Saved_To_HMI
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More than helpful Not even Rockwell Automation has something as clear as this one. Thank you for taking your time and dedication to explain it on this way.
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Very good video. The best explanation and procedure.
We started using the ActiveX component DataStore Plus about seven years ago. What we found is if you're not on the display with the ActiveX component it won't log the data. We created a separate data storage display and put the DataStore Plus ActiveX component on it and then we chose that screen in Startup. We also changed the display settings so that the display type is On Top and Cannot be replaced. This assures that the DataStore Plus is always running.
@Robert Potter: Thank you for sharing your experience. I think it starts logging the data only when the "trigger" in the "connections" is ON. I might have to try it again.
@@SYPHOANG Yes, you are correct, but if you're not on the display with the ActiveX component it will not log.
@@robertpotter4700 I am kinda having the same issue. Even when I am on that screen it's not logging. I tried logging on USB and desktop with no success.
@@wadihzaklit764 Make sure the file location is correct under connections. We always store to the memory card, but Rockwell calls it "Storage Card2". Newer touch screens they call it "Storage Card".
Thank you for taking your time do this video. It’s very useful
Awesome video! Thanks for sharing!
@controlsgirl: Thank you for subscribing and your support to my channel.
Super video
Thanks a lot for your tutorial !
Finally I got the communication done and transferred the meter data from Phoenix plc
@Sharad patle: What is the model number of the Phoenix PLC you have? What communication driver you set up between PLC and the meter? I wish I have a Phoenix PLC to help you.
@@SYPHOANG ilc 151 plc , Schindler em6436H
Great brother'
Thanks a lot.
@Jagan S: Glad to help. Thank you for subscribing to my channel.
A very nice and informative video as always
Thank you Mr. Hoang. Can this be done with FTVIEW ME version 5.0 which I have on an old existing HMI.
@anthonybuddini2828: Unfortunately, I have never had an HMI that old to try it out for you. But I don't think that it is available on version 5.0.
@@SYPHOANG oh, no worries. Thank you for the reply Mr. Hoang.
@anthonybuddini2828: Thank you for your support to my channel.
Dear Mr. Sy,
Thank you for your videos. What is the best way to track user's action in the HMI? I am using FT ME.
@Tôn Nguyễn: I am not sure how you want to track user's activities. I think data logging is a good way for what you are looking for. For all critical parameters, you can set to collect data every minutes. If something happens, you can trace the collected data for what has been changed. This is the only thing we can offer our customers. Hopefully this answers your question. Thank you for subscribing to my channel.
Can you expand a bit on file location tag.This is not a plc tag?Also on startup do you select data logging when run?A bit more on data_log_run trigger?Forgive me,new and trying to begin data logging,although very familiar w/hmi...
@David Seay: No, they are not PLC tags. @3:20: in the "Explorer" panel on the left, you will find "Tags" under "HMI tags" where you can create local HMI tags such as "Data_Log_Run" and "DL_Saved_To_SD". This part 3 video is completely separate from part 1 and 2. You do not need to create a data log model and do not need to add anything to "Start up" to start logging data. Thank you for subscribing to my channel. Should you have any questions or need any support, just let me know.
Can just use trigger once receive 1 time value ? 7:00
I see minimum data collect only 1 s can I make it less than that ? Because my timer in/off only less than 1 second , I put less than 500ms I get not excel update. I only can get data for 900 ms
@ansonkiek6471: Unfortunately I never tried it before.
Which path should I write in data log models for get data to pendrive?
@chetan kawate: It should be for USB connection. The path I included in the video description.
Thanks for you video, ypu can share other video but datalogin in a remote server please. Regards
@saul mendoza: I am not sure if this is possible but unfortunately I don't have a remote server to try it.
Hello, Great video. Can DL be saved on the HMI, and then the operator can transfer it over to the USB? What is the proper procedure to create a screen for this? Popup, Ontop, and Cannot be replaced, and what are the coordinates for the popup screen? I would like to be able to hide the screen so it is not blocking the process screen. Thank you very much!
@Amonlath Douangvongsa: Yes, DL can be saved to multiple different locations as I showed on the video. However, it is configured in the HMI program. You can do the same. Just create different buttons on your HMI screens with one for each different location you want to save DL to. However, I really don't think you can easily transfer it from local HMI drive to an attached USB unless an operator can exit out of the HMI application and go to the HMI window operating system @13:57
@@SYPHOANG Thank you. I was able to create a test application to log to (USB or C: drive) without any issue. When using the PC runtime, everything works perfectly with data populated. When logging from the HMI to the USB. I can view files on the USB stick from my PC. When I try viewing the file with excel, the file is empty. I can see there are data in the file (file size) but cannot view them. Same application. My colleagues cannot view the file either. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
@@amonlathdouangvongsa9958 : My apologies for the late response. You might want to check out the below video. Have you ever tried this software “FactoryTalk View File Viewer”?
th-cam.com/video/37ukej2VlCQ/w-d-xo.html
@@SYPHOANG Sorry for the late response. I am working on a HOT project for a customer and we're on the final stress. I'm still having issues viewing the log.csv from the PanelView plus 7 performance series B. I have contacted Rockwell tech support and have been working on this for a few weeks now. Their HMI department is not the same anymore. I was working with an engineer there for years and he was great. Unfortunately, I don't think he is there anymore. This is supposed to be a very simple process but turns into a major headache. They can't resolve the issue. I have done testing with multiple HMIs, SD cards & USB thumb drives, and tried viewing the file with multiple laptops. PVP is creating files correctly on the USB thumb drive. It works perfectly when running from the PC but not from the HMI. I think there is a firmware issue or bugs on the hardware. We have 12 HMIs in-house and 3/3 failed. This is not possible. I am very frustrated with Rockwell tech support (HMI). The next step is to bring Rockwell to our company and see if they can get them to work. I'm not a member of any engineering groups/forums. I was hoping to see if anyone had a similar issue. This is a fairly new HMI/hardware.
Great video! Mr Hoang please let me know how to create a csv file in a computer dedicated for logging the file, not the lap that has all programming softwares. Also I would like to create the csv file each cycle machine in each file, currently I can record many cycles of machine in one file and automatically is create a new file every hour.
@Alberto Escobar: I do not quite understand your first question "not the lap that has all programming softwares"? This is how ActiveX works. You can use it to tell the HMI to store the captured data to a specified location "File Location". It can be either the HMI internal memory, a USB or your PC. However, you can only give it a location, NOT an existing .csv file on your PC for it to override with the captured data.
For your second question: Yes, you can create multiple ActiveX, one for each machine data you want to capture and store separately.
I guess you already know how to make it start a new file every certain time. Just in case you don't know, below is the instruction:
@1:18 In "ME DataStore Plus Properties", Under "General" tab, you can select "Periodic" and set how often/when you want it to start a new file.
Please let me know if you have any more questions. Thank you for subscribing to my channel :)
Hi Sy. Do you thing there is a way to save the datalog file in internal memory and the user could handle the file to save it to usb later?
@Javier Burgoa: yes, you can easily set it up but you will need to the HMI password to exit to the HMI windows desktop in order to access the file and move it to the USB stick location.
If you use the below file location, the file will be saved right on the HMI windows desktop.
DL_Saved_To_HMI String Memory \Windows\Desktop\DL_ACTX\DataLog_ActiveX_HMI.csv
Thank you for subscribing to my channel. Should you have any more questions, just let me know.
@@SYPHOANG great. BTW. Do you know how to open a display with a macro after one display is closed?
@@muon537 : You might want to check this out.
(@1:50) th-cam.com/video/oWqgw6TTdco/w-d-xo.html
In what type i have to format my usb stick to make it work with a Panel view Plus 7 ? And is the path always the same ? Thank you !
@elianousdu30: USB sticks should be formatted to FAT32. The path is always the same. Thank you for your comment.
@@SYPHOANG Thank you very much !
My data wont store in USB drive
@PAN INDIA JOBS: You might want to format the USB from the HMI. Not all USB drives are the same.
In hmi pvp7 can you help for reporting
@shubham singh: I think data-logging is the only way to generate a report from PVP HMIs.
Great video.i will be viewing your videos.can you expand on catalog and data log run and dl saved to PC tag creation and specifics or direct me to video?Thanks
@David Seay: I am not sure what you want to know more about "catalog"? "Data_Log_Run" and "DL_Saved_To_PC" are just local HMI tags. @3:20 in the "Explorer" panel on the left, you will find "Tags" under "HMI tags". Should you have any more questions just let me know. Thank you for subscribing to my channel.
Hola ing como puedo visualizar una camara termografica que cuenta con un webserver y poderla observar en panel View 1250
@Deny: Unfortunately, I do not have any experience making Allen Bradley HMI work with a webserver device.
@@SYPHOANG Gracias Ing. Saludos desde Mexico
Hi why some only trigger and stop in row 1k or sometimes in 2k ?
@ansonkiek6471: 1k, 2k ? Would you please explain it a bit more?
@@SYPHOANG my data write until 2k then stopped for example file created on 7/31 , I see only store until 2/9 and stopped working
@ansonkiek6471: I still don't understand what do you mean for 2k? is 2k a year? is 7/31 a date? do you have data logged into an SD card? or the HMI internal memory? if it's logged into the HMI internal memory, it might be full and stop logging.
@@SYPHOANG 2k is data store in CSV row , and I use usb store my CSV data
I see my CSV file in pen drive created in 7/31 and CSV last recorded only until2/9 how possible stop due to hmi internal memory full ?
@ansonkiek6471: I guess 7/31 is July 31st and 2/9 is February 9th? You might need to check your "trigger" tag.
Hi Mr.Hoang, thanks for share your video. Its possible to access this same data using ethernet IP? Can you teaching for all?
@Nilson: Data can can captured and stored at different locations but I do not think you can get easily copy/access captured data over Ethernet IP. The only way I can think of is to make your computer as an HMI so that you can capture data from PLC and store it directly on your computer local drive. Is this what you are looking for?
@@SYPHOANG I thought about being able to capture this data and send it on a server. Because in the company I work for we don't have this version of FactoryTalk Site Edition, and I would like to keep a history that can be accessed at any time. Thanks for the quick return.
@@nilsongutierresfilho6433 : Are you looking for a cloud storage instead of just datalogging? Allen Bradley does not have the cloud storage that you are looking for. But a new Phoenix Contact PLC Next can capture data and store it in the Proficloud server that you can see live data along with historical data for system monitoring or data analysis wirelessly anywhere, anytime from internet. I will share it soon (maybe next week). Thank you for subscribing to my channel.
@@SYPHOANG Thanks . I understand.
Is it possible to use the trend feature showing eight pens and their captions?
@Javier Burgoa: Thank you for subscribing to my channel. Yes, I am sure it is possible and pretty easy. Should you have any questions or need any support, just let me know.
@@SYPHOANG @SY P HOANG
Sy,
I inserted a trend on a display, with its eight temperature tags in it. It shows the pens, but not their instantaneous values (the value) and captions associating with their colors. Backwards compared with the older versions of FTVME
@Javier Burgoa: Somehow it works for me with 2 pens. Is the below what you are looking for?
th-cam.com/video/W-FhY18VDVo/w-d-xo.html
@@SYPHOANG Thank you. That leads me to construct the values and colors. I thought there was a way to extract the captions and values from the trend object as it is shown in the trend from Logix Studio or RSLogix 500. Very good example.
@Javier Burgoa: Trends can be created from logged data instead of the other way around. Trends in Studio5000 or RsLogix500 is for testing/troubleshooting only. I do not think you can capture and store data from it to your computer.
Can i send values of an arraw in a Csv file the same way ?
@Jack Qc: l don’t think so since arrays are in the PLC only. When you work on HMI program, you always work on array elements if there is an array in the logic. I don’t think it’s possible but you can try.
In fact, this method looks quite easy. But so slow at 250ms.
I have 2000 values to log so 8 minutes is too long
@Jack Qc: l tried to log only a few (5-10) variables and log values only every 5 or 10s. It looks ok to me. However, I have a friend and he also recommended me to go with the other methods. I think you are right about this. Thank you for your comments.