Re: Doom performance. Radeon OpenGL drivers have been pretty poor for the longest time, so switching to Vulkan would've probably netted at least a few more frames.
No arguments here with thermal paste, it doesn't matter if you do a blob, a cross, a circle, a square, a heart the flag of Georgia or a miniature Mona Lisa. It's how much you put on that matters because the heatsink will squash anything down in any style the same way and you all you need it to do is to have a nice coverage of the CPU without spilling over the edge. So if you are better at judging how much is enough with a blob, do a blob, if you are better at judging how much with a cross do a cross and etc..
I always do the x thermal paste, and when I installed my wraith prism my son almost had to stand on the clip while I fastened it, you made it look so easy.
I agree with you 100% on garish lighting for a work computer, however, setting some fixed soft orange lighting for the interior especially for computers that have windows is useful to know the computer is on.
I completely agree with the way you install the power supply when the case allows for air draw from the top. That’s the way I install them because I don’t know what environment they will be using the rig in. There’s just not enough gap on the bottom of a case for air intake on anything but a wood floor. Lots of rigs end up on a carpeted floor. On a second note, you’re drawing in some pretty fresh air from the case with its’ multiple fans.
Thanks for the tips. I am just about to replace a 10 year old rig with the 5600G and similar components to those in the video. I am not a gamer but looking forward to the performance boost.
About two years ago, my ASUS gaming laptop died. I suspected a thermal paste issue. Either the Core i7 or the GTX 1070 was overheating and throttling. Wish I knew about your channel then, no doubt you could have fixed it for me. Your channel is amazing!
The start of this video messed with my head 😂 It looks like you are stood behind the desk at the top! I couldn’t work out what was going on. Then I realised it was the pip
I think Fractal intended the bottom holes for the smaller front panel and fan connectors and the usb c would come through the rubber grommet on the right of the connector, but I agree it looks way better from the bottom and all they had to do was make the holes larger.
I have a Meshify C compact, and I think it is one of the best mid-range mATX cases, unless you want to go to a InWin 301C for an ultra-compact build with compromises. I would recommend this case for anyone doing the budget mATX route.
I did not realize it at first, but the HDMI was not working on my 5700G build. I would get some strange purple mess on my screen. I had done all of my initial testing using the working Display Port. I had originally installed the latest driver found for the AUS ROG Strix B5550-F Gaming (wifi) from the ASUS web site. Luckily the driver updater tool from the AMD site found a later driver that took care of the problem. Seems to be a very cool running build. More often than not when I put my hand behind the rear fan, I feel cool air coming out of the case.
To answer your question about 20+4 ATX connectors still existing, it's useful for retro PC collectors who don't trust the caps in a PC made 20 or more years ago.
I'm with just keeping the PC off the floor, it's going to suck in more dust and fluff just as a consequence of being on the floor. If you don't like a big ugly box up on show, choose something more compact and discreet or put it on a unit beside the desk that sits lower (but away from floor level). It's the same logic as not sticking a game console on the floor really, it's not a stretch to suggest that people don't situate their PC on the floor.
The PC case I have, a Thermaltake Versa H22, came with a 120mm rear fan, but I got a cooler master RGB 5 pack. Plan on installing all 5, replacing the stock rear fan, as the CFM on the new fans is better. The case comes with extra standoff posts, clips, & fasteners. Your build is a good reference. Thanks again 🤓 the Prism only has a clip-on mounting? Not the standard 4 screws?🤔 Great cable routing! Plan on an M.2, SSD, HDD, & a CD/DVD drive.
Really enjoy your videos buddy, great commentary hopefully you will get lots of gear sent to you to do more reviews 👍...keep doing the repair/diagnostic vids too though as they are the most gripping 👍
You have never seen a Turkisch or Maroccan wedding. The family and friends rent cars like Roll Royes and Ferarris and take over the streets, blocking all traffic while revving the engines. Ignoring all traffic lights etc. So you can bring every car to a wedding :-)
I built essentially the same system at the end of 2021. Don't know if you've come across a similar problem, but I discovered that the power button on the front panel is so sensitive that when I insert a usb stick or a headphone plug, the system would shut down. I've disabled the button in the Windows power settings and if I need to shut down the PC I do it from within Windows. Fractal take note please.
I saw from the original non flashed bios the time to POST was about 20 seconds. Didn't get the after bios update POST time as you edited that bit short. Any idea on the improvement to bios POST time?
For retrogaming , emulation or playing older titles this apu is a lil monster . to build a compact system ( like amini itx build ) it would make a decent multimedia pc .however those apu's love high frequency dual channel memory with very low latency . for casual gaming at low settings or for studying /working it's a good bang for the buck. the 5700g cost a lot more and gives about 10% better performance in gaming for +2 more cores and +1 vega core. the 5600g makes more sense for budget builds . the cost is just above the 3600 and you get better cpu performance + vega graphics so its a good value .
I totally agree with you saying that anything below a 1050 Ti or a 960 is a 'media card', and I say that as someone who uses a GTX 960 4GB in my main PC. Not because I can't afford better, but because it's the cheapest GPU that is good enough for gaming. That being said, Cyberpunk 2077 is not a great experience with a GTX 960. You can make it work, but it definitely looks like a 10 year old game if you want ~40fps at 1080p. Anything older is even worse in Cyberpunk btw. Even the GTX 780 Ti and GTX 780 6GB I have perform worse in Cyberpunk than even a 1050 Ti w/o power connectors. This is due to their abysmal DX12 support. I would therefore absolutely advise against buying 700-series cards in 2021, except for ultra budget systems, if you can find one for say €30.
Great video. I like lbc! Comments: - GT 1010/1030? -I really want to know the work which needs a 6 core cpu and such a nice ssd but no gpu? - great ssd Choice! - my weeding test would need a metal sidepanal but the case is great
Hey Adamant IT, you should check out the Cooler Master NR400 (mATX) and the NR600 (ATX) cases. They have an ODD cage but it's removable. The Phanteks P300A is a compact ATX case you might like.
Integrated graphics with the 5600G with the plan in mind to drop in a GPU when availability/pricing improves. That's a good plan in my mind. Hardcore gamers possibly have a GTX 960 or similar card sitting around anyway. If your card dies on you at least you have reasonable onboard graphics to fall back on. In these current times I think almost everyone should go for a CPU that has the APU or IGP.. It won't cost you much more generally speaking. Better to have it than not need it rather than not have and need.
That was a very elegant build. Please tweak your fan configuration next time: having both top fans as exhausts means that the front one steals a lot of the cold air coming in from the front fans, particularly the higher front fan. You should have the rear top fan as exhaust, but either omit the front top fan or have it as input. And if the case is to be laid on its side then have all four fans blowing in. I was somewhat bemused to see you separate out one GPU power cable and tidy away the other. I know the cable has two plugs, but I'd rather see the 300W maximum power go through two separate cables. While I agree with you about PSU placement, be careful when it comes to the edge case of very power-hungry builds: a PSU that needs to output 1000W will be drawing 1250W from the wall if it is 80% efficient at that load so will need to exhaust that extra 250W as heat. I appreciate that your target market is unlikely to invoke this - unless Caradog wants a dual / triple A6000 Threadripper Pro 3995WX build, of course!
Hi Graham. About to do a build similar to the one in the video. Same processor and motherboard. Currently I have a GTX950 (don't laugh) installed in the PC I will be replacing. As I right in assuming that the onboard graphics would be superior to that graphic card? Only games I tend to play are things like WOW, Diablo, Age of Empire and maybe CS Source now and again.
not sure they're targeted as a gaming option just somewhat of a saving where if you dont need a dedicated card then this is a great option for Office type thing or as a HTPC
Jeesh ...where they keep the cpu in the box that seems kind of scary could get damaged quite easily, basically they were using it for padding for the cooler.
downside: no QuickSync (but from what i understand, Adobe doesn't use it in some encode settings?) upsides: -acceptable GPU performance -stupidly good at sipping power compared to Intel TDP dumpster fire -can run on even a $60 board (i ran an i7-860 til about a year ago on a $60 board!) -awesomely open path towards 16 cores on same AM4 socket -could even run that 16 core cpu (barely, with modest airflow over the VRM at load) on an $80 Pro4 board -builds up AMD's R&D warchest for future competition so that we're not stuck in a situation with 4 cores for > $300 like Intel had us at when the 7700K came out
Just for comparison I'm running a 11400f on a b560 tomahawk mb with a msi gtx 970 stock.3d mark graphics score 3642 & cpu score 8466,time spy score 3982.looking forward to 3060ti when prices get reasonable.
@@Adamant_IT Should be standard procedure to include it, in case the user might need to do their own troubleshooting. Especially since that motherboard had no LED POST code display.
Pros may need a Threadripper platform with an RTX 3090. But I think the budget was the dictator on that configuration result. That 5600G is best with a mini ITX build; but definitely you won't go to the wedding with a Fiat 500! 😂 Game-ready? Your range may vary. But it still a rock-solid choice for budget gamers and beginners. If there's a GPU in hand, or included in your budget: Intel might be your better choice if you calculate the differences. 3600Mhz Corsair memory with lose timings, and a pricy nvme is disappointing.
The PC I am building will have the 5600G. Need RAM & a DP cable, then I can start the build. Building it for a variety of uses, not primarily for gaming. Want to have good type /speed RAM for some gaming, 3D modeling, & regular programs. Thanks again! 🤓 I might also upgrade the CPU fan for better performance & CPU longevity. Does the Prism have better heat transfer?
The Prism is... OK™. A 3rd party e-sports cooler will out perform it, and if you plan on doing any overclocking (especially if you were going to do a lot of iGPU clocking) you'd want something bigger than the Prism. But it's absolutely fit for purpose. I used it because I had one on hand, but if you're buying a cooler, I'd pay a little more and go for 3rd party solution.
@@Adamant_IT I don't really do any overclocking as I don't have to have the highest FPS possible! About the only 2 games I sorta plan on playing are mechwarrior 5 & the latest version of unreal tournament. I also want to mess with unreal engine, & some 3D CAD or modeling. Thanks again for your time and help! Ironically, I have an AMD 3600 CPU, new, unopened. Got it in anticipation of getting a 5500 or 5600 GPU!
Lovely build. Seems a tad overkill for what they wanted though. I mean, if all they wanted was a powerful desktop, not a full gaming rig, they could've just gotten some piece of crap from Curries. At least this would be serviceable for a while though, unlike the shelfers.
Very nice looking professional productivity build! One question though.. why did you cut the cooler rgb connector off instead of just hiding it under the edge of the cooler? (Just in case the customer at some point decided they did want to use the rgb some day)
It's soldered to the board, so one way or the other there was going to be a bare wire there. Not like it's an expensive cooler though, just swap out for another one.
That's my case, it's ok but shows the age. I like the looks, not in to the "Gamer" styles. The front air filter blocks a lot of air flow which can be a pain but every time I vacuum it the dust comes out so works. If I was to buy today id look at the new torrent one or any case with big fans for that airflow. I had PSU up until I got a RTX 3060 TI, after that the PSU shut down thanks to extra heat :P. The PSU was drinking all the hot air from the GPU and hitting the over temp protection.
Yea it can drive the HDMI and display port at the same time. Additionally, a lot of DisplayPort monitors have daisy-chain, so you can string two or three monitors into one port.
I got a 5700G and a gigabyte 550 board and am building system without a graphics card (because of prices right now). Should I try to try the q flash bios before I assemble, or just build it, and try to boot. Will I even be able to boot to bios if the cpu is that new??
Should be able to boot - however I've seen some people have issues booting first time without a GPU fitted, so I'd try to have _something_ on hand to POST it. If it can't boot without a GPU, stick in a card and set the BIOS to "iGPU First".
Thermal paste can "go off", so I prefer to have smaller tubes that get used up quicker. I stock them anyway, and they're not expensive, so it's easier to use the small ones and not worry about wasting half a tube that's gone watery and separated.
It's never the same after that I find. There's no useful cost saving with big tubes unless you're doing several CPUs a day, and I tend to average maybe 1 a day.
Remove it. You can just wipe it off with some kitchen roll or loo roll. Isopropyl Alcohol (or the less pure "rubbing alcohol") makes it easier if you have some laying around.
5600g or 3700x? i can't decide, i want the most recent cpu for future proofing BUT the 2 extra cores make the 3700x tempting. btw they are the exact same price.
I'm curious on why you used a 600W PSU for that build? Was it a discount or something because a built like this would surely have been fine with a 350W PSU, no?
"Who the hell is buying brand new power supplies for 20-pin ATX boards" - those who like vintage computers, and like them to run reliably with modern PSUs.
Bought a new power supply for a 2013 HP that I thought needed one it used a 20 pin turns out it was a dead board (not surprising as its an HP and not an actually good computer).
i got mxp in my bios but it wont enable i have asus tuf b365m-plus and 32 gigs of ripjaw 5 @2666 why cant i use mxp? anyone have an answer? oh also a i5 9400f cpu.
@@Adamant_IT I knew it would by default install the windows that you have but i like how you have all versions on one flash drive . I have learned a lot watching your channel on youtube about computer repair .
20:26 after installing pc power supply upside down “you can build your pc anyway you like” you just made “The Verge” validated and happy 😊👍🎉🥳 hehe 🙃
Thank you - this has shown me that I can readily update from my passively-cooled 1030 set-up [not a gamer] & get a simpler & cooler rig.
Re: Doom performance. Radeon OpenGL drivers have been pretty poor for the longest time, so switching to Vulkan would've probably netted at least a few more frames.
Really nice build. I enjoyed seeing a non-gaming build for once. Very practical.
But if you build for gaming, it will have no trouble doing anything else……….food for thought.
Nice build Graham would love to see you doing a mini pc with 5700g something like a asrock deskmimi or a itx build 🙂
No arguments here with thermal paste, it doesn't matter if you do a blob, a cross, a circle, a square, a heart the flag of Georgia or a miniature Mona Lisa. It's how much you put on that matters because the heatsink will squash anything down in any style the same way and you all you need it to do is to have a nice coverage of the CPU without spilling over the edge. So if you are better at judging how much is enough with a blob, do a blob, if you are better at judging how much with a cross do a cross and etc..
I always do the x thermal paste, and when I installed my wraith prism my son almost had to stand on the clip while I fastened it, you made it look so easy.
Thank you for sharing this build. Less busy with wires, which is great. Keep up the good work.
I agree with you 100% on garish lighting for a work computer, however, setting some fixed soft orange lighting for the interior especially for computers that have windows is useful to know the computer is on.
I completely agree with the way you install the power supply when the case allows for air draw from the top. That’s the way I install them because I don’t know what environment they will be using the rig in. There’s just not enough gap on the bottom of a case for air intake on anything but a wood floor. Lots of rigs end up on a carpeted floor. On a second note, you’re drawing in some pretty fresh air from the case with its’ multiple fans.
Agree w/you on intergrated I/O Shields being one of the greatest inventions of late.
Thanks for the tips. I am just about to replace a 10 year old rig with the 5600G and similar components to those in the video. I am not a gamer but looking forward to the performance boost.
About two years ago, my ASUS gaming laptop died. I suspected a thermal paste issue. Either the Core i7 or the GTX 1070 was overheating and throttling. Wish I knew about your channel then, no doubt you could have fixed it for me. Your channel is amazing!
The start of this video messed with my head 😂 It looks like you are stood behind the desk at the top! I couldn’t work out what was going on. Then I realised it was the pip
That's a pretty case, nice to see an apu build in these times
I think Fractal intended the bottom holes for the smaller front panel and fan connectors and the usb c would come through the rubber grommet on the right of the connector, but I agree it looks way better from the bottom and all they had to do was make the holes larger.
Unusual to see two uploads from adamantIT on a Saturday. I missed the live stream today due to watching the redbull cities skyline challenge
I guess I am the only one fascinated by the new haircut.
Use an epoxy putty to bond the stand off driver to the end of an old pozi screwdriver.
Can't lose it then and it's always ready for action.
12:27 lint free cloth “that’s very tasty” ….. oh no 🤦♀️🤦 I’ve tuned into TastyPC ahhhh!🤯💥
I have a Meshify C compact, and I think it is one of the best mid-range mATX cases, unless you want to go to a InWin 301C for an ultra-compact build with compromises. I would recommend this case for anyone doing the budget mATX route.
Top tip - the motherboard box makes a handy makeshift testbed to make sure its good before screwing it into the case -
I did not realize it at first, but the HDMI was not working on my 5700G build. I would get some strange purple mess on my screen. I had done all of my initial testing using the working Display Port. I had originally installed the latest driver found for the AUS ROG Strix B5550-F Gaming (wifi) from the ASUS web site. Luckily the driver updater tool from the AMD site found a later driver that took care of the problem. Seems to be a very cool running build. More often than not when I put my hand behind the rear fan, I feel cool air coming out of the case.
If you want to see how hot your 5700G gets try running Cinebench. I was disappointed watching my Ryzen hit 92C and start throttling
damn i love Gigabyte motherboards. .. and they really knocked it outta the park with the x570's :)
Bro you rock!!! Can't wait for you to do a live stream!!!...
To answer your question about 20+4 ATX connectors still existing, it's useful for retro PC collectors who don't trust the caps in a PC made 20 or more years ago.
I'm with you on PSU up, when the case has vents. Or no psu cover at all.
I'm with just keeping the PC off the floor, it's going to suck in more dust and fluff just as a consequence of being on the floor. If you don't like a big ugly box up on show, choose something more compact and discreet or put it on a unit beside the desk that sits lower (but away from floor level). It's the same logic as not sticking a game console on the floor really, it's not a stretch to suggest that people don't situate their PC on the floor.
@@AOEOt31os Computer also serves as heater, air cleaner, and white noise generator.
8:12 I used my Be-Quiet Dark power Pro 11 650W with my 3080 and overclocked 7820x and had no issues.
The PC case I have, a Thermaltake Versa H22, came with a 120mm rear fan, but I got a cooler master RGB 5 pack. Plan on installing all 5, replacing the stock rear fan, as the CFM on the new fans is better. The case comes with extra standoff posts, clips, & fasteners. Your build is a good reference. Thanks again 🤓 the Prism only has a clip-on mounting? Not the standard 4 screws?🤔 Great cable routing! Plan on an M.2, SSD, HDD, & a CD/DVD drive.
Agree w/you on wishing the 24 pin ATX cable was one piece and not split off with a 4 pin.
Really enjoy your videos buddy, great commentary hopefully you will get lots of gear sent to you to do more reviews 👍...keep doing the repair/diagnostic vids too though as they are the most gripping 👍
You have never seen a Turkisch or Maroccan wedding. The family and friends rent cars like Roll Royes and Ferarris and take over the streets, blocking all traffic while revving the engines. Ignoring all traffic lights etc. So you can bring every car to a wedding :-)
But, what if the weddings theme was RGB? OOOF! Also, you can blame us Yanks on those darned imperial screws!
With thermal paste it‘s fine in my book if there’s none in the socket and the die is covered almost fully.
I built essentially the same system at the end of 2021. Don't know if you've come across a similar problem, but I discovered that the power button on the front panel is so sensitive that when I insert a usb stick or a headphone plug, the system would shut down. I've disabled the button in the Windows power settings and if I need to shut down the PC I do it from within Windows. Fractal take note please.
I saw from the original non flashed bios the time to POST was about 20 seconds. Didn't get the after bios update POST time as you edited that bit short. Any idea on the improvement to bios POST time?
For retrogaming , emulation or playing older titles this apu is a lil monster . to build a compact system ( like amini itx build ) it would make a decent multimedia pc .however those apu's love high frequency dual channel memory with very low latency . for casual gaming at low settings or for studying /working it's a good bang for the buck. the 5700g cost a lot more and gives about 10% better performance in gaming for +2 more cores and +1 vega core.
the 5600g makes more sense for budget builds . the cost is just above the 3600 and you get better cpu performance + vega graphics so its a good value .
I totally agree with you saying that anything below a 1050 Ti or a 960 is a 'media card', and I say that as someone who uses a GTX 960 4GB in my main PC. Not because I can't afford better, but because it's the cheapest GPU that is good enough for gaming.
That being said, Cyberpunk 2077 is not a great experience with a GTX 960. You can make it work, but it definitely looks like a 10 year old game if you want ~40fps at 1080p.
Anything older is even worse in Cyberpunk btw. Even the GTX 780 Ti and GTX 780 6GB I have perform worse in Cyberpunk than even a 1050 Ti w/o power connectors. This is due to their abysmal DX12 support. I would therefore absolutely advise against buying 700-series cards in 2021, except for ultra budget systems, if you can find one for say €30.
Great video. I like lbc! Comments:
- GT 1010/1030?
-I really want to know the work which needs a 6 core cpu and such a nice ssd but no gpu?
- great ssd Choice!
- my weeding test would need a metal sidepanal but the case is great
I was saying myself, oh no wrong board for bios! 😁
Hey Adamant IT, you should check out the Cooler Master NR400 (mATX) and the NR600 (ATX) cases. They have an ODD cage but it's removable.
The Phanteks P300A is a compact ATX case you might like.
Integrated graphics with the 5600G with the plan in mind to drop in a GPU when availability/pricing improves. That's a good plan in my mind. Hardcore gamers possibly have a GTX 960 or similar card sitting around anyway. If your card dies on you at least you have reasonable onboard graphics to fall back on. In these current times I think almost everyone should go for a CPU that has the APU or IGP.. It won't cost you much more generally speaking. Better to have it than not need it rather than not have and need.
thats an awesome machine!
That was a very elegant build.
Please tweak your fan configuration next time: having both top fans as exhausts means that the front one steals a lot of the cold air coming in from the front fans, particularly the higher front fan. You should have the rear top fan as exhaust, but either omit the front top fan or have it as input. And if the case is to be laid on its side then have all four fans blowing in.
I was somewhat bemused to see you separate out one GPU power cable and tidy away the other. I know the cable has two plugs, but I'd rather see the 300W maximum power go through two separate cables.
While I agree with you about PSU placement, be careful when it comes to the edge case of very power-hungry builds: a PSU that needs to output 1000W will be drawing 1250W from the wall if it is 80% efficient at that load so will need to exhaust that extra 250W as heat. I appreciate that your target market is unlikely to invoke this - unless Caradog wants a dual / triple A6000 Threadripper Pro 3995WX build, of course!
Hi Graham. About to do a build similar to the one in the video. Same processor and motherboard. Currently I have a GTX950 (don't laugh) installed in the PC I will be replacing. As I right in assuming that the onboard graphics would be superior to that graphic card? Only games I tend to play are things like WOW, Diablo, Age of Empire and maybe CS Source now and again.
not sure they're targeted as a gaming option just somewhat of a saving where if you dont need a dedicated card then this is a great option for Office type thing or as a HTPC
Nice build
Jeesh ...where they keep the cpu in the box that seems kind of scary could get damaged quite easily, basically they were using it for padding for the cooler.
you could have undone the 2 screws holding the PSU bracket and pulled the PSU out a bit to get the usb3 cable through the hole
23:12 This happened to me recently in this case had to put it through the 24 pin slot.
downside: no QuickSync (but from what i understand, Adobe doesn't use it in some encode settings?)
upsides: -acceptable GPU performance
-stupidly good at sipping power compared to Intel TDP dumpster fire
-can run on even a $60 board (i ran an i7-860 til about a year ago on a $60 board!)
-awesomely open path towards 16 cores on same AM4 socket
-could even run that 16 core cpu (barely, with modest airflow over the VRM at load) on an $80 Pro4 board
-builds up AMD's R&D warchest for future competition so that we're not stuck in a situation with 4 cores for > $300 like Intel had us at when the 7700K came out
The be quiet ! Pure Power 11 600W PSU I ordered 7/6/20 arrived DOA, so not of fan, LOL.
Just for comparison I'm running a 11400f on a b560 tomahawk mb with a msi gtx 970 stock.3d mark graphics score 3642 & cpu score 8466,time spy score 3982.looking forward to 3060ti when prices get reasonable.
At about 25:53 you seem to have maybe overlooked including a beeper/speaker, needed for hearing the POST codes.
I was about to plug one in, but then it POSTed. I usually don't connect the beeper unless I'm doing diagnostics.
@@Adamant_IT Should be standard procedure to include it, in case the user might need to do their own troubleshooting. Especially since that motherboard had no LED POST code display.
if u leaf a gap between 2 fans...the flow will be bigger, than having a gap at a side
Maybe try using MSFS 2020 for your tests...this will test any GPU/integrated graphics to the limit!
Pros may need a Threadripper platform with an RTX 3090. But I think the budget was the dictator on that configuration result.
That 5600G is best with a mini ITX build; but definitely you won't go to the wedding with a Fiat 500! 😂
Game-ready? Your range may vary. But it still a rock-solid choice for budget gamers and beginners.
If there's a GPU in hand, or included in your budget: Intel might be your better choice if you calculate the differences.
3600Mhz Corsair memory with lose timings, and a pricy nvme is disappointing.
could have moved the hecking video to the RH side when you were in the BIOS ;o)
The PC I am building will have the 5600G. Need RAM & a DP cable, then I can start the build. Building it for a variety of uses, not primarily for gaming. Want to have good type /speed RAM for some gaming, 3D modeling, & regular programs. Thanks again! 🤓 I might also upgrade the CPU fan for better performance & CPU longevity. Does the Prism have better heat transfer?
The Prism is... OK™.
A 3rd party e-sports cooler will out perform it, and if you plan on doing any overclocking (especially if you were going to do a lot of iGPU clocking) you'd want something bigger than the Prism. But it's absolutely fit for purpose. I used it because I had one on hand, but if you're buying a cooler, I'd pay a little more and go for 3rd party solution.
@@Adamant_IT I don't really do any overclocking as I don't have to have the highest FPS possible! About the only 2 games I sorta plan on playing are mechwarrior 5 & the latest version of unreal tournament. I also want to mess with unreal engine, & some 3D CAD or modeling. Thanks again for your time and help! Ironically, I have an AMD 3600 CPU, new, unopened. Got it in anticipation of getting a 5500 or 5600 GPU!
@@Adamant_IT well I got the cooler master Hyper 212 black edition. About $ US 40 + tax. Thanks
Lovely build. Seems a tad overkill for what they wanted though. I mean, if all they wanted was a powerful desktop, not a full gaming rig, they could've just gotten some piece of crap from Curries. At least this would be serviceable for a while though, unlike the shelfers.
With two intake and two exhaust fans, having the psu drawing air from the case that would turn the case slightly negative for air pressure?
Very nice looking professional productivity build! One question though.. why did you cut the cooler rgb connector off instead of just hiding it under the edge of the cooler? (Just in case the customer at some point decided they did want to use the rgb some day)
It's soldered to the board, so one way or the other there was going to be a bare wire there. Not like it's an expensive cooler though, just swap out for another one.
That's my case, it's ok but shows the age. I like the looks, not in to the "Gamer" styles. The front air filter blocks a lot of air flow which can be a pain but every time I vacuum it the dust comes out so works.
If I was to buy today id look at the new torrent one or any case with big fans for that airflow.
I had PSU up until I got a RTX 3060 TI, after that the PSU shut down thanks to extra heat :P. The PSU was drinking all the hot air from the GPU and hitting the over temp protection.
i use to just put a blob of thermal paste on cpu but now use the x method because of you, also, with this rig, could you do 2 monitors??
Yea it can drive the HDMI and display port at the same time. Additionally, a lot of DisplayPort monitors have daisy-chain, so you can string two or three monitors into one port.
If you had removed the panel for the third front fan. You would of been able to get the usb header in
I am gaming on GTX965M... hehe, even worse of 950 desktop version, but I can still play stuff.
good video
I got a 5700G and a gigabyte 550 board and am building system without a graphics card (because of prices right now). Should I try to try the q flash bios before I assemble, or just build it, and try to boot. Will I even be able to boot to bios if the cpu is that new??
Should be able to boot - however I've seen some people have issues booting first time without a GPU fitted, so I'd try to have _something_ on hand to POST it. If it can't boot without a GPU, stick in a card and set the BIOS to "iGPU First".
2:15 i didn't realize there where 2 cams
Increase GPU clock
speed to make it so much better.
5600g, better than a kick in the balls.
Will this run dual monitors at 4K without a discrete graphics card?
You could have just turned off the RGB in BIOS :) Also, the stock cooler is good for the CPU (65w).
I hate the usb 3 header im very excited for it to go away and usb c header takes over and you can just use a usb c on the go(OTG) adapter
nice one
Ryzen with Corsair Vengeance LPX... just why.
Gramham why dont you get a big tube of thermal paste??
Thermal paste can "go off", so I prefer to have smaller tubes that get used up quicker. I stock them anyway, and they're not expensive, so it's easier to use the small ones and not worry about wasting half a tube that's gone watery and separated.
@@Adamant_IT can’t you just mix them back together graham
It's never the same after that I find. There's no useful cost saving with big tubes unless you're doing several CPUs a day, and I tend to average maybe 1 a day.
if you add your own paste do you remove the factory paste on the new heat sink or leave it on?
Remove it. You can just wipe it off with some kitchen roll or loo roll. Isopropyl Alcohol (or the less pure "rubbing alcohol") makes it easier if you have some laying around.
You want to try the new fractal torrent case that has massive air flow with 5 fans included 3 x 140 2 x 180
He ordered one in his livestream yesterday
de argb ing of the amd prism did i miss that? how u do that?
model of the board?
Cases with PSU shrouds have made modular PSUs redundant.
could've just popped the mesh front off, no need to rip the whole front off to access the fan-mountings.
45:14 My gtx 660 is now mad at you
Did you set vram to 2gb? It only says 450 on screen.
I left in on defaults, assumed it would auto-allocate. Do you need to manually bump it up then? Have to admit I didn't think of it at all!
@@Adamant_IT Yes default is 500 megs I think.
Umm. Surprised client didn't need back up storage in second slot 🤔
Unfortunately, it's based on the RX Flop series/Flop VII architecture, it can't beat the Titan V/RTX at all.
5600g or 3700x? i can't decide, i want the most recent cpu for future proofing BUT the 2 extra cores make the 3700x tempting. btw they are the exact same price.
I'd go 5600x tbh, it'll outpace a 3700x due to the better IPC, it's newer, and only a hair more expensive.
@@Adamant_IT thanks ill go with your recommendation, I have just flashed my bios from f50 to f61 ready for its arrival. Cheers.
Should have gone for a Noctua air cooled cpu cooler
I'm curious on why you used a 600W PSU for that build? Was it a discount or something because a built like this would surely have been fine with a 350W PSU, no?
Yea I originally picked it up on sale. I'd still have put in a decently sized PSU anyway though, just so a GPU can go in at a later date if desired.
"Who the hell is buying brand new power supplies for 20-pin ATX boards" - those who like vintage computers, and like them to run reliably with modern PSUs.
Bought a new power supply for a 2013 HP that I thought needed one it used a 20 pin turns out it was a dead board (not surprising as its an HP and not an actually good computer).
i got mxp in my bios but it wont enable i have asus tuf b365m-plus and 32 gigs of ripjaw 5 @2666 why cant i use mxp? anyone have an answer? oh also a i5 9400f cpu.
Intel are being dicks about RAM speed, you didn't pay them enough money so you're stuck with 2666.
For higher RAM speed on 9th gen you need a Z390 board to enable XMP. To be honest RAM speed doesn't matter too much on 9th gen anyway.
If you think the 5600G is bad, try running any of that on an Intel i5-10400 with iGPU.
ware do you get your windows from i saw you had wall versions of windows 10 .
That's a standard Windows flash drive made with the Microsoft Media Creation Tool, free download from MS.
@@Adamant_IT How did you get all versions of windows 10 on there is basicaly what im curious about
Media Creation Tool does this on the default settings.
@@Adamant_IT I knew it would by default install the windows that you have but i like how you have all versions on one flash drive . I have learned a lot watching your channel on youtube about computer repair .
i PERFER A FAN HUB IN THE BACK
Actually I'm not sure if it's 3 x 140 or 3 x 120 sry
He has never heard of RTFM? Not every case, motherboard, etc. are the same in every instance.
What sort of cost would this rig be?
Too much for office pc. His client has no any understanding about pc or very rich and doesnt care about money. You can build two pcs for this price.
Do you often get confused for Jack Dorsey ?
your work bench needs sound dampening, it vibrates in the low end ! ;-)
Yea, I picked up a new mic stand this week so the mic is no longer clamped to the desk 👌