@Joe Schmoe Indeed, it's faster than the 6HC. But.. Still no separate X/Y input shaper :( Of course there's marlin as well. 480mhz is completely wasted on klipper :D
Wow that's a massive jump!! But as im using klipper I can't see how this would improve things at all unfortunately, but for Marlin and RRP this can have massive impacts with expansion boards and input shaper etc.
Great video, as usually. If were're talking about the Trinamic 5160 => spec: Voltage Range 8-60V DC without radiator. All your test are great exept this one: please consider do thermal bench only with a load: a stepper with a load or a power resistor.
wow.... BTT has come very far. i love the pinout guide on the box, that is massive. those new driver chips are sexy. I really like how BTT is starting to package and design their controller boards like PC motherboards. it really gets rid of the "janky diy printer build" feel of the older boards still miss the rubber ducky tho, big sad
Can’t this be used with the BTT EXP-MOT board to add 3 more stepper motor drivers (sorry I’m advance, I’m just getting into the hobby) Quality content and awesome video btw
Are those 5160s as capable as the original 5160 Pros that could be pushed to 50-55v? I'm also interested in the CANBus pins? Do they also supply 24v power or do I have to splice those in by myself? It'd be awesome if they did!
No info on availability but I guess it should be very soon. And yes, each driver can be set to either board voltage (ie 24V) or motor voltage (ie 48v).
I got ine question. As my old creality board stopped working tday(running on klipper) and i was used to set the vref directly in the drivers how is this done here? Directly in klipper via the current in the printer. Cfg file? Kr and thx very much!!
I have a question, my board wouldn’t flash firmware, I checked and the power light was off, all connections checked, I then used jumper to try usb power and the power light came on and flashed firmware, I checked psu voltage with my multimeter and it was fine but I have ordered a new psu just incase, other than that I’m at a loss.
Hello, I am thinking of buying this board for my two trees sapphire plus printer. I also want the Pad 7 from them since it is around 120€ with pre-order. The Can-Bus on this board is only for connecting a second similar board or I can connect the EBB board directly to the SKR3 EZ ? THank you
yup! looks sharp! no ghost in the machine! ah! did I hear correctly? U'r gona try hooking 2 boards together! that would be nice.. I'll like 2 see that!
The 2 boards are connected to the pi computer using the "multi-mcu" function in klipper. I use it on my printer with a duet2 and an skr mini. It was much cheaper than buying one of those stepper extension boards.
weird how 3d printers and fpv drones use the same style chips. "f4" "f7" "h7" and so on. Im like you, how does that equate to processing speed, and what are the benefits?
I think the resistor is to be used with an LED for the print bed, if the connection to the bed has an LED. I don't have such a setup, but I'd guess the LED will be on when the bed voltage is on (when heating).
Would be nice if they start using USB Type C connector. I don't want to keep any big Type B cable anymore to be honest, it's very annoying with those cables
Standard USB type B is big, that's true. But it also unbeatable (especially by type C) when comes the reliability. In my case, even miniUSB (which should be the least lasting by design) lasts always longer than any USB type C cable (which by design should lasts more insertings, but in real life, it is quite opposite).
Doesn't know what the resistors are for.... Adjustable external thermistor pullup, for those of us who don't want to try and solder 0402 or smaller resistors on a packed board. Maybe I want to send in direct analog voltage from a width detector and don't need a pullup or E1... Only board I've seen lately that allows this.
hopefully 'this one' isn't full of design and quality control issues.. like most all of btt's previous efforts. New driver format is purely a Proprietary dodge
No ducky? That package is a disappointment :D
Oh wow!!! Did not realize that until you mentioned it!! Let me redo that unboxing video! Lol!!!
@@MirageC 🤣
@@247printing 🤣🤣My god! The duck!
@@bigtreetech5117 I just got one of these awesome boards but no duck also 😰
Dang it's the end of an era. There's a whole family of BTT duckies hot glued to the top of my monitor 😂
The Octopus Pro has a frequency of 168 (STM32F429) or 180 mhz (STM32F446). The STM32H7 on the SKR 3 is 480 mhz. Quite a different beast :)
Oh WOW! Thank you for correcting me Mikkel! This is indeed a beast! I wonder how much of this we will be using. Or what new door is this opening.
@Joe Schmoe Indeed, it's faster than the 6HC. But.. Still no separate X/Y input shaper :(
Of course there's marlin as well.
480mhz is completely wasted on klipper :D
Wow that's a massive jump!! But as im using klipper I can't see how this would improve things at all unfortunately, but for Marlin and RRP this can have massive impacts with expansion boards and input shaper etc.
Not only the frequency difference is massive, but the core itself is far more powerful on it's own.
That chip is an absolute beast.
If these EZ drivers become the norm, the amount of components and features these boards will have will be insane for the size 👌🏻
Looking forward to trying one of these out
I think the idea of the 5 channels is to use CAN on the toolhead. So you would have X/Y/Z1/Z2/Z3 on the board and E1 on the CAN bus toolboard.
Great video, as usually. If were're talking about the Trinamic 5160 => spec: Voltage Range 8-60V DC without radiator. All your test are great exept this one: please consider do thermal bench only with a load: a stepper with a load or a power resistor.
wow.... BTT has come very far. i love the pinout guide on the box, that is massive.
those new driver chips are sexy. I really like how BTT is starting to package and design their controller boards like PC motherboards. it really gets rid of the "janky diy printer build" feel of the older boards
still miss the rubber ducky tho, big sad
wow they really have grown as a company
They sell an expansion board with 3 extra drivers you can use
the resistor is to be used as a 120ohm termination resistor in the CAN network if you use it
I believe the resistor would be used for wiring some types of thermistors
It is for autosave position.
Resistor is for auto save feature, on power loss it can supply enough juice to write to memory. Put across power input.
Thank you!
@@MirageC My pleasure :)
How it helps to add enough juice? It is not capacitor. Something unlogical. Do they show that at manual?
This is incorrect. A resistor is not going to "supply juice". Instead it will take away or dissipate juice. It is not a capacitor.
Can’t this be used with the BTT EXP-MOT board to add 3 more stepper motor drivers (sorry I’m advance, I’m just getting into the hobby)
Quality content and awesome video btw
Woah it has a servo output? Is that new or does the octo also have that?
Are those 5160s as capable as the original 5160 Pros that could be pushed to 50-55v? I'm also interested in the CANBus pins? Do they also supply 24v power or do I have to splice those in by myself? It'd be awesome if they did!
Looks lovely, any info when it gona be avaible? It is able to select motor voltage for each driver?
No info on availability but I guess it should be very soon. And yes, each driver can be set to either board voltage (ie 24V) or motor voltage (ie 48v).
Hello, it will be available at 8AM, May 19 (EST）on biqu.equipement, AliExpress and eBay. Yes, Jumper selectable driver voltage (MOT/VIN 48V MAX)
@Joe Schmoe yes it has selectable voltages for the fans but im not sure how since there are no jumpers for that
I got ine question. As my old creality board stopped working tday(running on klipper) and i was used to set the vref directly in the drivers how is this done here?
Directly in klipper via the current in the printer. Cfg file?
Kr and thx very much!!
Have you done the dual SKR 3 EZ’s yet?
I have a question, my board wouldn’t flash firmware, I checked and the power light was off, all connections checked, I then used jumper to try usb power and the power light came on and flashed firmware, I checked psu voltage with my multimeter and it was fine but I have ordered a new psu just incase, other than that I’m at a loss.
Hello, I am thinking of buying this board for my two trees sapphire plus printer. I also want the Pad 7 from them since it is around 120€ with pre-order. The Can-Bus on this board is only for connecting a second similar board or I can connect the EBB board directly to the SKR3 EZ ? THank you
That resistor is probably 2.7k resistor for PT1000 Thermistor to balance its output ohm to give more stable output
Upvoted, then watched.
I would bet the resistor is for inductive problems. Sometimes you need to put one in.
yup! looks sharp! no ghost in the machine! ah! did I hear correctly? U'r gona try hooking 2 boards together! that would be nice..
I'll like 2 see that!
The 2 boards are connected to the pi computer using the "multi-mcu" function in klipper. I use it on my printer with a duet2 and an skr mini. It was much cheaper than buying one of those stepper extension boards.
Do the drivers come with the board or are they separate?
weird how 3d printers and fpv drones use the same style chips. "f4" "f7" "h7" and so on. Im like you, how does that equate to processing speed, and what are the benefits?
Nice if the printers move to 48v
Does the wifi module require any extras or is it fully functional by default?
You will have to buy one of these module: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_A1fzwX
is 48v - a viable work voltage for this configuration?
You will need to feed 24V to the board and 48V for the motors dedicated voltage input.
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I think the resistor is to be used with an LED for the print bed, if the connection to the bed has an LED. I don't have such a setup, but I'd guess the LED will be on when the bed voltage is on (when heating).
What thermal cam do you have?
It is a FLIR One : amzn.to/38qo7oI
Interesting
Does this board has a CAN-Transceiver?
Yes, it is equipped with an MCP2542 CAN Tranceiver.
5 drivers? Multi-mcu to the rescue!
Would be nice if they start using USB Type C connector. I don't want to keep any big Type B cable anymore to be honest, it's very annoying with those cables
Standard USB type B is big, that's true. But it also unbeatable (especially by type C) when comes the reliability.
In my case, even miniUSB (which should be the least lasting by design) lasts always longer than any USB type C cable (which by design should lasts more insertings, but in real life, it is quite opposite).
My octopus is USB type c
Does this work with Servo42c?
Yes, you simply have to use the old driver connector type from this board to seat your servo42c driver/connector adapter.
Doesn't know what the resistors are for....
Adjustable external thermistor pullup, for those of us who don't want to try and solder 0402 or smaller resistors on a packed board. Maybe I want to send in direct analog voltage from a width detector and don't need a pullup or E1...
Only board I've seen lately that allows this.
Pullup 4.7?
I am a big kid now! Lol... it's to select the resistance value of the thermistor circuit. 2.2k or 4.7.
@@MirageC Jumper selectable 4k7/2k2 pull up for PT1000 sensors😂
Hello, Jumper selectable 4k7/2k2 pull up for PT1000 sensors
Hi, would you tell me which is better with Mellow Fly Gemini v2.0 board? thanks
I could not say, I dont have experience with the Fly Gemini V2.0.
@@MirageC ok, if you can then make compare video with them
hopefully 'this one' isn't full of design and quality control issues.. like most all of btt's previous efforts.
New driver format is purely a Proprietary dodge
No more ducks 😭😭😭
Not really a gold mine , Sensorless homming not working , technical support 00000, warranty 00000. waist of time and money !!!!