Should You Stop Tithing While in Debt?
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I actually was not able to get out of debt until I started tithing
Wow this! God is good!
God didnt ask for a money tithe but apparently he did bless your givimg so quit feeling you owe a money tithe
I'm still on any step 2, but I will always tithe, God, provides for me always. I have to do everything regarding what God says to do, not any human say.
Yes amen! It all belong to Him and he lets me keep the 90%!❤️
@@cherisecervantes3766 So true, and He blesses what you keep.
The most valuable currency is time. We are underpaid for it. If we were paid what it’s worth then the gap between the rich in poor wouldn’t be so great. Spending 2.4 hours in church a week is a tenth of your time.
Quit tithing and just give frerly because you dont owe a money tithe
As soon as I started to prioritize the tithe and be consisted about it, all of suddenly my husband started getting calls for overtime, I got an extra 8 work hours added to my week, Money was stretching more and more, we are more than half way done with baby step 2 and it feels awesome. God truly protects whats left in my hands after giving.
I did not say that you will suffer if you do not tithe. This is my experience based on my convictions. You and the any one else is perfectly free to believe and do as they please. Respectfully.
Thank you for sharing !
I want to tithe but haven't found a local church I go to.. What do I do I don't want to be cursed anymore but want God blessing by tithing
@@peterc504 you can find a local charity “christian faith based” and give there, maybe. Also I don’t believe you are cursed for not giving especially if you truly desire to do it. You cal always pray about and ask God to lead where you can give. Blessings
@@peterc504not tithing on wages will not get you cursed ,do you think God would demand your money for his free gift of salvation
“Giving is not a debt I owe, it’s a seed I sow” when we give to God it comes back EXPONENTIALLY!!!! It’s nothing that makes sense in the natural but it’s all supernatural ❤️
If you got more blessings than you can handle, maybe you do quit paying tithing. If you're trying to get out of debt and you quit paying tithing, you're telling the best partner you could ever ask for that you don't need his help anymore. Faith works when you and your heavenly partner work on the project together.
Facts
You think so guys? I'm not in a local church so what do I do? I never tithed to see a blessing. It seems like the easiest way to see a miracle or blessing right?
Tithing is not the only commandment with a blessing attached, but there are very few commandments given where our Creator tells us "prove me now herewith" as he does in Malachi. Sometimes miracles and blessings are indistinguishable, but when the windows of heaven are opened in your life, both miracles and blessings flow.
Good message. Ever since I factored a set amount per month to give, it really is an amazing experience. I so enjoy deciding each month where I am going to give!
Struggled a lot with this, but I believe it's best to tithe and let God do the rest.
The most valuable currency is time. We are underpaid for it. If we were paid what it’s worth then the gap between the rich in poor wouldn’t be so great. Spending 2.4 hours in church a week is a tenth of your time.
You think so?
God would be doing the rest because He never commanded a money income tithe
Rachel, Once again you are on point.
Love your videos Rachel! So practical and gives me so much motivation to keep going!
So glad you are answering this question - one I have wanted to know! And yes - giving as a habit now - where I am today, that's what I thought but needed to hear you say it
Great question !!
I was injured with nothing to do… I was mostly immobile and Billy Graham was on TV. He said, “If you don’t tithe, you’re robbing God. I began tithing. Months later Jesus came to me. I was tithing at least 4-5 months before I was saved. That was November 4th 1972. He has been faithful to me for more than half a century.
Great Video ! Subscribed, thanks for sharing
Suggestion, you can use time rather then money might be a way. Working 40 hours a week, giving 4 hours a week intentionally can also provide what you need.
Thanks
Is giving good? Yes. For your mental health. Look at these comments how people say they gave their money and then received blessings from God. If you give because you want to be a good person, you should continue to give, regardless of religion. If you give hoping to gain good karma or blessings or because someone told you its what you should do then don't waste your time!
Omg this is perfect, same question I had last week.
Time, talent, and treasure. If you are not financially able to give money (treasure), you can give through your time and/or talents.
This is so underrated. Anyone can write a check. Time and giving of yourself is so much more valuable than any monetary donations. That old person who you talk to, who is by themselves, would rather have your company than a monetary donation.
@@hobgoblin4614very true.
No. You are misinformed on what tithing is depending on your income/wealth.
In OT for example if you had to tithe on your animals you gave 1 out of 10 goats. But what if you had less than 10 new goats in the season, such as 8? You don't give 0.8 goats. You arent required to tithe.
I suggest listening to a 2 part podcast on Restitutio website/channel that was recently posted on tithing by a guy who was deep into a church that required tithing. He explains it really well.
I'm not against giving--but tithing is obsolete for what its purpose actually was for.
Not rich? That’s ok you can help make your rich church richer!
Amen!! And it is amazing to see the Lord continue to provide and bless you when you trust Him with ALL things... trusting God through tithing is a huge step in yielding our control back to Him!
It seems to come back tenfold .....I wish people could understand this x
How no way huh
I was waiting for someone from Ramsey to comment on this.
I also wanted a professing christian to address this. Not a mega cburch psstor who has bills.
If you can’t donate money, donate your time.
That's more valuate than $ in many cases!
I am on baby step 2. And trying to decide on tithing. If we take 10% out at the beginning, we would be negative at the end of the month. There are a few small items we could cut out but the majority are our 4 walls, and debts that must be paid. Yes I realize some of our past debts are “wants” but I can’t change that now. I can only change going forward.
I work for a Christian preschool and make very little money. I work a lot extra that I am not paid for. My husband also helps and works at our church each week. I help with I can with any of the events the church has.
What is an acceptable amount to tithe if we can’t afford 10%? Or does that not matter? Our most recent sermon suggests a 90 challenge or just doing it and trusting that God will provide. It’s not that I don’t trust God but I need to be able to pay the bills.
If someone told you to stop paying your taxes and filing your tax return would you do it?
Giving is not Tithing. For a long time i did not get this till it was explained like this “ I borrowed your car and I don’t return it. And on your birthday I ‘give’ it to you as a gift-it’s not a gift because it already belongs you so no kudos for me. That is the tithe-God gave you health and a working mind to be able to make $ 10¢ of every $1 belongs to Him and anything above that is actually giving because the 90 is yours 😇
In 2 Corinthians 8:11-13, it states to give what you have and not what you don't have. In 2 Corinthians 9:7, it states “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion for God loves a cheerful giver”. The keyword is "compulsion". God does not curse people and loves the non-giver just as much as he loves the giver. IMO, you should give what you can afford that way you don't feel compelled to give. Giving to the church is not the only way to give to God. Your time is money.
@@GUYIN96706 definitely don’t “give” grudgingly or under compulsion, it’s the heart posture that God sees. But tithing is not the same as “giving” if that makes sense. The Tithe is what already belongs to God, we can’t “give” Him what already is His. The “giving” that the church in Corinth prepared was not Lords Tithe but a gift to the ministry fund and those that were being helped. Anything above the 10% is overflow aka giving because 90% is what you you own and therefore can give from the 90%
“Give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is Gods” The Tithe is the Lords
It’s a trust issue with most Christians that are bothered by the Tithe. They spend more on groceries and entertainment than the Tithe and tip their servers more and don’t bat an eye.
Once Holy Spirit brings you to the revelation of the 90% and the 10% you realize you will have 110% in your account and don’t know where it came from. 💯
Firstly understand that there is no biblical tithe. Therefore you give what ever you feel comfortable giving and a figure that you can be cheerful while doing so. Everything you mentioned is how things operate in the natural, but with God, it is all supernatural. This bear that in mind when giving.
@GUYIN96706 When people hear tithe we instantly think of money because the church says money. They don't explain that tithe can also be in different forms....
Tithing is #1. I send mine out via text message as soon as it hits my bank account so I won't think about what I could use it for. God will bless us no matter what.
How he bless ya
Giving 10% while on bb step 2? Or give something? Like 3% or whichever u choose
Absolutely! We need to always Tithe! We cannot rob God!
How are you robbing God if you don't tithe? What need does God have for money?
@@PaulSullivan828 God's Church. Your local Church. God provides for you in your life. You keep 90% And Give 10%. Tithe Means Tenth.
I agree 💯. While getting off debt, still do your tithing. The Lord will open doors to get out off debt fast and your wealth will grow as well. I'm a living proof of it. 🙏 don't block your blessing.
There are many tithes though. Even paying taxes. It's not right in my opinion to "tithe" when you owe someone else money. Giving to the church should always be an offering. Jesus said always give cheerfully and an amount you've set aside each week.
@@CDTucker336 Tithing means you’re being obedient to God, so you should give without expecting anything in return. Giving encourages a grateful and generous spirit and can help steer us away from being greedy or loving money too much.
There's no such thing as a biblical compulsory tithe from earned wages. Save, pay off debt and give as you are able. Systematic, biblical tithes aren't and weren't gifts. They were compulsory submissions of consumable items specifically purposed for the Levitical theocracy, the poor (every 3 years) and for the festival(s). We're free to give, not bound to pay.
The book of 2nd Corinthians 8:1-3 has the answer. Give according to your means and if possible beyond your means. God knows your heart, trust him. This is why we are asked to repent of our sins that we commit knowingly or unknowingly every day in case we fall short of his glory. :)
No Joel Osteen needs his money. Pay the man!
True that. Per Wikipedia, "Osteen's net worth was variably reported to be $40 million and $60 million in 2017.[29][30] He lives with his family in a 17,000 square-foot mansion in River Oaks, with an estimated value of $10.5 million.[31] Osteen says that as senior pastor, he draws no salary from the church, which has an annual budget of $70 million,[32] and that he instead relies on income from book sales.[33]"
😂 smh
Malachi 3:10
Malachi is the next book I am about to start! Oh how God works always amazes me. First I come across this video, and it’s subject has been weighing on my mind, then I read your comment, and look it up right away. Thank you for sharing!
I cannot give my tithes to the Lord because I cannot give what is not mine. I bring tithes because it belongs to God.
Tithes were never income or money
I believe debt is sin?
And you’re right , it is .
People still live by Minneapolis? Thought it was burnt to a cinder. Lol
Tithing actually is about bringing back. We are not giving to God- it already is God’s money we are bringing it back.
Tithe was never about money
I feel like every time the tithe has been a sacrifice it comes back in ways you can’t explain (God).
You think god would have been like "I was gonna do something good for Shandi, but she didn't give my church money, so now I'm not going to"? Or what is the logic here?
@@killingyou321 it isn’t a logic problem at that point it is a faith issue in my personal opinion. I have faith that 10% is so little in comparison to what I have received. I don’t always give my tithe to the church (also a personal preference).
@@shandilayne but your reply is one of logical causal effects. Your statement is that the 10% you give, is less (logical statement) than what you receive because of it (wouldn't have happened without). Do you think god would not have blessed you, had you not given a tenth of your income? And as such, it would be a payment for possible services, and if you're not tithing then god won't bless you in the same way. It just seems a little strange when you examine the logic behind it, but to be honest, religious people are not those who i expect to exacerbate the most logical thinking
@@killingyou321in curious of this as well.. I've never tithed but I've heard of people that have and things have happened that are obviously God. Like one guy tithed and didn't have enough for bills and somehow someone else paid his bills.. Lol this would honestly scare me haha. I feel if I tithed nothing would happen and I'd have to feel it was a lie.. Maybe one day
Does giving to friends and family count? i feel like im gifting is there a difference?
Sort of. Although tithe is to the chruch if God puts in on your heart to give that money to someone in need than that's okay. 🙂😊
@@girltalkwithtia2425 can you show me where it says to tithe to the church anywhere in Bible?
@@droptozro It's in Malachi 3:10, niv: "Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,' says the LORD Almighty, 'and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that there will not be room enough to store it. The storehouse is referring to the church
@@girltalkwithtia2425 that's a command to the religious leadership and its food to be given to Levites and poor since they had no land and leadership was running the government system and sacrifices of God's Torah. Normally that tithe happened once or twice a year depending on the harvest and it's actually not exactly 10%. If you had 18 new goats born--you count 1 out of each 10 goats to give for example. Well, you only got 18.. So 1.8 goats? Not really. So 1 goat was given. The storehouse is not the church either... That's not even the same word as the assembly. Are you also under the Torah? Just curious because most Christians reject the Torah except for a handful of laws.
I dont believe that text in Malachi has anything to do with a modern 10% giving of income to your local church unless you import your definition of "tithe" into that text. Could you try reading the Torah commands about tithing?
@@droptozro That's quite interesting. I haven't read the Torah. I thought the Torah was only for Jewish people. I'll defend look into it.
The 10% is a random number that the church came up with, no?
Even before the church, the law of Moses tithingg was a part of sacrifice
Bible says 10 percent and the 3rd years you supposed to keep it for windows and orphans in your family.
Some day, most likely a youtuber will answer the question of gross, or net.
I've heard it has to be gross. Bc you have to give your first. If you give net then you've not given your first to God but to your bills government or wherever.. I've heard it's a test of faith bc you gave your first now you need to rely on God to provide enough with what you have left
Neither one is owed there is no money income tithe
If you put the Lord for everything else will work out
Just pay! Then the next time something positive happens, you can rationalize a narrative to fit your beliefs, that it happened only because you gave your money to a religion.
If someone told you to stop paying your taxes and filing your tax return till you paid off your debt would you do it? Is that legal in the natural? Give to Cesar what is Cesar’s and give to God what is Gods.
Giving is not Tithing and Tithing is not the same as giving. For a long time I did not understand this and the Church often is afraid to teach on the Tithe till it was explained like this “ I borrowed your car and I don’t return it. And on your birthday I ‘give’ it to you as a gift-it’s not a gift because it already belongs you so no kudos for me.
That is the tithe-God blessed you with health and a working mind and job to be able to earn income ➡️10¢ of every $1 belongs to Him and anything above that is actually giving because the 90 is yours 😇
But God isnt wanti ng your mammon
Tithing is not giving to God, you are giving to a church ran by men. Most of which are men taking advantage of others. A community church is fine, but not to a commercial church, they make tons of cash exploiting people's spirituality.
What kind of God needs cash anyway?
It's for the Church to have and keep the church open.
This is not even a question, NO!
10% (Net not Gross I hope) 😳 eek 😬
Think who are you giving it to?? What are they doing with that money? Could you have done something better with it to help people somehow?
Gold & Silver = God’s Money 🪙 Save in precious metals.
In Islam, you give 2.5% out what’s left after you pay your bills and all debts.
tithing is not biblical. Don’t confuse temple worship with church . There are no levites in the five fold ministry. They pull Abraham who have a tenth of spoils of war and Jesus who spoke to law teachers before the church was birthed in Acts . Giving is not a law it is a love responsibility
Tithing is under the old covenant. You can tithe if you want but it’s not required. Jesus fulfilled the law.
Tithing: big money waste for you & the government. Regardless of ANY baby step!!!
Giving away 10 percent of your income is among the most stupidest things in the world a person can do. That is money you're never going to see again. Bad advice.
You don't know what the Bible says about tithing!!
Don't ever tithe. Waste of money lining a pastor's pockets tax free. At least don't do it if your pastor is living more richly than you. God isn't a slot machine. And you aren't your pastor's sugar daddy.
If you think your pastor is squandering your tithed money - you need to find a different church. Find one where your money is being used for good and a pastor who is striving to live in a manner that you can support.
@@arthrodea Can't argue with that. How transparent are churches though?
If the pastor squanders your tithe it shouldn't prevent God blessing.. You did your part by tithing so if God doesn't bless you then his word is a lie
@@peterc504 People who tithe get cancer and die. Explain.
@@peterc504 Can't explain that one can you.
No point of having money if you can't give, your giving should increase as your finances do :).
You’re the best Rachel!
That’s how you build your faith... and besides it’s Gods money anyways. You pay 10% and you get the rest.
Then why did he give it to me in the first place? God needs money?
The most valuable currency is time. We are underpaid for it. If we were paid what it’s worth then the gap between the rich in poor wouldn’t be so great. Spending 2.4 hours in church a week is a tenth of your time.
@@Turbo.M777 Exactly. I would rather volunteer my time. It’s what employers pay us for even though we are under paid for it. Meanwhile people who understand how important time is charge a huge amount per hour. Lawyers charging thousands per hour without blinking an eye understand that you don’t get time back and time is needed in order for us to better ourselves. The longer we are spending our time working a job, the less time we have to grow with hopes of finding something better. It’s called the rat race for a reason.
Actually God doesnt care a thing about your worthless mammon
That issimply y not true