ze is gewoon de beste EVER!!!! i love der soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo als bonfire nu nog zou rondlopen in de wedstrijden had ie gelijk gescoord met totilas!
Goosebumps, really! This is amazing!! For me, this is the best performance ever! Even with Edward Gal and Totilas on the top now. Bonfire is the best!!
Thank you for everything Bonnie I will miss you. Goodbye and rest in peace. Lieve Bonfire, ik keek en kijk altijd graag naar de proeven die jij en Anky hebben gereden. Zoiets moois! Ik hoop dat je in vrede over de eeuwige jachtvelden mag galopperen
i have been a dressage rider for 20 years now, trained young horses, worked with stallions and grand prix horses. I can tell you now that no horse will perform for you if he or she is being mistreated, not at this level. impossible!! i have been to several competitions in wich i saw anky perform with bonfire or other horses and they simply want to work with her. bonfire never missed a beat because anky spent hours searching for the right tunes for her horse's movements .
i agree minga90ame. This music is original and even it, is great for a kur. All the kurs from bonfire and salinero are just amazing. And her new one has got to be the best! cant wait to listen to it! :) I dont like the tango but i guess it was made to suit krack and partout . what do you think about the tango?
Wow. I'm not very interested in doing dressage myself, but Anky makes it look absolutely beautiful. If I did dressage, she'd be the reason!! You know somebody is a great rider when it looks like their horse is doing all the work. xD Anky is wonderdul. Won. Dur. Full. xD
Balto you REALLY need to get over your dislike of her. Its unneccessary to put her down as this is for people who LIKE and ENJOY watching her. As I've already stated to you my horse was trained Rolkur and was NEVER FOR ONE SECOND in pain. He was checked over by vets and my trainer sells horses to Olympic teams so I do know what I'm talking about. NO rider is stupid enough to LET their horse be in pain. So it would be appreciated if you stopped criticising a WORLD CLASS ATHLETE, which you arent.
stephntilly - I have made a novice freestyle to the canter music and it looks awesome even with a novice horse. The song is called "fading like a flower" by Roxette.
what I said was a reply to "dressage1xx", not quite sure how the confusion came in that it was for you haha. i had actually agreed with your comment and gave it a thumbs up :)
im 14 anky has also been my idol since i was 9. maybe one day we shall compete against eachother in the grand pre special or the cur at the olympics. good luck with your training hun :) xx
You got that right! I never though that i would say this but this horse is way better than salinero and the kurr is better. That would defenitly have to be the best kurr i have watched!
The walk is a marching pace in a regular four time beat. and When the fore leg and the hind leg on the same side move almost on the same beat, the walk tends to become an almost lateral movement. This irregularity, which might become an ambling movement, is a serious deterioration of the pace. FEI standard. "crossing either the fore or hind legs, or swinging either the forehand or the hindquarters from one side to the other..
Im not taking it personally :) Thats fine that its your opinion. From my point of view i think it the independent lower leg allows everything to move freely.
can someone please tell me what the music is called that she does the canter work to i know the walk music is black beauty theme (very very good choice it really goes with the horse)but the canter music is amazing
how is that giving an 'expert opinion'? i was commenting on her position. i also have had problems with my lower leg staying still, but riding stirrupless has been helping a ton.
ja vast nathalieke moeten wij geloven xD maarja zal wel xD I(l) Anky!!! anky is gwn de beste van de beste der beste xD &&ik ga 1x perjaar naar Anky Fanclub dag en heb laatst een hele mooie foto van mij met Bonfire gemaakt echt zow leuk!
@baltocribs Actually, Hyperflexion IS an illegal training method within the FEI, I believe it is punishable with suspension, similar to doping offences, but that's just off the top of my head. Anyway, it's a shame that it seems impossible to get high quality videos of Dressage at the Sydney Olympics.
Question: baltocribs, you say that you believe that if the horse shown in the video does not respond to the leg aids, you say he suffers. Please define suffering, i agree with you but cannot understand how he suffers. Thank you
Does her lower leg ever stay still? I'd suggest for her and for anyone else to watch people like Courtney King-Dye ride, I've NEVER seen her ride incorrectly. However, when I watch Anky it's sadly all I can think about.
K good I just wanted to check to make sure, I'm not here to offend! :) I agree a leg should be independent, but at the same time it should be strong and supportive. However this string of comments has gone on for a long time and I apologize, hondadiva, for all the notifications because of me!
they are! have you noticed how the horses foam at the mouth? do you know why they foam at the mouth? no not because they have rabies. its because they are having a good time and are happy! isnt that great!?
I've got a funny example for you of bias judging ouside of the top competition rings of europe. A woman over here purchased Prestige VDL, I horse that I always loved and said to mum she should've used even when he was in the Netherlands. She's had him for 18 months now and he's going beautifully but she said no matter what she can't beat our only 2 dressage reps from the olympics, Kallista Feild and Louisa Hill. Even at HOY, where there were guest judges from Europe who marked her ahead of..
I'm all for moving with the horse. But I don't think Anky really cares about a horse being "free", although that is just an opinion gathered from watching rollkur. I realize you are a huge fan of Anky by watching your video, and I'm not trying to change your opinion of her at all, I'm just simply stating my own, so I hope no one's taking it personally.
@akebai horses are not overbred like the dogbreeds you mentioned. they do not have these kind of problems because sportshorses are bred to be healthy, strong and athletic animals, nothing like dogs who are often only bred to have a certain look without any funtionaity besides looking appealing tho whomever likes the look of the animal. horseowners want a healthy, strong animal.
oh no I didn't mean that type of leg movement, of course that's neccessary. I'm talking about a "shaky" leg, just a little loose, that's not asking for anything when it moves.
@merryoxox i agree that horses are generous, but mistreating them will only amount in fighting against the riders force wich will mean you as a rider will need more force to win the horse over. this will show in their performance ,My own horse used to be a dragon when i just bought him... found out he was "broken in " in a rather harsh way and he ( good for him)decided to fight everything. we had to start from scratch. it already cost me half the stable...with him tearing everything down.
Rolkur has had alot of research done on it - horses ridden in a rolkur often have higher heart/stress levels and is a highly unnatural thing for a horse. Additionally in many of ankys clinics that can be viewed on you tube the horse in the rolkur does not track up in walk or trot and it isn't a pretty picture with her hanging onto the curb..... would be interesting to see how she trains them to do a rolkur as id put money on it that she yanks them round.
That's because the people in the regulating body are afraid to "rock the boat", knowing that if they say anything against Anky, Andreas and their supporters they will never work again. The system is corrupt and horses are being destroyed every year because of these weak individuals.
I'm fairly sure this is the same Anky I went to school with - if so she says a couple sentences to you that just destroy you-she was an evil, ruthless nasty person. And that was why she won so much. And if she's not the same one - apologies to you - sincerely
If only you saw her in training. Rolkurr Rolkurr and Lets see? MORE ROLKURR! Her horses are FORCED to do things. Despite how good she looks. She is making her horses suffer
And anyone with any knowledge what so ever should be able to recognize a lateral walk. If you want a reason to do dressage, why dont you look up phillipe karl. Or Reiner Klimke. Their work is something to aspire to.
getting wide behind or in front, moving too much forward or double beat rhythm are serious faults" FEI on Piaffe "swinging the forehand or the hindquarters from one side to the other, as well as jerky movements of the forelegs or the hind legs.." FEI on passage. The head should remain in a steady position, as a rule slightly in front of the vertical, with a supple poll as the highest point of the neck"
How can you even be so ignorant as to try to tell me that that walk is ideal. He is nowhere near tracking up in the collected walk, it is lateral and he is constantly behind the vertical. In the extended gait he is still lateral and barely tracking up at all. There should be a large over track in the extended gait and ideally in the collected he should, at the least, be tracking up. lateralizing of the walk is described by the FEI as a serious fault and degredation of the gait.
i dont know anky but i pent a bit of time a top barn in germany where i watched the technique ued by people who were reagrded a ome of the bet. not a good way to ride, ill put it that way. apology for bad grammer, lap top copped a flood of water from a burt fih tank and now a few button dont work
Dan weet jij niet echgt veel van paarden af... Als je paarden in de wei ziet, doen ze deze oefeningen ook al, en als een paard iets niet leuk vind, zou die echt niet zo door de baan heen gaan hoor, er zit geen stukje spanning en frustratie in Bonfire, en ook in de meeste andere paarden niet. Sommige paarden vinden iets moeilijk, maar dat is net als bij mensen.
how DARE you compare those two! there is a huge difference between the two. Dog fighting is ILLEGAL where as "The FEI called a meeting of trainers, riders and vets in Lausanne in February of 2006 to discuss the issues arising from the allegations made by the press. The meeting concluded that although potentially damaging in inexperienced hands these methods were acceptable in the hands of experts. "Hyper flexing of the neck" was officially condoned by the recognized regulatory body the FEI."
of the both of them, the kiwi judges wouldn't place her ahead of them. I imagine possibly because there is a stigma attached to having competed at the Olympics. It might just be a conspiracy theory but I reckon that bias judging happens a lot, everywhere. Dressage is not a fair competition by ny means because it's all based on a certain panel of judges opinion and no matter how "well educated" these people claim to be, they will always be affected by there own beliefs, likes and dislikes and..
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I was at the Sydney games watching this. It was really special.
One thing I love about Anky's performances are that the horses look to be having so much fun.
Yep i agree, He is my favourite dressage horse in the world and this was by far the best kur ever ridden
awesome! best horse ever in the dressage world
ze is gewoon de beste EVER!!!!
i love der soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
als bonfire nu nog zou rondlopen in de wedstrijden had ie gelijk gescoord met totilas!
very nice horse and good riding!
I LOVE THIS HORSE AND THIS RIDER !!!
Yeeaah bonfire is great!! he's so a fine horse!! :D
When I see movies like this I'm proud to be from HOLLAND =D
Goosebumps, really! This is amazing!! For me, this is the best performance ever! Even with Edward Gal and Totilas on the top now. Bonfire is the best!!
they are AMAZING!
very nice working trot, and the half pasts were awsom O.o !!
Thank you! Since then I have improved so much but Anky is still the best ever!!! And I would love to see you ride!!
Thank you for everything Bonnie
I will miss you.
Goodbye and rest in peace.
Lieve Bonfire, ik keek en kijk altijd graag naar de proeven die jij en Anky hebben gereden. Zoiets moois! Ik hoop dat je in vrede over de eeuwige jachtvelden mag galopperen
Wow Bonfire is a great horse.
Anky van grunsven is my favorite rider of all time!
Bonfire is echt geweldig, zijn overgangen zijn ook echt goed!
maar mijn pony blijft toch altijd liever ^^
thanks heaps!
thank you
jaaaa beautifulll
it is :) i just lov her:)
i have been a dressage rider for 20 years now, trained young horses, worked with stallions and grand prix horses. I can tell you now that no horse will perform for you if he or she is being mistreated, not at this level. impossible!! i have been to several competitions in wich i saw anky perform with bonfire or other horses and they simply want to work with her. bonfire never missed a beat because anky spent hours searching for the right tunes for her horse's movements .
i agree minga90ame. This music is original and even it, is great for a kur. All the kurs from bonfire and salinero are just amazing. And her new one has got to be the best! cant wait to listen to it! :) I dont like the tango but i guess it was made to suit krack and partout . what do you think about the tango?
Anky was on the WC for Icelandic Horses with Salinero! She did a kür and told us what she did and how you do that :P
she is the best
Wow. I'm not very interested in doing dressage myself, but Anky makes it look absolutely beautiful. If I did dressage, she'd be the reason!! You know somebody is a great rider when it looks like their horse is doing all the work. xD Anky is wonderdul. Won. Dur. Full. xD
Goodbye all Australian Dressage riders, Anky is on top now!!!!!
wauw, echt prachtig!
Balto you REALLY need to get over your dislike of her. Its unneccessary to put her down as this is for people who LIKE and ENJOY watching her. As I've already stated to you my horse was trained Rolkur and was NEVER FOR ONE SECOND in pain. He was checked over by vets and my trainer sells horses to Olympic teams so I do know what I'm talking about. NO rider is stupid enough to LET their horse be in pain. So it would be appreciated if you stopped criticising a WORLD CLASS ATHLETE, which you arent.
WOW, chill out............
kocham ją ,jest moja idolką
stephntilly - I have made a novice freestyle to the canter music and it looks awesome even with a novice horse. The song is called "fading like a flower" by Roxette.
Hey
Does any one no what the music in the tempi changes is? i really like it!?
what I said was a reply to "dressage1xx", not quite sure how the confusion came in that it was for you haha. i had actually agreed with your comment and gave it a thumbs up :)
it was his last competitive outing but after the olympics there was a farewell tour in the netherlands 4 bonfire nd he performed this kur
Anky, you're my idol.
You rock
Yes, I know I'm only 9, but I am truly inspired. (Lol even tho I'm only at training level lol)
im 14
anky has also been my idol since i was 9.
maybe one day we shall compete against eachother in the grand pre special or the cur at the olympics.
good luck with your training hun :) xx
You got that right! I never though that i would say this but this horse is way better than salinero and the kurr is better. That would defenitly have to be the best kurr i have watched!
The walk is a marching pace in a regular four time beat. and When the fore leg and the hind leg on the same side move almost on the same beat, the walk tends to become an almost lateral movement. This irregularity, which might become an ambling movement, is a serious deterioration of the pace. FEI standard. "crossing either the fore or hind legs, or swinging either the forehand or the hindquarters from one side to the other..
I just want this music XD
Im not taking it personally :) Thats fine that its your opinion. From my point of view i think it the independent lower leg allows everything to move freely.
To all you haters.....The proof is in her Resume!!!!!
same here :D
R.I.P Bonfire!
She invented Rollkur!
can someone please tell me what the music is called that she does the canter work to i know the walk music is black beauty theme (very very good choice it really goes with the horse)but the canter music is amazing
how is that giving an 'expert opinion'? i was commenting on her position. i also have had problems with my lower leg staying still, but riding stirrupless has been helping a ton.
could everybody who doesn't know what he's talking about please shut up! Can't you see how beautiful this is! especially 3:24
lol id luv 2 do dressage!
Which pixel is the horse?
ja vast nathalieke moeten wij geloven xD
maarja zal wel xD
I(l) Anky!!!
anky is gwn de beste van de beste der beste xD
&&ik ga 1x perjaar naar Anky Fanclub dag en heb laatst een hele mooie foto van mij met Bonfire gemaakt echt zow leuk!
can i use this super vid for my movies?
minga90ame - all the canter work is fading like a flower :)
@baltocribs Actually, Hyperflexion IS an illegal training method within the FEI, I believe it is punishable with suspension, similar to doping offences, but that's just off the top of my head.
Anyway, it's a shame that it seems impossible to get high quality videos of Dressage at the Sydney Olympics.
Question:
baltocribs,
you say that you believe that if the horse shown in the video does not respond to the leg aids, you say he suffers.
Please define suffering, i agree with you but cannot understand how he suffers.
Thank you
minga - I agree :)
how was he and ittybitty off with the passage at the start
i dont see it
all i can say to all those haters that the proof is in the pudding, she still wins, no matter what training methods she uses.
she's the queen of dressage
Does her lower leg ever stay still? I'd suggest for her and for anyone else to watch people like Courtney King-Dye ride, I've NEVER seen her ride incorrectly. However, when I watch Anky it's sadly all I can think about.
cymbol3 very true
RIP Bonfire
R.I.P bonfire.
haha no problem :)
K good I just wanted to check to make sure, I'm not here to offend! :) I agree a leg should be independent, but at the same time it should be strong and supportive. However this string of comments has gone on for a long time and I apologize, hondadiva, for all the notifications because of me!
they are! have you noticed how the horses foam at the mouth? do you know why they foam at the mouth? no not because they have rabies. its because they are having a good time and are happy! isnt that great!?
Hoe heet de muziek vanaf 2.04? Ik zou dat graag willen weten.
Groetjes!
Zeker weten, ze is in 2001 tot Ruiter van de Eeuw benoemt.
haha yep!
I've got a funny example for you of bias judging ouside of the top competition rings of europe. A woman over here purchased Prestige VDL, I horse that I always loved and said to mum she should've used even when he was in the Netherlands. She's had him for 18 months now and he's going beautifully but she said no matter what she can't beat our only 2 dressage reps from the olympics, Kallista Feild and Louisa Hill. Even at HOY, where there were guest judges from Europe who marked her ahead of..
Do you know what is the canter music please ?
But who says a loose lower leg is bad? Its not, it means she allowing her leg to move freely with the movement of the horse.
I'm all for moving with the horse. But I don't think Anky really cares about a horse being "free", although that is just an opinion gathered from watching rollkur. I realize you are a huge fan of Anky by watching your video, and I'm not trying to change your opinion of her at all, I'm just simply stating my own, so I hope no one's taking it personally.
@akebai horses are not overbred like the dogbreeds you mentioned. they do not have these kind of problems because sportshorses are bred to be healthy, strong and athletic animals, nothing like dogs who are often only bred to have a certain look without any funtionaity besides looking appealing tho whomever likes the look of the animal. horseowners want a healthy, strong animal.
why do you have to read the comments, if you're watching the video?
And exactly what are they suffering from??? Exactly, they are not suffering, how are they suffering?
oh no I didn't mean that type of leg movement, of course that's neccessary. I'm talking about a "shaky" leg, just a little loose, that's not asking for anything when it moves.
@merryoxox i agree that horses are generous, but mistreating them will only amount in fighting against the riders force wich will mean you as a rider will need more force to win the horse over. this will show in their performance ,My own horse used to be a dragon when i just bought him... found out he was "broken in " in a rather harsh way and he ( good for him)decided to fight everything. we had to start from scratch. it already cost me half the stable...with him tearing everything down.
Rolkur has had alot of research done on it - horses ridden in a rolkur often have higher heart/stress levels and is a highly unnatural thing for a horse. Additionally in many of ankys clinics that can be viewed on you tube the horse in the rolkur does not track up in walk or trot and it isn't a pretty picture with her hanging onto the curb..... would be interesting to see how she trains them to do a rolkur as id put money on it that she yanks them round.
@helenemich Roxette, fading like a flower
@MsSpriet: Roxette - Fading like a flower
That's because the people in the regulating body are afraid to "rock the boat", knowing that if they say anything against Anky, Andreas and their supporters they will never work again. The system is corrupt and horses are being destroyed every year because of these weak individuals.
yea, sure it is...
I'm fairly sure this is the same Anky I went to school with - if so she says a couple sentences to you that just destroy you-she was an evil, ruthless nasty person. And that was why she won so much. And if she's not the same one - apologies to you - sincerely
@warmbloodsmaximus: I wonder why she is three times gold medal winner????????? Hmmmmmm... explain please....
If only you saw her in training. Rolkurr Rolkurr and Lets see? MORE ROLKURR! Her horses are FORCED to do things. Despite how good she looks. She is making her horses suffer
cameleon, IPS, Gestion, keltec and olympic, is a name of a concern, it's not the name of the horse.
oh yea i know that
And anyone with any knowledge what so ever should be able to recognize a lateral walk. If you want a reason to do dressage, why dont you look up phillipe karl. Or Reiner Klimke. Their work is something to aspire to.
o wrong one xD
@BadPony312 jks Edward Gal is..
Het zijn geen onnatuurlijke bewegingen. De hyperflexie die Anky gebruikt daarentegen wel.
getting wide behind or in front, moving too much forward or double beat rhythm are serious faults" FEI on Piaffe
"swinging the forehand or the hindquarters from one side to the other, as well as jerky movements of the forelegs or the hind legs.." FEI on passage.
The head should remain in a steady position, as a rule slightly in front of the vertical, with a supple poll as the highest point of the neck"
@themultihanna
Sorry my dear but I have no Idea what you have just said? x
Bonfire was known for his bad walk. Remember not all grand prix horses have amazing paces.
How can you even be so ignorant as to try to tell me that that walk is ideal. He is nowhere near tracking up in the collected walk, it is lateral and he is constantly behind the vertical. In the extended gait he is still lateral and barely tracking up at all. There should be a large over track in the extended gait and ideally in the collected he should, at the least, be tracking up. lateralizing of the walk is described by the FEI as a serious fault and degredation of the gait.
i dont know anky but i pent a bit of time a top barn in germany where i watched the technique ued by people who were reagrded a ome of the bet. not a good way to ride, ill put it that way. apology for bad grammer, lap top copped a flood of water from a burt fih tank and now a few button dont work
Dan weet jij niet echgt veel van paarden af...
Als je paarden in de wei ziet, doen ze deze oefeningen ook al, en als een paard iets niet leuk vind, zou die echt niet zo door de baan heen gaan hoor, er zit geen stukje spanning en frustratie in Bonfire, en ook in de meeste andere paarden niet. Sommige paarden vinden iets moeilijk, maar dat is net als bij mensen.
ouch
how DARE you compare those two! there is a huge difference between the two. Dog fighting is ILLEGAL where as "The FEI called a meeting of trainers, riders and vets in Lausanne in February of 2006 to discuss the issues arising from the allegations made by the press. The meeting concluded that although potentially damaging in inexperienced hands these methods were acceptable in the hands of experts. "Hyper flexing of the neck" was officially condoned by the recognized regulatory body the FEI."
of the both of them, the kiwi judges wouldn't place her ahead of them. I imagine possibly because there is a stigma attached to having competed at the Olympics. It might just be a conspiracy theory but I reckon that bias judging happens a lot, everywhere. Dressage is not a fair competition by ny means because it's all based on a certain panel of judges opinion and no matter how "well educated" these people claim to be, they will always be affected by there own beliefs, likes and dislikes and..