Have a BMW Wiliams 125cc in London, been in my garage for 10 years, after watching this video I sent it to BMW for servicing and MOT. Will either use it or sell it by Spring 2023.
Yes, there are C1's in New Zealand. When the C1 was first released, due to the nature of our work at the time, we visited BMW Munich and asked that they bring them to NZ. No joy. Then came the America's Cup, and the Italian challenger asked the government to approve them in the Cup Village (BMW was a cup sponsor). So they became approved for use in NZ (but helmets were required), and BMW brought in about 50 to be sold at motorcycle dealerships (not car dealers). The motorbike guys thought they were girly, and they did not sell well. Finally BMW decided to cut the price in half - apparently they did this world-wide, meaning they dropped from NZ$14,000 to $7,000 - and the gold rush was on. Our group bought two... one executive silver C200 and one mustard yellow that came with the stereo system. Half a year later the chairman of the board involuntarily tested the crash system when he was following behind a bus that suddenly veered left to avoid a stationary car turning right. At 40 kph, the chairman hit the Subaru wagon and instantly turned into a ping-pong ball, bouncing all over the road, damaging every panel, breaking the side protector, bending the front and emerging completely unhurt, except for a minor tear in his puffer jacket. The C1 was a write off, but we kept it for spares. Turns out the dealer had one remaining new old stock, and the insurance company bought it for the chairman. BTW the Subaru was a mess. The C1 crash design did its job. Later NZTA changed its fees for registering vehicles, and since the C1 safety was not considered, motorcycle rego was about $450 whereas cars were reduced as low as $100. At the same time, ebikes were coming in - no rego, no anything, and the C1's were sold. I am sure they are around, but I've not seen any on the road for a long while now. They were weird, and the CV transmission was annoying. They should have been electric, and BMW is flirting with a C1-E, but for now, the C1 remains an oddity.
Thank your for sharing that story!! Interesting hoe things pan out sometimes isn’t it? I remember spotting a red and black C1 on I believe Wehiki island, about 10yrs ago, the only one I’d seen in a year in NZ. Always thought it was interesting, but it is so much more then that. It feels safe, it’s fun, but a faff to park and maintain. Love it though. By the way, could have guessed it would be a Subaru to collide with, chances seemed to be 5/10 cars to be a Subaru in NZ ;)
Hi David, I have a C 125 Executive full optional( roof top, alarm, passenger kit, abs, heated seat and handles, speakers system plus the other optional that came with the executive version) 20K km, drove 400km right after I bought it and did approx 3K Km on it since I got it last year. I have other scooters and motorcycles so I don’t use it often but I love it! Pros : nice riding position much better than scooters, fun to ride once you get used to it, powerful break (ABS version), heated handles and seat, speakers (if I could get them to work) mileage, makes you smile, no helmet in the Summer, priceless questions form people asking if it is a new model/prototype 😂 Cons: no storage (the only optional I am missing is the top case which I refuse to buy)noisy engine with lots of vibrations, cumbersome to park/ to get in get out, can’t park on uneven surfaces, and if you forget something once you are all strapped and ready to go it’s a pita because you have to do the all procedure all over again...and costly maintenance because nobody but BMW knows how to deal with this thing😀 Anyway not so many left here in Italy, because of the costly maintenance once they stopped working many of them were chopped and use for parts which is not bad for the few owners left.
I always fancied owing one of these, the Williams F1 200cc model, and it's 2019 and I have seen one with only 10k miles on it, in mint condition. I think it is a modern classic and will be worth a lot in the near future.
They sold it at the price of a VW Polo at that time - a four passenger car. And if you look at their scooters now, again tending to be overpriced. I bought it used and am loving it for years know. In Germany there are still about 3 000 running. Maintenace at BMW makes you poor! You definetly have to find an alternative, and some parts are just out....
The reason they tried to sell them in the car dealerships was because they wanted them to be included in the fleet average fuel economy calculations. The EU required a tax on car manufacturers that did not meet the minimum average fuel economy for their fleet of cars. When BMW heard they could not use the C1 to offset the gas guzzler M range vehicles, they lost interest in the C1.
Hi David. You just got a new subscriber. Really nice review: you clarified many interesing points about this weird, but super fun "thing" 😂. Here, in Italy, there are more C1s than you can imagine, not many of them, but quite a lot, considering the small amount they produced. There's always one parked in front of my house (I live in Turin) and I remeber I used to see plenty of them, here in Piedmont, back at the time, when i was younger.
I saw these a lot in London in the early 2000s. London was pretty perfect place for these- no one ever went 120km/hr. I drove a vespa and was pretty interested at the time.
London would be absolutely the place to ride one of these! In a suit if need be. But from what I've heard, in the UK you'd be required to wear a helmet on a C1. Still, great little machine. If they would come out with a newer version of the C1 with more highway capabilities and bit more luggage options I'd be in line :)
Have a c200. Great through the city. And yes, you stay dry when it rains 😁. The only thing I don't like is driving on the freeway above 100kp/h, you catch too much wind and that makes the c1 very unstable .
Hello kids! I own a C1, the 125cc version and for all it's weirdness I have come to love it and depend on it for my daily commute and in-city chores. The engine is a Rotax and the bike was made in Italy by Benelli for BMW and it IS safe. I should know. I took a dive at 80km while testing my friend's C1 and came off with just scratches. Granted, it's not your usual scooter. It is top heavy as you pointed out and it requires a bit getting used to specially on the turns. But when it rains, you don't get wet and with the heated seat back, you don't get cold. As far as repairs go, at 37.000 km, I have only done regular maintenance work (brakes, oil changes, rear shocks, filters etc.) and only one major repair to the electrical system and only because I made the mistake of pressure washing the poor thing. Parts are a bit hard to come by but I avoid downtime by keeping it maintained. About that 33km/lt, well.... not so my friend. Mine gets about 270km per 9lt tank, (30km/lt at best) since the day I got it but it's not so bad when you consider my weight of 130kg plus the bike's weight of 186kg (with all the juices). Over all, I would say it does what I bought it to do plus it's a great conversation piece too!
In Greece! They are not common here but being that they were made primarily for the UK market they are fairly easy to obtain. Depending on the mileage and condition their price range can be as low as 700USD or as high as 4,000USD. They are available also in Germany as well as other countries but the good ones come from the UK. They also have the mechanics and parts. Look into this forum c1forum.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum_show.pl for more info!
Cool, Greece! Great country to ride around without wearing a helmet or riding gear in the warm warm summer I suspect. I always assumed the C1 was designed for busy cities like London, Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin, Köln, etc., but I've seen quite a lot of them in the more southern countries in the EU. Here in The Netherlands without hills, but with rain and ridiculously busy roads, the C1s are getting more popular now then they ever were. Apparently there are about 400 riding around in our small country.
Netherlands? For some reason I thought you were Canadian! :) I believe there are about 20 in my city of Thessaloniki. We have a lot of rain here too so I can understand why they would be useful in the Netherlands! I don't have any of the rain protection plastics neither the side panels nor the back, yet I don't get wet, just a little.. But I'm currently working on some removable acrylic foot guards mounted to side panels to save my shoes from getting wet. If they work out, I'll post photos here.
David Bakker yeah is wonderful to ride without helmet and i can ensure is very very secure "motorbike" as i have a little accident with another car and i did not make any damage.
I lived in Zurich from 2001-2011. I first owned a C1-125 ca. 2004 and later in 2009 found a god deal on a C1-200, so for 2 years I owned 2! I loved them. I took a road trip to Italy on the C1-125, which was a lot of fun, and that's really the truth, if it makes you smile while driving it, it's worth all the cons. It would go into limp mode when doing long hill climbs on mountain passes. After the trip the BMW repair shop said the intake manifold had a leak from warping (I think) and needed to be planed flat & reinstalled. It would still occasionally go into limp mode, but less often. In 2011 I moved back to the USA, I considered trying to import the C1-200 but the chances of it being accepted by the govt agency for street use was slim & I am not a C1 mechanic, so who would fix it..? -I sold them both in Zurich before moved.
Ah that is like a love letter to the C1 :) Sad you had to sell them, happy you had such a great time with them. I heard the C1s are still quite popular in Switzerland, and if I ever needed to sell mine I could very easily do so in Switzerland. Don't know if that is true, but, since you owned two out there, there must be something to riding a C1 en Suisse!
Nice! So you must have ridden quite a lot of kilometers on it? Any problems? Do you do maintenance yourself or have you found a good place to get it fixed?
David Bakker Short commute to work only 46000 km did all the maintenance at local BMW, a bit expensive but still very funny to drive and “safe”. You should get one
Almost for a year now. And wauw, so easy, so convenient. Highway speeds are a bit more disappointing than I expected, but that is not what it's for. Use it more than my 'real' motorcycle :)
It's funny you mention 44 teeth they have just finished a series of budget bike battle and Chris used a c1 in that 🤣 I now own that very same c1 you should check it out 👍🏼👍🏼
Hey, I am from Belgium and own a C1 200, yellow. It is great fun and practical, but you have to get use to drive it and the parkingstand is fragile, indeed !
I had one in Norway for a couple of years, an excellent daily commuter, I had the 125 cc. Fit for purpose - if that is single person transport, My ownership was from 2010 at the time I had to be onsite at a customer site 25 km away from home through Oslo, this vehicle guaranteed I could make it there in time, economically. Steering is mostly like a ultralight plane with high wings - the head stays in place and you move the center of gravity by steering away from where you want to go initially.... charming.
100% agree with you, doesn't matter what others think, if it makes you happy it makes you happy. And I too think it is a rather wonderful machine the C1 :) And Hamburg, we here in The Netherlands hear "it is the new Berlin" in hipness and such. Is it?
David Bakker Yes Hamburg is wonderful. A green city with many sites. Overyone will find here his favorite place. If it is the Reeperbahn or Sternschanze. Or even the Binnenalster or Stadtpark, planten un blomen. Just type those keeyword in google maps and you will have a good preview.
The back box is affectionately referred to as a PDB in the UK. The Pizza Delivery Box. I bought my C1 new from a BMW dealer with the PDB, so the lock and the bike ignition key is the same. In fact one key opens all the bike's locks. The glove box, the seat underwhich the fuel filler can be found, the pillion seat lock and another secret lockable storage compartment under the PDB where the battery is also located. The C1 200 will cruise all day at 65mph and reach 72mph, so faster than trucks that travel on the highways. I have riden mine all over Europe and on one occasion, even beat a friend in a car from North Holland to South Holland, (5-hour journey) because despite his higher motorway speeds, he kept getting stuck in traffic. They might have been expensive to buy new, but you got a lot for your money. A sophisticated reliable engine (four valves per cylinder, fuel injection, computer controlled with sensors everywhere even in the exhaust), stainless steel exhaust system, ABS brakes, heated seat and hand grips, 4-way flashing indicators, windscreen wiper and washer, a laminated glass windscreen (not plastic), a sophisticated stand system that has a weak link clip to prevent damage. (so when you find a stand not operating, you just need to fit a new link clip) You are meant to lift your weight off the seat when operating the stand to ensure there is sufficient space under the stand to swing it back under the bike and visa versa. What tends to happen is that people forget or don't know. They force the stand lever and break the weak link! It's not fragile, it's breaking because of poor handling. My C1 is 20 years old and still on the manufacturers original weak link! I even need to show the mechanics at the MOT test centre each year how to operate the stand because I have seen them struggling with it! Even so called professionals don't know how to use the stands! People who dislike the C1, don't understand it. To them it is a bike with a roof for girlies that don't like getting wet! They just don't understand that the roof is part of a roll cage or safety cell that can suport the weight of 2 tons! It protects the rider from what is called 'Uncontrolled Free Flight' something that every other motorcyclist experiences when involved in a crash! They fly through the air uncontrollably and rely on their helmet and protective clothing. By the way, there are micro switches in the seatbelt connectors. If the seatbelts are not connected, the engine will not rev past idle, ensuring that the seatbelts must be connected up. I say connected up rather than worn, because some stupid riders have discovered that you can connect them up, then simply sit on the seatbelts. 34 thousand C1's were built and sold. I understand that there has never been a fatality of anyone riding a C1 who was wearing the seatbelts correctly, but a number of riders have died going through the windscreen because they weren't wearing their seatbelts! Finally wearing a helmet in a C1 is bad news. On impact the riders body is restrained by the seatbelts and like in a car, the drivers head is thrown forward causing whiplash. Now add an extra kilogram or two with the weight of a helmet! Serious neck injuries! 😢 In the UK I wear a super lightweight snowboarding helmet. Technically the helmet isn't legal because it is not a proper motorcycle helmet, but it looks similar and the police leave me alone. My neck then has a fighting chance if ever I am involved in an accident. They are fun to ride. Because of the high centre of gravity the weight moves back on acceleration pushing the back wheel down onto the road, adding to better rear wheel traction. The continuous variable transmission (single speed gearing) means that 0 to 30mph on dry roads is very, very good! I always leave sports bikes behind at the lights. Because the acceleration is so good, but also because they don't expect the C1 to be so quick and are not ready for me to bolt away. BMW C1 is the safest motorcycle in the world bar none and on today's roads, is there anything more important than that. Definitely ahead of it's time and a true modern classic. 😊
Ha David! mooi ding die C1. Ik vraag me alleen af of je nou echt wel droog blijft als het regent (en dat doet het vaak hier ;) ). Of moet je dan alsnog iets aan dat je droog moet houden? Of zijn er andere zeilen oid voor aan de zijkant?
Echt droog blijf je inderdaad niet. Buitje lukt wel, zeker als het binnen bebouwde kom is. Hardere regen en wind, of snelweg dan ga je zeker nat worden. Echt, een combi van C1/Twizzy/... zou geweldig zijn, motor belasting betalen, op de stoep parkeren en droog rijden over de snelweg dat zou ideaal zijn :)
top, thanks voor de reactie! Je zou natuurlijk wel een sterk zeil kunnen vastzetten aan de zijkant. Wel minder mooi, maar wel droog. Twizzy is een mooi ding. Ben nu aan t kijken naar de Biro of vigorous 1500. Blijf je allebei droog bij en op de stoep parkeren!
First ride is strange isn’t it? But then... I’d love to ride mine over to your beautiful country and see some of the Lake District again. Am I correct in thinking I’d have to wear a helmet on my C1 in England? Could I take a chance?
Vicmot First of all, they ‘ll be the first respond team to arrive at the scenes where the normal ambulance unable to reach in the urban area whenever there is a traffic jam. forum.jorsindo.com/thread-2122734-1-1.html
@@Vicmot As I have understood it, the point of motorcycle usage for paramedics is to get a paramedic and some equipement on site as soon as possible to stabilize the patient. Transportation of said patient is of later concern. (but I could be mistaken, not my field)
I have research and found some in mint condition with only 16 - 26 k KM on them, average price for these here in Mexico City is $5000 USD, what about spare parts... would you think there is ? with the amount of sold units i would not think so
Certainly a challenge, 20-25000 made, bmw does keep some parts (a light switch for example but not the hazard switch even though they are essentially the same parts but with different prints). Some people make their own parts with 3D printers, but it is getting more difficult.
@@DavidBakker As far as I know >30 000 were built (~33 000?); >3000 still running in Germany, today, many of them on a regular/daily basis; not bad for a >20 year old machine. The trunk in the back of mine is fixed with four hooks to the base, so it can't fall of. But I haven't tried it with the legendary case of beer on a lomg and bumpy road....;-)
The idea is great, but the execution is not what I would desire. I believe a much more simplistic, more scooter utility like, simple Lexan shield/canopy with an open back for airflow, and a simple manual wiper would find more of a market. Just the cost of replacing a cracked windshield would on this unit would be a deal breaker.
I have a red 125cc and have not ridden it for four years and so the fuel got stale and killed the fuel pump, after watching your video, I'm going to take it out of storage and get it running again.
My C1 has been off road for a while due absence (out of country). Now the engine won't turn, temperature lights does not come on. Every other light comes on when ignition is turned on. Can anyone help please?
It's for people who don't give a f. about appearing cool and not for very long distances. I find it super smart, though legs can break easily in case of accident. Ideally the new born Quadro with four wheels in this system, of course a 125-176 would not be viable - maybe a 3-500cc. I'm buying one for commuting to the train station and forget here for a few days. David, thanks for your review!
Thank u for the great video! Been doing a lot of research on a scooter these days. I'm in Montreal, Canada and my neighbor a few houses down is selling one. Doing some research before potentially talking to him. Not the style I wanted, but if the price is right I just may purchase it. I've wanted a motorcycle license for long enough. This requires no motorcycle license, it will save a ton on gas, and it (might) be fun to go to and from work. Cheers
Sounds like a plan! Best thing to do; ask if a local repair shop will actually work on your C1 or be prepared to do it yourself. If both are out of the question….
But from experience, it’s the best motorcycle I’ve ever ridden simply because of the no helmet required in this country. How is Canada on helmet law on a C1?
Kia Ora Max! Nice to hear from my favourite country in the world :) I thought I'd seen a red C1 on Waiheke island years and years ago, but wasn't sure. Now I'm quite sure it was. Bummer you have to wear a helmet on a C1! Guess BMW's lobby didn't get through back in the year 2000 :(
IS GOOD IF ITS TOPCASE WILL BE MODIFIED FOR ANY COURIER NEEDS. BUT STILL 65/100 NEEDED TO PERFECTION INCLUDING THE WHEELS. THE C1 BMW is TESTED & THE SAFER YOU CAN HAVE ALONG OTHERS. 👍😜
I'm just considering one in NZ (it's on Trade Me, our version of eBay) just for a laugh... kinda annoying we have to wear a helmet with it but I think it'd be fun - if a little weird.
I think I’ve seen a red one on Waiheke island about a decade ago, would be about the perfect place for one I think! Wonder how they cope with inclines though… They’re a laugh, but by now you have to be a bit handy yourself.
Thanks for the video! Btw, I´m seriously thinking to buy a BMW 2003 C1 model in Mexico City. It has 30,000 km and it is a little bit stetically damaged but nothing seriuos. The thing is I need it for delivery so I need the case, I hope I can find the case.
Oeh the top case is a difficult one to get in Europe, wonder if that is true in your country as well. Would you be allowed to ride it without helmet? ( unfortunately never been to Mexico so I don’t know laws and how strict they are)
For someone who hates cars and tries to use them the less possible this bmw is great. However I have never seen one and I'm not too interested. I still use normal scooters to get around. Might consider a 3 wheeled one to be safer as a next purchase. PS: I'm also a motorbike rider but hate using gears in the traffic. My riding friends will kill me if I get a 3 wheeled scooter but I will anyway.
@@DavidBakker Actually there is three on sale from 2100€ to 6990€ in the Finnish "Nettimoto" auction site. One is even a "executive" model with brown leather seats 😁 If you want to check them the page can be changed to English in the upper right corner.
BMW sold a few in Israel. I saw one in Tel Aviv last week. Owners love them and won't part with them. Pity they didn't sell well enough to give BMW ROI. A 2-wheeled car with a full safety cell. Perhaps all it needed was more power and 2 wheels up front and who knows, it may have been a different story...
They should make it 3 wheeler with tilting lock. So the rider no need to hold the weight. Because it's heavy. Or even better if they can built self tilting bike that won't fall like the Liger from India.
I live in Malaysia and no, I haven't seen one. Most bikes in here are 'underbones' like scooter but with gears(some with manual clutch, most are autos). They are mostly lighter than scooters and more fun because you can change gears.
In Norway! That would be lovely to have a roof driving around there :) I tried a Norway way tour in the big motorcycle and wished I took something better than a hammock tent.
I've seen many in Berlin and Barcelona but never seen any in the UK that I can recall. Shame really. :/ Definitely buy if I had the extra cash for a 3rd vehicle though. x'D
About 6 months ago I read about a beautiful young English girl, a student, working part time to get through university. Because she was a hard up worker she rode a motor scooter. One day she lost concentration and someone braked suddenly very hard in front of her. She had a helmet on but died because her neck broke when she was ejected onto the car. This wouldn’t have happened on a BMW C1. BMW tried to do something. When people make smart arrested, sanctimonious, knee jerk reviews they destroy good life changing life saving ideas. I see this know it all negative person all the time make reviews or comments. The C1 should have been a success. Bad, but ignorant reviews destroyed it.
As much as a four passenger car (VW Polo), so it was a great concept , only overpriced. But if you think of it. I still ride mine after >20 years. So for me, as I bought it used, it was agreat bargain.
Sure, but it was very heavy - they used a Rotax engine .- the company being most known for light airplane, snowmobile etc ie smaller engines with high performance. Worked great, but when the tractor - trailer next to you is passed at 100 Km/h you can feel the impact of the large vehicles aerodynamics impacting the top of the C1 making it potentially less stable if not countered correctly.
Borrowed a 125 C1 in the UK for a 30 Mile journey.....it was slow and Noisy...had a high centre of Gravity.. The Rain came in through the sides ,luckily I had full Bike clothing on. as the rider is way back from the front the steering was far too light Vibration was bad awful thing. it makes a Honda C90 seem like a beautiful bike...which it is.
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Have a BMW Wiliams 125cc in London, been in my garage for 10 years, after watching this video I sent it to BMW for servicing and MOT. Will either use it or sell it by Spring 2023.
Yes, there are C1's in New Zealand. When the C1 was first released, due to the nature of our work at the time, we visited BMW Munich and asked that they bring them to NZ. No joy. Then came the America's Cup, and the Italian challenger asked the government to approve them in the Cup Village (BMW was a cup sponsor). So they became approved for use in NZ (but helmets were required), and BMW brought in about 50 to be sold at motorcycle dealerships (not car dealers). The motorbike guys thought they were girly, and they did not sell well. Finally BMW decided to cut the price in half - apparently they did this world-wide, meaning they dropped from NZ$14,000 to $7,000 - and the gold rush was on. Our group bought two... one executive silver C200 and one mustard yellow that came with the stereo system.
Half a year later the chairman of the board involuntarily tested the crash system when he was following behind a bus that suddenly veered left to avoid a stationary car turning right. At 40 kph, the chairman hit the Subaru wagon and instantly turned into a ping-pong ball, bouncing all over the road, damaging every panel, breaking the side protector, bending the front and emerging completely unhurt, except for a minor tear in his puffer jacket. The C1 was a write off, but we kept it for spares. Turns out the dealer had one remaining new old stock, and the insurance company bought it for the chairman. BTW the Subaru was a mess. The C1 crash design did its job.
Later NZTA changed its fees for registering vehicles, and since the C1 safety was not considered, motorcycle rego was about $450 whereas cars were reduced as low as $100. At the same time, ebikes were coming in - no rego, no anything, and the C1's were sold. I am sure they are around, but I've not seen any on the road for a long while now.
They were weird, and the CV transmission was annoying. They should have been electric, and BMW is flirting with a C1-E, but for now, the C1 remains an oddity.
Thank your for sharing that story!! Interesting hoe things pan out sometimes isn’t it? I remember spotting a red and black C1 on I believe Wehiki island, about 10yrs ago, the only one I’d seen in a year in NZ. Always thought it was interesting, but it is so much more then that. It feels safe, it’s fun, but a faff to park and maintain. Love it though.
By the way, could have guessed it would be a Subaru to collide with, chances seemed to be 5/10 cars to be a Subaru in NZ ;)
Hi David,
I have a C 125 Executive full optional( roof top, alarm, passenger kit, abs, heated seat and handles, speakers system plus the other optional that came with the executive version) 20K km, drove 400km right after I bought it and did approx 3K Km on it since I got it last year. I have other scooters and motorcycles so I don’t use it often but I love it!
Pros : nice riding position much better than scooters, fun to ride once you get used to it, powerful break (ABS version), heated handles and seat, speakers (if I could get them to work) mileage, makes you smile, no helmet in the Summer, priceless questions form people asking if it is a new model/prototype 😂
Cons: no storage (the only optional I am missing is the top case which I refuse to buy)noisy engine with lots of vibrations, cumbersome to park/ to get in get out, can’t park on uneven surfaces, and if you forget something once you are all strapped and ready to go it’s a pita because you have to do the all procedure all over again...and costly maintenance because nobody but BMW knows how to deal with this thing😀
Anyway not so many left here in Italy, because of the costly maintenance once they stopped working many of them were chopped and use for parts which is not bad for the few owners left.
Oh indeed, it is a hassle when you get on/in and remember you forgot something...
I always fancied owing one of these, the Williams F1 200cc model, and it's 2019 and I have seen one with only 10k miles on it, in mint condition. I think it is a modern classic and will be worth a lot in the near future.
Just bought exactly that……. Williams 200 mint with 9k miles……. Much excitement
It was definitely ahead of it's time. I wish they'd make a new one now, I'd buy it in a heardbeat
Agreed! A new one would be so welcome these days
They sold it at the price of a VW Polo at that time - a four passenger car. And if you look at their scooters now, again tending to be overpriced. I bought it used and am loving it for years know. In Germany there are still about 3 000 running. Maintenace at BMW makes you poor! You definetly have to find an alternative, and some parts are just out....
The reason they tried to sell them in the car dealerships was because they wanted them to be included in the fleet average fuel economy calculations.
The EU required a tax on car manufacturers that did not meet the minimum average fuel economy for their fleet of cars.
When BMW heard they could not use the C1 to offset the gas guzzler M range vehicles, they lost interest in the C1.
@timo scoot thank you so much! That was the reason, I did not know that :) Thank you for adding that bit of knowledge!
Rodney here from Cape Town
Followed one on the way to work this morning 26.02.22 still in immaculate condition!
Lovely! And what a country to ride one!
Hi David. You just got a new subscriber. Really nice review: you clarified many interesing points about this weird, but super fun "thing" 😂.
Here, in Italy, there are more C1s than you can imagine, not many of them, but quite a lot, considering the small amount they produced. There's always one parked in front of my house (I live in Turin) and I remeber I used to see plenty of them, here in Piedmont, back at the time, when i was younger.
I saw these a lot in London in the early 2000s. London was pretty perfect place for these- no one ever went 120km/hr. I drove a vespa and was pretty interested at the time.
London would be absolutely the place to ride one of these! In a suit if need be. But from what I've heard, in the UK you'd be required to wear a helmet on a C1. Still, great little machine. If they would come out with a newer version of the C1 with more highway capabilities and bit more luggage options I'd be in line :)
Can confirm! You needed a helmet. Maybe these will make a comeback in the electric age! They kind of look like a SMART sawed in two.
Haha, indeed it does look like half a Smart :)
I wouldnt fancy driving in london on one knowing how awkward they can be
They ride like nothing ele ive ridden
Have a c200. Great through the city. And yes, you stay dry when it rains 😁. The only thing I don't like is driving on the freeway above 100kp/h, you catch too much wind and that makes the c1 very unstable .
Yup. I'd love it if BMW (or another company) would make something like the C1, but with a bit more powerrr!
How can you stay dry when it rains if both sides are wide open? 🤣 Couple of turns, or some heavy rains from the sides and you're wet as a mf
Hello kids!
I own a C1, the 125cc version and for all it's weirdness I have come to love it and depend on it for my daily commute and in-city chores.
The engine is a Rotax and the bike was made in Italy by Benelli for BMW and it IS safe. I should know. I took a dive at 80km while testing my friend's C1 and came off with just scratches.
Granted, it's not your usual scooter. It is top heavy as you pointed out and it requires a bit getting used to specially on the turns. But when it rains, you don't get wet and with the heated seat back, you don't get cold.
As far as repairs go, at 37.000 km, I have only done regular maintenance work (brakes, oil changes, rear shocks, filters etc.) and only one major repair to the electrical system and only because I made the mistake of pressure washing the poor thing. Parts are a bit hard to come by but I avoid downtime by keeping it maintained.
About that 33km/lt, well.... not so my friend. Mine gets about 270km per 9lt tank, (30km/lt at best) since the day I got it but it's not so bad when you consider my weight of 130kg plus the bike's weight of 186kg (with all the juices).
Over all, I would say it does what I bought it to do plus it's a great conversation piece too!
Yeah right on! Weird but wonderful it is :) Heated seat, that sounds fantastic, I'd love to have that on mine.
Which country do you ride your C1?
In Greece!
They are not common here but being that they were made primarily for the UK market they are fairly easy to obtain.
Depending on the mileage and condition their price range can be as low as 700USD or as high as 4,000USD.
They are available also in Germany as well as other countries but the good ones come from the UK. They also have the mechanics and parts. Look into this forum c1forum.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum_show.pl for more info!
Cool, Greece! Great country to ride around without wearing a helmet or riding gear in the warm warm summer I suspect. I always assumed the C1 was designed for busy cities like London, Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin, Köln, etc., but I've seen quite a lot of them in the more southern countries in the EU.
Here in The Netherlands without hills, but with rain and ridiculously busy roads, the C1s are getting more popular now then they ever were. Apparently there are about 400 riding around in our small country.
Netherlands? For some reason I thought you were Canadian! :)
I believe there are about 20 in my city of Thessaloniki. We have a lot of rain here too so I can understand why they would be useful in the Netherlands!
I don't have any of the rain protection plastics neither the side panels nor the back, yet I don't get wet, just a little.. But I'm currently working on some removable acrylic foot guards mounted to side panels to save my shoes from getting wet. If they work out, I'll post photos here.
I've seen a few on the road and for sale here in Portugal, and might buy one in the next weeks.
Loved the vid, tnx.
I got a C1 200 in South Africa and love it!! Going to build one for the wife and tour around a bit!! Really makes me smile!!!
I'm a happy owner of BMW C1 125 cc in Sevilla, Spain!! Thank you for make this video!
Sevilla! Must be great this time of year riding on a C1 :) Thinking of going to the south of Spain this winter for a week to get a bit of sunshine in
David Bakker yeah is wonderful to ride without helmet and i can ensure is very very secure "motorbike" as i have a little accident with another car and i did not make any damage.
I lived in Zurich from 2001-2011. I first owned a C1-125 ca. 2004 and later in 2009 found a god deal on a C1-200, so for 2 years I owned 2! I loved them. I took a road trip to Italy on the C1-125, which was a lot of fun, and that's really the truth, if it makes you smile while driving it, it's worth all the cons. It would go into limp mode when doing long hill climbs on mountain passes. After the trip the BMW repair shop said the intake manifold had a leak from warping (I think) and needed to be planed flat & reinstalled. It would still occasionally go into limp mode, but less often. In 2011 I moved back to the USA, I considered trying to import the C1-200 but the chances of it being accepted by the govt agency for street use was slim & I am not a C1 mechanic, so who would fix it..? -I sold them both in Zurich before moved.
Ah that is like a love letter to the C1 :) Sad you had to sell them, happy you had such a great time with them. I heard the C1s are still quite popular in Switzerland, and if I ever needed to sell mine I could very easily do so in Switzerland. Don't know if that is true, but, since you owned two out there, there must be something to riding a C1 en Suisse!
I got one at Portugal since 2004 it’s my daily commute to work
Nice! So you must have ridden quite a lot of kilometers on it? Any problems? Do you do maintenance yourself or have you found a good place to get it fixed?
David Bakker Short commute to work only 46000 km did all the maintenance at local BMW, a bit expensive but still very funny to drive and “safe”. You should get one
Yeah, they are awesome. This one in the video is mine and I love it :)
Great! For how long ?
Almost for a year now. And wauw, so easy, so convenient. Highway speeds are a bit more disappointing than I expected, but that is not what it's for. Use it more than my 'real' motorcycle :)
2 for sale in New Zealand atm. Each one is around $1500 usd
I had one in South Africa - I loved riding it to work and back home
It's funny you mention 44 teeth they have just finished a series of budget bike battle and Chris used a c1 in that 🤣 I now own that very same c1 you should check it out 👍🏼👍🏼
I’ve seen it! So excited to see a Cwonder in their awesome show! And you own it! Now with siren?
It’s the only bike where you can safely go out in shorts and t-shirt. I have a Williams 200 and love it!
That is a very rare a cool one!
I know of 2 just left in an underground car park with an inch of dust on them. First noticed them 3 years ago so god knows how long they have been sat
Oh noooo! C1 s going to waste 😢
Never saw one on the road but there is one for sale about 2 hours from my house in South Africa
Im from Greece, C1 125. Everyday use from 2011. it is weird and slow but it is very comfortable in any weather.
I have two in Spain, one bought only for spares... Cheers!
Pues si te interesa yo ando con una dando vueltas por Italia
im buying one in the UK! thanks i love this video, for me its all about the safety mate!!
You’re gonna love it I’m sure! Enjoy!
Hey, I am from Belgium and own a C1 200, yellow. It is great fun and practical, but you have to get use to drive it and the parkingstand is fragile, indeed !
Oeh one of those yellow-black ones? That's a pretty good colour!
Mate imagine what bmw in
2022 could do now wow
We really need something this is 2022 so good
Totally agree! We need smaller, safe-ish, weather proof ish motorcycles
I had one in Norway for a couple of years, an excellent daily commuter, I had the 125 cc. Fit for purpose - if that is single person transport, My ownership was from 2010 at the time I had to be onsite at a customer site 25 km away from home through Oslo, this vehicle guaranteed I could make it there in time, economically. Steering is mostly like a ultralight plane with high wings - the head stays in place and you move the center of gravity by steering away from where you want to go initially.... charming.
Did you ride with a helmet?
Depends on the county, in the Netherlands you don’t need to, I know in the UK you have to wear a helmet on the c1
@@jawarider2243 I did, in Norway 2 or 3 wheels means helmet on
The fellas can say what they want. The C1 is great!!!
I have a C1 200 too. It makes me happy when I am driving it in Hamburg.
C1 rocks 🤘
100% agree with you, doesn't matter what others think, if it makes you happy it makes you happy. And I too think it is a rather wonderful machine the C1 :)
And Hamburg, we here in The Netherlands hear "it is the new Berlin" in hipness and such. Is it?
David Bakker
Yes Hamburg is wonderful. A green city with many sites. Overyone will find here his favorite place. If it is the Reeperbahn or Sternschanze. Or even the Binnenalster or Stadtpark, planten un blomen. Just type those keeyword in google maps and you will have a good preview.
It was not bad idea, but the design remind me the Pizza delivery...
It does! And it fits quite some pizza's, so if I ever need some extra cash to cover the maintenance :)
The back box is affectionately referred to as a PDB in the UK. The Pizza Delivery Box. I bought my C1 new from a BMW dealer with the PDB, so the lock and the bike ignition key is the same. In fact one key opens all the bike's locks. The glove box, the seat underwhich the fuel filler can be found, the pillion seat lock and another secret lockable storage compartment under the PDB where the battery is also located.
The C1 200 will cruise all day at 65mph and reach 72mph, so faster than trucks that travel on the highways. I have riden mine all over Europe and on one occasion, even beat a friend in a car from North Holland to South Holland, (5-hour journey) because despite his higher motorway speeds, he kept getting stuck in traffic.
They might have been expensive to buy new, but you got a lot for your money. A sophisticated reliable engine (four valves per cylinder, fuel injection, computer controlled with sensors everywhere even in the exhaust), stainless steel exhaust system, ABS brakes, heated seat and hand grips, 4-way flashing indicators, windscreen wiper and washer, a laminated glass windscreen (not plastic), a sophisticated stand system that has a weak link clip to prevent damage. (so when you find a stand not operating, you just need to fit a new link clip)
You are meant to lift your weight off the seat when operating the stand to ensure there is sufficient space under the stand to swing it back under the bike and visa versa. What tends to happen is that people forget or don't know. They force the stand lever and break the weak link! It's not fragile, it's breaking because of poor handling. My C1 is 20 years old and still on the manufacturers original weak link! I even need to show the mechanics at the MOT test centre each year how to operate the stand because I have seen them struggling with it! Even so called professionals don't know how to use the stands!
People who dislike the C1, don't understand it. To them it is a bike with a roof for girlies that don't like getting wet! They just don't understand that the roof is part of a roll cage or safety cell that can suport the weight of 2 tons! It protects the rider from what is called 'Uncontrolled Free Flight' something that every other motorcyclist experiences when involved in a crash! They fly through the air uncontrollably and rely on their helmet and protective clothing.
By the way, there are micro switches in the seatbelt connectors. If the seatbelts are not connected, the engine will not rev past idle, ensuring that the seatbelts must be connected up. I say connected up rather than worn, because some stupid riders have discovered that you can connect them up, then simply sit on the seatbelts.
34 thousand C1's were built and sold. I understand that there has never been a fatality of anyone riding a C1 who was wearing the seatbelts correctly, but a number of riders have died going through the windscreen because they weren't wearing their seatbelts!
Finally wearing a helmet in a C1 is bad news. On impact the riders body is restrained by the seatbelts and like in a car, the drivers head is thrown forward causing whiplash. Now add an extra kilogram or two with the weight of a helmet! Serious neck injuries! 😢 In the UK I wear a super lightweight snowboarding helmet. Technically the helmet isn't legal because it is not a proper motorcycle helmet, but it looks similar and the police leave me alone. My neck then has a fighting chance if ever I am involved in an accident.
They are fun to ride. Because of the high centre of gravity the weight moves back on acceleration pushing the back wheel down onto the road, adding to better rear wheel traction. The continuous variable transmission (single speed gearing) means that 0 to 30mph on dry roads is very, very good! I always leave sports bikes behind at the lights. Because the acceleration is so good, but also because they don't expect the C1 to be so quick and are not ready for me to bolt away.
BMW C1 is the safest motorcycle in the world bar none and on today's roads, is there anything more important than that.
Definitely ahead of it's time and a true modern classic. 😊
We have some in South Africa .
Just saw it is for sale at a bike shop .
Ha David!
mooi ding die C1. Ik vraag me alleen af of je nou echt wel droog blijft als het regent (en dat doet het vaak hier ;) ). Of moet je dan alsnog iets aan dat je droog moet houden? Of zijn er andere zeilen oid voor aan de zijkant?
Echt droog blijf je inderdaad niet. Buitje lukt wel, zeker als het binnen bebouwde kom is. Hardere regen en wind, of snelweg dan ga je zeker nat worden. Echt, een combi van C1/Twizzy/... zou geweldig zijn, motor belasting betalen, op de stoep parkeren en droog rijden over de snelweg dat zou ideaal zijn :)
top, thanks voor de reactie! Je zou natuurlijk wel een sterk zeil kunnen vastzetten aan de zijkant. Wel minder mooi, maar wel droog.
Twizzy is een mooi ding. Ben nu aan t kijken naar de Biro of vigorous 1500. Blijf je allebei droog bij en op de stoep parkeren!
Mate if you'd have tipped into that canal you'd have been seriously fooked! :)
I used to see quite a lot of these in Paris back in the day!
I live in Indiana and a guy down the street just brought one of these home
Thanks for the video, I just bought a 2002 200. first ride was scart it's so top heavy. Looking forward to pootling around North West England on it.
First ride is strange isn’t it? But then... I’d love to ride mine over to your beautiful country and see some of the Lake District again. Am I correct in thinking I’d have to wear a helmet on my C1 in England? Could I take a chance?
What part of the northwest? I would very like to see it and talk about it. (if you're up for a ride some place)
I’ve just refurbished one here in Taiwan. Bought a retired one from Fire Department of Taipei, we used it as a ambulance when still in service.
How do you uset it as ambulance?
Wauw that is great!
Vicmot First of all, they ‘ll be the first respond team to arrive at the scenes where the normal ambulance unable to reach in the urban area whenever there is a traffic jam. forum.jorsindo.com/thread-2122734-1-1.html
@@Vicmot As I have understood it, the point of motorcycle usage for paramedics is to get a paramedic and some equipement on site as soon as possible to stabilize the patient. Transportation of said patient is of later concern. (but I could be mistaken, not my field)
@@DavidBakker An ambulance is a medically equipped vehicle which transports patients to treatment facilities,
Do you no if you have to wear a helmet in the UK for this
yes there one out east in canada c 1 125 and a few in the usa I ve seen for sale. Canada one sold for 3800 bucks .
That’s a lot of money!
They are in South Africa
There's one in Thailand. I remember seeing it used by foreign retirees 16 years ago. Few months ago I saw one for sale too.
I have research and found some in mint condition with only 16 - 26 k KM on them, average price for these here in Mexico City is $5000 USD, what about spare parts... would you think there is ? with the amount of sold units i would not think so
Certainly a challenge, 20-25000 made, bmw does keep some parts (a light switch for example but not the hazard switch even though they are essentially the same parts but with different prints). Some people make their own parts with 3D printers, but it is getting more difficult.
@@DavidBakker As far as I know >30 000 were built (~33 000?); >3000 still running in Germany, today, many of them on a regular/daily basis; not bad for a >20 year old machine. The trunk in the back of mine is fixed with four hooks to the base, so it can't fall of. But I haven't tried it with the legendary case of beer on a lomg and bumpy road....;-)
The idea is great, but the execution is not what I would desire. I believe a much more simplistic, more scooter utility like, simple Lexan shield/canopy with an open back for airflow, and a simple manual wiper would find more of a market. Just the cost of replacing a cracked windshield would on this unit would be a deal breaker.
I just saw one in Thessaloniki, Greece 🇬🇷 and that lead me to this video...
Cool!
I have a red 125cc and have not ridden it for four years and so the fuel got stale and killed the fuel pump, after watching your video, I'm going to take it out of storage and get it running again.
Yeah! More C1s on the road! Which country will you be riding your red C1?
I'm in sunny South Africa.
I would love to see them in India. Very useful for Zomato and Swiggy Delivery !!
Saw one for sale here in Jersey today. I’m quite tempted.
What do they ask for it?
@@DavidBakker £1300 which I thought was a lot for a bike that may struggle for parts - especially as we've just lost our sole BMW motorrad dealer.
My C1 has been off road for a while due absence (out of country). Now the engine won't turn, temperature lights does not come on. Every other light comes on when ignition is turned on. Can anyone help please?
Oef that sucks! Hopefully someone can shed some light on what’s going on with your C1
It's for people who don't give a f. about appearing cool and not for very long distances.
I find it super smart, though legs can break easily in case of accident.
Ideally the new born Quadro with four wheels in this system, of course a 125-176 would not be viable - maybe a 3-500cc. I'm buying one for commuting to the train station and forget here for a few days.
David, thanks for your review!
There is one of these in Córdoba, México
I've just bought a 2000 on W plate barn find with 1004 miles on the clock unbelievable
Waaauw! I’m very happy for you! What a find! Did you give the C1 a well deserved full service before she goes on the road again?
@@DavidBakker it will be having a full service and mot will post a video when its ready there is no rush tho.
Cool! And please share your video here as well, so all C1 interested people can find it here too :)) Enjoy your C1!
@@andyshooterful is your Bmw C1 for sale ?
Thank u for the great video! Been doing a lot of research on a scooter these days. I'm in Montreal, Canada and my neighbor a few houses down is selling one. Doing some research before potentially talking to him. Not the style I wanted, but if the price is right I just may purchase it.
I've wanted a motorcycle license for long enough. This requires no motorcycle license, it will save a ton on gas, and it (might) be fun to go to and from work.
Cheers
Sounds like a plan! Best thing to do; ask if a local repair shop will actually work on your C1 or be prepared to do it yourself. If both are out of the question….
But from experience, it’s the best motorcycle I’ve ever ridden simply because of the no helmet required in this country. How is Canada on helmet law on a C1?
We got them in New Zealand! Have to wear a helmet but they are still around :) One on Trademe (Ebay of NZ) for $4k NZD.
Kia Ora Max! Nice to hear from my favourite country in the world :) I thought I'd seen a red C1 on Waiheke island years and years ago, but wasn't sure. Now I'm quite sure it was. Bummer you have to wear a helmet on a C1! Guess BMW's lobby didn't get through back in the year 2000 :(
One in Rotherham
England......
I love this ...Unfortunately, I couldn't find it in my country
IS GOOD IF ITS TOPCASE WILL BE MODIFIED FOR ANY COURIER NEEDS.
BUT STILL 65/100 NEEDED TO PERFECTION INCLUDING THE WHEELS.
THE C1 BMW is TESTED & THE SAFER YOU CAN HAVE ALONG OTHERS. 👍😜
In Switzerland you rarely see them but there are a lot who are trying to sell them.
I'm just considering one in NZ (it's on Trade Me, our version of eBay) just for a laugh... kinda annoying we have to wear a helmet with it but I think it'd be fun - if a little weird.
I think I’ve seen a red one on Waiheke island about a decade ago, would be about the perfect place for one I think! Wonder how they cope with inclines though… They’re a laugh, but by now you have to be a bit handy yourself.
Two for sale in New Zealand today!
Vienna/Austria :-) great review!
Thanks for the video! Btw, I´m seriously thinking to buy a BMW 2003 C1 model in Mexico City. It has 30,000 km and it is a little bit stetically damaged but nothing seriuos. The thing is I need it for delivery so I need the case, I hope I can find the case.
Oeh the top case is a difficult one to get in Europe, wonder if that is true in your country as well. Would you be allowed to ride it without helmet? ( unfortunately never been to Mexico so I don’t know laws and how strict they are)
I saw one in Keswick Ontario, just outside Toronto Canada.
Hahahaha why am I watching this video? Because that same Keswick scoot is on Kijiji and I just had to see what it's all about 😂😂
I would love one of these.
You should :) And bmw should make a new one :)
Found one for sale in New Zealand.!
Should I…. Just to add something weird to my garage🤣
Well how often do youhave that opportunity to buy a C1?
For someone who hates cars and tries to use them the less possible this bmw is great. However I have never seen one and I'm not too interested. I still use normal scooters to get around. Might consider a 3 wheeled one to be safer as a next purchase.
PS: I'm also a motorbike rider but hate using gears in the traffic. My riding friends will kill me if I get a 3 wheeled scooter but I will anyway.
Totally do it and get the 3 wheel you want, don’t worry what people think 😆
There is one for sale here in Finland. 6990€ 2000km on it. Funky looking device :D
Not the first place I would expect a C1! But 2000kms is very little
@@DavidBakker Actually there is three on sale from 2100€ to 6990€ in the Finnish "Nettimoto" auction site. One is even a "executive" model with brown leather seats 😁 If you want to check them the page can be changed to English in the upper right corner.
Wauw three on sale….! That is quite a lote
Have seen a few in Johannesburg, South Africa
Another country it would make sense to ride a C1! Nice!
BMW sold a few in Israel. I saw one in Tel Aviv last week. Owners love them and won't part with them. Pity they didn't sell well enough to give BMW ROI. A 2-wheeled car with a full safety cell. Perhaps all it needed was more power and 2 wheels up front and who knows, it may have been a different story...
Exactly!! Or bmw was just too much ahead of the times.. A 2019 three wheeled more power electric version could probably do well...
They should make it 3 wheeler with tilting lock. So the rider no need to hold the weight. Because it's heavy. Or even better if they can built self tilting bike that won't fall like the Liger from India.
I live in Malaysia and no, I haven't seen one. Most bikes in here are 'underbones' like scooter but with gears(some with manual clutch, most are autos). They are mostly lighter than scooters and more fun because you can change gears.
If they made an electric version I am sure it would sell well in 2021
I’d think so too. A local C1 specialist had the plan to convert some of them to electric, but factory would be so much better
I spottet one in Rome in 01/2018. it was silver an parking inbetween countless Honda scooters near the Station termini.
Rome! Seems like a logical place for a C1 :)
Definitely in the UK seen one for sale this morning
I saw 6 in London in the space of an hour taxi journey
Perfect place for C1s I’d imagine! No congestion charge for two wheelers I suppose!
There is one for sale in Toronto Canada
Just purchased one, I live in North Devon (UK)
Lovely part of the UK! Enjoy your C1 !
How much did you pay for it buddy?
@@kidda74 hey, I paid 2k, low mileage, 1 previous owner, well taken care of (garaged) fresh 12months mot.
Won’t believe it but there is one here on Zanzibar!
Oh now I have to check out Zanzibar
I like it
There are a few in Portugal
My drivig teacher for taking moped and A1 license use it all the time i Norway
In Norway! That would be lovely to have a roof driving around there :) I tried a Norway way tour in the big motorcycle and wished I took something better than a hammock tent.
I've seen many in Berlin and Barcelona but never seen any in the UK that I can recall. Shame really. :/ Definitely buy if I had the extra cash for a 3rd vehicle though. x'D
About 6 months ago I read about a beautiful young English girl, a student, working part time to get through university. Because she was a hard up worker she rode a motor scooter. One day she lost concentration and someone braked suddenly very hard in front of her. She had a helmet on but died because her neck broke when she was ejected onto the car. This wouldn’t have happened on a BMW C1. BMW tried to do something. When people make smart arrested, sanctimonious, knee jerk reviews they destroy good life changing life saving ideas. I see this know it all negative person all the time make reviews or comments. The C1 should have been a success. Bad, but ignorant reviews destroyed it.
Exactly. The c1 is The only safe-ish motorcycle... in the world. And very frugal on fuel. It should have or at least in hindsight be applauded
Lol That's Van Heemskerckstraat onto Laan 1940-1945. Edit: Reitdiephaven too.
Ive got one love it but it tòk a long time to get used to riding it so top heavy
Agreed took a while!
I would love to be brave enough to buy one!
I test ride one and it's amazing to ride one!
How much did it cost new?
As much as a four passenger car (VW Polo), so it was a great concept , only overpriced. But if you think of it. I still ride mine after >20 years. So for me, as I bought it used, it was agreat bargain.
Hi
I have 2 , I live in Mexico city
Two? Well done! One to commute and one to play with?
Thats very powerful for a 125cc! Mine has only 8.1hp
Sure, but it was very heavy - they used a Rotax engine .- the company being most known for light airplane, snowmobile etc ie smaller engines with high performance. Worked great, but when the tractor - trailer next to you is passed at 100 Km/h you can feel the impact of the large vehicles aerodynamics impacting the top of the C1 making it potentially less stable if not countered correctly.
I've got one in uk and love it
Great! And do you have to wear the helmet?
I saw 3 or 4 of them in BKK Thailand >15 years ago
Just saw one three days ago in Leipzig, DE.
I want to know how much is that ?
Depending on a lot of factors between $1000-7000
Saw few in UK
A Scooter never is made for the Highway...... it´s for the City
I like them .
Yooo this is so cool, i think it would be much better if it had 2 front wheels but okay
It is possible to get one with 2 front wheels.
@@Negotea Nah that would be a Piaggio but you loose the roof
I’ve just refurbished one in Taiwan.
Wauw! Well done! Enjoy your ride!
Borrowed a 125 C1 in the UK for a 30 Mile journey.....it was slow and Noisy...had a high centre of Gravity..
The Rain came in through the sides ,luckily I had full Bike clothing on.
as the rider is way back from the front the steering was far too light
Vibration was bad
awful thing.
it makes a Honda C90 seem like a beautiful bike...which it is.
very like
It is the best way to move ever. It is the faster, safer, economic way to move into the country