Hi Michael, combined with your earlier video on setting out a "basic" hipped roof, this is the best explanation I've ever seen on how to do it. I'm looking forward to the hipped Mansard roof for the ballroom which would make a great Inkscape tutorial in itself. Great video (as always!) and thank you for posting.
Every time I scratchbuild something with a roof, I come back to this incredible video. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together. I truly cannot say it enough.
Considering that my math skills are such that I need to take off my shoes and socks to count past ten, I want to let you know how much I appreciate this tutorial, your tutorial videos in general and your ever more interesting, fascinating and downright wonderful layout!
I wish you had of been my maths teacher back in junior school rather than the ex-army-horror I had. My brain normally shuts down when anything 'mathy' comes up but that was easy to understand. TH-cam did me a solid recommending this channel. 10/10 much fun. Now, when are you getting a patreon? I'd be happy to chip in a couple of quid a month so you get to buy extra cereal packets 😄
Thank you very much indeed for your kind words!! :) I had considered Patreon or YT Channel Memberships, but I've always been put off by thinking that nobody would really want to pay to listen to me rabbit on about card buildings.... But maybe I was wrong...? --Michael
@@Chandwell You don't have to make a starting Patreon complicated. Sometimes, folks just want to chip something in because you're worth it, and not because they want more from you. I'd be happy contributing £1-2 a month in return for getting to watch new uploads before non-patreon viewers.
Hi! I have tried to do two things, and can't decide which one is better. I have turned on TH-cam channel memberships so there is now a "Join" button on my channel. This seems like a good idea, but YT takes quite a hefty cut. I've also set up a "Buy me a coffee" link, which may work better... buymeacoff.ee/chandwell What do you think? --Michael
Simple, practical applications can often remain ‘hidden’. Thank you so much for shedding light on this somewhat ‘non-obvious’, ‘hidden’ situation. Your demonstration was excellent! Thank you! Having been into pipefitting (in my career), using some trig to figure odd angle offsets, I, too, found it easier to teach apprentices how to figure and cut odd-angle elbows and measuring their ‘travel’ lengths without the aid of a calculator or even a tape measure - simply using straightedges and framing squares. Sometimes using some pretty ‘rudimentary’ tools and ‘rudimentary’ analysis can ‘explain things much easier than understanding the Pythagorean theorem!
Thank you. It is always a surprise when you find something that seemed really difficult turns out to be quite easy, just with a re-think of techniques.
Though your original video on the subject was brilliant, you've managed to outdo yourself. Your explanation is extremely clear, and I think that doing it on paper makes it less intimidating for some reason. Thank you for all the effort you put into your videos.
Thank you - that is really kind. I did think that the presence of the computer in the first video may still make this method seem more complicated than it really is, so I'm pleased that you picked up on that too. All the best! --Michael!
I think the assumption that complex maths is going to be required for such a part is a massive red herring. It's because it appears at first that several edges somehow need to be resized simultaneously relative to each other, whereas, as you demonstrate, the resizing can be done in stages. In a nutshell, if you make two edges the same length, they'll always fit! As far as I can find, you are the only person in 'crafting TH-cam' who is actually explaining processes like these building in card. There are some wonderful painting and scratchbuilding tips from people like Luke Towan and Everard Junction, but many crafting videos are little more than a timelapse of 'the make' with little technical insight.
I think you're right - they only SEEM scary because in reality, they are really easy once you see what's going on. Thank you very much indeed for your kind words. --Michael
I just modeled a very complicated roof based on an 1880's building design. I won't say it was "easy," but there's no way I'd have done it without this video and the results were perfect the first time! It had hips running into gables halfway up the wall causing the eaves of the main roof to flare out far from their normal run. Yet taking my time and following the steps in this video, I was pretty much dead on with my paper mockup. Now to test it in a card mockup!
This has really made my day! Thank you for taking the time to let me know. And thank you very much indeed for sending the pictures too! Would you mind me using one of them in a future video? Michael
Thank you for such clear and concise video tutorials they are some of the best I've seen on TH-cam, I've learnt a lot from this playlist. Best wishes Vic.
That is brilliant news Matt!! I discovered this week that the same technique works for octagonal domed roofs too, believe it or not! My tower's cupola went together on the first attempt! Michael
Hi Michael, I've just stumbled upon your tutorials and watched a few; on windows and hipped roofs. How you explained the simplicity of it all was brilliant. If teachers in schools used your methodology, when teaching pupils and students, the future would be far better. I will be watching more of your videos and I'm sure that I will be inspired by them to have the courage:- 'not to buy, but to make'. A sincere thank you. Rick the Bulldog.
Another easy way in Inscape is to project the joining edge using the base of the roof edge as the center point and the top point as the radius. Now project the top of the circle horizontally to the adjoining wall, draw a line vertically from the center of the wall intersecting the top horizontal line, that's your peak. Holy Moly! It's easier to do it, than explain it. Your use is great, and of course keeps giving me more ideas. I am now rethinking the whole roof line on my mirror warehouse. Should be interesting. Thanks Again Don Oops... Spoke too soon, using Draftsight, not Inkscape.
That sounds like I need to read it again, slowly! As ever with these things, there are probably a million different ways to come to the same end result, and I find that endlessly fascinating. Thank you for watching! --Michael
Hi Michael, now that really is a fantastic tutorial of this subject. Well explained and great practical show model too. Thanks for sharing..stay safe and well, Chris
You must have been looking over my shoulder Michael as I struggled with the hipped roof on my warehouse office, lol! Where were you two weeks ago! Excellent tutorial mate and one I will be referring to as I move forward with my scratch building. Cheers Michael, John
Sorry John. The secret's out. I've been secretly watching the development of Exehaven from my secret lair! When I first realised that hipped roofs were this easy I was flabbergasted and the options for interesting roofs just become endless! --Michael
That was brilliantly explained Michael. Even an old duffer like me understood, Thankyou. Now can you explain Inkscape that simply please LOL Regards Chris
Thank you Chris. Hmm. I may need more than a pen and a ruler to explain Inkscape! :) Is there anything specific you'd like to know, and I can do a special "step by step" episode one day.
I have some half-formed thoughts of a monstrous late 60's comprehensive school but it will be a while away yet. I have a LOT of space to fill with buildings, so I am sure I will slip some 70s architecture in there somewhere! :) --Michael.
If you were to make your roofs from a single piece of 2mm card then you would need to adjust the drawing to take into account the thickness of the card. I make my roofs from two layers of 0.5mm card and always cut the top layer about 1mm wider than the bottom.
Who was Pythagorus any way? Do we need him? In all seriousness a big loud THANK YOU Michael such an exquisite and gentle explanation. What are the kit manufacturers going to do when Bespoke modelling takes off after this video? Now I have to go back and rewatch all your previous videos - I think Mrs B may be a little pleased that she can watch her programmes while I watch mine!! Once again thank you take care. Peter
As a Professional Architect Draftsman I can say that I never understood anything about Pythagoras. Never used his math at all. The only math I use in basic + - X /.
I use two different methods depending on my mood. If I am making a roof as a kind of "hat" to drop onto the building, I will just make my drawings to the right dimensions to include the overhang, and then work it all out in the same was as shown in the video. If not, then I make the roof the right size to fit the walls, like I showed in this video, and then make the shapes from 0.5mm card. I then make the shapes again, but each one with about 1.5mm extra on the bottom edge. These then glue on top of the 0.5mm base layer and nicely overhang.
Brilliant as always. Thanks Michael. Roy.
Thanks Roy! --Michael
You are an excellent teacher, thank you
Thank you! 😃
Hi Michael, combined with your earlier video on setting out a "basic" hipped roof, this is the best explanation I've ever seen on how to do it. I'm looking forward to the hipped Mansard roof for the ballroom which would make a great Inkscape tutorial in itself. Great video (as always!) and thank you for posting.
Thank you so much Paul. I thought that this "computer free" episode would compliment the other episode quite nicely.
Excellent tutorial, thank you for sharing with us.
Glad you liked it! Thank you for watching and commenting --Michael
Simple! Thanks for an informative video 👍
Glad it was helpful! --Michael
Brilliantly explained...I can see this video being very useful👍
Andrew🙂
Glad it was helpful! --Michael
Very well explained, great video
Glad you liked it! --Michael
Great tutorial Michael, crystal clear explanation.
Glad you think so! Thank Vincent! :)
Chandwell - making education fun!
I'm thinking of applying for a job at Chandwell County Comprehensive school. --Michael
Every time I scratchbuild something with a roof, I come back to this incredible video. Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together. I truly cannot say it enough.
You're very welcome! It is wonderful to receive feedback from someone who found this content useful.
brilliant looking forward to your next Vid
Coming soon! --Michael
This is so clever, thank you 😊
You’re welcome 😊 --Michael
Oooh, I've been thinking of how to do this, your channel has turned out to be a wonderful well of knowledge!
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching! --Michael
Brilliant. Thx for this. I've been terrified of attempting a hipped roof. Feel I could do it now!
You can do it! I was surprised when I worked out how easy it actually was! Michael
Considering that my math skills are such that I need to take off my shoes and socks to count past ten, I want to let you know how much I appreciate this tutorial, your tutorial videos in general and your ever more interesting, fascinating and downright wonderful layout!
Oh wow! Thank you very much indeed! I hope that this proves useful for you! --Michael!
I wish you had of been my maths teacher back in junior school rather than the ex-army-horror I had. My brain normally shuts down when anything 'mathy' comes up but that was easy to understand. TH-cam did me a solid recommending this channel. 10/10 much fun.
Now, when are you getting a patreon? I'd be happy to chip in a couple of quid a month so you get to buy extra cereal packets 😄
Thank you very much indeed for your kind words!! :) I had considered Patreon or YT Channel Memberships, but I've always been put off by thinking that nobody would really want to pay to listen to me rabbit on about card buildings.... But maybe I was wrong...? --Michael
@@Chandwell You don't have to make a starting Patreon complicated. Sometimes, folks just want to chip something in because you're worth it, and not because they want more from you.
I'd be happy contributing £1-2 a month in return for getting to watch new uploads before non-patreon viewers.
Hi! I have tried to do two things, and can't decide which one is better. I have turned on TH-cam channel memberships so there is now a "Join" button on my channel. This seems like a good idea, but YT takes quite a hefty cut. I've also set up a "Buy me a coffee" link, which may work better... buymeacoff.ee/chandwell What do you think? --Michael
With "no maths" you have already got my undivided attention! ;-) Well done, Michael!
😁 --Michael!
Sehr schön, super nice 👍👍
Vielen Dank! --Michael
Simple, practical applications can often remain ‘hidden’. Thank you so much for shedding light on this somewhat ‘non-obvious’, ‘hidden’ situation. Your demonstration was excellent! Thank you! Having been into pipefitting (in my career), using some trig to figure odd angle offsets, I, too, found it easier to teach apprentices how to figure and cut odd-angle elbows and measuring their ‘travel’ lengths without the aid of a calculator or even a tape measure - simply using straightedges and framing squares. Sometimes using some pretty ‘rudimentary’ tools and ‘rudimentary’ analysis can ‘explain things much easier than understanding the Pythagorean theorem!
Thank you. It is always a surprise when you find something that seemed really difficult turns out to be quite easy, just with a re-think of techniques.
@@Chandwell I certainly couldn’t agree more!
Once again, thanks so much for helping us to ‘see the light’. Really appreciated!!
Very clever and so simple 👍👍👍
It was surprising when I first realised how it works!
Beautifully explained
Thank you so much 🙂
Though your original video on the subject was brilliant, you've managed to outdo yourself. Your explanation is extremely clear, and I think that doing it on paper makes it less intimidating for some reason.
Thank you for all the effort you put into your videos.
Thank you - that is really kind. I did think that the presence of the computer in the first video may still make this method seem more complicated than it really is, so I'm pleased that you picked up on that too. All the best! --Michael!
Brilliant explanation and demo, Michael, thanks for this!
My pleasure! --Michael!
Awesome info and demonstration. Thanks for sharing. Dave
Very welcome! --Michael
Thanks for sharing this technique 👍🏻👏🏻
My pleasure 😊
I think the assumption that complex maths is going to be required for such a part is a massive red herring. It's because it appears at first that several edges somehow need to be resized simultaneously relative to each other, whereas, as you demonstrate, the resizing can be done in stages. In a nutshell, if you make two edges the same length, they'll always fit!
As far as I can find, you are the only person in 'crafting TH-cam' who is actually explaining processes like these building in card. There are some wonderful painting and scratchbuilding tips from people like Luke Towan and Everard Junction, but many crafting videos are little more than a timelapse of 'the make' with little technical insight.
I think you're right - they only SEEM scary because in reality, they are really easy once you see what's going on. Thank you very much indeed for your kind words. --Michael
I just modeled a very complicated roof based on an 1880's building design. I won't say it was "easy," but there's no way I'd have done it without this video and the results were perfect the first time! It had hips running into gables halfway up the wall causing the eaves of the main roof to flare out far from their normal run. Yet taking my time and following the steps in this video, I was pretty much dead on with my paper mockup. Now to test it in a card mockup!
This has really made my day! Thank you for taking the time to let me know. And thank you very much indeed for sending the pictures too! Would you mind me using one of them in a future video? Michael
@@Chandwell Absolutely. Please do.
Thank you Michael - a very clear and easy to follow guide, taking all of the guesswork out of the exercise.
You're very welcome!
thank you Michael that good video on hi roofs as i still making the model houses
Good stuff Brian! :)
Hi Michael, brilliant explanation. Inspires me to try some scratch-building instead of the kits that are available.
Go for it! Good luck! --Michael.
Thank you for such clear and concise video tutorials they are some of the best I've seen on TH-cam, I've learnt a lot from this playlist. Best wishes Vic.
You're very welcome! Thank you for your kind feedback! Michael
I tried creating I hip roof using an all singing CAD package, couldn’t get my head around it. Now using your method in Inkscape, works a treat.
That is brilliant news Matt!! I discovered this week that the same technique works for octagonal domed roofs too, believe it or not! My tower's cupola went together on the first attempt! Michael
So simple Michael - very well explained.
Thank you Euan! :)
Hi Michael, I've just stumbled upon your tutorials and watched a few; on windows and hipped roofs. How you explained the simplicity of it all was brilliant. If teachers in schools used your methodology, when teaching pupils and students, the future would be far better. I will be watching more of your videos and I'm sure that I will be inspired by them to have the courage:- 'not to buy, but to make'. A sincere thank you. Rick the Bulldog.
Thank you Rick! I am pleased you found them helpful. Go an and give it a go - get something made! 🤔😀 Michael
Great explanation Michael! you have certainly took the mystery out of roofing and made it so simple! Kudos to you! All the best Tony.
Thank you very much Tony! --Michael
Another easy way in Inscape is to project the joining edge using the base of the roof edge as the center point and the top point as the radius. Now project the top of the circle horizontally to the adjoining wall, draw a line vertically from the center of the wall intersecting the top horizontal line, that's your peak. Holy Moly! It's easier to do it, than explain it. Your use is great, and of course keeps giving me more ideas.
I am now rethinking the whole roof line on my mirror warehouse. Should be interesting.
Thanks Again
Don
Oops... Spoke too soon, using Draftsight, not Inkscape.
That sounds like I need to read it again, slowly! As ever with these things, there are probably a million different ways to come to the same end result, and I find that endlessly fascinating. Thank you for watching! --Michael
Hi Michael, now that really is a fantastic tutorial of this subject. Well explained and great practical show model too. Thanks for sharing..stay safe and well, Chris
You're very welcome Chris! Thank you! :)
Super😀
Thank you! 😀
Wizard ! Thanks for the tip, I'll be sure to use it when I'm building the warehouses and other buildings for my future N scale harbour layout...
Thank you Eric! :)
You must have been looking over my shoulder Michael as I struggled with the hipped roof on my warehouse office, lol! Where were you two weeks ago!
Excellent tutorial mate and one I will be referring to as I move forward with my scratch building. Cheers Michael, John
Sorry John. The secret's out. I've been secretly watching the development of Exehaven from my secret lair! When I first realised that hipped roofs were this easy I was flabbergasted and the options for interesting roofs just become endless! --Michael
lol! Even with your fantastic tutorial, I do have a habit of making things much more difficult than they should be!🤔🙄😂
It wouldn't be fun if we didn't make things ten times harder on ourselves!
That was brilliantly explained Michael.
Even an old duffer like me understood, Thankyou.
Now can you explain Inkscape that simply please LOL
Regards Chris
Thank you Chris. Hmm. I may need more than a pen and a ruler to explain Inkscape! :) Is there anything specific you'd like to know, and I can do a special "step by step" episode one day.
Hey, Bognor. I recommend a channel called 'Logos by Nick'. I've learned so much about Inkscape from him and his lessons are fantastic and fun. 🤗
Will chandwell ever see any 60s 70s style buildings also thanks for another great video !
I have some half-formed thoughts of a monstrous late 60's comprehensive school but it will be a while away yet. I have a LOT of space to fill with buildings, so I am sure I will slip some 70s architecture in there somewhere! :) --Michael.
@@Chandwell That sounds great I really like the style of architecture from those decades also the school would look super ! thanks
I wish you’d been my maths and tech drawing teacher in the horrible 60’s style school building that you should build next!
I am thinking of sending in an application to Chandwell County Comprehensive... :)
That's really really helpful Michael but I'm left wondering if this will still work with thicker card ? 1mm ? 2mm ?
Loving your videos
Mick
If you were to make your roofs from a single piece of 2mm card then you would need to adjust the drawing to take into account the thickness of the card. I make my roofs from two layers of 0.5mm card and always cut the top layer about 1mm wider than the bottom.
That was fantastic.Talk about “it’s easy if you know how” many thanks, my cottages are going to be much nicer..
Glad it was helpful! Give it a go... it's really not hard at all! :)
Who was Pythagorus any way? Do we need him? In all seriousness a big loud THANK YOU Michael such an exquisite and gentle explanation. What are the kit manufacturers going to do when Bespoke modelling takes off after this video? Now I have to go back and rewatch all your previous videos - I think Mrs B may be a little pleased that she can watch her programmes while I watch mine!! Once again thank you take care. Peter
Thank you so much Peter! :)
As a Professional Architect Draftsman I can say that I never understood anything about Pythagoras. Never used his math at all. The only math I use in basic + - X /.
That’s awesome! I can barely even manage those four! 🤣
I’d love to understand how to do it “for real”. Do you have any useful links?
How do you figure the roof overhang?
I use two different methods depending on my mood. If I am making a roof as a kind of "hat" to drop onto the building, I will just make my drawings to the right dimensions to include the overhang, and then work it all out in the same was as shown in the video. If not, then I make the roof the right size to fit the walls, like I showed in this video, and then make the shapes from 0.5mm card. I then make the shapes again, but each one with about 1.5mm extra on the bottom edge. These then glue on top of the 0.5mm base layer and nicely overhang.
Many thanks.@@Chandwell
You ought to be a teacher!
I'd love to be a teacher if it wasn't for the students! :) --Michael
@@Chandwell I know how you feel!