Comparing The Triumph Speedmaster & Royal Enfield Shotgun At An English Village Pub Over Lunch
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In today's video, we explore the Rutland countryside on two wonderful motorcycles, British brands now made elsewhere in India and Taiwan. The Triumph Bonnville Speedmaster stealth edition and the Royal Enfield Shotgun 650. We tell you our thoughts on these two motorcycles and some general bike chit chat whilst enjoying a lovely pub lunch in the village of Lyddington.
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An idea for your Freddie Dobbs collaboration... Perhaps more of the same. Meet up with Freddie, filming your journey to him, then you all ride convoy to a lovely scenic location and have a chat about whatever is relevant at the time, over a nice meal.
Why? It doesn’t add anything to the content or video.
@@coldwetandhappy6879 which specific bit , please?
That was a fun lunch. I like how you described the Bonnie as a "Jag" and "Waft." That really helps me understand the essence of the bike, and why it's twice as much as the Royal Enfield.
I'm a Freddie Dobbs fan myself. It would be great to see both channels get together for a ride somewhere iconic. I think I might live on the wrong side of the pond.
IMHO your channel is going in just the right direction - thanks for bringing it to us.
I thoroughly love everything you guys put out. So lovely to see father and son sharing such a passion about all things bikes. I sadly lost my dad in 2018 but he always spoke passionately about his 1960s BSA 650 Goldstar. Enjoy every moment together guys, I appreciate all the work you put into making these great videos and so look forward to the Freddie meet up. Like others have said, maybe a ride out to another nice pub, delicious lunch and some bike story swapping. Big love from the West Midlands.
Thanks buddy. We really appreciate your support 👍🏼👍🏼
Completely agree on the shotgun, RE needs to stop with the crazy graphics. Maybe the Indian market thinks differently idk.
When the brand doesn't speak for itself, the more they speak about the brand
Freddie and this channel working together makes perfect sense.
The all-grey Shotgun is very nice and understanded. If the forthcoming Classic 650 isn't to my taste, the grey 650 is very tempting. Then again, I'll only be burbling along on it like my 350.
Wonderful to see you both together again. Glad the ol' man is better!
I absolutely love the Speedmaster! It was my first bike when I started out riding. I traded it for a Lowrider ST, and I’ve missed owning a Triumph ever since. I’ll definitely purchase another Triumph in the future
A bike is such a personal thing, when I bought my V7 I loved it but I couldn't get on with the bike with a pillion on. I now ride a Speedmaster and the bike is amazing both single and pillion. Others may not agree but its what suits you not the bloke next to you.
Looking forward to seeing you and Freddie together. Both of you are down to earth. Not experts putting us down for not being perfect as some more riding techniques videos seem to be. Also looking forward to seeing the Barcelona video. Keep up the good work.
The best motorbikes’ channel i’ve discovered in 2024. It’s a pleasure how you discuss the points of the motos in all your videos that i’ve seen.
Congratulations from Spain
Thank you 😊 pleased to hear you are enjoying the channel 👍🏼
Your best vlog ever so far! 😅. The interaction between you was brilliant. Top marks guys. Regards, Mo 😊👍
The three of you need to do a camping trip in rural France with inadequate camping gear and no fixed itinerary. It would be hilarious and very popular albeit a challenging experience for the participants. Get big views for sure.
Hi chaps. What I would love to see is you two, Freddie and maybe one other compare all the Royal enfield 650s together in one video. Now that would make a fantastic watch 😊
Shotgun in that white paint scheme looks so good. Only one thing I'd personally change are those black exhausts to Chrome.
Before you mentioned it I was thinking the speed master sounded particularly good.That pub is beautiful aswel👌🏻
Loved this video 👍 you 2 should do a video with 2 wheeled willie,think you 3 would be hilarious!
Thanks! We watch two wheeled Willie a lot 👍🏼
the old man reminds me of my grandmother....she'd wait to talk until she had her mouth stuffed full of food and then start a conversation. unfortunately, she has long since passed on.. thanks for the memories. 🙃
Really enjoy the banter and direction you are taking the channel will look forward to more vids
Yesterday, June 21, the temperature here in the Arizona mountains was 35 degrees C. Down in Phoenix it was over 40 degrees C earlier this week. I wouldn't mind a 13 degree day every now and then.
father and son ! love your together vids lads
I loved that video. A ride with a lunchtime chat. Brilliant. I prefer symmetry myself, which is one of the many reasons I love my T120. Split down the middle there's one cylinder and one pipe on rach side.
The only bike I would consider replacing my Bonnie with is the Speedmaster, although there are a few bikes I would like to have in addition to it.
For your Freddie collaboration he's a Harley fan so the three of you should do a Harley road trip around Norfolk visiting numerous cafes and eateries ,talking bikes, life and generally enjoying yourselves.
For the money the Royal Enfield seems to be a very practical bargain. You can take a magnet to it all around and it will stick to the fenders and everywhere. It's built with real quality materials, and they could have used plastic like many manufactures. This company is giving you quality and real value in my opinion. 6/22/24.
Great video guys, I like your style and the twin bike review/ride outs work really well! Your ahead of the game I would say 👍🏻🏍️
You guys can do a long tour together that covers different types of roads in multiple terrains. Camping in the mountains and more.
The Shotgun looks like 1200cc, the Speedmaster is 1200cc! Nothing to explain! 😂
When you turned up on the Shotgun I thought it was the opening credits for 'Biggles Rides Again'...
Good video. Enjoy the relaxed conversational style of two guys discussing bikes. Definitely more interesting to watch than listening to specs.
Thank you, pleased you enjoyed it 👍🏼
A great bike review with wonderful British culture, country side, pubs and traditions. Thanks for representing and helping preserve this wonderful reality in the face of associated challenges to this beautiful way of life. The Speedmaster is pretty awesome.
Open lids have there place, especially on a hot day stuck in traffic etc. I used to wear one on my Street Bob, but one day when slowing down for a large roundabout on a dual carriageway, a wasp hit my lid and got stuck in the lining grove where my sunglasses arms would go. I had to negotiate the roundabout and carry on while the sod keeping stinging me, until I could stop at a layby and rip my helmet off. Don`t know how many times he stung me but he went for it. Then having to put my lid back on a drive another thirty odd miles to get home. It was so painful. Little bastard...That was the last time I wore one.
Flippin brilliant video gents. More of these chats please. Superb watching 👍
I like those episodes where is storytelling. Some landscapes, some intersting places to visit. You could also give some maps where are you riding in the episode
I think a tour with Freddie to France, or up North to Scotland during this nice weather. Maybe a multi day trip with multiple bikes that you all swap between to give your personal perspectives on.
Had a lovely ride around the chater valley today! There was a time I favoured an open face helmet, but also had the fly in ear problem on more than one occasion, it's like a form of torture, occasioning a quick stop.
Off with the helmet to remove the offending beastie. Full face now for me. Oh and Darcy watch out for that Will Scrape, he is not a nice character. Good work again guys, keep em coming. Thanks.
What a brilliant video on two excellent bikes. I'm just getting into editing my own motorbike videos, a steep learning curve to say the least! I'm seriously considering a Royal Enfield Shotgun to sit alongside my 2021 Yamaha Tracer and 1990 CBR 600. Each time I watch a review on the Enfield it convinces me a little more. More building work in the garden to make room for another shed I think....
These latest Videos with you both are really great, fantastic Job!
You people are such a cool guys on boots
Great to see you out together sharing your passion for motorcycles. Hope to do the the same with my son one day👍
Great video, I rode there the other week , nice pub . With the helmets, the one Darcy has on is the best of both worlds , I have the Torc T1 in the retro cream with yellow and brown trim , looks great , fantastic quality 🏍️🏍️🏍️
I have to put my hand up and say I like the graphics on all of the Shotguns. They all look really different and special and cool. The yellow highlights look sweet. And I'm 65. Thank god they did it and I'm a bit over the hurrumphing old fart comments I've seen all over YT. They don't look "tacky"" and if you want the old school RE has those in spades as well. And get over the off centre stuff. Jeez. Also funky and cool. :)
Another great video, gents!
I love the lifestyle approach to your vids and it'd be great to see you two and Freddy Dobbs riding together to a pub to sit around and talk bikes.
After all, isn't that what most of us do?
Your approach is so accessible; its great hearing you chew the fat about bikes most of which I will never own or ride.
Then again, who knows...?
This is the first video I've seen of the Speedmaster that made me actually like the styling of that bike. Maybe it's the color or hearing how good it sounds, I dunno but now I want one!
July 16th needs to hurry,I'm eager to see that new Guerrilla 450
Welcome back Ol'Man, lovely to see you back. I was thinking you were fluent in Spanish and working on a tan.
I would love to ourchase a set of goggles like the ones you rode with today, they are awesome. Cheers!
Thank you it is great to be back 😊
The goggles are made by Halcyon 👍🏼
That Speedmaster looks crazy and it sounds amazing, indeed! Also those "only" 78Hp are plenty enough, as reference, my ex XVS1300 which wasn't a sport bike, but still quite zippy for a 72...ish HP cruiser!
Love the bikes and the pub. Great review, i would love to see more content like this.
any bike with a single seat is beautiful
What if there was a Freddie dobbs and MD + Old man road trip from the new forest to the Cornish coast, stopping off at godrevy light house and the little cafe that isn’t to far away for a traditional breakfast 👌
Re. Freddie - I’m with others here, you are all thoroughly interesting people, I’d like to hear you three talking together in a motorcycling setting.
My compliments, lovely video, beautiful bikes, and so nice and refreshing to see other people on the road behaving with care and respect. On the levantine roads, we don't get much notice, any car from behind has to cling to the back wheel, nobody ever gives right of way, and, more or less, everybody is trying to kill you. Crash or die, but no turn indicators will ever be used. And the heat. Summer started mid April, and it will be hot as hell, but more humid, until mid November. Day and night. I wish the British empire would come back, bringing the weather with them.
I agree with the colour options on the shotgun there to modern for the brand imo, although I understand that a brand can't stay in the past and must be creative etc.., the triumph is amazing my favourite model in there line up, but at 13k with the British weather are you getting the value for money as let's be honest it will probably be sat in the garage for a great deal of the year😢. Anyhoo love what you lads are doing channel wise, kee wafting ❤
Great Vlog , I agree with your comment on the Classic 650, if it looks just like the 350 it'll be excellent, it's what I'm waiting to see!
Cheers Mel 🍻
Another entertaining video …couldn’t have parked mine on gravel like you did.
Lol - typed my comment and then your bike nearly fell over 😂
Please make sure your camera is level …unless the pub does lean over to the right 😊
Love this ! You to together are just awesome 👍
Love the idea of comparing different types of bikes. I’m thinking of buying bike number 4, got a Victory Cross Roads and Yamaha FZ750 that I will never sell. Looking at a Royal Enfield GT or Harley Street Bob for around town commute. My other bike is a Victory Vegas which is in the USA, I ride it once a year for about 8 days, just about to go over to get out of the Australian winter.
I enjoyed this video with the back and forth between you. The nice thing about Freddie's videos is that he tells a story. It's 30% bike review but mostly a story, a ride along. You guys should make and adventure out of it and the bikes pros and cons will be apparent. If you want a direction for your channel, the old Top Gear is a perfect model. A story, adventure, using the cars but always having some fun with familiar characters and show segments. An example might be a challenge, like comparing two bikes on a ride to Morocco. Which one breaks down or uses the most fuel?
Great vid guys love the style . I have a Speedmaster 2023 and love it. Agree with comments on Speedo, would look better with the twin dials. I bought this bike after watching the old man’s and Freddie’s previous reviews on it. ( could also do with longer guard on front wheel) . Thanks for all you do. Keep em coming !
Great to hear, many thanks 😊
I agree about the graphics on the RE. The bike itself looks and sounds great, but those graphics are a little off. And of course the Triumph is a Triumph, not much to criticize. That two-tone paint looks good. Also, congrats on finishing the move to Rutland!
Freddie and the ol man both have an affinity for Spain and now you have an invite from Royal Enfield. Why don't the three of you show us what you love about riding in Spain?
I am glad you pair are sizable gentlemen as I am of similar proportions so when I see you on bikes I can judge what they would look like under me. I have to say you made todays bikes look pretty toyish. I kept thinking £13k for a toy? I don't think so.
I think with those standard exhausts they both sound like sewing machines and when the Harley arrived the difference was Stark.
Love your work.
You should go motorcycle camping with Freddie. Teach him how to light a fire (I'm sure he'd struggle) sit on a an old log or two...and Get on the beers and a few rums. I'd listen to that banter.
I have a feeling the new Royal Enfield bike will be the Guerilla 450/Hunter 450 whatever they end up calling it. It's basically a Hunter 350 type roadster with the new 450cc liquid cooled Sherpa engine (in the new Himalayan) in it. Supposedly there is a "Scrambler" variant and a standard variant, the former being probably a little more offroady. This release will be similar to the Triumph Speed 400 and 400X Scrambler bikes methinks.
Lovely day out and about on your iron horses 👍
Fabulous Vlog, keep up the good work, lads 👍
I recognised the pub straight away, I’ve only been in there twice but ridden past many times. If you haven’t already try the Uppingham to Harborough road B664 (which is part of the Rutland TT route), it’s spectacular riding down the hill from Uppingham to Stockerston and from the top of the hill as you ride down into Medbourne where there is another old pub.
Hi Chaps, great to see you together in the same video again. An idea for you and Freddie would be for each of you to ride your favourite/dream bikes on a road trip together for a couple of days and go east west so Norfolk to Wales with some iconic spots along the way . I could see Freddie on a Triumph or Harley, Darcy on a Guzzi and the Ol’ Man maybe a Harley too.
Nice vid. Interesting to see the comparison.
Having had a Speedmaster for a couple of years now I love it, but it has it's faults. I was hoping the Shotgun/Meteor 650 would address those and it would be just as good in other ways, but, for me, it's just not.
I think the Shotgun/Meteor 650s are excellent and great value, but the Speedmaster is a class above. More characterful and capable. Though you sure pay for that difference.
Much like the Triumph 400s vs RE 350s, given the differences in the bikes and the prices I don't think they really compete/compare (though certainly, like me, some will want to see for themselves).
For those wondering about my gripes with my beloved Speedmaster: Fuel range (small tank, big engine), suspension (short travel bottoming out) and need for a lot of clutch work (1200cc torque/power).
I wish they did a Speedmaster with the T100's engine, gearing and suspension. I think only that would get me off my Speedy.
Come to think of it... I might try a T100 sometime and see how I feel...
Definitely prefer this format, don’t change. Great video lads!
I'm a bit undecided about a super meteor or a speed master for my first bike. I'm enjoying what you are doing on the channel these days, thanks.
Totally agree on the cheap dial which I have on my Street Twin. If I’m paying all that more money to upgrade I don’t want to be staring at the same cheap dial. IMO they should put the T120 clocks on it.
Agreed, about reading the spec sheet 👍🏻
Nice direction for the channel, keep it real not too exclusive and have fun!
Nice video. Both of these bikes have the ‘Fun Factor’ for me, although I wouldn’t have compared them because of the engine size difference. I’m downsizing from my Goldwing soon, my T120 replaced an Africa Twin I owned, not sure what I will get to fill the second spot in my garage yet.
Sorry to hear your steak in France was not good, that being said we do not cook dogs 😂😂😂 a friend from the other side of the channel, keep doing what your doing👍👍👍🙏
@gastudiofr. You eat dogs RAW??!
😝😝
I really enjoy your work. Nice to see you working together. For me, you two make a sort of "motorcycle-humanism"...
Had a great ride out with Royal Enfield / Poole Moto - amazing selection of RE models
Loving your new relaxed joint content going forward with a big bolster of subscribers. I reckon as old man’s love for the classic 350, the reason I bought one to be honest, reckon new bike will be a larger capacity classic and in keeping with the style the new 450 engine ? Who knows looks forward to that. When are you going? All the best.
Love the direction! So many bike reviews focus on CC's. But a lot of us bikers are only about bikes. CC's are cool but the rider smiles for miles are more important.
Not sure though if this was a fair comparison though, but a fun video!
Glad you think so! No probably not a fair comparison but it’s always remarkable how well Royal Enfields do compared to bikes double their price!
@@MrDarcy-OlMan And you are right! For sure! Royal Enfield make Stella bikes for price and especially build quality!
I daily ride a Super Meteor. I know it wasn't your cup of tea but for me it works for me and bang for buck, bloody awesome on build quality! I will not do touring on this bike, this bike is not up for it for me for distance. (Despite marketing). However, every day commutes, and explore on the weekend, perfect!
However, Triumph quality is just so outstanding comparing! And worth the money!
I love my Super Meteor so much (converted to single seat , with solo seat finisher, Astral Black, Barend Mirrors) however I already know the T100 Bonneville is my perfect keeper next purchase! (Love the Stealth or would go black. )
The ShotGun... Love so much Bobber Looks!! Amazing But I felt Giant on it at 5'9. (Not that matters) Would still keep a Super Meteor for size. Just me ...
It’s about 15 degrees here sun but the frost this morning was -1 now specs only tell you a certain aspect about the bike and to be honest I gone and purchased it on that only to find out 3-4 months later it’s not really what I wanted. I feel like it can take a few months living with the bike and getting over the honeymoon period and then actually doing the things that you normally do. I been renting bikes for a few months, I swapped out bikes with friends and everything in between to discover that fact. I rode the Honda CRF 300 Rally and the standard L and came away with I like it never would have picked it.
I started with what I wanted first what I plan on doing and going and essentially did it backwards. I removed the bike specific criteria. A big difference.
I'd like to see the two of you and Freddie go on a awesome road trip, on some cool and badass bikes 😎
Maybe a Harley, Indian and Triumph?
If you could swap bike throughout to give your opinions.
Relaxed entertaining video.
I will try to get myself the opportunity to ride the shotgun before this season is over. I am not a fan of the paint option of the bike in the video. I probably would pick the drill green instead.
Looking forward to see what bike RE is going to present i Barcelona! 😊
I've not ridden the Shotgun but I think it looks great. The issue I have with it is that you can get a V7 for about £1k more
Nice bikes + nice pub + nice talk = very nice video
Love you two and Freddie! Cheers
Great video really enjoyed it ❤
Mr.Darcy is slowly morphing into Rob Halford. 😂 Keep up the great work! Looking forward to your first impressions of that new RE model next month.
Many thanks and pleased you enjoyed it 👍🏼
But you make up for it with that brown leather jacket! Love that jacket
Yeah fine, I agree with the view of the 650 graphics. The green and black I think are the best. The 650 shotgun I think really amazing for the price.
Freddie Dobbs is excellent. Love his explorations and real life reviews. Would love to see you guys team up for the occasional vid. An adventure of some sort with you guys and him would be great.
I'm looking for inspiration for my next bike. Something retro'ish and naked. Could be a Z900RS, could be a T120.... whatever it is has to be different and bigger than my interceptor (which i will be keeping)
I worked in marketing for a very long time and RE are very much making the same mistake that Austin Rover did in the late 1980's with the MG Metro. The car was selling well but in an attempt to widen its appeal to a younger driver, they changed the graphics and made 'pop art' of the MG logo. This weakened the integrity of the MG brand and arrogance with in Austin Rover's marketing department chose not to acknowledge this. The result was the axing of the MG Metro. RE are doing the same and effectively 'talking down' to potential buyers and making a joke of the brand image. They are doing much the same with the Hunter 350 too. The Shotgun is an amazing machine with a traditional classic air cooled engine and classic looks. By making 'cartoon art' of their badging they cheapen their name and their product. If instead they'd used old school RE Bullet badging, or similar you would have more instant respect for the bike you were looking at. I cannot believe that with all the resources and success that RE are enjoying that they are making such a fundamental mistake...
I agree
I get your points but the reason for the graphics is the upcoming bullet, classic 650.
If they give this bike retro looks, they will end up having 2 bikes that don't have much difference going on.
Thus they have gone with a sort of modern design & have advertised it as something which is a blank canvas for mods and changes.
Hello there, when you are in Barcelona don’t forget to get a butifarra pork sausage for lunch, which is a wonderful Catalan speciality (if you can avoid the coke and latte and get a nice wine with it, it will be better too). Enjoy the trip and thanks for the video
Brilliant.... What a double act you are, absolutely hilarious together. Well done so entertaining 👌👍😎
Thanks buddy 👍🏼
what an amazing looking pub, it blows me away how English pubs seem to have such low ceilings. I wonder if the lady on the reception has Parkinson's with her head shakes. Hope not of course. ok I'll watch the rest of the video now :)
Great to see both of you together again, and a Dobbs-ish direction of the channel sounds lovely. I have a quick question, which brand is the eggshell colored helmet at 13:09?
Thank you 😊
This is an XL Moto helmet, just click the link in the video description and search Stormer helmet 👍🏼
@@MrDarcy-OlMan awesome, thank you very much!
I'd like to see a video of you lot and FD take out a Triumph, Moto Guzzi and Harley bikes for a road trip trading bikes as you go and discussing the feel of the bikes
Regarding the Freddie Dobbs collab, I'd love to explore the perspective of 3 different generations of bikers on what it means to be a biker.
Especially with Monika's delicate and elegant editing it could turn out quite cinematic.
The ol' badass, the romantic nostalgic and the young gentleman.
I'm sure it'll come out quite cool
Like the loooks of the Speedmaster. That 1200 engine is wonderful in the SpeedTwin.
Nice neck of the woods there, chaps. Hope you’ve made the right move. And there are some cracking (and quiet roads, too) bike roads. Donkey’s years ago used to go fly fishing to Rutland water. Anyway, not overly keen on either but of the two I’d have the Enfield for sheer value. You must try the Guzzi Bobber, sometime, as a comparison.
I really love these videos. Keep them coming. The look of that Speedmaster, particularly the petrol tank, it's just wheeled gorgeousness.
About that funny tasting steak in France... could it not be horse meat? Did they say something like 'viande chevaline'?... was it not really tender? Well, never mind, great to see you back, riding together and showing around your beautiful country.
Cheers.
It tasted horrible and was hardly cooked so the plate was very bloody. Said it was steak 🤢
Your alls channel is my favorite on TH-cam, I believe your guys opinions and feel for the bikes is more in line with mine when looking at and riding bikes. The feel is more important than the numbers. I like motobobs channel too, it's just different style and take and different personality I guess?. Either way I watch both of your alls videos and enjoy hearing your alls takes on different bikes.