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The War Pigs cover I uploaded last week seemed to go over pretty well. The abridged story behind it, if you did not read the encyclopedic entry I wrote in the "about" section beneath the video was this -
I recently did a short notice gig where I learned 15 songs in just over a week. I knew a couple of songs. Some others, I was pretty familiar with from hearing them hundreds of times on the radio over the years. And the rest, I did not know at all and learned from scratch. While I was recording a couple of videos last weekend, someone suggested a War Pigs cover, so while I was set up, I decided to do a one-take cover as an example of how I might go about learning a song for a live situation. It was bit more improvisational and with much less attention to detail than I'd normally put into one of my covers. I did a couple of songs from the setlist in that same mindset and this was one of them.
I have no idea if the notes in the quick part are correct or not, I just filled up the space with 16th notes. I think they're in the neighborhood though. And, at the gig, I didn't screw up at the end of the song like I did here.
I just got a notification that this video will be blocked in the U.S. which is funny since Zep plagiarized a fair amount of their early material. I filed a dispute already but I'm not sure if the video will be viewable. I'll give it a shot.
What's up with that mutated first position fingering on the double-time where the pinky is left out? Does that have a name?
I lost most of the use of my pinky during hand to hand combat in Afghanistan.
@@TJH3113 Oh wow. Heres me wondering if it made that double-time passage easier to play because I lost my left pinky tip in a mining accident so I just stretch more. Your idea is worth me investigating. Thanks for the reply.
@@TJH3113 thank you for your service
@@TJH3113 and yet you still sound this good?
@@TJH3113 so I'm going to guess that you know that the Afghanistan invasion had nothing to do with 911.
I wonder if he realizes those heads behind him were mouthing along to the intro?
Great comment
😂
They are in better condition than Robert Plant these days
@@moomoo991 He's 75!
I can’t unsee that now.
JPJ is another bass god, and IMO the most talented musician in Zeppelin, at least from a technical perspective. The guy currently plays like 11 instruments proficiently or some such. I see lots of covers of this song here, maybe yours won't get blocked.
Helium Road He is a riff-master for sure
Helium Road I was never a big fan of the "jammy" guys but I don't deny that JPJ was one of the greats. I never cared for Zep myself though.
TJH3113 Perhaps one fairly underrated Zeppelin song you might give it a try is Carouselambra, which is mailny a JPJ song. Even though the line gets a bit improvisational at most parts of the song and it gets a bit difficult to hear the bass through the synth madness in the end, I think it's worth a listen. Anyway, keep up with the great covers. Cheers!
Xyyz
Helium Road as a bass player myself and a huge Zeppelin fan i do like John Paul Jones a lot but as far as the most talented one in the band i don't know about that cause i think John Bonham has mad skills on the drums.
That big run is just simply brilliant! Sound great!
Thanks a lot! It's not right though.
an excellent cover.You should try making a bass cover of The Lemon Song
Tom Teh Cat that would be awesome. Lemon Song has an excellent bass line
Might take a while
13 and 1/2 pages of bass ad lib. yeow!
Do not underestimate the power of Dexterity! Just flawless. It's always a treat to watch you play. Thanks!
Thank you very much.
you rock, for the first time I see cover for this song played by fingers with perfect timing and octave for H during the couplet
Thanks.
Best cover on here, period.
Learning this for one of my band's covers and you've basically just shown me I was playing the part beginning at 0:45 wrong this whole time - A mistake I'm not used to making but a big one nonetheless
Thanks man!
Thanks a lot. Read the fine print though, I put this in my "Learned For Live" playlist because I took some liberties with it.
Fucking rocked it Brother
Thanks a lot.
Once again Troy you've made the impossible possible in terms of helping other bass players learn this song. You are such an inspiration. Well done my friend.
For a moment, I could have sworn I saw smoke coming off that fretboard!
Excellent man!
haha.
Haven't heard you do this one before. Those major scale runs are tricker than they seem. You nailed them effortlessly. (Technically mixolydian).
I'm cheating on them, but it works. I explain it in the text beneath the video if you are interested.
@@TJH3113 AH, just noticing that. Well, if you were cheating, you fooled me!
Awesome! Great cover, I always love to see/hear great bass covers.
Thanks a lot.
Thank you sir for all your excellent videos!
Thanks.
One of the very few channels I hit the like button before I even watch the video.
Too kind. Thanks James.
This guy has one of the best toy collections I've ever seen.
Great job! Love the "trill" on the C at the end. I used to miss the correct ending (on rare occasion) myself when I played guitar! I have not mastered the plucking yet, I still need a pick. BTW Pagey is playing a C9 chord at the end.
Thank you! I had to look up the "trill" you mentioned... it's been so long that I'd forgotten about it. Cool!
@@TJH3113Great performance and tone! Always wanted to play, but no gift of dexterity. Keep it up, never stop. As an aside, did you even get any masks out of the Famous Monsters magazine of old days?
That bass fill is sick haha.
I came here from the Sour Girl cover and I am definitely subscribing. You're awesome... I use to sing this with my band many years ago when we played in the clubs and I never really paid attention to the bass line because I was too busy performing but you really made me appreciate it. Thanks again and keep posting!
This absolutely rocks!! You ROCK MAN!! Been keeping up with your covers since the first one and they just keep getting better and better!!
Matthew Campbell Thanks a lot. That was nice of you to say.
John Paul Jones is brilliant musician and bass player. Watching and hearing you play "Immigrant Song" spot on is in one word, frightening (yeah I tied it with your creatures).
Thanks a lot.
This is awesome-Immigrant's song with stand out bass. Great idea for a channel.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
Another killer bass cover! JPJ has always been one of my favorite bass players.
GuitarGuys7299 Thanks.
Please do more from JPJ, he is an amazing bass guitarist. Caroouselambra and In My Time of Dying have great bass tracks.
Carrouselambra's bass line is fucking insane... still haven't seen a single cover here on youtube...
Agreed! It would be great to see a cover of Carouselambra. Love that song and the bassline...would be nice to see what's actually going on.
Wow I had no idea that that songs bass was that involved. I love those bass runs throughout. I always loved the way John Paul Jones played. Great job once again my good man.
Thanks a lot David.
As a bass player who is relearning songs for auditions I have found your videos among the best. Great you are a Rush fan too. I wound up subscribing to your channel just to make things easier. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks a lot.
I had to pick up the bass and play along today... I had a hard time keeping up with the bridge today.. LOL. Don’t practice enough anymore.. Thanks for sharing and making me pick up my bass..... Have a wonderful night..!!
Yeah, it's super tough... and I'm pretty much hacking it. Thanks! You too.
That was an amazing run up the neck. 👍👍
Thanks 👍
@@TJH3113 But wrong.
best cover on TH-cam, best cover seen in years, sick, good job!
MrGleboPedo Thanks.
What a funky bass line.
It's so cool
It's a fantastic song and, with this bass, stayed amazing
Can we all not agree after all these years that the runs are A Ionian, B Mixolydian, then C Lydian (with the sharp 4)? And maybe that JPJ skips the 6 and 7 in the first chorus? Aaaand, the B mixolydian run ends on the A in the first chorus. he he he! For the love of bass!
I'm lookin for the "Translate" button.
The original goes over a myxolydian of each chord - A, B and C. But your fill patern was sucesseful and really on the neighborhood of the original line. Really great cover, dude.
Since it was learned for a gig, I went for ease of play over correctness of notes. Thanks.
@@TJH3113 There should be a category of cover for the stuff you come up with on the spot, not meticulously studied.
@@taunoctua245, the songs in this playlist, "Learned For Live", is, basically, just that.
Actually major (ionian) not mixolydian
@@TJH3113 I've done it both ways. You really can't hear the difference
There is always the one guy who didn't get it..... Great Job Troy!
Cheers.
Impeccable fret work,Awesome Job Mr Troy as we've come to expect
Thanks a lot.
That's tight. I'm glad it didn't get blocked.
Great work, Professor.
Oxnard Montalvo Thanks a lot.
You did a wonderful job. I hope the video doesn't get blocked. That is ironic, as they not only plagarized songs but didn't even give the original artists credit when they were caught.
Paul Shealy Thanks a lot. That's exactly what I was thinking about the plagiarizing thing.
When I need to know how the real bass part goes, I come to this guy's channel.
Aw, I'm flattered, but in this case I'm doing a few things my own way. You can read about it in the space beneath the video.
I close my eyes and heard JP Jones....! Nicely played! Thanks for playing a Zeppelin song!
I really like this version, sounds great!
Thanks!
Usually when I try to play Zep 16th note runs, I fail because my plucking hand is too slow (eg, chorus of Ramble On). For this one, both hands are too slow. Sigh. You are my favorite bassist to watch and learn from on TH-cam. I've learned several songs through you, though I haven't mastered a single one. I also find that most of your covers tend to be pretty complex! Anyway, thank you!
Try to work on building up speed, strength, and stamina by doing simple scales and patterns across all 4 strings. Try to get a consistent tone out of each plucking finger. It's a bit tedious and boring, but it will pay off in the end. I used to do that from the 5th fret, down because, if you can do it there, you'll certainly be able to do it higher up the neck. Also, when really quick parts come up, remember that, sometimes, playing hard is the enemy of playing fast. I will usually try to lighten my touch up a bit when a quick bit comes up. You'll get there!
WoW!!!!! What fingering and wicked tempo! Love it Troy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Marvine :-)
Thank you kindly Marvine!
Sir, you freaking amazing !!! Please don't take this wrong, but I would put you at a level with the absolute BEST of the Wrecking Crew !! You are a musical beast ! Keep up the great tunes !!!!
Wow, thanks!
Oh wow~ I think you're adding open strings in that bridge part~ i never thought of that~ i'm going to play this song live soon & I'll give it a try.
No, I believe I'm fretting everything.
You, my good sir, have just earned yourself a new subscriber.
Welcome and thanks!
Such a great cover! love this!
Thank you!
Totally nailed it, flawless. JPJ would be proud....
AWESOME COVER Troy,as always!!! And WOW,I became exhausted JUST from watching Your fingers dancing around on that fret-board!!! LOL. Anyway,sounded AWESOME and YES!!! As it's June and I'm STILL easily able to view this video here in the U.S. As for MUSIC-RIGHTS regarding doing a "COVER" of an artist's song on here,CAN'T we ALL Just get ALONG??? LOL.
thanks for your help,clarified the climb for me
Thanks, but, as I said in the space beneath the video, I'm playing the line this way, more for convenience than correctness.
This is a very accurate cover of Immigrant Song, I think. I wish I played it so well myself, I must meet extra time to practise, otherwise I will never get there. Congratulations.
Thank you, I'm glad you liked it. In the text area beneath the video I explain that I took a few liberties with this song in order to play it for a live situation I was doing so, it may not be as accurate as you may think. You are right though - time, practice, and repetition are the only way.
cover level .... perfect
Thumbs Up....As always, great job!
ROCKnROLL1406 Thanks.
Those fast arpeggio runs were always a mysterious force to this song that I could not figure out. How I wish Y.T. existed when i was young. I may have made it in a band.
+lastcall170 Like I said, this is more my interpretation of the part than a note for note rendition as I was learning it for a live situation and wasn't as concerned with accuracy as much as I was with execution.
Amazing chops and tone !!
Thanks.
Damn dude! Nice job! That was flawless.
+Chad Foreman Thanks.
+TJH3113 You're welcome!
Have You Seen The Bridge. You rocked this one.
Outstanding cover. Such a solid tone and sound.
8 people can't play and are jealous! GREAT job man. i will now nick your (and jpj's) lines so i can play along!
Up to 13 now, but the percentages are with me. Thanks.
Awesome job...I loved it....John Paul Jones would be proud.....
Thanks.
Ha! I though it stopped one measure earlier at the end too!!! :-)
Fantastic work as usual.
sonicfrogdotnet Thanks.
BRAVO! MITICO!! 6 UN GRANDE! YOU'RE GREAT!!! MYTHICAL!!!
Thank you, Renato!
It was my understanding that JPJ used a A major scale pattern for A, B, etc...thank you for posting these videos: you are f*ing great, and you have killer tone
It's actually Mixolydian (A mixo, B mixo, C mixo with the chromatic walk at the end)...JPJ actually wrote an article about it in a bass magazine. What's funny is that someone else must have notated it even in that magazine...as he worded it clearly, but the example in the magazine didn't match what he said in the article.
@@stephencoxbass This is correct! It's a straight run down the mixolydian. This dude is good, but he's playing this wrong.
Haha I was about to write "Oh so THAT'S how the fast part goes" until I read your liner notes :) I always thought it was a major scale- it's the right amount of notes, and without checking it I bet it probably is, BUT that part always taxes me that way, especially if the drummer starts too fast. What I got out of this "Learned For Live" video is different from what I would've gotten from one of your regular vids, is that nailing something manageable but altered live is better than playing the precise recorded line clumsily. I never know what I'll get out of watching you but it's always something.
Thanks for reading, I can't tell you how many people have corrected me on the "correct" way to play the part. I'm still not 100% sold that it's a major scale but it's definitely different from what I'm doing. When I did it live (and on the video) I found it helped to "jump the gun" a bit and stay ahead of the timing a hair. If the drummer rushes it, you (we) are doomed.
You make it look so easy. So thankful you post these Really helped me to learn this song.
Looks are deceiving. I still struggle with just about every song that I cover. My lack of animation may come across as "easy", but my struggle is internal. I am very glad to hear that you find some of the videos helpful. And a lovey bass it is.
Holy shit! I've never seen anyone play the fast part with only their fingers.
Thanks. I'm sure there are many who play much faster and suffer less fatigue than I do... haha.
For the love of god, make all of your videos available to watch on mobile devices.
I like listening to your covers more than the actual songs and I'd really like to have all of them on the go.
You keep on slappin' dat bass, sir!
Daniel Kruissen It's actually the "content holders" that decide whether the video can be displayed on mobile devices or not. Thanks.
beautiful bass playing
Thank you very much.
You're the real deal. Maybe when I grow up, I can be almost as good as you! Wait a minute....I'm 56 damnit!
Meh... I try. I've got two years on you.
Awesome! Thank you for doing these videos.
Thanks. My pleasure.
awesome! fantastic playing!
+Oleg Timoshkov Thanks.
+TJH3113 you are welcome! keep it up!
Love it Troy! 👍
Thank you!
JPJ made a great song even better with great thumping of the strings where others would just continue to hit the E and A strings.
Bro, everytime i think you showed it all. You got more in the tank
Haha... thanks a lot!
Nice job and great tone!
Groove Flicks Thanks.
wow... first of all thats a beautiful bass, love to have one like that.. i have tryed this song Lol ! that walk up and down tied my fingers in a pretty bow 😂 you are truely the best to me....
Thanks. I thought you did have a Jazz bass? In order to keep from tripping over my fingers, I try to play that part a touch more lightly than I normally would.
TJH3113 ... i sat last night for about two hours working on this,, the walk up and down are tough.. the first part of the song is falling into place but geting the timing right is the devil lol ! so i said this one whooped me,, but you know me i just cant give up .. ill try and lighten up on the touch, thanks
My goodness I'll have a hard time with the sections at the 45 and 131. I know what you're doing. I'll just be starting out real slow, Haha. Thanks Troy, I'll get it
Yeah, I hear you. As I wrote, I'm not playing it exactly as he is playing it. I'm playing it is a way that I would for a live situation, where note accuracy is not necessarily as important. Take is slow... and, as you build up speed, don't ding in too hard and tense up. If you do - it's all over.
@@TJH3113 Well I got close to it last night at rehearsal. Blew guitar player away who is top notch, haha. Cool bass riff
Good job on a not very easy song to play. The 16th note walk up notes include the 3rd and 6th position, and the 1st one is a maj 7th, and the subsequent 2 are minor 7th. Cheers! Keep up the great video series.
Thank you very much!
Everything that is great is simple! Brilliant!
another quality demo, playing all those notes in the timeframe is the tricky bit... : P
Thanks.
That’s insanely quick
For me it is.
best wishes from Türkiye.you are amazing.
I wish you and your country peace and stability in the new year. Thank you.
Excellent playing.
Many thanks!
Sounds like you got it right on the fast part. Who knows exactly what he was doing but the essence of it is there. I haven't got the speed in that part of the neck.
That’s Troys version.
The John Paul Jones version is harder to play. But if you can Master it.
You’ve accomplished something good.
Not to impugn upon your honor Troy!
Still good stuff! Rock On!
It's all good, Steve. As I explained, this is how I learned it to play in a live situation where I felt it was more critical for me to stay in good time with the rest of the band than to be note-perfect.
I want that bass💓 it's beautiful
I Love It. Congratulations Sir!
Thanks.
Great job Troy! Awesome job..
Joe Tritschler Thanks.
What a beast of song! Great job Troy!
GF Rush Thanks.
Congratulatios man.tank you!
Thank you too!
The run is not the way John Paul Jones played it. It’s definitely tough or harder to play it the way John Paul Jones played it. But if you can’t play it JPJ plays it. play it the way Troy plays it. Its easier and accomplishes the mission.
Thanks for the input, Steve.
Nice to meet you at the Playhouse last night. Rock on!
Same here Paul and thank you for your help. Hope to see you again sometime! Hey, do you have any info on what went on in the balcony? My wife and I were trying to figure out how a fight could possibly break out at a Crash Test Dummies show.
@@TJH3113 no! First I've heard about it. I didn't stay for the whole show so I must have missed something. There were a few who had obviously over indulged
@@paulfredricks1066, Yeah, big ruckus upstairs. Ellen, from the band, said that 4 people were arrested???
@@TJH3113 I bet I know which ones they were.
@@paulfredricks1066, unbelievable.
Very nice!!
Man you are good! I play the bass also. I wish I had your dexterity on the fret board! Not an easy song to play on bass.
Aw, thanks so much!
Wow amazing 😮👏
Thank you! Cheers!
Great cover man!
Kreaper Slayer Thanks.
I love your videos! I had to learn a set full of songs in a day and a half and performed at my local. Couldn't have done it without good videos like yours! I watch your War Pigs before every gig, brilliant job on that because you help break it into smaller "chunks" as opposed to one big bass solo lol. Now just find a way to get the guitar player fans you have to stop telling you to play Mixolydian
I suggest the watch 8 little notes by Sesame Street lol. You can't play a mixolydian from the Dorian or Phrygian chord. Shut up and learn to play bass you six string freaks! Cheers!
Awesome!
I look really dumb with my jaw hanging open right now.
Great execution on the chorus. That riff is tough to get the feel right without sacrificing precision.
Thanks. Yes, I agree, it's a very tough part which is why I chose to sacrifice a wrong note or two in exchange for ease of play.
@@TJH3113 It's a bitch. I tried it your way, but strangely find the orginal easier. Maybe because I have smaller hands.
So I absolutely love that you chose the exact same notes I did for the chorus fills. I thought I might be cheating, but seeing you do it makes me feel so much better. It’s so fast, as long as the timing is right it’s all good!!
Troy - did you see the news about Geddy playing Roundabout with Yes at their RNR Hall of Fame induction? Christmas & Birthday all rolled into one for you right there 😀
Yes, I did, then I saw that Billboard did a semi-retraction of their statement. We'll have to wait and see.