Sega Master System FM Sound comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- Comparison between original PSG sound and the FM sound provided by Tim Worthington's addon board. Captured from real hardware.
etim.net.au/sms...
Captured from a PAL FRENCH M4 SEGA MASTER SYSTEM (60hz)
Although the psg music tunes have their own charm and relate to my childhood memories, the fm tunes are so much better..
Dimitrios Zikos *I know left*
psg sound effects sound much better while FM music is superior.
Agreed! Afterburner was a great example. With the FM mod the guns and planes sounded like scratchy screeching poo! Kinda hurt my ears! But the music was much better! Think I'll keep my master system original!
I'm no electronic engineer but could they not have found a way to utilize both chips considering it was an ad on anyway?
@@f.k.b.16 You can use both on a Japanese Master System branded console that has the FM built in. The same seems to go for any non-Japanese Master System modded to do FM sound, but since that wasn't official (and is recent) it doesn't really count. The original Japanese Mark III branded consoles with the add-on, unfortunately, could only do one or the other at the same time. I'm not sure what the technical reason is, or if it would have been easy to make it capable of using both. But, in short, since ONLY Japanese Master Systems could do it, no software was made with it in mind, it looks like.
I like how the default drums on the YM chip sound like someone banging on PVC pipes of various sizes and lengths
FM sound provides a great advance on console.. Thanks for sharing.
I had no idea that a bunch of the games I own supported FM sound, until seeing this video :O
I'm a huge fan of Sega's PSG sound.
You're not alone!
@@tommyb.6064 thanks! Yah, I love it!
If that is what you were brought up with you wouldn't have known any better but it's clear as day apart from the odd game the quality is terrible over FM
@@ScotsmanGamer The sound quality is terrible compared to FM, but a lot of the FM compositions are terrible. It's a mixed bag across the board IMO.
@@michaeloffgridI'm a huge fan of any chip that's not PSG, that one particular chip is like scratching a chalkboard to my ears.
double dragon sounds nice in fm but that slide after the first verse of magical sound shower in out run is one of the worst sounds generated by a computer I've ever heard.
When I tried flicking between the two sound modes on a MegaSG I honestly thought the cart was broken with all the screeching.
Lorfarius *it was the wave sounds of the ocean! LOL*
I miss the 80s
The FM sound always reminded me of Pac Mania’s soundtrack
It’s weird... To me, the default instruments for the fm sound chip they provided l sound better, or at least more realistic, than a lot of the instruments used in Genesis games. They almost sound like snes samples. Am I the only one who thinks this?
The Genesis could sound more realistic if the sound programmer knew what he was doing. But I admit these default FM instruments for the Master System are better than some low quality patches used in Genesis games, this is true.
If they could of blended the sounds both in equal parts.
Would be awesome.
Great idea! Gonna try that.
That's what basically happened with the Mega Drive chipset, with its access to Z80, Yamaha FM, PSG/PCM.
@@griffgames9538 lol oh yeah i totally forgot thanks
*Wonderboy III and Phantasy Star*
In the description you say you have a PAL master system at 60hz? Is yours special or am I being stupid?
technically, when you switch a pal system into 60hz, if you want to use COMPOSITE, only composite, you NEED dual oscillators, since they allow the crystals to be on the exact clock speed of both PAL and NTSC, if you do not use a dual oscillator, you get no color with composite , only black and white(luma info, chroma can not be deducted due to the lack of a color subcarieer, so you may use rgb to fix that but if you consider speedrunning, you must use dual oscillators because otherwise, your game is not on par with the other runners' game speed. like i guess its a really small difference in the clock speed that causes that issue, thats why i'd call it PAL 60 but not quite, since PAL 60 uses PAL color subcarieer but runs at 60hz.
The FM sound is similar to an 8 bit Soundblaster card.
They both are fm sound chips yamaha synth chip
NES fanboy: NES sound chip has just 1 more miserable channel than SMS PSG sound chip but it's super duper mega blaster superior.
Jap SMS FM built-in/Mark-III with FM Soud Unit: HOLD MY BEER.
FC cartridges with various built-in audio expansion chips:
That after burner gameplay made me dizzy lol
FM sound 100%
California games is hilarious. You can’t tell the psg is Louie Louie at all
Music was the only thing wrong with the Master System in west. It should have had this chip standard, as most of the Master System (not Mark 3) had in Japan (heck some European units had it but they are really rare). I know.. cost cuts. Outside of that the Master System was a really great piece of hardware.
THE 'AFTER BURNER'(FM) MEANS SO LOUD!!
Great video! Thanks 😊
While, of course, the PSG sound has a nostalgic quality to it, it makes me feel kinda sick after a short period of time.
PSG is the best for me!
lol no
Is the harshness of the FM sound effects down to the emulation? I know that some Genesis / Mega Drive emulators suffer from this.
Yeah, the music sounds good, but the sound effects are brutal. Afterburner sounded especially bad.
And Streets of Rage of Master System, has diferences ?
PSG sounds a lot better to me the sound effects on the FM music always sound a lot like Fart.
On Double Dragon you can hear it clearly the sound effects are a lot punchier on the PSG and much more farty sounding on the FM module.
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Also the instruments used in the FM versions of music sound weak
The FM is amazing
Superbe la vidéo,vivement le tuto !!
Intéressant.. Le changement est radical. Pour les bandes musical cela donne un super son pour une MS mais concernant les bruitages, explosions, coups etc il y a une forte saturation qui dérange vraiment.
+djscarfaceone sûr que sur Power Strike, le son PSG est peut-être moins agressif :P
BGM in FM is awesome, but my God whattaf*ck happens to the SFX?! Makes my ears bleed!
Wow FM sound look like a 16-bit music XD
It’s not “16 bit music” vs “8 bit music”, it’s FM vs PSG. the Neo Geo Pocket Color (for example) is the other way round with a 16 bit CPU but only PSG sound.
retro music isn't "measured" with bits
it's the way of synthesis we are comparing
c'est choquant !!!!
YM2413 represent.
Dis, tu capture avec quoi comme matos ? :)
(je préfère le son PSG pour Outrun :s )
+Arunotaku TV pour cette vidéo, adaptateur RVB modifié, GBS 8200 avec RGB mod, un X600 puis l'Elgato HD60. Pour Outrun je préfère le FM :)
+Arunotaku TV Pour Outrun c'est mieux le FM je trouve
Oki, je penses que c'est mon coté nostalgique qui parle alors, ça sonne plus oldschool en PSG :) (je trouves)
Arunotaku TV de toute façon, les jeux ont été codés comme ça, le son FM est celui qu'on aurait du avoir si on avait eu un équivalent à la hauteur de la SMS jap
+brunocore2 En effet :D
How did I get here?
my childhood is PSG,so PSG for life
Gosto do FM pra músicas, mas os efeitos sonoros não eram tão bons. Prefiro os efeitos sonoros PSG.
Profites bien.
Une nette amélioration pour les oreilles. Si cela pouvait être adapté pour la game gear vu que les hardwares sont similaires avec un lcd moderne, cela serait sympa.
Sauf que la game gear de base n'a pas de puce fm, du coup les jeux ne contiennent pas de musique pour la puce fm vu qu'elle n'en a pas. Voilà pourquoi même avec une puce fm sur la game gear, ça ne change rien
Kenseiden is the best game of Sega Master System
love it
That game is so underrated!
allez un chti pouce vert, tu aimes ça avoueee ;)
PSG sound forever !!!
you're the mvp
Never a fan of this FM sound. It sounds like a crappy generic computer. Genesis sounds so much better and the PSG has charm.
Je vais dire un truc que je crois avoir déjà vu dans les commentaires mais autant ça fait du bien pour la musique, autant les bruitages sont justes horrible pour moi. Bizarre cette différence nette entre les 2, une explication ?
+Doku Wil'Faël autant au casque, j'admets que ça casse un peu les oreilles, mais en vrai sur la TV ça me choque pas plus que ça
Out Rune PSG blow FM lol
Perso je trouve que ça dénature trop les jeux.
c'est le jour et la nuit
Muito melhor com o FM
Je comprends vraiment pas pourquoi ils ont pas mis ca dans toutes les consoles. La master system aurait encore bien mieux marché. C'est se tirer une balle dans le pied.
limite sa donne encore plus d’intérêt a jouer aux jeux ms
Sa rend vraiment la SMS megadrivisé quoi que, c'est quand même moins aigu/électrique que celle ci.
People do this mod on purpose? FM sounds awful.