I was biting my nails, the whole time to see if this thing could run Saturn games. Such suspense, such drama. Thanks for the video. This is a superb device!
There are only a few answers then: 1. They forgot the Saturn bios. 2. They assumed that it wouldn’t work, so they ignored it. 3. It was a technical issue before launch. 4. It was a legal matter.
I look at it more like a sega nomad, not a saturn thing. Mine came with saturn games though and it is a hit or miss, vf megamic runs horrible but panzer dragoon and sega rally run ok. I love this device hopefully it will be updated with a stronger processor to run all 32 bit without compromise
@@TroutButterExcept it can't play Saturn very well. RGT's video here isn't by any measure intentionally deceptive, but it's not painting an accurate picture of Saturn emulation here. I have this device, and it's great, but no one should buy this thing thinking it's going to emulate the Saturn library without errors at fullspeed. There simply isn't enough power.
By the way, this video really needs a PART 2 as there is apparently custom firmware now available (although it's not clear if it's available only for the android version only or also for the linux version). Anyone knows?
What's the SD card size? I know up the price when getting more memory, so many the pre loaded Saturn games are included with the most expensive version.
I thought Saturn didn’t play well on this. I will say I don’t have a nostalgia for the Saturn but there were a mitfull of games I’ve always wanted to play. Fighting Vipers, Fighters Megamix, Sonic Xtreme (prototypes and fan recreations anyways) so I was disappointed that it couldn’t do it well… but here it is! I went from wanting one, to disappointed, to now really wanting one
It 100% depends on your definition of "Runs well". It will run, some games, in the yabasanshiro emulator, but absolutely DO NOT expect to run accurate emulation via beetle_saturn. What that means in plain terms is that some games won't work, some games will be great, some will have minor graphical errors, and some will be broken af. These reviewers aren't going in-depth enough in this regard, some say it sucks, some say it's great, but it entirely depends on what they are playing and HOW they are emulating it.
Hey-Anyone knows if the cheaper Anbernic RG Arc "S " Linnux version has the custom firmware working on it or is it only the more expensive D version that has custom firmware working?
Seen a few videos on this device, it would be good to get more information on saturn games which do not run well on this device, if it could play all of them without compromising gameplay that would make it 100% worth the money.
Whats it like running the other emulaters aswell tho?? Does it play ps1 good because i would expect it to if it can play saturn. What about psp and N64?? Any good at running them aswell?? Its a great budget handheld if it can run them consoles aswell.
Seeing you wear that KISS tee lets me know that you're staying up to date as I am about their last show AND their new era. haha. Now I shall begin this video.
The other review I watched only had 4 Saturn games installed so I doubt it's perfect. I'm looking for cheaper emulator to play those 2 games (they're super expensive on saturn). Haven't had much luck.
Temper your expectations. His first impression of saturn is good but this thing isn't powerful enough to run the emulators that are compatible with all the games on Saturn and/or run them without graphical errors.
This device does play the Saturn games really well. Maybe not all but most of the good games work great on it on native resoluion. Yes it woult be beter if it had the Tiger 618 chip but still it runs most game flawless.@@retropulse03
the D has dual boot option for operating system, you can load up either Android OS or Linux at boot. also the D has 2gb of ram, but that's probably overkill. @@mjcook3922
I woulf love it if you could do a video using a pc that can emulate up to Xbox, Wii and PS2 to hook it up with a CRT TV to have the ultimate retro experience
You're the first youtuber to say Saturn runs well, this is very important to me because it's going to determine whether I buy the thing or not. I only care about playing SEGA games on it anyways, so I was already on the fence if it could run mega drive fine, which it does, but now Saturn too? I'm sold. Does it run Astal well?
Hey, don't forget to pick up your Physical Cartridge of Sam's Journey for the Famicom or NES now that it's out finally. Now just waiting on Orange Island and Piopow to come out.
That does look awesome even though you had to do all that back end side loading crap. I bought a very simple retro hand held before and all it had was a lawn mower game. All I had to do is what you did was to throw them all on myself.
I just ordered mine after watching several reviews. I tried convincing myself not to buy it, but this video finally convinced me just because I know rgt 85 doesn't give a s##t, and is honest. I am a fighting game fanatic, and always wanted to try some sega Saturn games. Thanx rgt.
It's not a great Saturn option, he doesn't go deep enough here. It will run some games under YabaSanshiro with frameskipping. It can't run beetle_saturn.
Bookmarked the page. Can’t buy on now due to medical bills from herniated disc and degenerative disc disease on my lower back😢. Awesome video too Mr. RGT85 not a Nintendo Switch TH-camr.😂just kidding about that. Seriously love that you are honest about everything you try.
Save your money if your interest is Saturn. RGT means well here, but he's not diving deep enough. It's not playing Saturn as well as he is led to believe. Some games will run well with an inaccurate emulator like he played here, but I would watch more reviews about the device before pulling the trigger. For my money (and I did buy one) It's not powerful enough to run the Saturn library at fullspeed without errors.
@@sir_hammy Think of emulation like translation. You're taking the language of one machine, and putting it into another. Because of this the end result can be very different. So if you compare something like YabaSanshiro2 to something like Beetle_Saturn you can start to see some of those differences. My favorite example is YabaSanshiro can't handle some of the ground textures in Sonic R. When you jump, you will see the textures float around. Another example is PowerSlave, there are holes in the rendering of walls, things don't line up correctly. It takes a lot of power to emulate Saturn correctly, it's a complex system, and while YabaSanshiro 'works' it isn't an accurate representation of the the Saturn software. You see this kind of thing with almost any emulator really, Sege Genesis sound reproduction was a big thing for long time, for example. There's also still a lot going on with N64. Most folks are using Glide64 RDP (Which, is pretty awesome in what it can do) but ParaLLEl accurately reproduces the VI filter that the system had - which drastically changes the look of each game.
I loved my Sega Saturn! 🪐 If only Sega of Japan didn't undercut Sega of America things would be different today. Sega Dreamcast was perfect 🤩 Sega finally made the best gaming console ever but with the 32X in America & Saturn in Japan just made gamers mad. Paid for a 32X then told Saturn will be here in 4months! 😮 Damn u Sega of Japan!
Never owned any sega consoles until the dreamcast. I think im a pretty unbiased gamer and always considered the snes controller and xbox one and series x controllers as my favorite most comfortable designs. Again, thats a personal opinion. However, i just got into the saturn for the first time in my 32 years on this planet and the saturn controller officially takes my top spot. I legit want to play EVERYTHING 32 bit and earlier with this game pad. So good.
without at least one analog stick and analog triggers, a good portion of saturn games are going to be kneecapped, they need to make a revision with those features, some slightly better hardware for better dreamcast emulation, and obviously saturn support out of the box; then it'll be a good product, but until then I won't be spending any money on this.
I got the one without roms on the card as I had a card for the tf2 slot ready with my own games when it arrived so I didn't have that issue. I was shocked at how well saturn games play on this thing, so far some choppyness with one of the marvel vs fighting games but only the one. The ARC D now has my Sega games in that tf2 slot and I have my Nintendo games on my snes controller looking RG353P so I can decide when I wake up whether I feel like a Sega kid or nintendo kid that day and grab the appropriate device.
Because someone boots up a rom that happens to run decent in YabaSanshiro and calls it "perfect" saturn emulation, and everyone just parrots it without learning.
... This is weird because it doesn't run Saturn anywhere near what I would call "well". Like, in a sense of that it won't run games on the accurate emulator. It will run a good amount, passingly, using YabaSanshiro 2, so as long as you are playing a game that isn't riddled with graphical errors in that emulator (Like Sonic R, or PowerSlave for example) You could have a good saturn time with it. I think this starts highlighting a big difference between "Good enough" emulation and "Accurate" emulation I think "good enough" is well... good enough for most people. I just wouldn't get this if anyone is looking for accurate saturn emulation, 'cause this thing doesn't have the power to run something like beetle_saturn unfortunately.
Might have to get one of these. Bought a Retroid Pocket 2+ a few years ago and it works great for Mega Drive, SNES, Dreamcast, PSP etc but Saturn runs like crap on it. Think I’ll keep that for everything else and this exclusively for Saturn.
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I had the same experience. Every Saturn game I've played so far runs good to great at native resolution.
I loved my Saturn more than my ps1. Probably my favorite controller ever made also.
Yeah it's the best controller especially for fighting games
Same here. Especially for the fighting games. I still have all of mine.
@@tykimikk8048Hmmm, I think the Neo Geo pad gives it a run for it's money honestly
This just made my Xmas list hands down 😮
Romancing compact discs is definitely one of my favorite pastimes
Boy am I old and IM RGT's age born in 87 never grew up with vinyl but romance it
FINALLY a handheld that play Saturn and genesis as intended… WITH 6 FACE BOTTONS
Saturn, Genesis, Master System and GG 👍
and the Sega d-pad!
Mine was shipped last week. Picked up the Japanese colored variant. Being duel boot is awesome.
Usually with thesedevices first thing you should do, get a better quality SD, load it with your own roms, also install a CFW if available.
I just ordered one from Amazon yesterday. It will be here in a few days. I believe it came with just under 5000 games.
I was biting my nails, the whole time to see if this thing could run Saturn games. Such suspense, such drama. Thanks for the video. This is a superb device!
Thank you for answering the most important question about this device!
I own the black one. Reminds me of a lighter weight Sega nomad! I totally dig this system!
There are only a few answers then: 1. They forgot the Saturn bios. 2. They assumed that it wouldn’t work, so they ignored it. 3. It was a technical issue before launch. 4. It was a legal matter.
Are you ok? Looking really rough pal ❤
This is a must for any Genesis, Megan Drive, or Saturn fans.
I like this one thanks for the heads up
I look at it more like a sega nomad, not a saturn thing.
Mine came with saturn games though and it is a hit or miss, vf megamic runs horrible but panzer dragoon and sega rally run ok.
I love this device hopefully it will be updated with a stronger processor to run all 32 bit without compromise
It was never billed as a Saturn emulator device.
Despite it looking exactly like a Saturn controller? Come on now. It's called saying it without saying it.
@@TroutButterExcept it can't play Saturn very well. RGT's video here isn't by any measure intentionally deceptive, but it's not painting an accurate picture of Saturn emulation here. I have this device, and it's great, but no one should buy this thing thinking it's going to emulate the Saturn library without errors at fullspeed. There simply isn't enough power.
and this is where I say, "Then what's the point?"
@@TroutButter A Ford car can "look" like a Chevrolet car, does that make it a Chevrolet car?
@@retropulse03you need at least 3Ghz cpu for that, what do you expect at 100$ product?
By the way, this video really needs a PART 2 as there is apparently custom firmware now available (although it's not clear if it's available only for the android version only or also for the linux version). Anyone knows?
I agree. Please do a part 2.
Does this run Saturn expansion cart games well?
Like X-men vs Street Fighter?
I just really, really need and have needed for years is Enemy Zero
“The sega Saturn handheld is awesome but...” it’s sega Saturn?
tru dat💀
🤔 Saturn is a fantastic console
😂 Harsh but fair.
But the Saturn is actually good tho'
What's the SD card size? I know up the price when getting more memory, so many the pre loaded Saturn games are included with the most expensive version.
Looks amazing
I thought Saturn didn’t play well on this. I will say I don’t have a nostalgia for the Saturn but there were a mitfull of games I’ve always wanted to play. Fighting Vipers, Fighters Megamix, Sonic Xtreme (prototypes and fan recreations anyways) so I was disappointed that it couldn’t do it well… but here it is! I went from wanting one, to disappointed, to now really wanting one
It 100% depends on your definition of "Runs well".
It will run, some games, in the yabasanshiro emulator, but absolutely DO NOT expect to run accurate emulation via beetle_saturn.
What that means in plain terms is that some games won't work, some games will be great, some will have minor graphical errors, and some will be broken af. These reviewers aren't going in-depth enough in this regard, some say it sucks, some say it's great, but it entirely depends on what they are playing and HOW they are emulating it.
I got to know what settings you used for the Saturn emulator to get virtual fighter runing so well? Are you using linuix or the android side?
I got the bundle with the 256gb card and they loaded it with quite a few Saturn games
Such a pity it does not run saturn well
That will be great for gba
Whats "romancing of compact disks"??
Im new to a lot of the emulation scene.
Hey-Anyone knows if the cheaper Anbernic RG Arc "S " Linnux version has the custom firmware working on it or is it only the more expensive D version that has custom firmware working?
Seen a few videos on this device, it would be good to get more information on saturn games which do not run well on this device, if it could play all of them without compromising gameplay that would make it 100% worth the money.
Rgt is a legend
I'd like a Dreamcast one.
There's Dreamcast games but no Saturn out of the box?
Whats it like running the other emulaters aswell tho??
Does it play ps1 good because i would expect it to if it can play saturn.
What about psp and N64?? Any good at running them aswell??
Its a great budget handheld if it can run them consoles aswell.
Seeing you wear that KISS tee lets me know that you're staying up to date as I am about their last show AND their new era. haha. Now I shall begin this video.
It has andriod mode so you can use dual sticks in ps2 or analog in n64...you should mention
Romancing of compact discs…..lol. That’s a good option but one of my fav to do is when you take your buddy Vimm and….enter his Lair.
How does it run the shining stuff for Saturn? Mainly 3 and holy ark?
Love the run all the RPG Saturn games on it. Plus the Sega Arcade games that were only released in Japan. Hmm
The other review I watched only had 4 Saturn games installed so I doubt it's perfect. I'm looking for cheaper emulator to play those 2 games (they're super expensive on saturn). Haven't had much luck.
Hey RG, did you watch the final Kiss Concert on PPV last night?
Remember the RGT85 ARC-D means it had duo OS Android and Linux whereas the RGT85 ARC-S means it only had a single OS which is Linux.
I wouldnt care for android with the amount of ram it has imo. ☮️
You had me at Saturn, now I see its running Panzer, I am buying this!
Temper your expectations. His first impression of saturn is good but this thing isn't powerful enough to run the emulators that are compatible with all the games on Saturn and/or run them without graphical errors.
This device does play the Saturn games really well. Maybe not all but most of the good games work great on it on native resoluion. Yes it woult be beter if it had the Tiger 618 chip but still it runs most game flawless.@@retropulse03
Wish it had analogue for those Dreamcast titles and for the odd Saturn game like Nights.
Welcome to the community dude lol! There are tons more hand helds just like this with different form factor's and capabilities.
I got the arc s and adore it.
Whats the difference between the Arc S and Arc D?
the D has dual boot option for operating system, you can load up either Android OS or Linux at boot. also the D has 2gb of ram, but that's probably overkill. @@mjcook3922
oh yeah also the D has a touchscreen. @@mjcook3922
Best game on the Sega Saturn was sonic 3D blast
There should be 4 saturn games built into the system
There's 2 models that you can buy,so maybe the other model has a handfull of Saturn games.
Why no rewind rom button
I woulf love it if you could do a video using a pc that can emulate up to Xbox, Wii and PS2 to hook it up with a CRT TV to have the ultimate retro experience
Impressive!
Can you try Keio Flying Squadron 2? Normally that game has huge fps issues if the device is not powerful enough (runs incredibly slow)
😲 Everybody's favorite Nintendo TH-camr 🎉
So many handheld emulators
The Miyoo Mini Plus still my favorite
Hopefully now, we can get Cyberia running decently
Does it have MVC2?
It's actually $105 for the arc-d version you reviewed.
$140 on amascum
Would love this ❤
Buenos dias y’all!
You're the first youtuber to say Saturn runs well, this is very important to me because it's going to determine whether I buy the thing or not. I only care about playing SEGA games on it anyways, so I was already on the fence if it could run mega drive fine, which it does, but now Saturn too? I'm sold.
Does it run Astal well?
Hey, don't forget to pick up your Physical Cartridge of Sam's Journey for the Famicom or NES now that it's out finally. Now just waiting on Orange Island and Piopow to come out.
That does look awesome even though you had to do all that back end side loading crap. I bought a very simple retro hand held before and all it had was a lawn mower game. All I had to do is what you did was to throw them all on myself.
Can you try some Dreamcast games on this?
So the dual boot version can run saturn but not the linux version?
Hey brother, cool little handheld. Any help how to get all the shining force 3 scenarios in English? Lol
At the website he mentioned
Battery life? Replaceable battery? SoC used?
Saturn Roms How Do I Find Them ?
I just ordered mine after watching several reviews. I tried convincing myself not to buy it, but this video finally convinced me just because I know rgt 85 doesn't give a s##t, and is honest. I am a fighting game fanatic, and always wanted to try some sega Saturn games. Thanx rgt.
Looks really nice since I know Sega Saturn are hard to emulate properly on a system, but a handheld system? Wow!
Does it output to the TV?
Maybe they just got lazy on the Saturn stuff!? Doesn’t matter since you can load your own.
i just wanna play all sets system in one
What about sonic jam 🤔
Is the world full speed
Is the genesis games accurate
I was thinking this wouldnt run saturn. I might get one soon then.
It's not a great Saturn option, he doesn't go deep enough here.
It will run some games under YabaSanshiro with frameskipping.
It can't run beetle_saturn.
you seem to be a good Saturn TH-camr ...
Looks like a game gear to me
???
does it have the cd player?
Mine came with Sega Saturn games, I was able to play Shinobi legions...
Do retroachievements work on these?
Anything with WiFi that will run RetroArch will work w/ RetroAcheivments.
"D-pad feels so good in my hand" thats what she said!
7:51. i definitely kno wat U talkn bout lol
Bookmarked the page. Can’t buy on now due to medical bills from herniated disc and degenerative disc disease on my lower back😢. Awesome video too Mr. RGT85 not a Nintendo Switch TH-camr.😂just kidding about that. Seriously love that you are honest about everything you try.
Save your money if your interest is Saturn. RGT means well here, but he's not diving deep enough.
It's not playing Saturn as well as he is led to believe. Some games will run well with an inaccurate emulator like he played here, but I would watch more reviews about the device before pulling the trigger. For my money (and I did buy one) It's not powerful enough to run the Saturn library at fullspeed without errors.
@@retropulse03 Can you speak a little more about the inaccurate emulator? I don't really understand.
@@sir_hammy Think of emulation like translation. You're taking the language of one machine, and putting it into another.
Because of this the end result can be very different. So if you compare something like YabaSanshiro2 to something like Beetle_Saturn you can start to see some of those differences.
My favorite example is YabaSanshiro can't handle some of the ground textures in Sonic R. When you jump, you will see the textures float around.
Another example is PowerSlave, there are holes in the rendering of walls, things don't line up correctly.
It takes a lot of power to emulate Saturn correctly, it's a complex system, and while YabaSanshiro 'works' it isn't an accurate representation of the the Saturn software.
You see this kind of thing with almost any emulator really, Sege Genesis sound reproduction was a big thing for long time, for example. There's also still a lot going on with N64. Most folks are using Glide64 RDP (Which, is pretty awesome in what it can do) but ParaLLEl accurately reproduces the VI filter that the system had - which drastically changes the look of each game.
can you use this emulator on the ps vita
Wow Cool
Re re at work keep telling me there is no buts
Ironic that it aint pre installed with Sega saturn games, even doh it looks like the freaking console controler!
Yep love if I saw i before with littlemadpixel
I loved my Sega Saturn! 🪐 If only Sega of Japan didn't undercut Sega of America things would be different today. Sega Dreamcast was perfect 🤩 Sega finally made the best gaming console ever but with the 32X in America & Saturn in Japan just made gamers mad. Paid for a 32X then told Saturn will be here in 4months! 😮 Damn u Sega of Japan!
Never owned any sega consoles until the dreamcast. I think im a pretty unbiased gamer and always considered the snes controller and xbox one and series x controllers as my favorite most comfortable designs. Again, thats a personal opinion. However, i just got into the saturn for the first time in my 32 years on this planet and the saturn controller officially takes my top spot. I legit want to play EVERYTHING 32 bit and earlier with this game pad. So good.
without at least one analog stick and analog triggers, a good portion of saturn games are going to be kneecapped, they need to make a revision with those features, some slightly better hardware for better dreamcast emulation, and obviously saturn support out of the box; then it'll be a good product, but until then I won't be spending any money on this.
I got the one without roms on the card as I had a card for the tf2 slot ready with my own games when it arrived so I didn't have that issue. I was shocked at how well saturn games play on this thing, so far some choppyness with one of the marvel vs fighting games but only the one. The ARC D now has my Sega games in that tf2 slot and I have my Nintendo games on my snes controller looking RG353P so I can decide when I wake up whether I feel like a Sega kid or nintendo kid that day and grab the appropriate device.
I think this cool we see devices like this but as an Rog ally owner I have to say I'll never need to pick one of these devices up
Wow ROMs are great. I SO think so!
Why is everybody calling this a Sega Saturn Handheld, it doesn't even play Sega Saturn.
Because someone boots up a rom that happens to run decent in YabaSanshiro and calls it "perfect" saturn emulation, and everyone just parrots it without learning.
Need a PS2 handheld that is about the same size .
Rg405m
That look like my Japanese Saturn controller.
...
This is weird because it doesn't run Saturn anywhere near what I would call "well".
Like, in a sense of that it won't run games on the accurate emulator.
It will run a good amount, passingly, using YabaSanshiro 2, so as long as you are playing a game that isn't riddled with graphical errors in that emulator (Like Sonic R, or PowerSlave for example) You could have a good saturn time with it.
I think this starts highlighting a big difference between "Good enough" emulation and "Accurate" emulation
I think "good enough" is well... good enough for most people.
I just wouldn't get this if anyone is looking for accurate saturn emulation, 'cause this thing doesn't have the power to run something like beetle_saturn unfortunately.
Sonic R is better on Dolphin anyways.
No Saturn Emulator for that one
Goat
Bought a Saturn from Best Buy for $79.99, it came with 3 games but i forgot which...
Virtua Fighter 2, Daytona USA, and Virtua Cop
Might have to get one of these. Bought a Retroid Pocket 2+ a few years ago and it works great for Mega Drive, SNES, Dreamcast, PSP etc but Saturn runs like crap on it. Think I’ll keep that for everything else and this exclusively for Saturn.
ok does is play Panzer Dragoon Saga?
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