More features, more money! MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มิ.ย. 2020
- A hands-on look at the MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk, successor to one of the best selling and critically acclaimed motherboards on the AM4 platform.
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Can it live up to the hype? MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
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00:04 - It goes without saying that I meant B550, not B450. Herpa derpa lerp.
What do you guys think of the board's features vs. its price?
n o o b
Bitwit price vs features seems very reasonable so long as the performance is there, which I expect it will be
MSi dropped it on my end. After the fails with the 450 and Ryzen 3000 series. They told on reddit i should buy a X570. A month later they finally fixed the CPU Post bug..
Would be above my budget.
A board like that looks nice and seems to be a very good board features wise...too bad it will cost around 270-300 dollars where I live...
B450: $110
B550: $179
*surprised Pikachu face*
It'll drop in a few months for sure
All the B450 boards were expensive too at launch - as the manufacturers recoup their initial investment and the initial launch rush subsides they will start to drop as we approach the Holiday season.
@@mcflu I've heard that before...yet in recent years prices for hardware have remained stable across the board.
Yeah hard pass thats too much not to mention you can get a x570 for that price most people dont even need pcie 4.0
It's not a fair comparison though, $110 for B450 is not MSRP but most recent pricing drop, we should look at how much it would have sold when it launched. I think it's a fair price given all the extra support you get.
*Takes out driver disk* "Is this a coaster... Yeah, this is an MSI coaster."
Not gonna lie, I laughed, and if any brand ever does include coasters in their products, they should totally make it look like a driver disk.
I have an asus coaster from my x470 crosshair vii hero
what does a coaster mean lol
Yeah I got one from my X370 crosshair VI Hero aswell.
But yeah it's so true that the CDs are uselesss. However i'm glad they still put them in there for the 1% of people who don't have internet on their PCs (maybe they only play offline video games??)
I've been using the coaster that came with my motherboard as a daily driver since day one. Big fan of the low profile design!
@@magma5267 it's a slab you put drinks on to prevent liquids from seeping into your table.
Kyle at 10:47: "We will have more content surrounding B550 once these boards officially launch on June 16."
Me: But, today is June 16. :(
:( im in Australia, its been June 16th for 20 hours now xD
I literally waited days just see the reviews of these board
He filmed the video before
:(
It is June 20th
yes finally the b550 arrived now i can buy the b450 thank god.
Tildax T yeah especially because it will also support ryzen 4000 talking about the b450
I know what you mean, i bought a B450, 3 days ago lol
Jamie Smith yup :(
You might not because prices have almost doubled and it’s never in stock
Julio Ramage I was gonna say they have more than doubled. The b550 board is cheaper than the b450
I feel like the verge would put the gpu on the ram slot.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha 😂
They would build in a disc drive for the coaster. :-)
Never forget
"RTX 2060 - YEAH, WE'VE GOT ONE"
"But then you have to download whatever garbage software to do it"
THANK YOU
Literally
Just to have Vanguard block the software that disables your RGB 😦
For some stuff, less is BETHER :D
"What is this? (Shows driver disk). A MSI coaster? Cool!"
It's just a setting in the bios on some boards, should be mandatory.
Verge:" so we put this 20 pin connector in the 8 pin slot/ dw you dont need the other 12 pins"
jjajajajajajaja, good
it is a 20 prong stickitinthere . you dont worry the extra pins are so you can use your wifi
@@Seguita_Tomiscem you are either Mexican or Latino or your parents are Mexican I'm I right ?
*whips out driver CD*
_"what is this? A coaster?"_
give me a thumb drive! atleast that can be reused
*whips out graphics card*
What is this, a coaster?
@@joeykeilholz925 3090ti coaster
How has wifey sauce not got annoyed by how kyle talks to his motherboards?
Because she’s a motherboard
You sure she doesn’t? 😂
Because he stops her from becoming mother bored.or conversely, he gives her the good mother bore.
@@joshholmes1372 ok nice puns my guy
He loves his mother more than anything
I'd really like to see more content like this from Bitwit more often.
In-depth yet concise analysis of a motherboard offerings with thoughts and considerations throughout, delivered in an entertaining fashion.
There are plenty of other "motherboard review" videos on TH-cam, but in so many of them they just beat around the bush the whole way through, saying a whole lot of nothing to essentially just tell us what we could read on the product page's summary anyways.
Keep up the good work, Kyle.
8:59 There's a premium platform for OC and bells & whistles.
IT'S CALLED X570!
Yeah but some of us are not rich like you
@@cruiseedwards4657 he is not rich... look at his videos
Just did a build with this. Great board. Would definitely recommend this to anyone.
"What is this a coaster?"
Oh that cracked me up
I'd like to see a comparison between the B550 and the X570 Tomahawk.
I don't know man, for just 10 bucks more you can get the X570 TUF wi-fi from Asus. It's buildzoid approved, and Hardware Unboxed's tests have shown it to be a very good board.
If the B550 Tomahawk was maybe around 150, it would be a good option. At 180, it's just too close to some very good budget X570 boards like the TUF wi-fi.
I only paid $140usd for mine brand new.
Exactly what I was thinking... This 550 has good features, but the price is not competitive at all. I'd definitely go for the asus x570 here.
Some of us don’t want a chipset fan. Not sure I will upgrade from a B450 version of this board. But the main reason I didn’t go w/ X570 was the chipset fan.
True! The pricing here is just plain stupid, they think it's going to get them more money?
Agree B550 price is so crazy some model even more expensive than X570 i have no idea why you would get B550 over x570
the b550 tomahawk is only a little bit less than the x570 tomahawk (the best of msi's x570 line) sooooooooooooooooo i wonder how well the b500 is going to sell (the b550 is only $30 cheaper than the x570 version) Edit:only $20 cheaper
It's $40 cheaper. I was able to preorder my x570 tomohawk from Amazon a few days ago at the price of $219.99 plus taxes.
I agree with you that this so high price for the b550 has no f**** sense!
There are already some X570 boards at around $150-160. This B550 is almost DOA unless price is adjusted.
They are all sold out or massively overpriced rn
Yeah but the vrm on this board is like $200 x570
GN did a video on X570 boards at every price point. Any X570 below $190 is not worth buying due to lack of necessary features, poor heatsinks, or bad power delivery. This B550 is basically a $200 Gigabyte Aorus Elite, only it's $170 instead (and has more fan headers). Also, that Giagabyte board is $380 on Newegg right now, so this board is one of the few in the $150-$200 range actually worth buying currently.
No fan is a big bonus. This is better than cheaper x570 boards.
I saw a 599 usd x570 board on bh and new egg.. The prices are stupid high
Great unboxing, going to use this MB on my future build. Thanks
So excited to build a new pc, these boards not only deliver but look good in the process.
Hopefully they have a lot of stock for this.
"Excuse me miss, I would like to look at your rear" - Kyle 2020
I pre-ordered this board the day it posted on amazon us. I'm upgrading from a MSI b350 tomahawk arctic that I have had since release. It has served me well, but this new board is looking great. It is unfortunate that the price has gone up a pretty good bit, but overall we are getting so much more with this board.
Releases tomorrow. Already sold out on Newegg.
Is it sold out because there's none in stock (they don't release stock for sale until the 16th), or all the pre-orders caused it go out of stock?
it feels great to be watching this on my newly finished pc.
Me as well!!!!
Good shit what’s the specs?
same
Same
Same feels eh man
When you're so early your like actually changes the counter
Might be a stalker, might be stuck at home during a pandemic.
when you write so useless ,that actually noone cares about
The first computer I ever built was with the msi b350 tomahawk so it's nice to see the successors to be so awesome
B450 Tomahawk 120€
B550 Tomahawk 200€
I choose B450.
The Brown RAT you realise that’s different currency right..
@Karan dhabalia I have PCIE 4.0 on my B450, did not upgrade the bios when AMD tried to disable it on B450 :-)
Wow so cheap here the motherboard cost about 1.5 million.
@Karan dhabalia I don't need any of this things.
@Karan dhabalia spoken like a true consoomer
me: afraid to touch the bottom of my mobo
kyle: slide to the left, slide to the right!
Me: *Cool the new B550 Tomahawk*
Bitwit Kyle: *B550 T H I C C!*
Nice to see that they used the pins from stock for something different than COM and LPT ports!
What a coincidence, I was thinking ‘when will kyle upload a review of the msi b550 board?’ and here you are, reviewing the msi b550 tomahawk.
This is an overview, not a review.
Sweet, a new B550 board. Now if I could only find a psu to plug it into.
So with the price hike would you not just stump up a little extra and go for the X570 Tomahawk instead of the B550?
*b550
Thanks again! another good video. - I'll sit tight for when you bench / test this board out.
Just got this board with an upgrade kit and a 5900x-- it *ROCKS!!* PBO2 dialed in at -25 and a gen4 ssd.. not one feature lacking.
Nice lookin' board you got there.
It's gonna be good having something to bridge the gap between the decent B450 and half-way decent X570 boards. Should save a lot of people from from ending up with mediocre X570's as well.
It'll be interesting to see the the rest of the B550 boards over the next month or so.
The price matches the product quality. I see no problem with it
thank you so much for making. I m planning on buying this but there was nothing that went this indepth. I really appriciate it, and i thank you. +1 subscription +1 like
Now if they get it certified with ECC and the new APUs come out and support it you could build a really nice NAS with it. You could the Gen 4 X16 slot for a card with a lot of M.2 drives and you could put 6 spinning disk on it. When not enterpise level you could build a pretty impressive SOHO NAS Or add a Grahics card and make it a great editing machine.
I really wanted to get this board but by the time I got on Newegg on Friday, the pre-orders were already sold out. I ended up going with the Asus ROG Strix B550-F. Ultimately, I'm just psyched to finally get this build done. My current mobo is an Asus Sabertooth Z77 and I haven't had any issues with it.
Edit:
So someone must have canceled their Tomahawk pre-order on Newegg and one became available which I snatched right up!
On a related note, there is now an Asus ROG Strix B550-F available for pre-order on Newegg :)
Congrats I got a gigabyte aurous pro ac the day preorders came out . The way Newegg just pops stuff on there site with no warning is unfair to the consumer .
Newegg currently has them up for preorder.
Good choice because the tomahawk is way better
@@randalllawkin Yep! Read some of the online reviews and watched today's HardwareUnboxed video and I'm pretty stoked for completing this build (finally!) later this week.
I think I like some of the RGB accents in the Strix more but that kind of stuff is just bonus.
Don't feel bad because I managed to get a pre-order and got told to get fucked because they didn't get enough inventory
"Have you been eating carbs past 5 P.M?" I feel called out. At l;east I can keep VRMs cool. Bitwit would you pair a 3900x with this? I currently have a 2600x
based on the B450 version and the new vrm on this board, it should definitely be able to handle a 3900X
@@Bitwit Thank you! I'm also considering the B550 Aorus Master, B550 Taichi, and B550 Strix E ( All around $279) for clearing CMOS, and Q codes but these LED's might be enough right? Which one would you choose? My Prime X470 isn't functioning 100% and I am itching to get a new board/ processor. I'll wait for your reviews thought if needed.
@@louisburley1597 Go for the Taichi.
@@louisburley1597 the Q code readouts give you more information than debug leds, but unless you are going to be doing a lot of overclocking/tweaking the debug leds are just fine.
You should absolutely wait for reviews though.
wait for 4900x
Looks like this one will go in my new build. Checks all the boxes and is a lot cheaper than any other x570 mobos.
One thing I'm curious about that's present in B450 and hoping they changed it is whether B550 disables SATA ports when you have NVMEs connected. B450 disables 2 SATA ports for each MVME you have connected, so if this fixed that issue then it's actually great for people who want to use as many drives as possible (I often have 6-9 drives depending on the PC I'm using because I need well over 15TBs of total internal storage). Currently about to build a 3600 system with B450 and saw this coming out so got interested...
I didn't like the part where it said "more money" in the title
I didn't like when it said money
@@Plane. I didn't like it.
Sohan A. I. I didn’t
Hold up, hold up.. "prone to breaking like we saw on the vast majority of X570 boards." Say what now?
I have been watching you videos for years i i finally subbed yesterday. thanks for always providing entertainment for us people...
Love my tomahawk. Put it in my very first custom build.
What we wanted: B550
What they gave us: X550
Hahahaha
I'm still waiting for the
Gigabyte B550 DS3H 2.0
Wonder what the price of that will be
Hahaha
Only 0:04 into the video and you already called it a b450 board
I ordered everything for my build. Im buying b550 strix f gaming tomorrow on launch hopefully I will get it
I currently have the b450 tomahawk max and I love it so this is about to be crazy especially if they drop a max version
I will just give another 20 usd and buy x570 tomahawk.
@SpankBuda Dang, selling a used $115 Motherboard for $170. The art of the deal.
@SpankBuda yea idk what these ppl are smoking I can't find any x570 mobo with these specs for lower than 240€
@@blazevect2414 newegg restocked at the beginning of this month.-. I built my first PC from newegg parts, nothing overpriced
175, this guy is a douche lol
Even got my coolermaster case (ruined the rgb fans bc instructions were stupid) and a 650 broze+ psu
Got it aallll
I'd never pay double, people just need to check once or twice a day for restock, simple
@SpankBuda bloody hell what moron bought your used mobo for $170
@SpankBuda new b450 cost 115$+- and u sell USED motherboard for 170$?)nice joke bob)
Fun fact: The people who say first have not even watched the video
First :-)
Yes very true
This is true. But it's first to comment, not first to watch
True
First
The one handed show and tell king is back! 🤙🏼
Will done as always!
@8:30 B450 also has USB 3.1 Gen 2 support. My Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro has two USB 3.1 Gen 2 ports. I just thought I should put that out there.
My wallet: "Now this is an Avengers level threat..."
*B550 releases*
Wallet: Infinity war.
*Zen 3 releases*
Wallet: We're in the Endgame now
Buying a mobo right now is really hard everything come into stock and goes out of stock in like 5 minutes
Yea but really only for ryzen all intel boards are not really sold out :/
Dude me to should I buy this I pay an extra 100$ for a Asus x570 board
True. And everything is inflated as fuck
Cryox that’s because no one is buying Intel, why would you spend so much when Ryzen can give a almost exact same FPS for a lot cheaper?
Cryox because the intel intel market is dying
0:17 wow that hand is super realistic!
it's very expensive here in India right now but after couple of months price will drop usually as more manufacturers make it available
0:04 mag b450 tomahawk.
*MSI am I a joke to you?
MAG MEG...what's up with those names MSI?
@@boblee5524 idk man, motherboard names are always confusing anyways.
Kyle:*gets a b550 motherboard that hasn't realised yet*
Also kyle:*opens it with one hand*
Another nice difference between this B550 Tomahawk compared to the B550 Mortar and Bazooka, is that it has 6 PCB layers on the motherboard. The Mortar and Bazooka apparently only has 4 layers.
As a watercooler who highly values silent computers, having the passively cooled chipset is a huge plus.
8:58 you cannot find the B450 tomahawk😭😭
True that
@@carlossalas7945 just got one from newegg
Anyone else think he sounds like Tobias from arrested development.
No
@karl marx Than why did 17 people like my comment.
Man! So close to 2 million subscribers!
In Malaysia, the most popular B450 board is the Asrock B450M Steel Legend.
It's also the board with the most problem.
You know your a pc nerd when parts like this kinda turn u on
No cap
I get a semi every time I hear the word tomahawk.
@@theycallmegod3084 LMFAOO
I can't even find the b450
Newegg haves them 299$
The B550 is 179.99
Yeah most the parts I was going to order are all out of stock
Meme Surfer the only reason there so overpriced is because there high demand, if you just wait to find them there normally 110$ for standard and 115$ for the Max version. So honestly just buy the 450
Meme Surfer the 550 is overpriced even normally
@@beastgamez5296 but 450 won't support 4000 series. For future proofing, 550 is much better
Hopefully you do a build with a B550 board, would be really cool to see it in action
The only b550 I'm looking forward is the gigabyte vision d, I love how simplistic it look looking forward for that mobo.
welp, i guess i am gonna continue to recommend ryzen 3rd gen with b450 motherboards.
AMD is having a hard enough time trying to get 4th gen Ryzen to work with B450. There's basically zero chance that it will work with 5th gen Ryzen, so anyone who follows your advice will have to buy a new mobo whenever they want to upgrade their CPU. At that point, you might as well just tell them to buy Intel. Personally, I'd rather recommend a B550 that will cost them $50 more now (with $50 worth of new features), but saves them $100+ in the future if they want to upgrade to Ryzen 5th/6th gen.
@@HotCrossJuns B550 mobos have am4 sockets right? Wasn't AMD going to change to am5 or whatever the successor of am4 should be called right after 3rd gen 4000 series?
@@HotCrossJuns that depends on how long they plan on keeping the PC, if the person is going to keep the PC for 3 to 5 years, I think it is worth it to save money on the motherboard. Also, intel may be matching ryzen in thread and core count but their multithreaded performance in cpu heavy tasks is still behind. The Z490 boards are also a lot more expensive and B460 is not going to allow XMP settings which further decreases performance.
@@HotCrossJuns B450 and B550 use the same AM4 socket. B550 will be the last motherboards using this socket, 5th gen cpus will use a different one (AM5?) and eventually you will have to upgrade your motherboard as well... So if someone for example already has a B450 there's no point to upgrade to B550, he can just save his money and upgrade his system when 5th gen cpus and supported motherboards (don't forget DDR5 RAM as well) get released.
@@StanleyHir Recommending Intel was sarcastic. I was mocking them for constantly changing chipsets. I wouldn't actually tell anyone to buy an Intel motherboard unless they wanted to spend $2000+ on a PC that's just for gaming (and I don't generally talk to people with that kind of disposable cash)
The B550 line is a joke when it comes to price. Black Friday here I come.
As part of you full review, can you please look at how large air coolers like the Noctura Nh-D15 or CoolMaster 212.
2:16 Shinny is basically a mini-game of hockey up here in Canada. About 1% of people that live in the Lower Main Land know what it means. About 99% of people in rural Saskatchewan know what it means.
Might be a woosh moment for me, but he was saying "shimmy" I believe. It refers to a dance move where you shake your whole body. He was saying it cause he shook the board back and forth to remove the anti-static packaging.
@@scoiitube Well... In Canada, we think Americans speak funny. We think they speak American. :P
first
Dang
This must be a joke
oooh you fast boi
@@moudjuh i just refreshed the subscription page and It popped up lmao
I have the B450 Tomahawk, while registering it with MSI I suggested S/PDIF out, pre-installed I/O (extension of heat sink), and a way to disable the LED on back of board through bios 👍🤓 Man I love MSI!! Once I upgraded my case I suddenly found my self wishing for an on board type C, Boom MSI for the Win!!
Question - does B550 have support for faster RAM speed then X570?
Got one of these for my Ryzen 7 5800x3d build with a Rtx 4070 ti. Was plug n play for the CPU for anyone wondering, had a bios from 2022 on it.
Thanks
Did not know you could clear CMOS through removing the battery, thanks!
Old school 1990s method.
Thank you for the info, I’m planning my first build on a gaming pc and I’m looking at this one, so far I got the ram sticks, the MSI MPG Series A850GF Power Supply, and the MSI SPATIUM M480 PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 1TB HS Internal SSD PCIe Gen4 NVMe 1.4 3D NAND 1400 TBW, im gonna look for cpu and gpu and then other stuff
I think the price is right where it should be, its an upgraded board, looks great. pcie gen 4 and the fan locations on the board are perfect and it looks great.
I honestly don't think there are enough features for such a price jump. I could've still gone for that board out of the reliability and quality, until seeing it's back. Even just 2 more usb ports would have gone a long way for me, so I think I will stick to my x470 for now.
they lunched it the day of my birthday dammm
Tiny hand is the best addition to the bitwit cinematic universe
just ordered one a few minutes ago to replace my tomahawk max. already sold out again lol. reminds me of the ol ebay auction sniping days
i actually freaked out when your actual hand popped out LOL
2:45 "amped up" lol unintended pun
Bitwit unboxing with one hand while recording=me making breakfast with one hand while watching
love it!! just got the b450 6 weeks ago... but i get to build my son a PC! every one been saying for years why don't they just make a full I.O heatsink!!! that thing will cool your house!!
3 years from this video and now I just ordered one that also came with the Ryzen 5 5600 for only 200 bucks
01:50 - Coaster hehehe, havent seen DVD for ages loool :D
been running my b450 for over 5 years now. Got a 5800x3d and now im good for another 5 thanks amd!
When you can test it. Would you please do a full tomahawk line up ? I love these motherboards . The price for this should be around 135 in my opinion. Keep up the great videos.
If they had put an x4 pcie slot instead of the second M.2 it would have been better.
Other than that, it looks a solid board. Finally dual LAN is also back.
Lot of fan headers
With debug LEDs, all those fan headers, rgb, and the pci e 4 support, I am shocked it's sub 200 price point. I just hope I can get my hands on one.
Would you consider giving us the specs of the HDMI and Display ports (like you do with USB) on this or future reviews? A lot of the websites do not offer these specs readily and it would be relevant in instances of using APU's for HTPC use. Things like 4K HDR 60 for movies etc. Thanks!
Ive learned that motherboards of the same naming scheme can't be compared across chipsets and generations. All the naming should tell you is really the aesthetic, and maybe some particular features.
For example, the ASUS TUF boards range from monster 990FX boards that could handle the 9590 to budget z270 boards with wimpy 3 phase VRM's.
Was not expecting the mother-board intro 😅
what a nice motherboard. i'm considering the b550m mortar for my micro atx build