NASCAR's Bowman Gray Stadium: Circus Show or Short Track Racing on Hallowed Grounds? | DJD Reloaded

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  • Matthew Dillner made his return to Dirty Mo Media to debate Door Bumper Clear’s Freddie Kraft on one of the topics he holds nearest and dearest to his heart: short-track racing.
    The conversation began to heat up when Bowman Gray Stadium was mentioned. From our fans to anonymous NASCAR drivers to our hosts, everyone has an opinion!
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ความคิดเห็น • 94

  • @regularperson7
    @regularperson7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Bgs is a ton of fun. Yeah theres chaos but its not as much as its made out to be. Second to last race of the cars tour last year had more chaos than most of bgs races last year. And i think its good to have tracks that are like that too. You want to have some environments where it is just chaos. It offsets some of the more cleaned up races.

    • @Mikesacco1B
      @Mikesacco1B 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dilner rules

  • @KylerSommers
    @KylerSommers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The hardcore bowman grey fans are wild, but it's definitely a fun place to watch a race, worth seeing. Shouldn't be taken super seriously

    • @jonkluver7912
      @jonkluver7912 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bgd is entertainment and has a value, and something I would like to witness... but some of the videos are cringeworthy. But again, I go back for more. There is short track racing, and then there is BG, that is just my opinion.

  • @KevinSeavy
    @KevinSeavy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Bowman gray when it is sold out is a crazy place. The racing CAN be good when the drivers tone down the aggressiveness. It can also devolve into a circus quickly

  • @MarkSoman
    @MarkSoman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Eldora Speedway is the best short track in the world, 30,000 people for the biggest events, extremely nice facilities, cheap concessions and beer. Oh and a bad fast dirt half mile. What more do you want

    • @KerryChaplin
      @KerryChaplin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pennsylvania tracks like Port Royal and William's Grove have better racing

    • @MarkSoman
      @MarkSoman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@KerryChaplinarguable, port royal is definitely a gem too though

  • @Tannerjohnson6793
    @Tannerjohnson6793 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's not all spinning at BGS, it is an extremely tight track, but when drivers use a little restraint the racing can be good there.

  • @KerryChaplin
    @KerryChaplin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    How do you have a discussion about the best short tracks and not include dirt tracks which are the majority of the bigger facilities

    • @trev3971
      @trev3971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because this channel is about pavement racing 99% of the time.

    • @KerryChaplin
      @KerryChaplin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@trev3971 damn that's lame

    • @trev3971
      @trev3971 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KerryChaplin Dillner focuses on pavement for Flo. Freddie spots in NASCAR. This is the channel of the most famous pavement racer in America. What did you expect?

    • @MotorSport33-f5u
      @MotorSport33-f5u 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who cares about dirt racing???

  • @Jim-qc6gu
    @Jim-qc6gu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Attended my first race at Bowman Gray Stadium in 1966, modifieds were crazy then as they are now.

  • @JoshDavidson-v3q
    @JoshDavidson-v3q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The atmosphere at Bowman Gray is really only rivaled by the dirt track giants like Eldora, Chili Bowl, and Knoxville. I just wish it was a more normal racetrack

  • @MiamiMallAlien
    @MiamiMallAlien 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The sportsman class which is basically a super late model is great there. Yes it's hard to pass that's why it's such a unique track.

  • @skylerwhitfield2
    @skylerwhitfield2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    BGS is the most well attended weekly short track show in the country. How you want to characterize that is up to you. You can see great racing all over the Carolinas any given weekend but there is only one Madhouse.

  • @NickKirby-k6s
    @NickKirby-k6s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Eldora speedway in ohio and Knoxville raceway in iowa hold 30 and 25 thousand people respectively, no pavement short track outside of nascar tracks come close

    • @NickKirby-k6s
      @NickKirby-k6s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bowman gray is trash by the way. Five Flags, Nashville Fairgroud, Oswego, those are real pavement short tracks that deserve to be talked about

  • @bradenLa
    @bradenLa 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    These pavement fans are funny. Venues like Eldora, Knoxville, Chili bowl, Williams Grove are the best short track venues in the world.

    • @KerryChaplin
      @KerryChaplin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Williams Grove has amazing racing, too bad the facilities are trash. Other 3 are extremely nice race tracks

    • @GradySizemore-k8i
      @GradySizemore-k8i 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah this whole segment was one big pavement circle jerk lol 😂😂

    • @kylegustafson6088
      @kylegustafson6088 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      These dirt fans are funny. They comment on NASCAR videos just to say how cool dirt racing is.

    • @GavinWiley
      @GavinWiley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@kylegustafson6088😂😂 wow this guy is triggered

    • @CamReynolds-w3l
      @CamReynolds-w3l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amen brother!

  • @eliteracingvidz3675
    @eliteracingvidz3675 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Bowman Gray Stadium: Hate Us Cause They Aint Us. Stands are packed every weekend. Car count through the roof while other tracks are dying.

    • @AJMaheu
      @AJMaheu 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Freddie is 100% correct though. It is entertainment not good racing

    • @tomt9543
      @tomt9543 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In a Fox8 TV story a few years ago about BGS, Promotor Gray Garrison was asked “do you sell racing or entertainment?”. His answer was “ENTERTAINMENT!”. This place holds 17,000 spectators, and they sell out every week!

    • @KylerSommers
      @KylerSommers 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@tomt9543 and there's nothing wrong with that, maybe those people will go to more normal track later. People who get all uppity about bowman gray are cringe

    • @MaxVerclappin
      @MaxVerclappin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dirt tracks aren't dying, or at least not at the rate pavement tracks are. The major dirt track tours are actually growing rapidly

  • @user-cr9xl2pi3u
    @user-cr9xl2pi3u 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    These people who act like there's no good racing at bowman gray are wrong, especially in the fendered classes. If you have a flo racing subscription check it out

  • @Ochoduckie
    @Ochoduckie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Kinda cruddy you cut out the part where Freddie gave props to Irwindale Speedway. Excellent facility. NASCAR should just develop the property, put in 30K more seats and make that a coliseum! They can use the money from selling off Fontucky to build it out.

  • @jacobkindiger4593
    @jacobkindiger4593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Freddie and Matt look like long lost brothers.

  • @D.JCarter
    @D.JCarter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Non wing sprint cars at eldora make the snowball derby look like a tea party

  • @CharlotteCaniac
    @CharlotteCaniac 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ironic of Freddy to call people clowns for doing exactly what Bubba did to Kyle Larson

  • @GoinginCirclesContinually
    @GoinginCirclesContinually 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Knoxville is the best short track in the world but bowman gray is alot of fun. If you are taking bowman gray seriously you have lost the plot

  • @GavinWiley
    @GavinWiley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    World 100 at eldora speedway is the best short track race, snowball derby is cool for pavement, and five flags looks like a neat joint but it dosn't hold a candle to the big E

  • @AudioWonderland
    @AudioWonderland 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bowman Gray is high dollar demo derby

    • @MiamiMallAlien
      @MiamiMallAlien 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never watched a full race there I bet, stop basing your opinion on what other people say

    • @AudioWonderland
      @AudioWonderland 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There is this thing called TH-cam... Maybe you have heard of it. I have seen plenty of races there... They all end in fights and tore up cars. They cant't pass clean on that go kart track so they put them in the wall to get around. Its popular for the same reason Pro Wrestling and Jerry springer is. The racing sucks. @@MiamiMallAlien

  • @keeganhoward5850
    @keeganhoward5850 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a Vermonter it was cool to hear the thunder road praise

  • @FrankCrum-g4t
    @FrankCrum-g4t 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's a very tight track where light contact is usually necessarily to pass, i wouldn't want to own a car that races there but i have no problem with it existing

  • @Sig8690
    @Sig8690 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The tv series at bowman gray was great.

    • @MarkSoman
      @MarkSoman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Flo racing has a cool film for free on youtube called madhouse, the guy on the right in this video was the narrator.

    • @DakotaMartin7
      @DakotaMartin7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was on the TV show in 2018

  • @jonathanwooldridge7679
    @jonathanwooldridge7679 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Need more from Freddie and Matt content!

  • @steveeazy18
    @steveeazy18 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's a great party with some ok racing so i would recommend going having fun and stop being so dam serious!!

  • @OHIOFARMBOY
    @OHIOFARMBOY 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's a hooligan track for sure. But the hayes jewelers 200 is a really fun event. If i lived in N Carolina i would go a few times a year

  • @timkis64
    @timkis64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i dont consider demolition derby's racing, merely needless destruction.

  • @dangerzone24
    @dangerzone24 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They're not wrong! I want room for the cars to race, otherwise just run Legends or Midgets whose size makes more sense.

    • @topmech71
      @topmech71 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very true...midgets or quarter midgets and motorcycles.

    • @KerryChaplin
      @KerryChaplin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A midget race there could actually be awesome

  • @jonathanwooldridge7679
    @jonathanwooldridge7679 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Motor mile/NRV speedway!

  • @roberthevern6169
    @roberthevern6169 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Matthew Dillner!!!!
    Just try not to engage with Freddie. It's a can't win proposition!!!
    Great to see you in this format!! You remind me Andy Richter!! Lost Speedways, baby!!!!!

  • @NeonGhostin
    @NeonGhostin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bowman Gray always struck as a place for demolition derbys that are occasionally interrupted by racing.

  • @StudioDaVeed
    @StudioDaVeed 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    BG as run today is an insult.
    Just like WWE.....

  • @adamkievit2427
    @adamkievit2427 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Freddies's 100% correct. Bowman Gray has crap racing. They put on an amazing show. You do not go to BG for the racing.

  • @StevenClemens-zk3kk
    @StevenClemens-zk3kk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Eldora and Knoxville are superior facilities to bowman gray.

    • @perryhayesjr.9738
      @perryhayesjr.9738 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You've never been to BGS obviously.

    • @perryhayesjr.9738
      @perryhayesjr.9738 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do they pack 15,000 to 19,000 EVERY WEEK. I've seen the stands full and people standing 3-4 deep at the wall that goes around at the top of the bleachers.

  • @wadeturner2665
    @wadeturner2665 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If he thinks BG is a clown show, wait until they tell/remind him about the chain racing.😂

  • @bubwal23xifan
    @bubwal23xifan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BGS is definitely a shitshow. You go there not for the racing, you go there only to see whos who's gonna fight and how many fights there will be. You know, I know it.
    Freddie is 💯 right. And thats why the track doesn't do anything about it. Because it is a draw

  • @TravisMSimpson
    @TravisMSimpson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Drivers have been sent home and they still act stupid. They get arrested and still act stupid. There's no fixing stupid.

    • @MarkStavely
      @MarkStavely 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Let them have fun Karen

    • @TravisMSimpson
      @TravisMSimpson 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MarkStavely I'm just pointing out the fact that their theory of sending them home won't work.

  • @TOdabeasts
    @TOdabeasts 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thompson speedway racing quality, stafford for facility.

  • @rogerriggs6055
    @rogerriggs6055 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Look guys,you keep talking about short tracks their is one track just sitting there like a ghost, that could be brought back, and you guys never mentioned ever how about 311 motor speedway 1/2 dirt, been here over 50 years, alot of cup drivers raced there on being dale sr bill elliott just to name a few, great racing but no one every talks about it why?

    • @jaywill5352
      @jaywill5352 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      311 in Madison? I loved that track

  • @CaseyArmstrong-y3q
    @CaseyArmstrong-y3q 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fast Phils Limousine Service

  • @jkng4606
    @jkng4606 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BG is not a real race track, its a fIat 1/4 mile strip of asphalt around a football field

  • @blakedamaan
    @blakedamaan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow wow. You spot for who ? 🤣🤣

  • @darrylniehoff2707
    @darrylniehoff2707 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But it seems to pack the stands

  • @Staley31
    @Staley31 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Freddie can’t really say the people that race there are clowns, I used to race there, the man he spots for in the cup series ran there and acted like a “clown” after the race soooo

  • @AJQuakenbush
    @AJQuakenbush 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hate on it all you want. It's packed every weekend from April to August. It's entertainment for sure, there is great racing and rivalries there. Something the sport lacks now with this F1 style technology racing. There is more raw talent there than most of the top 3 series. They just don't have daddy's money, big sponsor, or last name.

  • @caine12
    @caine12 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Miss Matt he brought something to the postcast that’s missing

  • @teamcrisciracing
    @teamcrisciracing 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bowman Gray is the best racing in the country, sorry. The beating and banging is not every lap, every race like people think who have never been there and only talk about what they see on twitter videos. There is truly no place like it, like going back in time. And the racing is exciting every lap, especially the late models!!

  • @nicolekestner185
    @nicolekestner185 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bowman gray were wanna be racer go

  • @jerwatson79
    @jerwatson79 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whos the girl?

  • @blakedamaan
    @blakedamaan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really, what is this about bowmangray And you haven’t even been. You have no idea.

  • @metalhead1136
    @metalhead1136 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Freddie said bowman not real racing but at least it's not boring like nascrap is

  • @Beckartwork2023
    @Beckartwork2023 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha it’s Winston Salem! Red neck racing and beer! It’s the best drama in town.

  • @ThiccRicc
    @ThiccRicc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bowman grey is pointless and i think real race car drivers will agree

    • @MiamiMallAlien
      @MiamiMallAlien 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nah it's just a different style of racing, I garenntee you have never even watched a full race there

    • @ThiccRicc
      @ThiccRicc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MiamiMallAlien sure have. It's terrible