I think the Korean people could probably survive without K-pop. But North Korea rule would probably bring the death millions since most South Koreans hate the North Korean government anyways and you know what they do to dissenters in North Korea.
actually the govt did step in and held a lot of meetings in terms of exempting bts from the military (ofc due to the money they’re bringing) even tho bts themselves didn’t asked for the exemption. It’s also the reason why the oldest member of bts couldn’t go for a long time.
Those saying it's making an example make no sense. So many people get exemptions for doing less than what BTS have done. It wasn't fair, and it has never been about fairness. If BTS don't deserve an exemption, NOBODY does.
The South Korean government is probably trying to set an example through this. BTS might not be making propaganda but simply the act of them serving the same as any other male itself sends a strong message to South Korea's citizens.
Actually, BTS decided to go exactly to take the power of the decision away from the SK government. The gov had been debating their exemption since 2018/2019 and they always wanted to see more of BTS' impact, saying they were gonna decide after the boys had done enough for their country (even though they are the biggest artists South Korea has even seen coming from there). So they just got tired of being used as pawns and announced they were going without even giving a warning to the government beforehand. More so because they never said they wouldn't go, they never asked for exemption, the only thing they've always said about the topic was "we will go when called upon", so the whole discourse only got them hated for absolutely no reason. But yes, I agree with you, they will be used as propaganda even if they don't want to and it does send a strong message to everyone, even though not a positive one for South Korea.
The government has spent this entire year arguing back and forth on whether the group should be exempt or not. BTS then took it upon themselves to announce at the end of their concert in Busan that they will all be enlisting starting with the oldest member Jin. The enlistment period is 18 months, they will reunite in 2025
So they let it go on, and when they noticed it wasn’t gonna work out for them then they tried to act like the bigger person and say “we will go”? wouldn’t say that is taking it upon them selves but sure is a good to see they aren’t any different than anyone else.
@@arnowisp6244 no, this is basically done for PR. The government definitely was enlisting them, but BTS stating that they would be enlisting is done to increase their fanbase and respect for the individuals. Had they actually wanted to enlist, there would be no discussion, they would have done it at the beginning but after all this time, them stating it increases the people's respect for them. it's all PR.
The government actually did postpone their service by a couple of years. I believe one member, Jin, was supposed to go in 2020 but was given an extension. I think it's a move for BTS to set an example and also because BTS actually may want to serve their country.
Korean here. 1. It's actually 1.5 years (18 months). 2. Things did not go well for celebrities who evaded service (ex. Steven Yoo - got U.S. citizenship, banned from entering Korea for more than 20 years) 3. All things are based on law. The government cannot exempt certain people from military service without any legal reason. There is currently no law to exempt KPOP stars from military service despite their popularity. On the otherhand, there are laws that provide exemption to sports stars who have won medals in international games. Current discussions are focused more on scrapping this law favoring sports stars, not the other way around. 4. They would probably bring Korea more money than any other celebrities combined while they're all in the military. 5. Unless they're sent to the border (which is highly unlikely), things are not bad inside the barracks, especially when they are BTS. 6. Celebrities who completed service have maintained their fame, as will BTS for sure.
It's kinda unfair that Olympic medalist are exempted from military bcs bts have brought more glory to sk. But glad they didn't exempt. They showed a big example that you should be lawful to ur country eventho ur privileged or talented
Yeah, I was wondering why he didn't bring this up. They're citizens of Korea and they don't care if they can stay or not. Going through this process is a requirement, but it's also something they're proud to do.
@Lanes Just because you hate them doesn't mean that they should die. All lives matter. Even yours. I hate you yet I'm not saying "get hit by North Korea's nukes". You really must be five years old to say this stuff
The SK government tried to postponed their enlistment as long as they can, but the members already said they will do their responsibility as SK men, they already do their health check up for the enlistment program far back then, someone met the leader RM when he do the health check up in 2016/2017 when they weren’t as big as now. But because of the government are afraid to lose their income, the BTS and BigHit entertainment got hate from South Korean men because they thought the members tried to avoid doing their service.
This is completely wrong and here's why. Hybe has actually tried to exempt their enlistment by submitting tons of documentation of their contributions to their country (Jin recently got his back since he was going anyway). BTS has always said they would do the military service and never they want to do it. No one in their right mind would want to put their very successful careers on hold to do unnecessary stuff. The current president of SK along with various Chaebol (rich families) sons have gotten exemption even without doing absolutely nothing for their country while BTS brings in Billions yearly, directly. I don't remember the name but this one footballer was exempted bc he was able to get a goal medal and if we follow the same reasoning BTS should be given the same exemption. The whole reason BTS are going now is bc Jin is going to be 30 and since the government isn't going to help they have nothing else to do. Cuz be serious if there's a war I'm pretty sure BTS won't be sent to the front lines immediately.
@@jennakimjeon8446 Son Heung-min was exempted because he won gold at the Asian Games. He would have got exemption in 2014 if his club (Bayer Leverkusen) had released him however they were under no obligation as the Asian Games are not FIFA affiliated. Fortunately Spurs let him go the 2018 games and he won it that year.
BTS would have started their military service a while ago if the government hadn’t postponed it. But the members themselves now feel like it’s a part of their duty to go so it won’t be postponed for much longer now. Also there are other Korean celebrities who have finished their military service and continue to do so, so it only feels fair that BTS goes as well.
But there have not been another group that had brought so much exposure or money to the country’s economy like BTS. Lety also remember that athletes and classical musicians amongst others have gotten exemptions without doing not nearly as much as BTS
@@Crisfer05 so if they r huge economical benefit to the society they shouldn’t go to military? So any big corporate owner shouldn’t go r? And athletes get circumstantial dodge cuz they r literally playing for their country, not for commercial good. You clearly don’t have any understanding of the recruitment system in Korea, so stfu. U r literally classing humans
@vladimirrashkovsky6274 yes exactly. Someone who makes 3.7 billion is worth a lot more by making that money, and not just another solider on the battlefield. It doesnt matter how they do it if they make it.
@@hmmm-hr7vmso if north and south are in war again, are the government gonna use those money to hire armies from another country to fight for your country AGAIN?
Y’all BTS has been very clear that they WANT to serve. Like the gov. obviously doesn’t want them too bc of how much money they make but Jin said himself that he wants to enlist just like every other male.
This could be a huge break for them, and the come back could be massive also, who knows, and we all know what happened to celebrities who refuse to serve in the Korean military.
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I think this is wholesome, because this means that BTS members aren’t trying to put themselves higher than the average citizen, and they are serving their country😊😊😊
Im glad the members themselves wanna go. But i just wanna point out that they are not going there all at the same time. They will be going by oldest to youngest. Which means the oldest member (jin) whos 30 will be going first and im pretty sure suga (2nd oldest) is going with him at the same time. I hope they dont have a hard time as k-artists have complained about their time in the military due to people knowing them there
Some of the members of day6 are currently serving and the lead love interest for extraordinary attorney woo is serving as well, I don’t think they’re going to have a hard time because they are respected celebrities in the country. Just think of when Elvis or Johnny Cash served (tho Elvis got a hell of a lot of special treatment but u get what I mean)
@@blubber9047 Since their celebrities it could be hard since people know them. Korean artist complain that everyone would look at them while they were showering
@@richardmangelmann4975 i disagree. And agree at the same time. The members probably want to reunite as fast as possible but the company will have a hard time. Despite their company having alot of big groups. Newjeans(seen as monster rookies recently with their song hype boy trending) txt(currently the 2nd most famous group in kpop 4th generation ) and seventeen, i dont know much about them but they are one of the biggest kpop groups. But bts is definitely the reason why they have so much money. Their company went bankrupt until bts went viral. They stated that the members will have solo projects. Like solo songs. And honestly i think the members might do some acting (mostly Taehyung) Good luck to them, i hope that bts leaves their company and finds a better one. Their company has been doing everything to get all the money from bts.
Yes people need to understand that this is a PR move by Hybe to show the members as loyal and patriotic citizens, who are just like every other Korean man
@@migukmystic3940 How is it a PR move to do something that is legally required? Jin already postponed his enlistment because of the Busan concert and went in during a worse season because of it. The others have enlisted at the relatively same time because it makes sense for them to have as small of a window of inactivity as possible. Just because most other idol groups don't value the group enough to enlist earlier than mandatory does not mean it's not the best strategy. It's just that in most groups they prioritise personal gain over the whole. I'm not saying it's wrong, just that BTS has always put the group first and they continue to do so. Also, this was a no-win situation for them. If they got exempted and didn't enlist they would not hear the end of it for the rest of their lives even though people at the top of their fields in other artistic and sports-related areas have exceptions made.
The possibility of an exemption has been under study for years at this point, which is why it's been delayed for so long (Jin, the oldest member, is way past the normal age for people to enroll). I'm fairly sure both their company and the South Korean government were pushing for an exemption, for obvious financial reasons. However the BTS members themselves stated again and again that they wanted to serve like anyone else and that it was important to them.
They said they will serve IF called. They never said even if given the option, they will still choose serving. I mean they became idols and are passionate about their job and would cry if they felt they haven't given their all on stage. They should have been soldiers from the start, not idols, if they like serving he military so much
No, they will serve in the military because a lot of people will judge them if they would not go. There was a poll made in Korea where more than 50% of people taught that they should go ( sadly).
BigHit and BTS themselves did not ask for exemption. They got brought up and granted delay by the govt bc of their Cultural Merit award, but KOMCA and other companies used them as basis towards negotiating for exemption for their own idols. BigHit and BTS themselves were not part of these talks, and the govt essentially dragged this out so BigHit and BTS just went ahead and decided for themselves instead of just being used for this exemption debate that the sk govt had no intentions to actually enact.
The reason why they remove the "entertainer/service" is to make sure there is a sense of "equality" when it comes to who's serving, that all are subjected to serve without exemption. If they roll this back for BTS, then they would have to do the same for the other bands that got enlisted too. The backlashes would be too much.
Yeah, but that’s a load of crap. The video even mentions that plenty of other Korean celebs and important men have gotten out of doing service through various loopholes.
What Fk Are you talking about when did serving in the military considered being cultural? See this is why i consider these kind of shit stupid cuz fans of these bands come up stupid Shit like u just said now
They're going to be doing admin work no doubt. G-Dragon said that other guys were watching him shower and ogling his bits, and he had to be moved to another unit to finish his service. BTS will be protected while they serve.
I never knew this about GD. That’s terrible. But if BTS was to get protection from this, people would probably think they are getting special treatment.
@@sab-nm9di GD service were a mess, a fellow soldier that is in the same unit with him kept a tab about his body, write stuff like tattoos, scars, mole and share this info to his girlfriend. He also suffers from big injuries and had to be hospitalized and people were witchhunting him accused GD of receiving special treatment. The Military had to give out a statement over and over again that he is using holidays properly like any normal citizens. The rumor of special treatment were blown off, because the harassment and stalkerish behaviour he received prompt the military to move him away + he was hospitalized.
As a South Korean, I'd say South Koreans' number 1 value is "fairness". If a man has to serve for the army, he has to do. No matter how rich he is, how famous he is, his background, his connections, his family power, etc. the law is there for everyone to follow, and it's as simple as that.
This reason is because military is one of the biggest honors in korea that is why so many women do it to and BTS feel like it is an honor that they can't turn down
They’re doing their civic duty and setting an example when other idols haven’t. and now they’re on hiatus, I think this is the best time. they already avoided it a few years back from getting an award, I think. Very proud of them :)
btw bts as a whole has made it very clear that they want to serve, and each of the members is very adamant about serving their country! I just don’t want people who are not full. K-pop stands to think that they’re being fully forced into this as they are wanting to do it to some extent.
@@pzgamerch they could but it would be detrimental to them. Especially after this one kpop artist from the 2000s named "Steven yoo" claimed he would serve but when it got close to his time to serve he went to the US and got a US citizenship and didn't come back to Korea for years. When he came back to korea he was automatically detained and was banned from entering Korea again. He appealed the Korean government many times and made plenty of apology videos but the last I heard it was still no luck. The people don't believe he should be allowed to come back let alone the government
As an armyyyy although they are a big help to South Korea and rich (because they worked hard for it) they are no better than any regular person in my opinion and definitely in theirs too they are humble kings of course and chose to serve in the military.
Never really been a fan of BTS, but it is kinda nice to see them serving like normal people instead of finding a way out of it. I respect them for not wanting to get out of it, especially right now when global tensions are super high.
I understand your point but the meaning here is that these people help the country of SK , They help the economy (and that will benefit everyone in SK) and spread their culture It's just like how athlete's don't serve + M.D. And University students (they serve after university)
If it’s economical, should we excuse people for it? If a CEO of a company does a fraud, but is important to the economy, should we prosecute the guy? It’s more about the principle than what is beneficial
@@thomaschang3042 that's exactly what happens. What you have said is exactly how the world works. The government ignores the evil is it brings in more profit then loss.
I think BTS still wanting to do the service was a way to set an example for others. The message is: “We are proud to be Korean. Because pf that we will fulfill our obligations to the state like the everyman and not use our fame to get out of our responsibilities.” To be honest, I think it speaks volumes.
Or they have no choice cos Koreans why judge them or cancel them and say sh.t about them not been worthy Forgetting how much they make for d said county's economy 🤔
The government did step in but BTS said that they wanted to be like normal people (men) and that they wanted to serve in the military like normal people and that they didnt want to avoid it.Right now Jin and Jhope are in the military and armys cannot wait for all of them to come back with a bang and armys are also wishing the two members who are in military service right now for good health and for good mental health too we also are missing them very much .
Ahhh i just asked a question and youve answered it! I thought id heard that they were not all going to serve at the same time so the music can go on .. I hope they all have a good service 💐
i miss them so much but i know they are probably feeling really empowered atm being able to serve like they always said and to also the other tannies doing their solo activities and all the rest they are getting before they go. i cant wait to see them all together after enlistment 💜 i hope they get to rest before their comeback too tho
Mandatory army service is the most useless waste of time in existence. You can't really force people to take in something they don't want to take in as adults. They would be useless as soldiers, they forget everything within the next year. I also live in a country with mandatory military service.
@@minartson if you practically live at the door-step of thug criminal who keeps throwing knife at your house , you dont have any choice but to learn some taekwondo.
@@benkem7584 nah bigbang was big but not bts level big. i don’t think u understand the level of fandom bts controls. i don’t care much for bts but the level of fandom is probably the biggest in the world
If they don't serve, they run the risk of negative publicity for being "unpatriotic" as was the case for K-pop stars like Yoo Seung Jun and FlytotheSky during the late 90s and early aughts, among others. They received such viciously negative feedback that it nearly ruined their careers. Luckily, FTTS pushed through without repercussions, but YSJ didn't fare so well...😰
I don't know the regulations in South Korea, but I believe both were/are US citizens born to South Korean nationals who were living in the US as green card holders, so they were automatically dual citizens, whereas BTS are purely South Korean nationals. I think the issue with the US-born K-Pop entertainers was that they should have served since they derived their dual nationality status via South Korean national parents, and hold South Korean passports, are male, and make a successful living there.
@@XXXTENTAClON227i never said they make money just cause of bts. i said they have a great impact on sk's economy considering that they're, in theory, just a boy band. so much so that they contribute more to sk's economy than Google and apple COMBINED
"why didn't they step in" lmao! the government has been holding conferences and conducting studies about bts' exemption for YEARS! for years THEY made it this controversial thing, the bts members said multiple times over the years that they will serve when they will be called upon/when the timing is right. they have been subject to so much hate and criticism, because the government kept talking about it like it's a controversy. at the end BTS decided the timing for themselves, like every other korean able bodied man. I am so proud of them and am excited for what's to come!
It's a short. He probably didn't do extensive research since it's meant to be an attention grabbing piece anyway. Hell I'm into kpop but I didn't follow this either. Don't really care about BTS.
@@adrenalice7827 that's fair, I guess I provided additional info then! a lot of people are talking about this topic and I think this information is important to understand it. If you don't care about bts that's fine, I care a lot about them, therefore I want people to understand the whole picture of the situation
I doubt it but if they did choose it was out of fear, the country will go nuts if bts doesn't serve but yet every single man is FORCED TO, there was a K-pop singer years ago who was, black listed, ostracized and ran out Korea, they don't want to bring dishonour.
@@cosmiccrush22 BTS shouldn't be exempted cause they're famous. It would makes sense if they got shamed because everyone -whether or not famous- should have the same rules. Although ofc it's wrong to hate on anyone and ppl should state the facts or their opinions nicely.
They've always wanted to go and was ready for it since 3-4 years ago. Even older fans had been ready for it. Their plans have always been derailed by the government until they finally had enough and said they're going despite there were no calls made from the government
@@cosmiccrush22 actually he renounced his citizenship to avoid enlistment and claimed himself as a US citizen and left the country, that's what the black list was about. SK really said, fine if you don't want to admit yourself as our citizen then better not think about coming back here. The guy had since apologized but the government still refuses to allow him to return cause he ridiculed the mandatory enlistment
The government did step in. “They have already served South Korea enough.” The government did try. But BTS wanted to serve their country through mandatory training, BTS only wanted to follow what their country is doing. No one is wrong. And they probably need rest too.
@@bluijay4204 I imagine non-stop practicing dance routines for years at a time would make something like basic training fairly easy. dancing is very strenuous.
for anyone who didn't know, the korean govt actually did say that BTS could be excused from military service due to their impact on the korean economy. however, the members themselves said that they would like to serve anyway.
@@konekokoi22 I don't remember reading it exactly like that, just that the government was giving them exentions in hopes of figuring something out till them. The government has even asked the publics opinion on it and the citizens of Korea were split on the decision. So it seemed the government was too scared of the backlash to even make a decision. It's a good thing BTS has decided on their own.
They were actually given a choice. BTS members chose to do their service military. They did not want to be any different from the normal men serving. That was actually pretty noble of them.
Actually, almost no k-pop bot band can recover after serving in the military. They try but it doesn’t happen. Or they try solo careers that never work as successfully as the better times of the band.
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316nah not really, artists with impact like BTS which isn't limited to music only but goes beyond limits come in a while and i promise you they aren't losing anything at all
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316Agreed. I'm their fan too so I certainly for their best as well, but it's an inevitable thing to lose popularity as a celeb
What a false equivalence, don't try to make it look like it's the same thing. Mandatory military service can completely ruin a person's career, it's not like members of BTS killed people and are trying to find loopholes to get out of the situation, they're simply artists that have to stop doing what they want to do with their life in order to do something they don't want to do. I understand that, due to North Korea circumstances, it's somehow necessary to have people serve the army, even if it against their will, but that doesn't make it fair for the people of South Korea.
Unironically I think being a soldier during peacetime might be less stressful than being a part of the kpop industry. Maybe they just want to take a break.
North Korea and South Korea are like in height tensions since decades ago because of NK testing on Japan and US/SK responding to that. So not necessarily peace times. Not to mention all time high tension between US/West vs Russia/China/NK/Iran
In a way yes and no. Soldiers get every action of theirs spelled out in a routine. I’m guessing it’s similar to the life of a Korean idol, except without the rabid fans.
Technically South and North Korea are still at war because a peace treaty agreement has never been signed. Moreover, when your neighbours possess nuclear weapons, so close to your borders, they will always go to be tension.
@@goodisgood153 it was recently explained in detail by this same channel.... South Korea is not worried about North Korea. Tensions are high between the ignorant in the US and North Korea. For those living next door to North Korea for the last half century, life is normal and nobody is concerned about the regularly scheduled drama. It doesn't require much effort to plot a timeline of the past actions and reliably predict the future temper tantrums of the North. Only the uninformed are concerned. That is why Korea has been the most coveted duty assignment in the US Army for many years. It is safer than being in the US conducting routine training and it pays extra for hazard pay.
@@buffpathfinder3607 they will probbaly do less work in the military and be better fed honestly...K pop groups are treated worse than soilders in basic training with how much practice they have and how little food they are allowed.
@@vianjelos sorry u are right but BTS was never some typical kpop band , they have the rights to take every descision in their music ,schedules, life everything. If BTS was some typical kpop group they would never be allowed to take decision by themselves, it will be on the hands of govt and their record label
Dont worry buddy we're not giving up! Aka they going to sell a lot while being gone lol. also they did exempt them in a way, they made it so that bts could do their service in their thirties, bts just decided to go together in their own time instead of waiting for the military to call them up.
Imagine N Korea starts war with S Korean when all BTS members are in military and they all be like ..... Life is Dynamite yeah aayyy and N Korea with its missiles be like yeah and here's your Blood sweat and tears 😭😂
Well the government did try but they had been arguing about it for years and now BTS took it into there own hands because they had enough of the government and said that they were going to serve the time they had too.
BTS has always said they would serve when time came bc it’s their duty as citizens of SKR. The government kept going back and forth for years teasing a possible exemption and holding it over their heads. Everyone was talking about it except bts themselves. Even right up to the announcement that they would enlist, the govt was talking about if BTS was influential enough to be exempted; even after all they’ve done. They probably got tired of the “teasing” and that’s why they decided to announce the enlistment themselves. Which I think it was a good choice.
It's more of a nationalistic reason rather than economic. The "celebrity" division in military was also really controversial due to some scandals (i.e. getting a prostitute, skipping off the duty time, etc etc), which highlights the inequality of treatment within the military. The common people are already furious enough of chaebol families skipping the military duty through those loopholes. So, why would they think that entitled young entertainers like BTS must be exempted from the military? Therefore, it would be a huge political crisis for the current gov't if they support the exemption for BTS. It already caused some PR troubles for some MPs a year ago for supporting the exemption for BTS. So, they must be really wary now.
Because there are other entertainers that have gotten exemptions before - people such as athletes and classical musicians - so it actually wouldn't have been a stretch at all for BTS to receive one as well, considering that contributed much more both economically and sociopolitically than those other people. But that's frankly irrelevant; BTS has always wanted to fulfill their duty regardless of what anyone else wanted from them
@@raerohan4241 emmmm, no they're not celeb entertainers etc etc. It's indeed a quite conservative way of thinking which is what South Korea is in general.
They didn’t because they want to set an example. I think some members even said it themselves. They should fulfill their duties just like everybody else.
Bts themselves said they were going to the military on their decision since the government was just taking too long to decide so they took it into their own hands. The government wanted to wait until after the busan concert to see their influence to decide but right after the busan concert, bts themselves declared they would be going.
BTS has a LOT of pre filmed work that they will most likely pot when majority of the members are in the military. since they are going one at a time not all at once, they have solo work they can release and still bring in that revenue. A lot ARMYs support the members even if it’s just one of them. You don’t need to worry about korea losing money.
Anyone in the military cannot get paid for any outside work. How much does the military pay. I heard it was almost nothing and even the government has said they should do better.
for anyone curious, three members have enlisted so far. the oldest member has gotten an early promotion to corporal because of how good his performance is, the second has been promoted to an assistant trainer for new soldiers who enter his unit, and the other entered public service 2 days ago because of a long-time shoulder injury.
@@alexlehrersh9951since the beginning of BTS they were learning a lot of discipline. They also have strict excercises. Jimin has trained over 8 years in Taekwondo (black belt) and Kendo. They are extremely good at sports. Have you seen their dance practices? Of course they will be good in the military.
They worked very hard to get those positions so please don’t question if it’s really their performance and not publicity. They are fantastic role models!
@@alexlehrersh9951Jin has always been extremely fit, strong, disciplined and his core strength is insane. He also has a black belt in Taekwondo. Everyone in the army is awed by how good he is.
The members will still make solo content , I know it’s not the same as group stuff but they will have staggered enlistments so they can do their solo projects. I also believe that many ARMYs aren’t just fans of BTS so they will still support other artists they like. It will feel like a long time from this pov but it will go by quickly.
Because the member openly talks about how they want to retire,since most of them are introverted,and they want to go to the military,the government can help them if BTS wanted to,but they want to serve in military,they probably comeback with a few songs and retire,they deserve to start a family or smth,my guess is Jungkook can work himself as a soloist,while the others are pursuing other things..
When did they say the wanted to retire?? They literally just said they want to be BTS for the next 20 or more years so Army should stay with them.... Where did you get that misconception from?
Anyone remember Heung min Son's close call with mandatory military service in Korea? He was a couple months away from his mandatory service, but thankfully due to a loophole in Korean law which allowed sports people who had won a major accolade would be awarded a "pass" on their military service due to their sporting achievements and for promoting Korean sports and culture. The guy was playing inthe champions league, the premier league, and had played football in Germany also, he's a super star in korea, and even with all of that he was still set to serve for the military....if it wasn't for the Asian games .. S Korea won the Asian games literally months before his service...lucky lucky boy.
it also would be very domestically unpopular for BTS to skip the draft. In general, it seems like members of the Korean public see the mandatory military service as one’s responsibility and duty, and want them to serve like any other Korean male
Watch part 2: Why BTS Have to Serve in the Military
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Mmmh somebody looks happier
I think the Korean people could probably survive without K-pop.
But North Korea rule would probably bring the death millions since most South Koreans hate the North Korean government anyways and you know what they do to dissenters in North Korea.
Personally it seems unethical to let a few people escape draft because their rich even if it's because they worked hard
actually the govt did step in and held a lot of meetings in terms of exempting bts from the military (ofc due to the money they’re bringing) even tho bts themselves didn’t asked for the exemption. It’s also the reason why the oldest member of bts couldn’t go for a long time.
Those saying it's making an example make no sense.
So many people get exemptions for doing less than what BTS have done. It wasn't fair, and it has never been about fairness. If BTS don't deserve an exemption, NOBODY does.
The South Korean government is probably trying to set an example through this. BTS might not be making propaganda but simply the act of them serving the same as any other male itself sends a strong message to South Korea's citizens.
that they can't escape the condemnation?
It is propaganda
In India we die to server in military.
But still can't find a job in military.
Hope I was born in a less populated country.
I want to serve my army.
@@tanya8455 I think the US army accepts foreigners
Why not go there
Actually, BTS decided to go exactly to take the power of the decision away from the SK government. The gov had been debating their exemption since 2018/2019 and they always wanted to see more of BTS' impact, saying they were gonna decide after the boys had done enough for their country (even though they are the biggest artists South Korea has even seen coming from there). So they just got tired of being used as pawns and announced they were going without even giving a warning to the government beforehand. More so because they never said they wouldn't go, they never asked for exemption, the only thing they've always said about the topic was "we will go when called upon", so the whole discourse only got them hated for absolutely no reason.
But yes, I agree with you, they will be used as propaganda even if they don't want to and it does send a strong message to everyone, even though not a positive one for South Korea.
The government has spent this entire year arguing back and forth on whether the group should be exempt or not. BTS then took it upon themselves to announce at the end of their concert in Busan that they will all be enlisting starting with the oldest member Jin. The enlistment period is 18 months, they will reunite in 2025
Unless they die in a war hopefully
Had a feeling this was the case
Now THAT'S what men are.
So they let it go on, and when they noticed it wasn’t gonna work out for them then they tried to act like the bigger person and say “we will go”? wouldn’t say that is taking it upon them selves but sure is a good to see they aren’t any different than anyone else.
@@arnowisp6244 no, this is basically done for PR. The government definitely was enlisting them, but BTS stating that they would be enlisting is done to increase their fanbase and respect for the individuals. Had they actually wanted to enlist, there would be no discussion, they would have done it at the beginning but after all this time, them stating it increases the people's respect for them. it's all PR.
The government actually did postpone their service by a couple of years. I believe one member, Jin, was supposed to go in 2020 but was given an extension. I think it's a move for BTS to set an example and also because BTS actually may want to serve their country.
I think Jin was given an extension cuz of the fans... winning btw artist of the year and so many votes for them I think.
Anyone can get an extension until they are 30
Pretty sure it was postponed bc the government officials were deciding whether or not they should exempt them and bts got tired of waiting
@Herpiesaestus we saved them you should thank us
"Serve their country" 🤡🤡🤡
Korean here.
1. It's actually 1.5 years (18 months).
2. Things did not go well for celebrities who evaded service (ex. Steven Yoo - got U.S. citizenship, banned from entering Korea for more than 20 years)
3. All things are based on law. The government cannot exempt certain people from military service without any legal reason. There is currently no law to exempt KPOP stars from military service despite their popularity. On the otherhand, there are laws that provide exemption to sports stars who have won medals in international games. Current discussions are focused more on scrapping this law favoring sports stars, not the other way around.
4. They would probably bring Korea more money than any other celebrities combined while they're all in the military.
5. Unless they're sent to the border (which is highly unlikely), things are not bad inside the barracks, especially when they are BTS.
6. Celebrities who completed service have maintained their fame, as will BTS for sure.
It's kinda unfair that Olympic medalist are exempted from military bcs bts have brought more glory to sk. But glad they didn't exempt. They showed a big example that you should be lawful to ur country eventho ur privileged or talented
@@Jimocho531 nah I find it more fair that an athlete gets exempted than a pop star lol
@@Romy--- explain why?
@@Jimocho531 One of them is something to be proud of while the other is brainrot
Real Korean here everything on this comment is made up
“Light them up like dynamite” 💀
🤣
Lmao ...based FBI
Lol that make sense
*boom boom boom*
broo 💀
Now they become the army 😭
Oh shit
Lmao 😭
Oh fuck
Damn damn damn damn!!
Oh damn-
You know they’re gonna be singing in the battlefield for morale
It would be kind of funny if they staged an impromptu concert with a bunch of North Koreans in the DMZ.
LMAO 💀
@@alexanderfretheim5720 immediate death for all participants 😂😭😭
If they sing they would only lower the levels of morale
@@charlesleethesonandfathero14 go listen to Olivia or something 🤡
BTS doesn't want exemption because they have said countless times they are proud Korean citizens and they will serve their country.
Yeah, I was wondering why he didn't bring this up. They're citizens of Korea and they don't care if they can stay or not. Going through this process is a requirement, but it's also something they're proud to do.
“SEND HELP, BACKUP- ANYTHING. I JUST GOT CLAPPED BY THE RAP MONSTER”
Russian soldier
I will drink my bottle of vodka and beat the shit out of this rap guy 🤣
LMAO 💀
I'M WHEEZING
“QUICK SEND THEM IN FAST!”
*”Umm, john, it uh..it seems that all of the reinforcements got the ‘rapping disease..?
“THE-THE WHAT?!??”
💀💀😭
"We are bulletproof" literally lol
Damn, they better be 💀
They gonna be bald and not wear makeup so yeah
@Lanes Just because you hate them doesn't mean that they should die. All lives matter. Even yours. I hate you yet I'm not saying "get hit by North Korea's nukes". You really must be five years old to say this stuff
(In battlefeild)
"Get them!! Theyre over there!!!"
Bts:Light them up like dynamite 🔥💥☄️
Lmao💀
@@God-xx9dw make them die please god
@@SSG_Microwave your usernamee seems valid... Eh sure why not ill speed up the processing, you guys make your self extinc
Very original
Fireee🧨🔥🔥🔥🔥
I can just imagine them coming back after 2 years and being totally jacked 😂
That's what I was thinking too lol.
Once they finish their service, they won't be the same anymore.
They’ve actually been doing fitness for a long time now and some members actually already have quite impressive composition
I cant...super beta
The SK government tried to postponed their enlistment as long as they can, but the members already said they will do their responsibility as SK men, they already do their health check up for the enlistment program far back then, someone met the leader RM when he do the health check up in 2016/2017 when they weren’t as big as now. But because of the government are afraid to lose their income, the BTS and BigHit entertainment got hate from South Korean men because they thought the members tried to avoid doing their service.
This is completely wrong and here's why. Hybe has actually tried to exempt their enlistment by submitting tons of documentation of their contributions to their country (Jin recently got his back since he was going anyway). BTS has always said they would do the military service and never they want to do it. No one in their right mind would want to put their very successful careers on hold to do unnecessary stuff. The current president of SK along with various Chaebol (rich families) sons have gotten exemption even without doing absolutely nothing for their country while BTS brings in Billions yearly, directly. I don't remember the name but this one footballer was exempted bc he was able to get a goal medal and if we follow the same reasoning BTS should be given the same exemption. The whole reason BTS are going now is bc Jin is going to be 30 and since the government isn't going to help they have nothing else to do. Cuz be serious if there's a war I'm pretty sure BTS won't be sent to the front lines immediately.
yes good choice finally the stupid fans will have the time to do a brain check
@@jennakimjeon8446 Son Heung-min was exempted because he won gold at the Asian Games. He would have got exemption in 2014 if his club (Bayer Leverkusen) had released him however they were under no obligation as the Asian Games are not FIFA affiliated.
Fortunately Spurs let him go the 2018 games and he won it that year.
@Everardo Olide that some real shot right there
@@Adaml1903 nah, he was still drafted. Only a few months.
BTS would have started their military service a while ago if the government hadn’t postponed it. But the members themselves now feel like it’s a part of their duty to go so it won’t be postponed for much longer now. Also there are other Korean celebrities who have finished their military service and continue to do so, so it only feels fair that BTS goes as well.
Well and the geopolitical situation in that region is heating up right now, so this is probably when South Korea really needs them.
But there have not been another group that had brought so much exposure or money to the country’s economy like BTS. Lety also remember that athletes and classical musicians amongst others have gotten exemptions without doing not nearly as much as BTS
@@Crisfer05 Also the president of SK, and sons of politicians and even politicians themselves
@@Crisfer05 so if they r huge economical benefit to the society they shouldn’t go to military? So any big corporate owner shouldn’t go r? And athletes get circumstantial dodge cuz they r literally playing for their country, not for commercial good. You clearly don’t have any understanding of the recruitment system in Korea, so stfu. U r literally classing humans
POV: it’s ww3 and there’s 7 bulletproof men dancing and singing distracting the enemy
Light ✨ them 🧨 up 🔥 like 🕺🏻 dynamite 💥
Bring the heavy artillery
Like 👍🏻 a criminal💂🏻♀️undercover💀💜
This would make them frustrated and they will nuke whole south korea
Bro is unironically saying that the rich should have more rights than the common man
No hes saying they can do more for their country entertaining than serving
@@ryboodle”serve their country” “by making k pop”
@vladimirrashkovsky6274 yes exactly. Someone who makes 3.7 billion is worth a lot more by making that money, and not just another solider on the battlefield. It doesnt matter how they do it if they make it.
@@hmmm-hr7vmso if north and south are in war again, are the government gonna use those money to hire armies from another country to fight for your country AGAIN?
@@vladimirrashkovsky6274yes, just as Betty Grable & Rita Hayworth served America in World War 2 as pin up girls to boost troops morale.
Y’all BTS has been very clear that they WANT to serve. Like the gov. obviously doesn’t want them too bc of how much money they make but Jin said himself that he wants to enlist just like every other male.
Yo same gotra cheers 🍻. We got some hot ass Brahmin guys over here, why you following bts? You ugly?
@@wetoddedd I think it’s because he doesn’t want to get out of it just because he’s famous.
K(orona virus)pop
They gonna die in the most hilarious deaths
This could be a huge break for them, and the come back could be massive also, who knows, and we all know what happened to celebrities who refuse to serve in the Korean military.
Junkook bout to come back from the military with BTSD 💀
They gonna put on BTS music to fight
Lmao.
He can't stay away from them lmao😭
Tf you on
HAHAHHAHAHA!!!!
Is this the BTS ARMY everyone is talking about? :D
Yo, where my army at!
SK took it literally
Türkiyede baya bir Fanı vardıda ben hiç milyar dolar değerinde bir grup olduklarıni sanmıyorun, şaka maka Güney Korenin Milyar dolarlık kazançlarından birinin sebebi Dünyadaki Ergen kızlar.olması harbi nasıl bir iştir
G DRAGON KING .
Bts army means thier fandom name
I think this is wholesome, because this means that BTS members aren’t trying to put themselves higher than the average citizen, and they are serving their country😊😊😊
Im glad the members themselves wanna go. But i just wanna point out that they are not going there all at the same time. They will be going by oldest to youngest. Which means the oldest member (jin) whos 30 will be going first and im pretty sure suga (2nd oldest) is going with him at the same time. I hope they dont have a hard time as k-artists have complained about their time in the military due to people knowing them there
Some of the members of day6 are currently serving and the lead love interest for extraordinary attorney woo is serving as well, I don’t think they’re going to have a hard time because they are respected celebrities in the country. Just think of when Elvis or Johnny Cash served (tho Elvis got a hell of a lot of special treatment but u get what I mean)
@@blubber9047 Since their celebrities it could be hard since people know them. Korean artist complain that everyone would look at them while they were showering
Yeah this is the weirdest thing. Wouldn’t it be smarter to send them at the same time so that they can reunite as fast as possible?
@@richardmangelmann4975 i guess so, but the company said they will all release solo songs
@@richardmangelmann4975 i disagree. And agree at the same time. The members probably want to reunite as fast as possible but the company will have a hard time. Despite their company having alot of big groups.
Newjeans(seen as monster rookies recently with their song hype boy trending) txt(currently the 2nd most famous group in kpop 4th generation ) and seventeen, i dont know much about them but they are one of the biggest kpop groups.
But bts is definitely the reason why they have so much money. Their company went bankrupt until bts went viral. They stated that the members will have solo projects. Like solo songs. And honestly i think the members might do some acting (mostly Taehyung)
Good luck to them, i hope that bts leaves their company and finds a better one. Their company has been doing everything to get all the money from bts.
Sometimes it not about the money. Sometimes it's about sending a message.
Yes people need to understand that this is a PR move by Hybe to show the members as loyal and patriotic citizens, who are just like every other Korean man
What do you expect this YTber is American.
Waltuh
@@migukmystic3940 How is it a PR move to do something that is legally required? Jin already postponed his enlistment because of the Busan concert and went in during a worse season because of it. The others have enlisted at the relatively same time because it makes sense for them to have as small of a window of inactivity as possible. Just because most other idol groups don't value the group enough to enlist earlier than mandatory does not mean it's not the best strategy. It's just that in most groups they prioritise personal gain over the whole. I'm not saying it's wrong, just that BTS has always put the group first and they continue to do so. Also, this was a no-win situation for them. If they got exempted and didn't enlist they would not hear the end of it for the rest of their lives even though people at the top of their fields in other artistic and sports-related areas have exceptions made.
This brings Army to a whole another level
IM ☠️😭😂
BTS army nah they becoming a 7 man army 💀
"Light them up like dynamite" 💀💀💀💀
When your neighbor is North Korea you got no choice
leader RM once said that they're still citizen first before being BTS, so they will still serve as a citizen of South Korea
Ok then why Men only feminazi
Are women not citizens ?
Stupid. They should work to change the laws and make things better in South Korea, they have the power to do so.
The possibility of an exemption has been under study for years at this point, which is why it's been delayed for so long (Jin, the oldest member, is way past the normal age for people to enroll). I'm fairly sure both their company and the South Korean government were pushing for an exemption, for obvious financial reasons. However the BTS members themselves stated again and again that they wanted to serve like anyone else and that it was important to them.
You def do not understand korea
They said they will serve IF called. They never said even if given the option, they will still choose serving. I mean they became idols and are passionate about their job and would cry if they felt they haven't given their all on stage. They should have been soldiers from the start, not idols, if they like serving he military so much
No, they will serve in the military because a lot of people will judge them if they would not go. There was a poll made in Korea where more than 50% of people taught that they should go ( sadly).
BigHit and BTS themselves did not ask for exemption. They got brought up and granted delay by the govt bc of their Cultural Merit award, but KOMCA and other companies used them as basis towards negotiating for exemption for their own idols. BigHit and BTS themselves were not part of these talks, and the govt essentially dragged this out so BigHit and BTS just went ahead and decided for themselves instead of just being used for this exemption debate that the sk govt had no intentions to actually enact.
I mean Jin and Suga would’ve already been served if they went to the military at the age of a normal Korean citizen who would’ve served.
The reason why they remove the "entertainer/service" is to make sure there is a sense of "equality" when it comes to who's serving, that all are subjected to serve without exemption. If they roll this back for BTS, then they would have to do the same for the other bands that got enlisted too. The backlashes would be too much.
I doubt that the backlash would be more than 10+ Billion dollars?
@@geraskatinas1846 in long terms, maybe
G DRAGON KING
They did roll it back for their national team (football)
Yeah, but that’s a load of crap. The video even mentions that plenty of other Korean celebs and important men have gotten out of doing service through various loopholes.
SK Government acting innocent: “Why are more people joining the military?”
BTS: 🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺
Bts memebers themselves want to serve in the military. They said they didn't want to skip this as it's a important part of man in sk
U know what a 360 contract is. Bts is In a worse one.
there is absolutely nothing beneficial to serving in the korean military. What are they gonna do for two years? do drills and run laps....
They NEVER said that. They said they will serve when called.
@@TheTwil1 I keep seeing that comment being repeated over and over in comment sections, so I just ran with it (I don't keep up with celebrities so)
sk
“cuz im gonna blow it up like dynamite!”
You didn’t 💀💀
Yoo it's the couple rammer!
Lmao
I juST CAN'T-
😂 laughed so hard I choked
As once said by a wise Man, "it's not about the money, it's about sending a message".
They were trying to make them serve for a decade already, rich men rule the world, they will not serve
wat
The Joker 😂
Jacob Alpharad
👍👍
Say what you will about BTS, their comeback is gonna be crazy
Fr
@@X.Enhypen.Xit probably will be better gor me when their music doesnt come out for a couple of years
No its not
No people will move on. Kids will grow up.
Just wait you all
"So why you going the army kid?"
"Because I want to meet BTS"
*BRUH 🗿💀*
not every army is kid lol
most consist of age 20-30, 30-40 years
teenage fandom in bts consist of only 20%
@@adwaitadwait9785 He meant the South Korean Army
@@adwaitadwait9785 the pie graph show something else 50% teens and 82% females🙂
@@TayT300 That's what he was trying to say, most men in the ROKA are mostly 18-20 year olds.
@average maratha empire enjoyer he has information im a male ARMY too.
The boys always said that no matter what they would serve because they feel it's important to their culture and their fans.
Lol what culture
@@guillaumeprince7332 Are you saying Korea doesn't have a culture? Are you stupid or just racist?
What Fk Are you talking about when did serving in the military considered being cultural?
See this is why i consider these kind of shit stupid cuz fans of these bands come up stupid Shit like u just said now
@@guillaumeprince7332 south korean culture
So Chinese and American culture?
They're going to be doing admin work no doubt. G-Dragon said that other guys were watching him shower and ogling his bits, and he had to be moved to another unit to finish his service. BTS will be protected while they serve.
I never knew this about GD. That’s terrible. But if BTS was to get protection from this, people would probably think they are getting special treatment.
@@sab-nm9di GD service were a mess, a fellow soldier that is in the same unit with him kept a tab about his body, write stuff like tattoos, scars, mole and share this info to his girlfriend. He also suffers from big injuries and had to be hospitalized and people were witchhunting him accused GD of receiving special treatment. The Military had to give out a statement over and over again that he is using holidays properly like any normal citizens. The rumor of special treatment were blown off, because the harassment and stalkerish behaviour he received prompt the military to move him away + he was hospitalized.
@@sab-nm9di they deserve special treatment and safety
@@yoonology
No they don't lmao.
@@lennyjenkins9931 would you enjoy being treated like GD when he is in the military?
As a South Korean, I'd say South Koreans' number 1 value is "fairness". If a man has to serve for the army, he has to do. No matter how rich he is, how famous he is, his background, his connections, his family power, etc. the law is there for everyone to follow, and it's as simple as that.
Imagine coming back from the war and getting BTSD
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Yeah😂😂
what war?
Aight. You got me. God damn it you got me. 😂
Imagine only 3 returns 😅😅😅😂😂😂
*"Jin hyung look at these bullet! they're smooth like butter!"*
Also jin, hyung look there is a criminal in undercover over there
@@Itsamyths painfully unfunny
@@clibothy thanks I ain't funny at all
@@Itsamyths 💀
@@clibothy kinda funny come on 🤷🏻♀️
The government actually tried. They were talking to them, and BTS decided they ultimately wanted to follow through with it
Which is definitely for the best
they didn't tried, they were using bts and not doing anything for them
that is not what happened, sorry
They did but BTS said they wanted to do it and they think it's an honor.
This reason is because military is one of the biggest honors in korea that is why so many women do it to and BTS feel like it is an honor that they can't turn down
While I'm absolutely not in favour of mandatory military service, I also don't think there should be exceptions for rich and/or famous people.
Imagine being a badass russian soldier who’s trained all his life for war and you get sniped by Jimin
then jimin start dancing in front of you while you're suffering from bleeding and he starts singing fake love 💀💀
Then you're not so badass after all 💀
“My favorite part of the war was when Jimin Fortnite danced on his grave” - a war veteran
They won't be doing active duty lol
@@theonewhoasked9520 Even the Russian guy dies he is still more badass than BTS
They’re doing their civic duty and setting an example when other idols haven’t. and now they’re on hiatus, I think this is the best time. they already avoided it a few years back from getting an award, I think.
Very proud of them :)
You know it's them in the war when you hear "Ni-- ney Ni--- ney ney NI---A NIG-- NEY"
@@maven9323 That's not even a BTS song bro 💀
cute soldiers with colored hair
@@laupatual7137 no shit sherlock
@@maven9323 Saying "No sh*t sherlock" doesn't prove anything lmao could've at least did a quick google search to make the joke a tad bit funny.
btw bts as a whole has made it very clear that they want to serve, and each of the members is very adamant about serving their country! I just don’t want people who are not full. K-pop stands to think that they’re being fully forced into this as they are wanting to do it to some extent.
But like.. can they even say they don't want too? Even tho I don't know them. Being that popular and the face of Korea you can't just say no.
Also it’s really unfair to come up with an exemption while equally popular and famous groups continue to go
Right
What else they should say? It's not like they had another option
@@pzgamerch they could but it would be detrimental to them. Especially after this one kpop artist from the 2000s named "Steven yoo" claimed he would serve but when it got close to his time to serve he went to the US and got a US citizenship and didn't come back to Korea for years. When he came back to korea he was automatically detained and was banned from entering Korea again. He appealed the Korean government many times and made plenty of apology videos but the last I heard it was still no luck. The people don't believe he should be allowed to come back let alone the government
As an armyyyy although they are a big help to South Korea and rich (because they worked hard for it) they are no better than any regular person in my opinion and definitely in theirs too they are humble kings of course and chose to serve in the military.
Never really been a fan of BTS, but it is kinda nice to see them serving like normal people instead of finding a way out of it. I respect them for not wanting to get out of it, especially right now when global tensions are super high.
So you support males being forced to fight in the military but not females 🤔?
Well south korean women get a free pass
That is how business work
It's probably there managers plan
The global tensions are at there least in 2000 years of history.
@@erica8332 I'm sure they will be also enlisted when men start to give birth. Trying to start gender drama here, are you?
Nobody should get special treatment because of money or fame. Unfortunately, it happens way too often. Props to South Korea
I understand your point but the meaning here is that these people help the country of SK
, They help the economy (and that will benefit everyone in SK) and spread their culture
It's just like how athlete's don't serve + M.D.
And University students (they serve after university)
If it’s economical, should we excuse people for it? If a CEO of a company does a fraud, but is important to the economy, should we prosecute the guy? It’s more about the principle than what is beneficial
@@thomaschang3042 that's exactly what happens. What you have said is exactly how the world works. The government ignores the evil is it brings in more profit then loss.
@@abdooman1556 and? Bts said they would serve even if they are given the chance of exemption
Bruh nobody should ever be forced to serve, smh. It's an old af cultural ideal
I can’t imagine dying in battle just to see in my last moments guys singing and dancing in front of me 😂
man gonna t bag you with style
😢dynamite
🤣🤣🤣🤣 those fruit cakes ever went into actual battle they're dead on the spot 🤡
Hey bro that's not cool. Battling isn't that easy.
I'd die 😭😂
Whenever i go through immigration i always say i am here for bts
I think BTS still wanting to do the service was a way to set an example for others. The message is: “We are proud to be Korean. Because pf that we will fulfill our obligations to the state like the everyman and not use our fame to get out of our responsibilities.” To be honest, I think it speaks volumes.
So in other words… propaganda?
@@bennynagon9322depends on how you see it, everything is a propaganda in someways
Respect from 🇮🇳
Or they have no choice cos Koreans why judge them or cancel them and say sh.t about them not been worthy Forgetting how much they make for d said county's economy 🤔
that is weirdly dystopian
“Run bulletproof run yeah you got it run” 💀
HELP
*gotta
😂😭😭😭😭
@@pratibhaaa7265 it's got it*
The government did step in but BTS said that they wanted to be like normal people (men) and that they wanted to serve in the military like normal people and that they didnt want to avoid it.Right now Jin and Jhope are in the military and armys cannot wait for all of them to come back with a bang and armys are also wishing the two members who are in military service right now for good health and for good mental health too we also are missing them very much .
Ahhh i just asked a question and youve answered it! I thought id heard that they were not all going to serve at the same time so the music can go on .. I hope they all have a good service 💐
i miss them so much but i know they are probably feeling really empowered atm being able to serve like they always said and to also the other tannies doing their solo activities and all the rest they are getting before they go. i cant wait to see them all together after enlistment 💜 i hope they get to rest before their comeback too tho
Oh
Elvis Presley did the same thing when he was drafted.
Honestly I respect them for that
Bro really thinks that the rich should be exempt from the law
“Why didn’t the South Korean government help BTS?”
North Korea shooting funny boom booms over japan with a smile:
Mandatory army service is the most useless waste of time in existence. You can't really force people to take in something they don't want to take in as adults. They would be useless as soldiers, they forget everything within the next year. I also live in a country with mandatory military service.
@@minartson if you practically live at the door-step of thug criminal who keeps throwing knife at your house , you dont have any choice but to learn some taekwondo.
@@minartson South Korea was obliged to do that or their army Will be a lot weak without mandatory army and they need a strong army for obvious reasons
@@minartsonif its not your country, then stfu
@@minartson this is the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen. My dad served in the mandatory army and still knows how to operate everything after 40 years
Their come back probably will be huge and much anticipated
till then they will be irrevelant anyway
@@benkem7584 hell no
Like Elvis
@@Your_local_MOA yes that is life of everysinger lol they will be like bigbang and every other
@@benkem7584 nah bigbang was big but not bts level big. i don’t think u understand the level of fandom bts controls. i don’t care much for bts but the level of fandom is probably the biggest in the world
Government would've delayed but, BTS choose to serve in the military...
And I thought the Japanese were the honor freaks.
REAL MEN
Imagine if you were in a battlefield all intense hoping you don’t die and just saw these blokes on the opposite side.
😂
Bayonet Charge!!
They are very athletic though and a few of them have studied martial arts.
If you underestimated them in the Battlefield, you deserved to be deleted and teabag by Jhope and Jimin.
@@crystalsnow1138it’s 2022 man, martial arts ain’t gonna do jack shit against rifles
If they don't serve, they run the risk of negative publicity for being "unpatriotic" as was the case for K-pop stars like Yoo Seung Jun and FlytotheSky during the late 90s and early aughts, among others. They received such viciously negative feedback that it nearly ruined their careers. Luckily, FTTS pushed through without repercussions, but YSJ didn't fare so well...😰
This ^^^
More so is that it won't be fair that they don't get to serve cuz they're rich and famous
I don't know the regulations in South Korea, but I believe both were/are US citizens born to South Korean nationals who were living in the US as green card holders, so they were automatically dual citizens, whereas BTS are purely South Korean nationals. I think the issue with the US-born K-Pop entertainers was that they should have served since they derived their dual nationality status via South Korean national parents, and hold South Korean passports, are male, and make a successful living there.
fan or not a fan we have to admit, the impact bts alone brings to sk's economy is HUGE
Yeah I'm shocked. I didn't know it was this big 🤯
Even myself as an army I didn’t knaur🤯
??? South Korea isn’t a microstate, they don’t make money because of BTS fans
@@XXXTENTAClON227i never said they make money just cause of bts. i said they have a great impact on sk's economy considering that they're, in theory, just a boy band. so much so that they contribute more to sk's economy than Google and apple COMBINED
"sk"
Fucking "sk"...
Dude, have some respect, just an ounce for a start.
Imagine you are fighting in war and 7 different hair color appear in bush hahaha
"why didn't they step in" lmao! the government has been holding conferences and conducting studies about bts' exemption for YEARS! for years THEY made it this controversial thing, the bts members said multiple times over the years that they will serve when they will be called upon/when the timing is right. they have been subject to so much hate and criticism, because the government kept talking about it like it's a controversy. at the end BTS decided the timing for themselves, like every other korean able bodied man. I am so proud of them and am excited for what's to come!
It's a short. He probably didn't do extensive research since it's meant to be an attention grabbing piece anyway. Hell I'm into kpop but I didn't follow this either. Don't really care about BTS.
@@adrenalice7827 that's fair, I guess I provided additional info then! a lot of people are talking about this topic and I think this information is important to understand it. If you don't care about bts that's fine, I care a lot about them, therefore I want people to understand the whole picture of the situation
War with north Korea and a loss of Korean pop industry.
@@liv87346 It’s more than okay to share what you know because it’s relevant. Please don’t feel hesitation.
G DRAGON KING .
BTS CHOSE to serve. The government kept going back and forth using them as billboards so they had enough and chose to enlist sooner.
I doubt it but if they did choose it was out of fear, the country will go nuts if bts doesn't serve but yet every single man is FORCED TO, there was a K-pop singer years ago who was, black listed, ostracized and ran out Korea, they don't want to bring dishonour.
@@cosmiccrush22 BTS shouldn't be exempted cause they're famous. It would makes sense if they got shamed because everyone -whether or not famous- should have the same rules. Although ofc it's wrong to hate on anyone and ppl should state the facts or their opinions nicely.
They've always wanted to go and was ready for it since 3-4 years ago. Even older fans had been ready for it. Their plans have always been derailed by the government until they finally had enough and said they're going despite there were no calls made from the government
Being in the army for korean men is not a CHOICE
@@cosmiccrush22 actually he renounced his citizenship to avoid enlistment and claimed himself as a US citizen and left the country, that's what the black list was about. SK really said, fine if you don't want to admit yourself as our citizen then better not think about coming back here. The guy had since apologized but the government still refuses to allow him to return cause he ridiculed the mandatory enlistment
The government did step in. “They have already served South Korea enough.” The government did try. But BTS wanted to serve their country through mandatory training, BTS only wanted to follow what their country is doing. No one is wrong. And they probably need rest too.
Just out of curiosity, how exactly is joining the military "rest" ?
@@bluijay4204 different kind of fatigue
@@bluijay4204 I imagine non-stop practicing dance routines for years at a time would make something like basic training fairly easy. dancing is very strenuous.
Rare bts w
@@bluijay4204 rest as in to take a break from the music industry, right
People love talking about patriarchy, but never wanna talk about mandatory service for something that can be life threatening during war times.
for anyone who didn't know, the korean govt actually did say that BTS could be excused from military service due to their impact on the korean economy. however, the members themselves said that they would like to serve anyway.
@@konekokoi22 I don't remember reading it exactly like that, just that the government was giving them exentions in hopes of figuring something out till them. The government has even asked the publics opinion on it and the citizens of Korea were split on the decision. So it seemed the government was too scared of the backlash to even make a decision. It's a good thing BTS has decided on their own.
They were actually given a choice. BTS members chose to do their service military. They did not want to be any different from the normal men serving. That was actually pretty noble of them.
Does it still count if they don’t get their hands blown off and watch their friends die?
Propaganda is always sweeter when it is voluntary
@@frozenrats do you know what military service is 😂
They’re going to go from $300,000 dollars a month to getting paid $1000 dollars a month 💀
@@frozenratsyou have no clue about the rest of the world so you
In the long run they're not losing anything, their music and merch will still sell pretty well and their return concert will make them a mint.
Actually, almost no k-pop bot band can recover after serving in the military. They try but it doesn’t happen. Or they try solo careers that never work as successfully as the better times of the band.
Same with every other band (like 1D) . Eventually they all lose popularity
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316nah not really, artists with impact like BTS which isn't limited to music only but goes beyond limits come in a while and i promise you they aren't losing anything at all
@@chickenisindeedmystyle7316Agreed. I'm their fan too so I certainly for their best as well, but it's an inevitable thing to lose popularity as a celeb
If we had BTS starring in South Korean military recuritment ads, that'd be awesome.
if im fighting in a world battle and i get shot to by jimin, i'd be flexing to my mates in heaven bro
Degenerate
He’d be dead before he got sent to the frontline 💀
Average koreaboo 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
lmaooo gworl we would be fighting with them not against them😂 (if you’re from the us)
@@adia990 wait why would the us go against south korea i thought they liked each other or something
"Rich people always find loopholes"
"Why can't the government help BTS?"
Bruh tell me you did not just contradict yourself in the same short 🤨
For real this guy is a clown for that
@@centralintelligenceagency9082 I think he made his point clear..
ya for real. people in south korea HATE HATE HATE people that renounce citizenship or find a bogus medical excuse to not serve.
BTS are self-made, not old money. When he said "rich people" he was referring to those people such as chaebol heirs and politicians' sons
What a false equivalence, don't try to make it look like it's the same thing. Mandatory military service can completely ruin a person's career, it's not like members of BTS killed people and are trying to find loopholes to get out of the situation, they're simply artists that have to stop doing what they want to do with their life in order to do something they don't want to do. I understand that, due to North Korea circumstances, it's somehow necessary to have people serve the army, even if it against their will, but that doesn't make it fair for the people of South Korea.
If they go, people have problems, if they don't go, people will still have problems.. we can't change people bro..
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. At least BTS made their own decision before letting the government use them again for political gains.
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Unironically I think being a soldier during peacetime might be less stressful than being a part of the kpop industry. Maybe they just want to take a break.
North Korea and South Korea are like in height tensions since decades ago because of NK testing on Japan and US/SK responding to that.
So not necessarily peace times.
Not to mention all time high tension between US/West vs Russia/China/NK/Iran
In a way yes and no. Soldiers get every action of theirs spelled out in a routine.
I’m guessing it’s similar to the life of a Korean idol, except without the rabid fans.
Technically South and North Korea are still at war because a peace treaty agreement has never been signed. Moreover, when your neighbours possess nuclear weapons, so close to your borders, they will always go to be tension.
@@goodisgood153 it was recently explained in detail by this same channel.... South Korea is not worried about North Korea. Tensions are high between the ignorant in the US and North Korea. For those living next door to North Korea for the last half century, life is normal and nobody is concerned about the regularly scheduled drama.
It doesn't require much effort to plot a timeline of the past actions and reliably predict the future temper tantrums of the North. Only the uninformed are concerned. That is why Korea has been the most coveted duty assignment in the US Army for many years. It is safer than being in the US conducting routine training and it pays extra for hazard pay.
Tbh if I was that famous i’d want a 2 year break too
It is not a break my friend
@@buffpathfinder3607 let me rephrase that, a break from being in the public eye all the time
@@buffpathfinder3607 they will probbaly do less work in the military and be better fed honestly...K pop groups are treated worse than soilders in basic training with how much practice they have and how little food they are allowed.
@@vianjelos well they will be work as equals at the military the producer will not able to interfere them
@@vianjelos sorry u are right but BTS was never some typical kpop band , they have the rights to take every descision in their music ,schedules, life everything. If BTS was some typical kpop group they would never be allowed to take decision by themselves, it will be on the hands of govt and their record label
Dont worry buddy we're not giving up! Aka they going to sell a lot while being gone lol. also they did exempt them in a way, they made it so that bts could do their service in their thirties, bts just decided to go together in their own time instead of waiting for the military to call them up.
Imagine N Korea starts war with S Korean when all BTS members are in military and they all be like ..... Life is Dynamite yeah aayyy and N Korea with its missiles be like yeah and here's your Blood sweat and tears 😭😂
Well the government did try but they had been arguing about it for years and now BTS took it into there own hands because they had enough of the government and said that they were going to serve the time they had too.
This close to a world war I'm all set on the military most of my family served it's ass
Remember Psy from Gangnam style? The reason he had to take a break was so that he could serve mandatory military time too!
"Should they have done it differently?"
No. Why are you giving the rich more rights than ordinary citizens.
Did you not read the movie title?
Because the economy is more important than being fair.
@@itechcircle9410 Uhuh so like fuck everyone else right? I mean they work, they contribute to the economy more than when theyre not conscripted.
@@iskathefirst6351 That's the logic I guess.
@@iskathefirst6351ehhh, they had done shadier things
Bro is out here seriously saying that the rich should avoid the mandatory draft because they are rich
BTS has always said they would serve when time came bc it’s their duty as citizens of SKR. The government kept going back and forth for years teasing a possible exemption and holding it over their heads. Everyone was talking about it except bts themselves. Even right up to the announcement that they would enlist, the govt was talking about if BTS was influential enough to be exempted; even after all they’ve done. They probably got tired of the “teasing” and that’s why they decided to announce the enlistment themselves. Which I think it was a good choice.
It's more of a nationalistic reason rather than economic. The "celebrity" division in military was also really controversial due to some scandals (i.e. getting a prostitute, skipping off the duty time, etc etc), which highlights the inequality of treatment within the military. The common people are already furious enough of chaebol families skipping the military duty through those loopholes. So, why would they think that entitled young entertainers like BTS must be exempted from the military?
Therefore, it would be a huge political crisis for the current gov't if they support the exemption for BTS. It already caused some PR troubles for some MPs a year ago for supporting the exemption for BTS. So, they must be really wary now.
Well written. 👍
who were those scandals related to?
Because there are other entertainers that have gotten exemptions before - people such as athletes and classical musicians - so it actually wouldn't have been a stretch at all for BTS to receive one as well, considering that contributed much more both economically and sociopolitically than those other people. But that's frankly irrelevant; BTS has always wanted to fulfill their duty regardless of what anyone else wanted from them
@@raerohan4241 emmmm, no they're not celeb entertainers etc etc. It's indeed a quite conservative way of thinking which is what South Korea is in general.
They didn’t because they want to set an example. I think some members even said it themselves. They should fulfill their duties just like everybody else.
I can almost guarantee you they arent gonna be fighting
@@tynanoyt Well duh 😂
No , people are gonna start thinking the rich and famous can avoid services , it’s gonna destroy the morale of the people
Never forget when football player Heung Min Son lead his team to the Asian Cup and exempted the whole team from service. Legend.
@@San-qp6hk why are you crying for gae-ts??
@@San-qp6hk they helped the team train and theyre still part of the top 25 best players in SK. Have a little respect.
@@San-qp6hk bullshit, Son is the BEST Asian footballer bro
Yet, still most of the world didn't know him.
Son still served in the military
Bts themselves said they were going to the military on their decision since the government was just taking too long to decide so they took it into their own hands.
The government wanted to wait until after the busan concert to see their influence to decide but right after the busan concert, bts themselves declared they would be going.
BTS has a LOT of pre filmed work that they will most likely pot when majority of the members are in the military. since they are going one at a time not all at once, they have solo work they can release and still bring in that revenue. A lot ARMYs support the members even if it’s just one of them. You don’t need to worry about korea losing money.
ARMY 😂😂
Anyone in the military cannot get paid for any outside work. How much does the military pay. I heard it was almost nothing and even the government has said they should do better.
If they have the time to make music
Why does bro thinks BTS makes South Korea all of its money 😂
for anyone curious, three members have enlisted so far. the oldest member has gotten an early promotion to corporal because of how good his performance is, the second has been promoted to an assistant trainer for new soldiers who enter his unit, and the other entered public service 2 days ago because of a long-time shoulder injury.
Was it realy because of peformance and not becasuse of publicity?
@@alexlehrersh9951since the beginning of BTS they were learning a lot of discipline. They also have strict excercises. Jimin has trained over 8 years in Taekwondo (black belt) and Kendo. They are extremely good at sports. Have you seen their dance practices? Of course they will be good in the military.
They worked very hard to get those positions so please don’t question if it’s really their performance and not publicity. They are fantastic role models!
I'd join the Korean army in a heartbeat if I could be trained by a BTS member. I'm already BTS army, so this would just be me taking the extra step.
@@alexlehrersh9951Jin has always been extremely fit, strong, disciplined and his core strength is insane. He also has a black belt in Taekwondo. Everyone in the army is awed by how good he is.
"the bullet goes through the enemy so smooth like a butter"
😭😭😭
😂😂😂
Weak af
The members will still make solo content , I know it’s not the same as group stuff but they will have staggered enlistments so they can do their solo projects. I also believe that many ARMYs aren’t just fans of BTS so they will still support other artists they like. It will feel like a long time from this pov but it will go by quickly.
If they give 1 exception it opens the door for everyone to get an exception
around 50k men in south Korea get exempt from the military every year and its usually people with ties to politicians there.
@@mocatastici wonder why people aren't protesting in droves and draft dodging
“BRO, I JUST GOT DOWNED BY A BTS GUY!”
LMAOOO
I would probably like to kill myself instead of that
“Oi Johnny boy just got snipped!”
“B-by who?”
“I see a few guys there, mayb-“
*“LIGHT.THEM.UP.LIKE.DYNAMITE”* 💣💥
Russian guy
"Heyo grab my bottl if Voddka I will get this guy's ass kicked "
Cringe
3.6 billion is just not enough to let them skip military service.
Because the member openly talks about how they want to retire,since most of them are introverted,and they want to go to the military,the government can help them if BTS wanted to,but they want to serve in military,they probably comeback with a few songs and retire,they deserve to start a family or smth,my guess is Jungkook can work himself as a soloist,while the others are pursuing other things..
Suga never even wanted to become an idol at first, he just wanted to rap and produce music, pretty sure he would just go back to that when he retires.
When did they say the wanted to retire?? They literally just said they want to be BTS for the next 20 or more years so Army should stay with them.... Where did you get that misconception from?
now why are you lying lmao they all said they want to make music together for as long as they can
Anyone remember Heung min Son's close call with mandatory military service in Korea? He was a couple months away from his mandatory service, but thankfully due to a loophole in Korean law which allowed sports people who had won a major accolade would be awarded a "pass" on their military service due to their sporting achievements and for promoting Korean sports and culture. The guy was playing inthe champions league, the premier league, and had played football in Germany also, he's a super star in korea, and even with all of that he was still set to serve for the military....if it wasn't for the Asian games .. S Korea won the Asian games literally months before his service...lucky lucky boy.
Doesn't mean he didn't serve. He just had it delayed. He has since finished his service and returned to playing.
Heung Min Son served in the military.
He left his Club Tottenham and went to serve.
What are you saying?
@@badommadonna1624 He did basic training for a month which there is no exemption from. He did not do the full service which is 18 months.
A better example would be Ji sung Park, he was allowed exemption of military service, and he won a UCL
Should USA do mandatory military service?
I think it's because they don't want people to think that celebrities are above the law. They want to create equality.
it also would be very domestically unpopular for BTS to skip the draft. In general, it seems like members of the Korean public see the mandatory military service as one’s responsibility and duty, and want them to serve like any other Korean male
Well crap if they're doing this willingly they're a million times better than our crappy celebs, you go BTS!
@Sonakshi luvs RM 💜 says the bts simp