Not a paradox. He's just playing for the other team. FFTA made allies blue and enemies red. Except in the case of red and blue mages, where they switch. It's all perfectly logical.
Don't forget the job trainer. I, like every other red mage main is still waiting by the front door for him to come back from the cigarette store. He even left his new, untrained, apprentice standing at the aetheryte in Mor Dhona waiting for him to come back and check on her.
I will never forgive X'rhun for not finishing Alisaie's training and then instead of having her join us and finish it he takes on an entirely different apprentice! Let Ali train with us! It's literally all she wants to do! 😭
@@Valavaern It's been ages so I don't remember exactly when or where, but I distinctly remember either Alisaie or X'rhun mentioning her having trained under him but not finished the lessons. If it was Ali that said it then it's possible it's bonus dialogue for RDM players since I mained RDM as soon as I hit 50
@@AlleluiaElizabeth because critting more often with slower spells is usually vastly more valuable for dps than critting less often but casting a fraction of a second faster. Like half of warrior's rotation is guarantee'd crit direct hit, but a lot of jobs aren't that lucky and have to meld for it, too much spellspeed/skillspeed seriously misaligns your buffs with the gcds that matter, too, making it more or less a wasted stat on a lot of jobs. Some want a little bit, but pentamelding was done here as a joke and is not something any job really wants
My one RDM wish list item is a buff to the potency of Vercure. It heals like 15k of my own 115k hp now, barely able to keep myself alive through auto-attacks against my squishy caster ass in FATEs for instance if I over pull. Also it's way less effective for self-survivability (and at a higher opportunity cost) than any of the other caster's shields. Even in some of the no-healer runs of the current EXes, it's barely used compared to the much more powerful spammable heal of PLD.
@@arof7605I will gladly sit at the bottom of the dps charts if it comes with a buff to vercure, and perhaps the introduction of vermedica and/or vermedica II which we need to steal from Alisaie’s recent duty support inclusions as a healer
Only thing I want them to do is either update the animations of VerStone and Fire or add a sort of follow up to those skills cause it's pretty outdated.
7 years ago oh god I feel so old larry please why did you do that Oh god that's a lot of spell speed melds I feel so old larry please why did you do that
"RDM please res" "I can't right now, I'm in my melee combo" "You just did your melee combo!" "Yes. Three times. I'm in my 4th melee combo. I can't res right now."
I feel like no one talks about how powerful a Red Mage is with Super Ethers nowadays when it comes to rezzing. Like, with Lucid Dreaming on at the same time, you can do four rez's back-to-back with a Super Ether and not have to stop DPS for MP to regen back.
@CDBlackmage depending on how much MP you already had, you can do up to 6 :D (Though if you have to do 6 there's no guarantee you'll be able to unless the last one's a high HP tank)
I had a run of the first 100 dungeon where the healer and tank both died on the first boss. My life led up to that moment as I rezzed about 4 times and took 2 tank busters before we recovered lol.
Speaking of tank busters, I think really skyrocketing the enmity of raising people would be a good compromise so that doing more than 1 every 30 seconds or so would even be able to rip threat from tanks
My 1st run of Grand Cosmos was as RDM and I'm still not sure how the tank and healer squeaked past the ilvl requirement because they hadn't so much as picked up their AF gear yet. I rezzed ppl somewhere around 20x throughout the dungeon and only went down once myself but I never let us fully wipe. Lo and behold, not a single comm... 😭
Honestly, it's just the 'spell sword/battle mage' aspect of it that draws me in. Doesn't matter if its personal dps is low. Besides. Once you have the boss down and you're not longer progging, the job you play becomes less imortant anyway. :D
Red mage's don't complain about our damage being low because we want to make sure the devs don't ever accidentally change any aspect of red mage ever. Genuinley the job being nearly identical every expansion is very appreciated.
yeah as a rdm main i dont want to be a nail that stands out to be hammered down by nerf. fc asked me if i was disappointed that there are no substantial changes for RDM in 7,0 and i just replied you dont change perfection
Plus, you chose this the moment you picked Red Mage. You either walked away from the DPS Black Mage for the healing, or walked away from Healer White Mage in order to contribute more to damage. What point would there be in complaining about our own choice?
@@greggreyes6869This is both true and a misnomer. Grand impact is SUCH a massive change in practice as simple as it seems it effectively doubles our instant casts at a damage *checks notes*-...gain
My second job to level was RDM, and I actually did that on accident. First comment I see after I die? "We found the DRG main"... My main class? I went from BRD to DNC. Never played DRG 😆Played it later tho, and, didn't make that mistake BECAUSE of RDM
I only got maximum comms once in my entire RDM career. It's when I accidentally backflipped off the stage and immediately went "AAAAHHHHHH!!!!" in chat. Boom, 7 comms. No problem. Everybody laughing their ass off. Best I got after that was like 3 for saving the raid through rezzes.
I still remember when the Eden raids first came out in Shadowbringers: I was in a fight against Titan (normal, not savage) and there was a point where everyone in the raid fell to one of his dashes except me on Red Mage and two melee DPS. Immediately, I though "This pull isn't ending here" and proceeded to raise a tank, both healers and a DPS before one of the healers pulled out a limit break to heal the entire party. It was GLORIOUS... until we wiped roughly 15% of his health bar later. But that was such a great moment for me and cemented why I enjoy playing Red Mage. Shame I only got one commend from it...
Both Hydalin and Endsinger. I raised everyone bare minimum once, we were crossing that finish line even if I had to drag their corpses across it. Both of those for my first clears were 7 comm runs
Honestly yeah. When I saw her use vermedica I shouted right then "I WANT THAT TOO" If she can do it, I feel like there's no reason a WOL who is the only non-padjal WHM shouldn't be able to figure it out!
@@terceleto Bruh, was my reaction to it as well, saw Alisaie was a healer option, was like 'huh?' saw the aoe verheals and immediately shouted in FC chat " I WANT THAT" Bonus points that she keeps up her dps rotation while verhealing the party
If they ever introduce job specializations (they won't), RDM would make 3 of them. Caster DPS (obviously), Healer, and Melee DPS. Imagine a healer with a proper DPS rotation that works because of the ability to weave whichever spells are needed due to dual cast, probably with some BLU like buff to increase healing at the expense of some damage. The melee version could be like the inverse of caster with using the sword skills to build W/B mana and spend it on spells for the same combo.
Honestly, jokes aside, you're more or less right. RDM's rotation is so close to perfect. It works really well, it's easy to learn but also has room for optimization. It's overall a fun Job that's really interesting. They made it harder in EW and DT (not a TON, but more to optimize with 3x combos) and made SMN easier, but RDM is just...uh...fun. It's just FUN. I'm still mad Alisaie got Vermedica and we didn't and that RDM is somehow the least mobile Caster for no reason. I feel like what it needs is some melee ability that doesn't cost Mana and does a Jolt's worth of damage (*ahem* Reprisal?) to use for a movement tool without screwing up your Mana. The Enchanted one is nice, but 5/5 is a higher opportunity cost since it costs 10% of your combo now when before it was whatever the heck 5/80*100% was. Also: Holy cow, it's the Contre Sixte/Fleche swords?! My god man! You just made it 100x better! I mean, I already loved the animation on that ability (Refulgence? I just know it's the Manification button after Resolution XD), but the fact it's like raining the ethereal swords is amazing!!!
it's nice that, at its worst, a job in ff14 maybe looks at the other jobs and goes "I wish I could do their damage". I've never seen anyone make a video about how Red Mage can't clear X boss, or how Machinist can't be used in Savage content. The balance is pretty good in this game.
This why RDM is my main in FFXIV. It does damage but not the best, but it can res faster then other healers and smn but isn't really a great healer despite having decent skills to help out with it. Its one of the jobs where it does the "master of none" great that Red Mage has always had in the FF series. Also since we know our damage is bad we don't have to worry about major changes lol. Bravely Default games may be the only other games where RDM is fun to use or works well.
i was board with RDM in Endwalker but shockingly, slapping a few oGCDs has really helped it a lot, it genuinely just feels better now. it's also fantastic that i can immediately burst in dungeon pulls now, extremely silly that it took so long.
I mean I kinda unironically want that Jolt animation looked fine since it's the basic filler we use when we don't have procs, why does Jolt 3 look cooler than Verfire and Verstone when those are supposed to be the better versions 😔
@@naoremonthI understand that fire/stone are dps increases but jolt 3 gives me happy brain chemicals definitely surprised that they didnt get upgraded this expac though but they gotta save some stuff i guess
It was that video from seven years ago (okay, for me it was only four years ago...) that made me fall in love with Red Mage - a love that still burns to this day ^.^
2 stacks of Acceleration that ends up giving you Grand impact and another instant cast, is actually pretty good mobility in my opinion, just another stack of it and it would not be too different from Triplecasts off of Black Mage
The funniest joke in the whole video was when he said RDM players actually get comms... 😭 For real though there's been a few times in EW and DT specifically that have made me start wondering if the fight design team just doesn't consider RDM when designing where to put the ranged dps players for mechanics. Golbez Ex, Zoraal Ja Ex, and M2S all have 1 or 2 moments where the melee combo during 2 minutes just isn't possible without dropping uptime, and P12S and M3S also have moments that take really unsettling timing to squeeze it in. The perfect solution that an fc friend said to me would be to make Manafication give you 1 melee combo phase that could be done from range. You'd still have to be in melee for most of the combos so it keeps the flavor but the 110s cd of Manafication would let you choose the 1st or 2nd melee combo under 2 minutes to be ranged as needed. I'm desperate for exactly this fix at this point
I haven't done Golbez yet but: - Zoraal Ja Ex 4 min burst: possible with a good tank who will pull the boss to the sensible side of the conga line (but hard). Also ok if you can finagle the M1 spot. Otherwise yeah you're screwed. - Zoraal Ja Ex 6 min burst: if you double combo and start your combo 5s before embolden, you can embolden and be in your finisher for breaking the chains. Alternatively, parties can hold burst 30 seconds because the aero jump interrupts everyone's burst and it just sucks in general. - M2S 2 min burst: in practice I get to melee combo while in a melee-range tower most of the time. In PF you can be the terrible person who aggressively takes towers early to not be forced to take a late ranged tower preventing you from bursting... ;) - M2S 6 min burst: 25% chance of a rough burst, but it's still very doable. Worst case you can do 1e23 like in M4S's 2-minute burst, but if you can instant cast and gapclose back then you're golden. The manafication idea your friend has is interesting, but I don't really think the QoL is that needed. It would make the job easier for sure, but working around potential downtime is one of the parts that makes RDM fun to optimise imo
@@adituv8565 To elaborate on Golbez, there's a mechanic that requires R/H pairs to sit in the corners of the platform and at one point that mechanic lines up with 2 mins such that you end up popping Embolden 2 or 3 GCDs before you can even get back into melee range. I quickly gave up on RDM and did all my runs of it on SMN because of that. As for M2S, my main gripe for the burst at 2 mins is that right around when I should be doing my first melee combo she does a point blank aoe that can't quite be max melee and misaligns the Embolden w/ the burst rotation. As for the 6 min burst, that one's not actually an issue at all as the burst window doesn't start until after all the puddles get baited.
@@WhywolfSenpai I start my melee combo a gcd early for M2S 2 mins, and add a grand impact to (almost) make up for the verholy that is no longer in buff window. 6 min final bait isn't an issue if you keep an instant cast ability back but if you mess that up and have to hardcast as soon as you get out of puddle, it can be a litle painful. Particularly if you're aligning embolden and manafication, where you want to start your combo ~5s before burst window
@@adituv8565 See that 6 minute situation is just an easy Reprise from me if I don't have any other instants left. Even if it gets me below 50/50 I can just Manafication the 1st melee combo and have enough for the 2nd
Glad to see you doing uploads again. A friend of mine linked me to videos of yours just before I first started playing the game. Your sense of humour was my first exposure to the FF14 community and I liked what I saw.
awh dude...the og rdm video is really 7 years old, that was one of first videos I watched of yours man is it nice to see videos of yours like this again, welcome back larry! TT
Yay! More Larryzaur! And my fav job, too! I went from healer main to RDM main (in ShB)...never looking back. I've saved so many raids and dungeon runs (and almost never got commed for it, unfortunately) by single rezzing or rezzing a healer who LB3's. Unfortunately, we don't get our main utility (the rez) until level 64...so I couldn't use it when our FC was doing UCoB. Granted, some of the numbers in the body count were mine with that one (especially Nael; we sadly never got past him).
He didn't forget about PCT, it's just too hard to speak about it, considering the trauma from PCT getting everything SMN would like to have (minus cast times).
The main paradox about red mage is how whenever they change it , and do things that other jobs would be considered “ruined” it just makes playing it more fun
I might be in the minority on this, but having some skills evolve on just a single button for the combo would make the game more enjoyable to me. It would really help to clean up the messy tool bars.
in 9.0 where most jobs have button bloat this will probably more common i also want the melee single target combo to be one button like the aoe combo cause if i lag a little bit the combo breaks
I have single handedly saved enough normal raids and ex trials (and helped save prog runs in savage runs) as a RDM that I could never give the job up, it just feels too good. helps that the job is just so much fun and stylish.
I once raise both healers as the entire party died, sacrificed myself the stack marker that came shortly after to keep the tanks alive who were the only ones who didn't die, just to spend the rest of the fight in the dirt as the two clowns healing kept raising the melee to die again. I never touched RDM again, and became a SAM main that day.
My only complaint about RDM: When my white and black mana are even I don't get a guaranteed proc on verholy/flare. Which means I'm constantly pushing to get one higher than the other with no verstone/fire procs sitting so that I don't waste any procs. But it's still one of my favorites, and I love taking it into new raids for the chance to salvage runs (assuming I'm not the first one dead XD).
While I do main Dragoon, Red Mage is definitely my second favourite Job for its Versatility. I'd probably make only three changes: upgrade Verfire and Verstone, since their potency has lagged quite a bit (they got a boost, but are still weaker than Veraero III and Verthunder III); have Fleche and Contea Sixte usable twice before you have to wait for it to recharge; and, lastly, let us use both Verflare and Verholy with Manafication active, just so I can keep the B&W Mana in balance after I use it.
I think RDM should be able to spend gauge for triple cast in place of melee combos just for those situations where they gotta move. Like maybe 20/20 for an instant cast that gives tricast instead of dual cast after a spell.
You are so right, King, and you should say it!! I did a run of The Lighthouse SB alliance raid once where I actually lost track of how many rezzes I did.... It was more than 13, at minimum..... I got commends from other parties in that alliance raid. No better high for a red mage.
Shout out to my first run of p6n like day 2 where I saved the run by getting a Healer up to LB3 and the healer told everyone to give me the comms for it and I walked out with 5 comms. Felt fucking amazing tbh. Still haven’t matched that high since.
You forgot that acceleration originally didn't have instant cast, it used to only guarantee the next proc. So opener would be Acceleration then a hardcast Verthunder/Veraero. Whenever I get a countdown nowadays I still twitch to use Acceleration but that'd just be silly now.
i played black mage, but when i foudn red mage immediately switched, full of action and looking stylish, and useful with raises, dmg up buff and mittigation too, also their rotation dont change while running dungeons
I remember pentamelding spell speed on my astro and cracking it out being the only reason we survived a savage raid with no healer lb3 with half the members down because i just... hit lightspeed and blasted raises like it was no ones business. It was really funny. I used it mostly for Bozja
Hey there, red mage main here! Little history on the job: Throughout the Final Fantasy series, red mage has always been the "jack of all trades, master of none" job. They couldn't cast 3rd-tier and up of white or black spells, but being able to cast 1st and 2nd tier of both kinds of magic was very useful. They tended to be tankier and faster than a normal mage, but not as tanky as... well, a TANK, or as fast as one of the dex classes, like bard or dancer. Overall, red mage traded out specializing in any one area of combat (damage output, tankiness, healing output, or speed) for the versatility of doing them all at a slightly reduced capacity. It was generally a more adaptable class, supporting the party in multiple ways, depending on what was needed from moment to moment in a fight. It plays a little different in FFXIV, but its utility isn't to be overlooked. Party buffs are always great to have, and don't forget that red mage has a magic barrier that can cover the whole party if they're close enough. And of course, having another person in a party with a rez can be invaluable, and that red mage can just instantly cast it whenever they like is pretty dang powerful. Still drains mana like a fire hose when rezzing multiple people but hey, that's what Lucid Dreaming is for, amirite? XD
I mained nin for a long time until during shb a buddy who also played ninja (and way better) being a mainstay in our crew inspired me to give rdm a shot since it's what I was using to carry Experts, oh so tired I was of clueless tank/healer duos and still grieving the loss of sb war. I've never looked back, and it's completely true that being able to drag entire alliance raids to a clear felt amazing. You could watch 10 people go down to a mechanic and just start vercure-verraise-swiftcast-verraise-vercure-verraise... and get so many people up. Getting the comms was nice for sure until I got my borb but the thrill of saving the raid was always more amazing. I'm too much of a baby to do savage though, so I haven't experienced the prog benefits beyond ex stuff. Idk what that buildup was for exactly but I enjoyed the commentary and nothing is sticking out in my mind as something I overtly disagreed with. I agree that other casters have definitely caught up to rdm in terms of mobility. blm is almost there, smn is a ranged phys in disguise, and picto has the best dash in the game on a low cd and hammer go bonk. I definitely get the gripes from smn mains that never asked to be lumped together with the support casters. I guess I just don't really care that much that I'm low on a chart when dps checks aren't an issue. I'm aware yoshi said in an interview that they're going to address unexpected high damage with harder dps checks in the future, but I don't think rdm is in an unfair position (I do, however, feel that low dmg ranged phys players should outdamage good tank players, but I guess that's a philosophical viewpoint). What was I talking about? o yeah rdms play rdm bc vape + scorch.mp4 + LB3 = dopamine
In Final Fantasy 5 Red Mage takes 160 ABP just to get to its penultimate level and then grind 999 ABP to learn Dualcast. It is one of the grindiest jobs in that game. And you don't get that job until you get to the second crystal. In FFXIV Dualcast is a level 1 Red Mage trait. You put your hand on a thin sword, and you automatically learn it.
Red Mage and Samurai were two of my favorites with Controller. They just make intuitive sense. Ironic it was the expansion they ditched an entire console.
Been maining RDM all these years and that still hasn't changed. It's not just my favourite class, but also the one I play best. It's perhaps the only class I can truly play blindfolded if I had to. Though nothing makes me sadder than saving a wipe and getting 0 comms for it at the end. Has happened before and that always ruins my day. Lol
As a red mage main, I feel very called out. I practically live for getting the opportunity to play raise-bot. When the party falls apart and due to dumb luck it's just me and the tanks left and I'm able to almost singlehandedly raise the entire party... I feel like a GOD.
red mage actually had high dps at the end of last expantion cuz its harder to play then its given credit for so once the fights are mastered thats when it shines
RED MAGE RISE UP!!!!
here here!
need pint to also to chime in!
Hell yeah!
@@jessecox Didn't you recently murder a group in a raid run. 😜 With that verflashbang.
Red Mage rules!
The class is so good it's making me crazy!
I love the part where his RDM glam is blue and his BLU glam is red. working as intended..truly a paradox
I do the same, but additionally, my WHM is black and BLM is white. And I respect all fellow chromatic rebels
Not a paradox. He's just playing for the other team. FFTA made allies blue and enemies red. Except in the case of red and blue mages, where they switch.
It's all perfectly logical.
Anything a Red Mage wears is red, even if it appears otherwise to the unenlightened. Here we see a fetching shade of Verblue.
I think I'm doing it wrong:
Whm: black
Blm: black
Rdm: black
Blu: Actually, this one is blue
Can't be a paradox, that's a black mage skill
oh yeah and the LB3 can kill the whole party so S-tier job
VERFLASHBANG!!!
I almost had a Scathach wipe because the LB3 went off at the same time she threw out line AOEs. We made it though! 🎉
This week I had a verblind during the second mouser of m1n. 6/8 dead
Everything on the floor from RDM LB3 was what killed my first M4N run, 10/10 best limit break.
I always wonder why I ended up in Skyrim whenever that's used.
Don't forget the job trainer. I, like every other red mage main is still waiting by the front door for him to come back from the cigarette store. He even left his new, untrained, apprentice standing at the aetheryte in Mor Dhona waiting for him to come back and check on her.
He is just off with the Arcanist guild leader and buying some milk as well.
one day papa will return and i will be waiting with veropen arms
I will never forgive X'rhun for not finishing Alisaie's training and then instead of having her join us and finish it he takes on an entirely different apprentice! Let Ali train with us! It's literally all she wants to do! 😭
@@WhywolfSenpai Is that... based on something she actually says?
@@Valavaern It's been ages so I don't remember exactly when or where, but I distinctly remember either Alisaie or X'rhun mentioning her having trained under him but not finished the lessons. If it was Ali that said it then it's possible it's bonus dialogue for RDM players since I mained RDM as soon as I hit 50
Who cares who has the most DPS when I have the most SPS (Style Per Second) that is what REALLY matters
Let's appreciate that we are currenting in The Larryzaur Renaissance period.
the Verenaissance
Larryzaur: Complains about RDM damage
Also Larryzaur: Pentamelds Spell Speed
That's so you can get to the good complaints faster.
Why is faster casting of spells bad for rdm dps? Asking as a war.
@@AlleluiaElizabeth less room to walk, ogcd, also melee mana combo doesn't reduce gcd time with sps
@@AlleluiaElizabeth because critting more often with slower spells is usually vastly more valuable for dps than critting less often but casting a fraction of a second faster. Like half of warrior's rotation is guarantee'd crit direct hit, but a lot of jobs aren't that lucky and have to meld for it, too much spellspeed/skillspeed seriously misaligns your buffs with the gcds that matter, too, making it more or less a wasted stat on a lot of jobs. Some want a little bit, but pentamelding was done here as a joke and is not something any job really wants
the paradox
RDM needs no changes because you can't change perfection.
My one RDM wish list item is a buff to the potency of Vercure. It heals like 15k of my own 115k hp now, barely able to keep myself alive through auto-attacks against my squishy caster ass in FATEs for instance if I over pull. Also it's way less effective for self-survivability (and at a higher opportunity cost) than any of the other caster's shields. Even in some of the no-healer runs of the current EXes, it's barely used compared to the much more powerful spammable heal of PLD.
@@arof7605I will gladly sit at the bottom of the dps charts if it comes with a buff to vercure, and perhaps the introduction of vermedica and/or vermedica II which we need to steal from Alisaie’s recent duty support inclusions as a healer
Only thing I want them to do is either update the animations of VerStone and Fire or add a sort of follow up to those skills cause it's pretty outdated.
Amen brother
@@arof7605 Vercure III anyone? Like Allisae gets. Vermedica II/III? 👀
this man pentamelded a full set in nothing but spell speed pointlessly for a 2 second joke and i appreciate that level of commitment to the bit
To be fair, it might have been his BLM set, where the spell speed is actually useful
who says its a joke? - larryzaur. probably
The joke was good enough for me to watch the video three times and laugh each time
I was once the sole survivor of a CE in Bozja. Raised everyone back as a RDM. Feels good
OHHHH YEAHHHHH
FEEL THE POWERRRRRRRR!!!!!
RDM in CE is PEAK! Especially with the insta-cast essence, just rez everyone on the ground
doing the 300 raise achievement was a breeze cause of bozja
And I'll bet you didn't get a single commend for your troubles. 'tis a pain we all feel.
Red mage Larry needs to teach summoner Larry the importance of not caring about damage.
There's a valuable lesson to be learned here
Maybe if they get a elder summon that gives party buffs that isn't just reskined bard songs
Smn would just be magical bard
Except it's dots XD
Give us back the Titan that can tank and we can talk.
7 years ago oh god I feel so old larry please why did you do that
Oh god that's a lot of spell speed melds I feel so old larry please why did you do that
hahahHAHA SUFFER
Therethere, have a cookie and dont think of the release of 1.0... or ARR ^^°
Nobody point out to Wesk that all his gear is full spiritbond.
@@arathain2 Eh. If Larry partakes in trains at all, he has 500000 materia already
@@Larryzaur SUFFER SUFFER SUFFER AND KNOW YOUR FOLLY
LARRY. IF YOU HAD MANAFICATIONED ON A LATER COMBO. YOU COULD'VE DONE FOUR SWORD COMBOS. YOU FOOL
AND THIS!!! IS TO GO!!! EVEN FURTHER!!! BEYOND!!!
@@Larryzaur LARRY PUT IT DOWN. NO LARRY. DON'T SHAVE YOUR EYEBROWS
"RDM please res"
"I can't right now, I'm in my melee combo"
"You just did your melee combo!"
"Yes. Three times. I'm in my 4th melee combo. I can't res right now."
Bring a super ether. You are a walking healer lb3 to help clean up the mess from your own LB3.
Got a couple stacks for this very reason : )
I took Alchemist just so I could craft my own Super Duper Handy Dandy Sirnight Alexander Branded Super Ethers (Trademark)
I feel like no one talks about how powerful a Red Mage is with Super Ethers nowadays when it comes to rezzing. Like, with Lucid Dreaming on at the same time, you can do four rez's back-to-back with a Super Ether and not have to stop DPS for MP to regen back.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@CDBlackmage depending on how much MP you already had, you can do up to 6 :D
(Though if you have to do 6 there's no guarantee you'll be able to unless the last one's a high HP tank)
The only change RDM needs is for Sprint to not eat your Dualcast
We allow Red Mage to have low damage because it still FEELS good.
I had a run of the first 100 dungeon where the healer and tank both died on the first boss. My life led up to that moment as I rezzed about 4 times and took 2 tank busters before we recovered lol.
You were training for that day, and you SO arrived
Speaking of tank busters, I think really skyrocketing the enmity of raising people would be a good compromise so that doing more than 1 every 30 seconds or so would even be able to rip threat from tanks
My 1st run of Grand Cosmos was as RDM and I'm still not sure how the tank and healer squeaked past the ilvl requirement because they hadn't so much as picked up their AF gear yet. I rezzed ppl somewhere around 20x throughout the dungeon and only went down once myself but I never let us fully wipe. Lo and behold, not a single comm... 😭
Honestly, it's just the 'spell sword/battle mage' aspect of it that draws me in. Doesn't matter if its personal dps is low.
Besides. Once you have the boss down and you're not longer progging, the job you play becomes less imortant anyway. :D
7:05 "Look at this hat" --- As A Hrothgar: "Rub it in why don't ya! 😭"
I was just thinking in Hrothgar "what effing hat?!"
Cries in Viera.
That's why you don't see a lot of Hroth or Vierra RDM mains. A fly hat is absolutely mandatory for the job.
Red mage's don't complain about our damage being low because we want to make sure the devs don't ever accidentally change any aspect of red mage ever. Genuinley the job being nearly identical every expansion is very appreciated.
yeah as a rdm main i dont want to be a nail that stands out to be hammered down by nerf.
fc asked me if i was disappointed that there are no substantial changes for RDM in 7,0 and i just replied you dont change perfection
Plus, you chose this the moment you picked Red Mage. You either walked away from the DPS Black Mage for the healing, or walked away from Healer White Mage in order to contribute more to damage. What point would there be in complaining about our own choice?
@@greggreyes6869This is both true and a misnomer. Grand impact is SUCH a massive change in practice as simple as it seems it effectively doubles our instant casts at a damage *checks notes*-...gain
You say we get the commends, but they all go to the healer regardless...
We do what we do not necessarily for the commends themselves, but because it is commendable.
100% this. Only the healer ever realizes that the rez came from us and even then it's a toss up if they give us the comm
Don't forget, your RDM has to look fabulous while backflipping off the arena.
...that only happens ._. sometimes + we have rez prio coz every healer loves having a rdm around
My second job to level was RDM, and I actually did that on accident. First comment I see after I die? "We found the DRG main"... My main class? I went from BRD to DNC. Never played DRG 😆Played it later tho, and, didn't make that mistake BECAUSE of RDM
Fabulousness grands extra progs - everybody knows this, duh... XD
I only got maximum comms once in my entire RDM career.
It's when I accidentally backflipped off the stage and immediately went "AAAAHHHHHH!!!!" in chat.
Boom, 7 comms. No problem. Everybody laughing their ass off.
Best I got after that was like 3 for saving the raid through rezzes.
That's why I wear 2B's boots :D
I cannot unsee the armory thing now! Thanks for that mate!
I still remember when the Eden raids first came out in Shadowbringers: I was in a fight against Titan (normal, not savage) and there was a point where everyone in the raid fell to one of his dashes except me on Red Mage and two melee DPS. Immediately, I though "This pull isn't ending here" and proceeded to raise a tank, both healers and a DPS before one of the healers pulled out a limit break to heal the entire party. It was GLORIOUS... until we wiped roughly 15% of his health bar later. But that was such a great moment for me and cemented why I enjoy playing Red Mage. Shame I only got one commend from it...
gotta love those moments.
You getting one commend out of that feels like a crime
The excitement I feel when I see you upload, its awesome to have you back king
THANK YOU SHEN 🥹🥹🥹
*sees Larry talking about my main job*
*stops what I'm doing immediately*
Very important and verwonderful
Both Hydalin and Endsinger. I raised everyone bare minimum once, we were crossing that finish line even if I had to drag their corpses across it. Both of those for my first clears were 7 comm runs
Now they just need to give us the Vermedica and Vercure III that Alisaie used, and we're golden
Honestly yeah. When I saw her use vermedica I shouted right then "I WANT THAT TOO"
If she can do it, I feel like there's no reason a WOL who is the only non-padjal WHM shouldn't be able to figure it out!
Wait, she had Vercure 3 as well? I only saw Vermedica 2!
@@terceleto Bruh, was my reaction to it as well, saw Alisaie was a healer option, was like 'huh?' saw the aoe verheals and immediately shouted in FC chat " I WANT THAT" Bonus points that she keeps up her dps rotation while verhealing the party
@@rayllis689 yeah I was really impressed with her as a healer! (sorry Alphinaud!)
If they ever introduce job specializations (they won't), RDM would make 3 of them. Caster DPS (obviously), Healer, and Melee DPS. Imagine a healer with a proper DPS rotation that works because of the ability to weave whichever spells are needed due to dual cast, probably with some BLU like buff to increase healing at the expense of some damage. The melee version could be like the inverse of caster with using the sword skills to build W/B mana and spend it on spells for the same combo.
Larryzaur: Go and do what it is you do best
Me: *Verflashbang*
Honestly, jokes aside, you're more or less right. RDM's rotation is so close to perfect. It works really well, it's easy to learn but also has room for optimization. It's overall a fun Job that's really interesting. They made it harder in EW and DT (not a TON, but more to optimize with 3x combos) and made SMN easier, but RDM is just...uh...fun. It's just FUN. I'm still mad Alisaie got Vermedica and we didn't and that RDM is somehow the least mobile Caster for no reason. I feel like what it needs is some melee ability that doesn't cost Mana and does a Jolt's worth of damage (*ahem* Reprisal?) to use for a movement tool without screwing up your Mana. The Enchanted one is nice, but 5/5 is a higher opportunity cost since it costs 10% of your combo now when before it was whatever the heck 5/80*100% was.
Also: Holy cow, it's the Contre Sixte/Fleche swords?! My god man! You just made it 100x better! I mean, I already loved the animation on that ability (Refulgence? I just know it's the Manification button after Resolution XD), but the fact it's like raining the ethereal swords is amazing!!!
RDM has the best looking spell effects. No question.
00:30 you dont have to freakin ruin my day like that man
You know the job is fancy when people can’t help but watch your LB3 the entire time. They literally cannot help it.
it's nice that, at its worst, a job in ff14 maybe looks at the other jobs and goes "I wish I could do their damage". I've never seen anyone make a video about how Red Mage can't clear X boss, or how Machinist can't be used in Savage content. The balance is pretty good in this game.
Red Mage: The style and utility casting job.
He put the Red Mage in blue, and the Blue Mage in red, my small mind can't comprehend.
thanks for the video larry
its VER-y interesting
This why RDM is my main in FFXIV. It does damage but not the best, but it can res faster then other healers and smn but isn't really a great healer despite having decent skills to help out with it. Its one of the jobs where it does the "master of none" great that Red Mage has always had in the FF series. Also since we know our damage is bad we don't have to worry about major changes lol. Bravely Default games may be the only other games where RDM is fun to use or works well.
i was board with RDM in Endwalker but shockingly, slapping a few oGCDs has really helped it a lot, it genuinely just feels better now.
it's also fantastic that i can immediately burst in dungeon pulls now, extremely silly that it took so long.
this job is so great i cant wait for next expac where we get verfire and verstone 3 (theyre only 20
potency buffs and mainly just animation upgrades)
I mean I kinda unironically want that
Jolt animation looked fine since it's the basic filler we use when we don't have procs, why does Jolt 3 look cooler than Verfire and Verstone when those are supposed to be the better versions 😔
@@naoremonthI understand that fire/stone are dps increases but jolt 3 gives me happy brain chemicals
definitely surprised that they didnt get upgraded this expac though but they gotta save some stuff i guess
I want Verice and Verwater as AoEs. Although the new ogcd is technically Verice.
Feels nice especially in zones like Bozja and Eureka saving people from penalties.
"Achievement Unlocked: The Kindness of Strangers V"
There’s something very special about RedMage in that it’s perfect.
Never knew about the tilted dresser, so...thank you for giving that mental damage forever.
It was that video from seven years ago (okay, for me it was only four years ago...) that made me fall in love with Red Mage - a love that still burns to this day ^.^
2 stacks of Acceleration that ends up giving you Grand impact and another instant cast, is actually pretty good mobility in my opinion, just another stack of it and it would not be too different from Triplecasts off of Black Mage
The funniest joke in the whole video was when he said RDM players actually get comms... 😭 For real though there's been a few times in EW and DT specifically that have made me start wondering if the fight design team just doesn't consider RDM when designing where to put the ranged dps players for mechanics. Golbez Ex, Zoraal Ja Ex, and M2S all have 1 or 2 moments where the melee combo during 2 minutes just isn't possible without dropping uptime, and P12S and M3S also have moments that take really unsettling timing to squeeze it in. The perfect solution that an fc friend said to me would be to make Manafication give you 1 melee combo phase that could be done from range. You'd still have to be in melee for most of the combos so it keeps the flavor but the 110s cd of Manafication would let you choose the 1st or 2nd melee combo under 2 minutes to be ranged as needed. I'm desperate for exactly this fix at this point
I haven't done Golbez yet but:
- Zoraal Ja Ex 4 min burst: possible with a good tank who will pull the boss to the sensible side of the conga line (but hard). Also ok if you can finagle the M1 spot. Otherwise yeah you're screwed.
- Zoraal Ja Ex 6 min burst: if you double combo and start your combo 5s before embolden, you can embolden and be in your finisher for breaking the chains. Alternatively, parties can hold burst 30 seconds because the aero jump interrupts everyone's burst and it just sucks in general.
- M2S 2 min burst: in practice I get to melee combo while in a melee-range tower most of the time. In PF you can be the terrible person who aggressively takes towers early to not be forced to take a late ranged tower preventing you from bursting... ;)
- M2S 6 min burst: 25% chance of a rough burst, but it's still very doable. Worst case you can do 1e23 like in M4S's 2-minute burst, but if you can instant cast and gapclose back then you're golden.
The manafication idea your friend has is interesting, but I don't really think the QoL is that needed. It would make the job easier for sure, but working around potential downtime is one of the parts that makes RDM fun to optimise imo
@@adituv8565 To elaborate on Golbez, there's a mechanic that requires R/H pairs to sit in the corners of the platform and at one point that mechanic lines up with 2 mins such that you end up popping Embolden 2 or 3 GCDs before you can even get back into melee range. I quickly gave up on RDM and did all my runs of it on SMN because of that.
As for M2S, my main gripe for the burst at 2 mins is that right around when I should be doing my first melee combo she does a point blank aoe that can't quite be max melee and misaligns the Embolden w/ the burst rotation. As for the 6 min burst, that one's not actually an issue at all as the burst window doesn't start until after all the puddles get baited.
@@WhywolfSenpai I start my melee combo a gcd early for M2S 2 mins, and add a grand impact to (almost) make up for the verholy that is no longer in buff window.
6 min final bait isn't an issue if you keep an instant cast ability back but if you mess that up and have to hardcast as soon as you get out of puddle, it can be a litle painful. Particularly if you're aligning embolden and manafication, where you want to start your combo ~5s before burst window
@@adituv8565 See that 6 minute situation is just an easy Reprise from me if I don't have any other instants left. Even if it gets me below 50/50 I can just Manafication the 1st melee combo and have enough for the 2nd
@@WhywolfSenpai you know... You're right. I completely forget reprise exists lol
"If you're going for the glamour endgame, you can't do much worse than red mage"
wait so red mage is the worst???
is this the paradox you mentioned
currently using Red mage for the Stormblood msq. been loving it during the entire time.
the irony of the your blue and red mage glam colours is not lost on me
Glad to see you doing uploads again. A friend of mine linked me to videos of yours just before I first started playing the game. Your sense of humour was my first exposure to the FF14 community and I liked what I saw.
Oh... I interpreted this as "Red mage has Paradox"
The quicktongue melds hurt me to the very depths of my cold, black soul.
randomly finding your videos, and your enthusiasm has convinced me to pick up the game, haven't played since 2017
It's so good to have you back
this video made me ver-y excited to play redmage again lol
kind of funny since it was your orginial guide that made me play it years ago XD
awh dude...the og rdm video is really 7 years old, that was one of first videos I watched of yours
man is it nice to see videos of yours like this again, welcome back larry! TT
The 7 years ago on the previous vid had me wheezing 😂 ya sense of humour and wit is always so on point
I am so so glad Larry is back. Thanks for making more amazing videos!
Yay! More Larryzaur! And my fav job, too!
I went from healer main to RDM main (in ShB)...never looking back. I've saved so many raids and dungeon runs (and almost never got commed for it, unfortunately) by single rezzing or rezzing a healer who LB3's.
Unfortunately, we don't get our main utility (the rez) until level 64...so I couldn't use it when our FC was doing UCoB. Granted, some of the numbers in the body count were mine with that one (especially Nael; we sadly never got past him).
eagerly awaiting your pictomancer video that you're definitely going to make :)
I love when Larry forgets that there's another caster, PCT and also forgets Hroths and Viera who can't use hats
He didn't forget about PCT, it's just too hard to speak about it, considering the trauma from PCT getting everything SMN would like to have (minus cast times).
Can't go wrong with Red Mage! Excellent job design!!!
holy cow you uploaded something! TIME TO START THE DAY!
The main paradox about red mage is how whenever they change it , and do things that other jobs would be considered “ruined” it just makes playing it more fun
Return of the king
I might be in the minority on this, but having some skills evolve on just a single button for the combo would make the game more enjoyable to me. It would really help to clean up the messy tool bars.
in 9.0 where most jobs have button bloat this will probably more common
i also want the melee single target combo to be one button like the aoe combo cause if i lag a little bit the combo breaks
I have single handedly saved enough normal raids and ex trials (and helped save prog runs in savage runs) as a RDM that I could never give the job up, it just feels too good.
helps that the job is just so much fun and stylish.
5:50 for extended movement sections you can use the spell you've got on your F8 key :]
I once raised 5 teamates on a raid with RDM and it earned me 0 comms so now that button has been moved to a cross hotbar I can't reach as easily.
I once raise both healers as the entire party died, sacrificed myself the stack marker that came shortly after to keep the tanks alive who were the only ones who didn't die, just to spend the rest of the fight in the dirt as the two clowns healing kept raising the melee to die again. I never touched RDM again, and became a SAM main that day.
As a healer main who fell in love with dancer... yeah I'mma need to do red mage next.
My only complaint about RDM: When my white and black mana are even I don't get a guaranteed proc on verholy/flare. Which means I'm constantly pushing to get one higher than the other with no verstone/fire procs sitting so that I don't waste any procs.
But it's still one of my favorites, and I love taking it into new raids for the chance to salvage runs (assuming I'm not the first one dead XD).
It's the coolest realisation of the spellsword archetype across any medium imo
This job really is so ver-cool; since I picked it up as a second class, I play it for fun/style/comms. It helped push me past the 4k comm mark.
I picked up Red Mage as my caster for role quests and I accidentally found my new favorite DPS at the moment
While I do main Dragoon, Red Mage is definitely my second favourite Job for its Versatility.
I'd probably make only three changes: upgrade Verfire and Verstone, since their potency has lagged quite a bit (they got a boost, but are still weaker than Veraero III and Verthunder III); have Fleche and Contea Sixte usable twice before you have to wait for it to recharge; and, lastly, let us use both Verflare and Verholy with Manafication active, just so I can keep the B&W Mana in balance after I use it.
proud to say i've been a RDM main since progging E4S that many years ago
tried PIC this expansion but i still went back to RDM for savages
I think RDM should be able to spend gauge for triple cast in place of melee combos just for those situations where they gotta move. Like maybe 20/20 for an instant cast that gives tricast instead of dual cast after a spell.
So true that RDM is definitely the class with the most style points in everything they do
You are so right, King, and you should say it!!
I did a run of The Lighthouse SB alliance raid once where I actually lost track of how many rezzes I did.... It was more than 13, at minimum..... I got commends from other parties in that alliance raid. No better high for a red mage.
Shout out to my first run of p6n like day 2 where I saved the run by getting a Healer up to LB3 and the healer told everyone to give me the comms for it and I walked out with 5 comms. Felt fucking amazing tbh. Still haven’t matched that high since.
You forgot that acceleration originally didn't have instant cast, it used to only guarantee the next proc. So opener would be Acceleration then a hardcast Verthunder/Veraero. Whenever I get a countdown nowadays I still twitch to use Acceleration but that'd just be silly now.
7:03 "Look at this hat, look at much style I have."
*Horthgar (me) and Veira players* : Must be nice...
i played black mage, but when i foudn red mage immediately switched, full of action and looking stylish, and useful with raises, dmg up buff and mittigation too, also their rotation dont change while running dungeons
I remember pentamelding spell speed on my astro and cracking it out being the only reason we survived a savage raid with no healer lb3 with half the members down because i just... hit lightspeed and blasted raises like it was no ones business.
It was really funny.
I used it mostly for Bozja
Somewhere Jesse Cox's ears are burning.
he is already here in the chat among us lol
Hey there, red mage main here! Little history on the job:
Throughout the Final Fantasy series, red mage has always been the "jack of all trades, master of none" job. They couldn't cast 3rd-tier and up of white or black spells, but being able to cast 1st and 2nd tier of both kinds of magic was very useful. They tended to be tankier and faster than a normal mage, but not as tanky as... well, a TANK, or as fast as one of the dex classes, like bard or dancer.
Overall, red mage traded out specializing in any one area of combat (damage output, tankiness, healing output, or speed) for the versatility of doing them all at a slightly reduced capacity. It was generally a more adaptable class, supporting the party in multiple ways, depending on what was needed from moment to moment in a fight.
It plays a little different in FFXIV, but its utility isn't to be overlooked. Party buffs are always great to have, and don't forget that red mage has a magic barrier that can cover the whole party if they're close enough. And of course, having another person in a party with a rez can be invaluable, and that red mage can just instantly cast it whenever they like is pretty dang powerful. Still drains mana like a fire hose when rezzing multiple people but hey, that's what Lucid Dreaming is for, amirite? XD
I literally burst out laughing at the spell speed melds my roommate came to see if I was ok
I'm a red mage and i cry about my low damage >:( also if i do 16 raises per duty i get not a single commendation still
I mained nin for a long time until during shb a buddy who also played ninja (and way better) being a mainstay in our crew inspired me to give rdm a shot since it's what I was using to carry Experts, oh so tired I was of clueless tank/healer duos and still grieving the loss of sb war. I've never looked back, and it's completely true that being able to drag entire alliance raids to a clear felt amazing. You could watch 10 people go down to a mechanic and just start vercure-verraise-swiftcast-verraise-vercure-verraise... and get so many people up. Getting the comms was nice for sure until I got my borb but the thrill of saving the raid was always more amazing. I'm too much of a baby to do savage though, so I haven't experienced the prog benefits beyond ex stuff. Idk what that buildup was for exactly but I enjoyed the commentary and nothing is sticking out in my mind as something I overtly disagreed with. I agree that other casters have definitely caught up to rdm in terms of mobility. blm is almost there, smn is a ranged phys in disguise, and picto has the best dash in the game on a low cd and hammer go bonk. I definitely get the gripes from smn mains that never asked to be lumped together with the support casters. I guess I just don't really care that much that I'm low on a chart when dps checks aren't an issue. I'm aware yoshi said in an interview that they're going to address unexpected high damage with harder dps checks in the future, but I don't think rdm is in an unfair position (I do, however, feel that low dmg ranged phys players should outdamage good tank players, but I guess that's a philosophical viewpoint). What was I talking about? o yeah rdms play rdm bc vape + scorch.mp4 + LB3 = dopamine
I believe in red mage supremacy
In Final Fantasy 5 Red Mage takes 160 ABP just to get to its penultimate level and then grind 999 ABP to learn Dualcast. It is one of the grindiest jobs in that game. And you don't get that job until you get to the second crystal.
In FFXIV Dualcast is a level 1 Red Mage trait. You put your hand on a thin sword, and you automatically learn it.
Red Mage and Samurai were two of my favorites with Controller. They just make intuitive sense. Ironic it was the expansion they ditched an entire console.
Been maining RDM all these years and that still hasn't changed. It's not just my favourite class, but also the one I play best. It's perhaps the only class I can truly play blindfolded if I had to.
Though nothing makes me sadder than saving a wipe and getting 0 comms for it at the end. Has happened before and that always ruins my day. Lol
as a red mage main that has a blue-colored glam, i feel so incredibly seen upon learning larry does the same thing
Every time there's a red mage in my dungeon runs they always seem to know what theyre doing lolol
RDM and MCH are the two most fun jobs to play rotation wise IMO
As a red mage main, I feel very called out. I practically live for getting the opportunity to play raise-bot. When the party falls apart and due to dumb luck it's just me and the tanks left and I'm able to almost singlehandedly raise the entire party... I feel like a GOD.
red mage actually had high dps at the end of last expantion cuz its harder to play then its given credit for so once the fights are mastered thats when it shines
RDM also has an extra mitigation tool for the party!
Red Mage superiority for the win!