I agree. The irony is, she is very very bigoted about her own skin colour. She hates herself so much the way she was born, she needs to cover up, lie about her skin tone, fake that hair. I mean, no-one ever wanted to hang her from a tree, so she only has a deep psychological issue to deal with. Not actual life events which threatened to burn her alive as many many black people still do. I can't stand her fakeness. I actually pity her.
bailey1950 they fired my grandmother from Jefferson Electric in 1954 when she forgot to roll her hair straight that morning. ive heard that story my whole life.
You can easily say the same thing about men who want to be women. I don't care what anybody says it is the exact same situation. You could tell kaitlyn Jenner that he has never experienced being a woman and going through what women have to go through.
my favorite look... she was socially bullied to clap a little, but she wasn't feeling it! It is ok to go against the masses... do not adopt other ppls standards just so u don't stick out! that's the whole point of this racial and social psyops!
Stoatwarbler Mangrove She's a sell out. All the black people accepting this are the same black people who snitched when slaves were planning their big escape. blind people
But I agree with her. Rachel wasn't out here making a mockery of being black. She really did her homework and did good things with it. When Wendy says she's good for our people, I feel like she just means not running around out here like a buffoon like Tom Hanks son, who is certainly not good for our people. That's all.
@@kidnplay3978 nah Wendy's a hypocrite. She's the same person who said zoey saldona isn't black enough but she turns around and accept rachel dolezal! And zoey saldona actually has black ancestry.
I'm still not mad at her either. She was beneficial to black ppl & she was flattered enough by black woman that she wanted to be one. Stop being so damn sensitive, y'all get on my damn nerve.
I agree with Wendy. I think Rachel's heart was in a good place and I do think she sees herself as black. I wish she would have been more honest once things came out. I think people could have been more forgiving if she was just honest.
ur on ur own with that thought... as a black woman we don't need no white woman to come and tell us how strong and beautiful we are! we need each other
Netflix's "The Rachel Divide" brought me me here. Maybe instead of NAACP, the organization should change it to NAABA- National Association for the Advancement of Black Americans, bc there is no more "colored people".
Wow! I understand her emotional state, being and feeling deeply connected to a culture, ethnicity or race that you feel it so much that you identify yourself as it. She has done a great job for our community but I just wish she could have come cleaned at first, coming from an authentic place first.
I think people need to read about race before they talk about it: Not all white people are Caucasian, not all black people are African, not all Jews are Ashkenazim, not all Middle-Easterners are Arabs, and not all far-easterners are Chinese. We can only stop bickering and see the beauty of race when we get over these facts.
Wendy has the correct attitude towards the situation, I don’t get what the problem is. Everyone wants to be forgiven, but nobody wants to forgive. This is a non-issue.
@@camilleespy7395 exactly. You don’t get to call something you don’t understand/agree with a “non-issue.” As a former FBI Profiler, this guy breaks the whole thing down: th-cam.com/video/RsB6GXW7Wb0/w-d-xo.html
I honestly do not care. I think that she is her own person and can lie or identify as any race she likes. Shes not hurting anyone and is in fact an activist. Why do people always have to find something bad in something good? Just stop. Let her do her, I ain't mad and I'm ACTUALLY biracial.
It’s completely bullshit. She isn’t hurting anyone but she is wasting police time with all those bs claims of her being targeted for being black! She is profiting off something she isn’t! Talking about her “struggles”. The struggles she created!
She absolutely did lie multiple times. She was well known in Spokane for telling stories about being black growing up and she lied and made up stories about her past. Does that mean she should be getting death threats and all this other stuff no but it does mean that she absolutely did lie and she did something wrong because you don't lie when you're not fuckin up.
J-WAR maybe it is because even people of all races and countries wear wigs , it's an accessory, brunettes sometimes wanna dye their hair, for a change of look and she wasn't saying it is her HAIR that is bothering a lot of people but they way Rachel keeps twisting her words and making it seem like she was BORN BLACK and acting like she can fully RELATE TO THEIR BLACKNESS when she is genetically white.
Joe T Neither do I. America is a country made up predominately of people whose origins are elsewhere. You don't see Chinese-American, Pakistani-American, British-American, et cetera, listed on government forms for say, fifth or sixth generation immigrants so why are African-Americans singled out? I personally feel it is just another attempt to divide everyone.
It absolutely is. And black people just go with the flow! Of course we are proud of our African heritage! However, percentage wise black people have been in the US longer than any other group of immigrants........ A huge amount of Europeans immigrated in the late 1800s to early 1900s during the Industrial Revolution!
Right? And I don’t want to be reminded that I came from slaves. It’s as if they’re saying, Remember, you come from slaves. I don’t want to hear that shit.
Joe T i think europeans and africans both should use the term ---/american only natives like should be called "americans" because we were the first to own this land. and my comment has nothing to do with race but where you come from.
Most people will be offended by my comment but everyone is talking trash about this woman when in reality it's the SAME thing as a man saying he identifies as a woman when the matter of fact is you are NOT a woman, you are a man & vice versa with a woman wanting to be a man, Biologically it's impossible to be a woman on the inside when you're a man with a penis. Your gender is the same as your sex & this world has gone insane to support people who amputate perfectly normal functioning body parts because of a voice in their head that tells them to and the fact that people who think like me are bashed when they speak up is even more insane because facts don't care about your feelings, in this case you are a white woman weather you feel black or not doesn't matter the fact is you are NOT black, these people need psychological help & I'm not being condescending when I say that.
So many people feel100 % the way you do but now it is almost criminal to admit openly that you do not agree with the masses. The only reason it is not the same treatment right now is because for some time now the whole gay agenda has been out there. society says anything they do is ok and you must accept it. Up until now there hasn't been any public case or big deal about anybody claiming they are another race. Her issue is new and there has been no time for anybody to take up her case and shove it down our throats and Bully us into thinking one way or another about it. That is the only difference. Sorry to say as well You are what you were born as, you may not like it but it is what you are!!!! Bruce's DNA will always say he is male, he will never get a period. He will always be stronger than the average woman. If he stops taking hormones he will revert back to looking more masculine ( he stills looks masculine regardless) . he can never become pregnant. His skeletal frame after he is long gone will tell he was a man!! He is a man simply dressing as a woman no two ways about. It is mental illness!
The correct term is AfroAmerican. African-American is something else. And Wendy is something else all together; talking about their ain't nothing wrong.
The Misanthrope Channel what do u think about the AA term? I mean, I kind of like that it is specific and descriptive. After all, someone who says "I only date black guys," is not gonna mean they date guys that just have dark skin.. If they go on a [blind] date, they are expecting a person who speaks American English, potentially likes r& b and other black American cultural specific things
If she wants to be black, let her be black. Just like if you want to change your gender, you can change your gender. Yes, she shouldn't have lied, but it's a color, so let her choose.
The irony is that there are many black women who wear lighter shades of foundation (even some who use skin bleach!) and wear their hair in straight, blonde or European styles. This woman tans her skin and wears her hair in black style and is demonised for it. The fact she knowingly mislead people about her race is what makes her dodgy so in that sense can completely understand the backlash. But as Wendy says, she appreciates the culture and isn’t being insulting about it, so each to their own.
The difference is that a black woman can do all that and still not be seen or accepted as white. Unless you all the way change like micheal Jackson there is no way we can pass as white unless we are already mixed
I agree. She was "black" by assimilated culture, not by birth. If she accepted and carried it well, then she is probably just as black as most of us. I know she knows more black history than many of us . Btw: calling each other colors is wrong. Whites said calling people red or yellow men was denigrating..then why is it for blacks and whites.
I identify as Rich, famous, skinny and a super model. In reality I am piss poor, no one gives a shit about me. I am about 200lbs and I am too clumsy for runways.
Oh, Wendy, there are definitional differences between Black and African American. The former includes the latter, but the latter does not necessarily include the former. There are socioeconomic issues and the realities of social mobility that are specific to the African American communities, so the distinction isn't just semantics.
I am white and if I was born in the US I would be an African American. Berbers are native north africans and I am of berber descent. I am more african than most black americans because both my parents were born in North africa and so were their parents and ancestors and we still speak our african language called tamazight. However if I was in the US I would be african American but not black american. People don't really understand Africa at all and Wendy is proof of that but then again she isn't just an "african american" she is an american who happens to be black, that is the difference. But I agree with Wendy on Rachel Dolezal. Who the f'''' cares?, White lady wants to be black, let her be black and if she is benefiting becuase of it then there is some black privilage to get rid off. Sorry nobody should get an advantage because of race. Income? Sure, Familiar struggles? Sure, the government should support families struggling but not because of race
Wendy knows damn well that the problem has nothing to do with the lie. The problem has to do with the fact that she wore blackness as a costume she could have been white and done just as much good but instead she decided to put on blackness as a costume. And that's just not cute.
There are people DYING in this world and in the US people talk about this..... Waste of time? There are more important things in this world to worry about. I have traveled to MANY different countries and all Americans do is complain about the stupidest things because there is nothing else to talk about (i.e., immense poverty, food, resources) because they already have it all! Grow up. There is more to life than arguing about "race/ethnicity". Race is important, don't get me wrong, but when there is a headline about it to the point where everyone is talking about it... It is absurd.
I call BS on feeling Black when she was 5 ... she lived in the country in Montana and knew no black people (until her family adopted children when she was much older) nor had tv so how could she identify with somethg she had no experience with?
If someone identifies themselves as an ethnicity or include themself in a culture they weren’t born in, people disagree and use the argument of that’s not who you are; then turn around and support people who change who they are anyway. If you are born as one gender but change your appearance or identify as another gender, are you that because that’s what you identify yourself as and thats what you want to be? Both person identifies as what they aren’t but because like to pick and choose they’ll say why one is ok and the other isn’t and become defensive. Society has made it acceptable to identify as what you are not and then be called authentic. When they do not agree, they criticize. Too many people use that word that to describe themself and I’m not sure if everyone who uses that word really lives up to the meaning.
i think the difference is you can be diagnosed with gender dysphoria and there seems to be a neural backing behind this whereas choosing to be a different race has no medical basis. unsure of specifics though
She draws the obvious parallels in identity shift for someone with a ‘white’ phenotype at birth who identifies as ethnically black and someone who is born with the phenotype of male at birth and wants to transition to being a woman. This is a courageous move. 👏
This is a very interesting question. What exactly defines “race” (ethnicity)? The DNA kits that are available now have shown a large population of people who thought they were 100% European or 100% African or 100% Native American actually have quite diverse bloodlines. Do we go with the “one drop of blood” school of thought or the “majority rules” school of thought? Then we get into ethnic identity for children raised by non-biological parents. I know a family with a black father and white mother who adopted a white child. Their child identifies as white, but LEGALLY she has a black father. Rachel Dolezal has a black man who she CONSIDERS her father, even though he is not her biological father, as well. So is it completely off-base for her to identify as black? This one has me scratching my head. I will say that Ms. Dolezal needs to be careful with the fake tanning if that’s how she has changed her skin tone, as it can lead to serious health issues. But I actually like her hair better curly 😉.
I don't think people should have a problem with how she wants to be identified but I do think we should have a problem with the fact that she lied, and took someone else's spot in that school
I think everyone needs to take a few steps back and chill out for a minute. Black, white, yellow, red, whatever. Screw all that. Why can't we just be colorless. It's a damned shame and an absolute disgrace that we still have these issues in this day and age. When I look at people, I see people first. I don' see their color as a defining attribute. Assholes are assholes, sweet people are sweet people, intelligent people are intelligent people. First. The color doesn't make a difference to me. Everybody's on this woman's case. What about Vanilla Ice? Eminem? The Beasties? What about Donald Fagan? Boz Scaggs? I've heard some white dudes that sounded a whole lot "blacker", "bluesier", "funkier" or whatever. Did they steal album sales from some aspiring black artists? And what about Michael Jackson? Ok - he took a lot of heat for lightening his skin... Anyway, my point is that it's a shame that it even comes to these types of discussions. I have lived my entire adult life in a very white world - europe. 90% of the time I am the only black person around. But I made my way. Yeah, I had to work twice as hard as everyone else, because all eyes are on me. Not one person handed me anything. And if I went by what all the other black people here in Europe constantly say, then I should never have been able to make any kind of meaningful life for my family or myself. That's bs. I'm black by birth, but I identify as human. And that#s the vibe I give off. And that's what gets reciprocated when people - of all colors - interact with me. I don't project any feelings of racial anything. I am good to all people, firm with those who need it, and open and honest and fair to everyone. That's what I get back from PEOPLE. Just people.
I repeat she is not black she can't speak upon experience as a black women when she was never black... She never experienced racial discrimination or judged so no and its not Afrian American because half of blacks slave were from all over the world not just africa ... White people speak upon things that don't offend them ..that's the difference
We must all do foolish things, so when we become wise, we are less boastful. There is no person among us who hasn't or will not bend the truth or lie about a thing in order to get what they want. The lengths we go to protect the lie, to protect ourself from the repercussions, vary according to how far the tale has been spun. This woman is no different except in degree. Perhaps Rachel was bored of her standard life, and seeing what TV black people have to deal with, she found a reason to be, a struggle to engage with, a hurdle to test her stride (she's clearly clever). When I listen to my fellow black people talk about the black experience, in contrast to my own everyday experience, it often reminds me of a costume that we supposedly put on, and perhaps Rachel thought she could mimic that, using the same memes of police and political discrimination. For many of us, being black is expressed as a burden. I get the impression some black people wake up first thing and immediately remember to be 'black'. Politically, I am black, gay, and a woman. If I had to wake up every morning with the weight of those expectations, I'd struggle to make anything of my life. I am a human being, experiencing God's gifts; life, beauty, resolutions, adversity, mercy. This is Rachel's story too, and yours. We must all do foolish things, so when we become wise, we are less boastful.
She is pro black and if she feels black .she is not committing a crime and it is the labeling not that she lied but how many categories on what you claim to be because shehas been that way for such a long time
So answer me this, why has society accepted Bruce Jenner becoming Caitlin Jenner and mostly everybody has accepted that, but now a white woman wants to become a black woman but yet she gets shamed for it...Why? Please tell me what's the difference. Caitlyn Jenner isn't even a "REAL WOMAN" but still got "Woman of the Year" with Time Magazine. Somebody please answer why Rachel is getting sooo much hate for being born white and wants to be black but Caitlyn is getting sooo much love for being born a man and now "tranforms" into a woman. Please explain!!!
Rachel is getting hate because she is trying to act as if he went through an experience that she didn't. She is white genetically. Her parents are white and so is she. She is acting as if she actually and truly understands what it feels like to be discriminated against her entire life and that is not okay because people actually go through that experience. That's why it is not okay. You can't pretend that you went through something you never did. And if someone does try to pretend that they must be mentally ill. The difference is the years of oppression black people have went through and still go through to this day and the fact that white people in America have never been oppressed. And Rachel is trying to act as if she has been oppressed because of her skin color when she knows deep down she never has and she never will. The difference with Caitlin Jenner is that people accept things like that. Things that have to do with gender transitions and being gay and other things are seen as acceptable in our society. The black community will not accept someone who is not black trying to piggyback our struggle but the majority of our society will accept the fact a man wants to change his gender to a woman because nowadays that is seen as normal.
What am I supppsed to see?? Based on the epistle you wrote, one cannot identify as something other than what they are, if they don't have the same experiences as the party/ people/ gender they identify with
I hate how so many people compares transgender experiences to this nonsense. Yes, both are social constructs, but your gender is not inherited, and your race is. You are not a male, female or whatsoever bc your parents are that gender you identify with, but indeed your are black, white, biracial, etc, coz it comes with your heritage. And the problematic thing here is, dat these people who pretend to be other race than their actual race, call themselves "trans racial " giving bad reputation to the actual meaning of being trans racial.
So many people want to be white so what's wrong if she wants to be black? She embraces the culture. Most people always want to be white, a woman wanting to be black is unusual. So let her be!
She is the only white I know of that tried to pass. The role is reversed. I don't understand why she don't like her self. Why don't she embrace being a white woman that happens to love black people. I'm not against the things she does, but I'm totally against the phony lie she has lived There is some really good white people in this country that are all for black people, but they don't lie about who or what they are. This woman makes me sick.
But these are the same people who support Liz Warren. Run them as President and VP candidates. One took a job as black with the NAACP, the other took a job as Native American at a university.
She did nothing wrong but lie? Did i hear that right lying is ok now hmmm! Well i guess not thats why she being questioned had she been truthful she could of kept playing black. Smdh
lovellytoys 'Lying is the part people are most disgusted about.' Don't manipulate people's words - she knows lying is wrong and that's why she said it,
+Sophie Jackson No, she got CAUGHT lying. She got exposed as pretending to be a black woman, while being a higher up in the NAACP and getting money while telling her 'struggles' as a black woman.
You know what I dont get. Why didnt rachel just say she was a "wigger"? I mean you see it all the time white people acting like they are black getting braids talking ghetto/hood but ive never heard them say I identify as black. Soo basically Rachel Dolezal is taking it to the next level. I would have said Im white but im more into black culture. But to lie and try to look black and say you were born that way is so wrong.
If you see her parents interviewed, they said she wanted to be Black ever since she was four years old and even painted gorgeous, abstract self-portraits portraying herself as Black with lots of braids. (She’s always had a talent for art.) I look at her this way: If Gentiles can convert to Judaism and call themselves Jews forever afterward (converts are never asked to reveal if they have been Jewish from birth), I think Rachel just sort of “converted” to being Black. Race is a false construct anyway, made for the purpose of the discrimination of all ethnicities other than Anglo-Saxon.
Exactly tho, who cares what color the point is her actions, and if she has helped as an advocate for ppl that need help then literally wtf is the problem, judge actions not color
Honestly, as someone who is half Hispanic and half white (though I'm what most would call "white-passing"), I don't see why everyone can't be proud of their true racial identity. I respect Wendy for not criticizing Rachel for holding high regard for African American identity, but Rachel really needs to learn to appreciate who she really is. She should really try to embrace her true Czech, German, and Swedish roots as well.
Race and gender aren’t the same. Gender is you and you only. Race and ethnicity is you and your family’s history. You can’t change that no matter how you feel, and lying because you identify with certain stereotypes associated with a race is not okay.
the question is if she was alive in 1945 in Germany would she choose to be black
SurviventheOnslaught Fuck Germany in 1945 just black in America period!!!
Your not black period
Would she identify as Black American as a white American living in Germany in the year the Nazis were defeated?
That's just a very bizarre question
Wrong question. The right question would be: would she pretend to be black in 1960s America?
But she wasn't born back there. It would have been a whole different person
As a mixed person with grandparents who had to "pass" as white in a very bigoted society. I DO have a BIG problem with it.
I agree. The irony is, she is very very bigoted about her own skin colour. She hates herself so much the way she was born, she needs to cover up, lie about her skin tone, fake that hair. I mean, no-one ever wanted to hang her from a tree, so she only has a deep psychological issue to deal with. Not actual life events which threatened to burn her alive as many many black people still do.
I can't stand her fakeness. I actually pity her.
bailey1950 they fired my grandmother from Jefferson Electric in 1954 when she forgot to roll her hair straight that morning. ive heard that story my whole life.
Can I ask you why you have a problem with I it? I seriously don't see why it's a big deal but maybe because I dont understand it.
You can easily say the same thing about men who want to be women. I don't care what anybody says it is the exact same situation. You could tell kaitlyn Jenner that he has never experienced being a woman and going through what women have to go through.
Melissa King white people were never forced to pass as another race to gain the same opportunities as the majority.
She wants to be black why can't she just say that? She ain't fooling me
She lied about being black ,but if she got pregnant for a white man their children would be white .
The black girl to the left at 4:06 when Wendy said "let her be black" lmaooooooo
Rosario Colon she will never be black. She was born white so deal with it.
my favorite look... she was socially bullied to clap a little, but she wasn't feeling it! It is ok to go against the masses... do not adopt other ppls standards just so u don't stick out! that's the whole point of this racial and social psyops!
Wendy, to say that she is good for your people tells me that you do not know what you are talking about.
Stoatwarbler Mangrove She's a sell out. All the black people accepting this are the same black people who snitched when slaves were planning their big escape. blind people
Stoatwarbler Mangrove thank you
oh she knows.... its her job to side with this shit, but its great cause it lets the ppl who knows the truth know what is up with this situation.
But I agree with her. Rachel wasn't out here making a mockery of being black. She really did her homework and did good things with it. When Wendy says she's good for our people, I feel like she just means not running around out here like a buffoon like Tom Hanks son, who is certainly not good for our people. That's all.
@@kidnplay3978 nah Wendy's a hypocrite. She's the same person who said zoey saldona isn't black enough but she turns around and accept rachel dolezal! And zoey saldona actually has black ancestry.
I'm still not mad at her either. She was beneficial to black ppl & she was flattered enough by black woman that she wanted to be one. Stop being so damn sensitive, y'all get on my damn nerve.
You are so right!!!
I agree with Wendy. I think Rachel's heart was in a good place and I do think she sees herself as black. I wish she would have been more honest once things came out. I think people could have been more forgiving if she was just honest.
People may mock her, but she sees the value of blackness which Black people have been taught to hate - this is something to think about!
ur on ur own with that thought... as a black woman we don't need no white woman to come and tell us how strong and beautiful we are! we need each other
@@michelletaylor3140 Judging by the likes 👍 Zack isn’t on his own with his thoughts, and I agree with him!
@@sandybeveridge5692 Shut up.
Netflix's "The Rachel Divide" brought me me here. Maybe instead of NAACP, the organization should change it to NAABA- National Association for the Advancement of Black Americans, bc there is no more "colored people".
And she Still doesn't need to be apart.
I grew up in Spokane! I remember this! It was an embarrassment to the whole city at the time!!!
Wow! I understand her emotional state, being and feeling deeply connected to a culture, ethnicity or race that you feel it so much that you identify yourself as it. She has done a great job for our community but I just wish she could have come cleaned at first, coming from an authentic place first.
Memories from a past life bleed through.
I think people need to read about race before they talk about it:
Not all white people are Caucasian, not all black people are African, not all Jews are Ashkenazim, not all Middle-Easterners are Arabs, and not all far-easterners are Chinese. We can only stop bickering and see the beauty of race when we get over these facts.
Wendy has the correct attitude towards the situation, I don’t get what the problem is. Everyone wants to be forgiven, but nobody wants to forgive. This is a non-issue.
You don’t get it because you’re not black
@@camilleespy7395 exactly. You don’t get to call something you don’t understand/agree with a “non-issue.”
As a former FBI Profiler, this guy breaks the whole thing down:
th-cam.com/video/RsB6GXW7Wb0/w-d-xo.html
I’m with Wendy!
I honestly do not care. I think that she is her own person and can lie or identify as any race she likes. Shes not hurting anyone and is in fact an activist. Why do people always have to find something bad in something good? Just stop. Let her do her, I ain't mad and I'm ACTUALLY biracial.
It’s completely bullshit.
She isn’t hurting anyone but she is wasting police time with all those bs claims of her being targeted for being black!
She is profiting off something she isn’t!
Talking about her “struggles”. The struggles she created!
I'm biracial too and I think the same
She didnt lie she just didnt tell the truth about her race but i feel she did nothing wrong
But she DID lie. She told people in town and at work that she was black and made up fake stories about her pasr.
She absolutely did lie multiple times. She was well known in Spokane for telling stories about being black growing up and she lied and made up stories about her past. Does that mean she should be getting death threats and all this other stuff no but it does mean that she absolutely did lie and she did something wrong because you don't lie when you're not fuckin up.
I agree with Wendy lol but I could never come out in public and do and say what Rachel did.
Love that moment when Wendy asks the 'lady in the green dress', what's wrong with being white? And I thought, that not white, that orange...
Her parents said that she was lied about everything she said.. she never drew her self as a black child.
I think she should apologize to all black women firstly and then ask if she can be accepted as an honorary black woman,lol
Nobody got a problem with this black woman with long, strait , blonde hair extensions?
J-WAR maybe it is because even people of all races and countries wear wigs , it's an accessory, brunettes sometimes wanna dye their hair, for a change of look and she wasn't saying it is her HAIR that is bothering a lot of people but they way Rachel keeps twisting her words and making it seem like she was BORN BLACK and acting like she can fully RELATE TO THEIR BLACKNESS when she is genetically white.
J-WAR she doesn't claim that she is white
People can get what ever hair color they want! Does mean they're trying to pass as another race.
Ashley sal Really? please provide a link to where a 100% African matches a 100% Europeans hair.
If she wants to be black then let her be a black.
Being black isn’t a costume , it’s a real thing 🤦🏽♂️
Wendy's logic is on the floor.
Wendy, I don't like the term "African American " either. What about European American? No one wants that?
Joe T
Neither do I. America is a country made up predominately of people whose origins are elsewhere. You don't see Chinese-American, Pakistani-American, British-American, et cetera, listed on government forms for say, fifth or sixth generation immigrants so why are African-Americans singled out? I personally feel it is just another attempt to divide everyone.
It absolutely is. And black people just go with the flow! Of course we are proud of our African heritage! However, percentage wise black people have been in the US longer than any other group of immigrants........ A huge amount of Europeans immigrated in the late 1800s to early 1900s during the Industrial Revolution!
Right? And I don’t want to be reminded that I came from slaves. It’s as if they’re saying, Remember, you come from slaves. I don’t want to hear that shit.
Joe T i think europeans and africans both should use the term ---/american
only natives like should be called "americans" because we were the first to own this land. and my comment has nothing to do with race but where you come from.
Who cares if she really isnt black?!! I certainly don't care! She's been instrumental to our community !
+Scoring57 you are ignorant. The person posting was ACCEPTING of Rachel and you knocked her because reading was NOT fundamental to you.
+queenbeethatsme100 Thank you for pointing that out!
I agree lol
bitch shut up
sellout
2 seconds in- Am I the only one seeing the brunette in the front row elbow-jabbing her blonde friend and saying “Just clap” 😂😂😂😂
Most people will be offended by my comment but everyone is talking trash about this woman when in reality it's the SAME thing as a man saying he identifies as a woman when the matter of fact is you are NOT a woman, you are a man & vice versa with a woman wanting to be a man, Biologically it's impossible to be a woman on the inside when you're a man with a penis. Your gender is the same as your sex & this world has gone insane to support people who amputate perfectly normal functioning body parts because of a voice in their head that tells them to and the fact that people who think like me are bashed when they speak up is even more insane because facts don't care about your feelings, in this case you are a white woman weather you feel black or not doesn't matter the fact is you are NOT black, these people need psychological help & I'm not being condescending when I say that.
So many people feel100 % the way you do but now it is almost criminal to admit openly that you do not agree with the masses. The only reason it is not the same treatment right now is because for some time now the whole gay agenda has been out there. society says anything they do is ok and you must accept it. Up until now there hasn't been any public case or big deal about anybody claiming they are another race. Her issue is new and there has been no time for anybody to take up her case and shove it down our throats and Bully us into thinking one way or another about it. That is the only difference. Sorry to say as well You are what you were born as, you may not like it but it is what you are!!!! Bruce's DNA will always say he is male, he will never get a period. He will always be stronger than the average woman. If he stops taking hormones he will revert back to looking more masculine ( he stills looks masculine regardless) . he can never become pregnant. His skeletal frame after he is long gone will tell he was a man!! He is a man simply dressing as a woman no two ways about. It is mental illness!
I agree 100%
We miss you Wendy😢
The correct term is AfroAmerican. African-American is something else. And Wendy is something else all together; talking about their ain't nothing wrong.
The Misanthrope Channel what do u think about the AA term? I mean, I kind of like that it is specific and descriptive. After all, someone who says "I only date black guys," is not gonna mean they date guys that just have dark skin.. If they go on a [blind] date, they are expecting a person who speaks American English, potentially likes r& b and other black American cultural specific things
If she wants to be black, let her be black. Just like if you want to change your gender, you can change your gender. Yes, she shouldn't have lied, but it's a color, so let her choose.
The irony is that there are many black women who wear lighter shades of foundation (even some who use skin bleach!) and wear their hair in straight, blonde or European styles. This woman tans her skin and wears her hair in black style and is demonised for it.
The fact she knowingly mislead people about her race is what makes her dodgy so in that sense can completely understand the backlash. But as Wendy says, she appreciates the culture and isn’t being insulting about it, so each to their own.
The difference is that a black woman can do all that and still not be seen or accepted as white. Unless you all the way change like micheal Jackson there is no way we can pass as white unless we are already mixed
@@camilleespy7395 well she wasn’t excepted as black, so 🤷♀️
I agree. She was "black" by assimilated culture, not by birth. If she accepted and carried it well, then she is probably just as black as most of us.
I know she knows more black history than many of us .
Btw: calling each other colors is wrong. Whites said calling people red or yellow men was denigrating..then why is it for blacks and whites.
I identify as Rich, famous, skinny and a super model. In reality I am piss poor, no one gives a shit about me. I am about 200lbs and I am too clumsy for runways.
She was FIRED wasn't she? Didn't resign!
Oh, Wendy, there are definitional differences between Black and African American. The former includes the latter, but the latter does not necessarily include the former. There are socioeconomic issues and the realities of social mobility that are specific to the African American communities, so the distinction isn't just semantics.
I am white and if I was born in the US I would be an African American. Berbers are native north africans and I am of berber descent. I am more african than most black americans because both my parents were born in North africa and so were their parents and ancestors and we still speak our african language called tamazight. However if I was in the US I would be african American but not black american. People don't really understand Africa at all and Wendy is proof of that but then again she isn't just an "african american" she is an american who happens to be black, that is the difference. But I agree with Wendy on Rachel Dolezal. Who the f'''' cares?, White lady wants to be black, let her be black and if she is benefiting becuase of it then there is some black privilage to get rid off. Sorry nobody should get an advantage because of race. Income? Sure, Familiar struggles? Sure, the government should support families struggling but not because of race
Wendy knows damn well that the problem has nothing to do with the lie. The problem has to do with the fact that she wore blackness as a costume she could have been white and done just as much good but instead she decided to put on blackness as a costume. And that's just not cute.
I can’t believe what’s coming out of Wendy’s mouth, this is the biggest black face insult there is .
There are people DYING in this world and in the US people talk about this..... Waste of time? There are more important things in this world to worry about. I have traveled to MANY different countries and all Americans do is complain about the stupidest things because there is nothing else to talk about (i.e., immense poverty, food, resources) because they already have it all! Grow up. There is more to life than arguing about "race/ethnicity". Race is important, don't get me wrong, but when there is a headline about it to the point where everyone is talking about it... It is absurd.
I call BS on feeling Black when she was 5 ... she lived in the country in Montana and knew no black people (until her family adopted children when she was much older) nor had tv so how could she identify with somethg she had no experience with?
Well said Wendy!
If someone identifies themselves as an ethnicity or include themself in a culture they weren’t born in, people disagree and use the argument of that’s not who you are; then turn around and support people who change who they are anyway.
If you are born as one gender but change your appearance or identify as another gender, are you that because that’s what you identify yourself as and thats what you want to be?
Both person identifies as what they aren’t but because like to pick and choose they’ll say why one is ok and the other isn’t and become defensive. Society has made it acceptable to identify as what you are not and then be called authentic. When they do not agree, they criticize. Too many people use that word that to describe themself and I’m not sure if everyone who uses that word really lives up to the meaning.
i think the difference is you can be diagnosed with gender dysphoria and there seems to be a neural backing behind this whereas choosing to be a different race has no medical basis. unsure of specifics though
Dude she's WHITE
She draws the obvious parallels in identity shift for someone with a ‘white’ phenotype at birth who identifies as ethnically black and someone who is born with the phenotype of male at birth and wants to transition to being a woman. This is a courageous move. 👏
shes got serious mental health issues
Why is this even a big deal? She is who she wants to be
I definitely love the way GOD made me! Thank you some much, wouldn't want it any other way.
Amen 🙏
I feel like you I aint mad at her, ,She's done alot,,ppl do it with Native Americans alot,,let her slide,,,nobody got mad at MJ
This is a very interesting question. What exactly defines “race” (ethnicity)? The DNA kits that are available now have shown a large population of people who thought they were 100% European or 100% African or 100% Native American actually have quite diverse bloodlines. Do we go with the “one drop of blood” school of thought or the “majority rules” school of thought?
Then we get into ethnic identity for children raised by non-biological parents. I know a family with a black father and white mother who adopted a white child. Their child identifies as white, but LEGALLY she has a black father. Rachel Dolezal has a black man who she CONSIDERS her father, even though he is not her biological father, as well. So is it completely off-base for her to identify as black?
This one has me scratching my head. I will say that Ms. Dolezal needs to be careful with the fake tanning if that’s how she has changed her skin tone, as it can lead to serious health issues. But I actually like her hair better curly 😉.
People do not like to be deceived.
I don't think people should have a problem with how she wants to be identified but I do think we should have a problem with the fact that she lied, and took someone else's spot in that school
I think everyone needs to take a few steps back and chill out for a minute. Black, white, yellow, red, whatever. Screw all that. Why can't we just be colorless. It's a damned shame and an absolute disgrace that we still have these issues in this day and age. When I look at people, I see people first. I don' see their color as a defining attribute. Assholes are assholes, sweet people are sweet people, intelligent people are intelligent people. First. The color doesn't make a difference to me. Everybody's on this woman's case. What about Vanilla Ice? Eminem? The Beasties? What about Donald Fagan? Boz Scaggs? I've heard some white dudes that sounded a whole lot "blacker", "bluesier", "funkier" or whatever. Did they steal album sales from some aspiring black artists? And what about Michael Jackson? Ok - he took a lot of heat for lightening his skin... Anyway, my point is that it's a shame that it even comes to these types of discussions. I have lived my entire adult life in a very white world - europe. 90% of the time I am the only black person around. But I made my way. Yeah, I had to work twice as hard as everyone else, because all eyes are on me. Not one person handed me anything. And if I went by what all the other black people here in Europe constantly say, then I should never have been able to make any kind of meaningful life for my family or myself. That's bs. I'm black by birth, but I identify as human. And that#s the vibe I give off. And that's what gets reciprocated when people - of all colors - interact with me. I don't project any feelings of racial anything. I am good to all people, firm with those who need it, and open and honest and fair to everyone. That's what I get back from PEOPLE. Just people.
There's no difference between this and men who say they're women 🤷🏻♀️
DON'T EVER MISGENDER CAITLYN JENNER. SHE/HER, periodt👏🏾
Nothing wrong except lie about multiple fake hate crimes🤣🤣
I repeat she is not black she can't speak upon experience as a black women when she was never black... She never experienced racial discrimination or judged so no and its not Afrian American because half of blacks slave were from all over the world not just africa ... White people speak upon things that don't offend them ..that's the difference
Wendy is a dude.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wendy W she's almost white too and nobody talks about that . Nothing wrong with her trying to be black or Wendy W trying to look white
What's looking white? The dry hair, fake tits and bad cosmetic procedures not to mention that odd body shape???? Yes, that's how silly it sounds.
If someone says race isn't biological one more time... I swear to shit
White people need to stop 🛑 trying to be wat y’all are not going to be black no matter wat u do
Wendy's follows her like sheep smh it's like whatever she says they clap
We must all do foolish things, so when we become wise, we are less boastful. There is no person among us who hasn't or will not bend the truth or lie about a thing in order to get what they want. The lengths we go to protect the lie, to protect ourself from the repercussions, vary according to how far the tale has been spun. This woman is no different except in degree.
Perhaps Rachel was bored of her standard life, and seeing what TV black people have to deal with, she found a reason to be, a struggle to engage with, a hurdle to test her stride (she's clearly clever).
When I listen to my fellow black people talk about the black experience, in contrast to my own everyday experience, it often reminds me of a costume that we supposedly put on, and perhaps Rachel thought she could mimic that, using the same memes of police and political discrimination. For many of us, being black is expressed as a burden. I get the impression some black people wake up first thing and immediately remember to be 'black'.
Politically, I am black, gay, and a woman. If I had to wake up every morning with the weight of those expectations, I'd struggle to make anything of my life. I am a human being, experiencing God's gifts; life, beauty, resolutions, adversity, mercy. This is Rachel's story too, and yours. We must all do foolish things, so when we become wise, we are less boastful.
@ Jenny Bardoville wow your words and sentiments are full of compassion and empathy. Bless you and your kind spirit.
well spoken wendy
Wendy is such a smart lady. I love her!
0:47 that is all I needed!😂
Miss you Wendy!!! ❤️❤️❤️
I identify as a fucking wall. Don't lean on me...
She is pro black and if she feels black .she is not committing a crime and it is the labeling not that she lied but how many categories on what you claim to be because shehas been that way for such a long time
I identify as a Martian.
I finally agree with wendy!
So answer me this, why has society accepted Bruce Jenner becoming Caitlin Jenner and mostly everybody has accepted that, but now a white woman wants to become a black woman but yet she gets shamed for it...Why? Please tell me what's the difference. Caitlyn Jenner isn't even a "REAL WOMAN" but still got "Woman of the Year" with Time Magazine. Somebody please answer why Rachel is getting sooo much hate for being born white and wants to be black but Caitlyn is getting sooo much love for being born a man and now "tranforms" into a woman. Please explain!!!
Rachel is getting hate because she is trying to act as if he went through an experience that she didn't. She is white genetically. Her parents are white and so is she. She is acting as if she actually and truly understands what it feels like to be discriminated against her entire life and that is not okay because people actually go through that experience. That's why it is not okay. You can't pretend that you went through something you never did. And if someone does try to pretend that they must be mentally ill. The difference is the years of oppression black people have went through and still go through to this day and the fact that white people in America have never been oppressed. And Rachel is trying to act as if she has been oppressed because of her skin color when she knows deep down she never has and she never will. The difference with Caitlin Jenner is that people accept things like that. Things that have to do with gender transitions and being gay and other things are seen as acceptable in our society. The black community will not accept someone who is not black trying to piggyback our struggle but the majority of our society will accept the fact a man wants to change his gender to a woman because nowadays that is seen as normal.
Purple so does Bruce know what it's like to be treated (discriminated against) as a woman in certain situations or environments???
Idk. See for yourself.
What am I supppsed to see?? Based on the epistle you wrote, one cannot identify as something other than what they are, if they don't have the same experiences as the party/ people/ gender they identify with
AMEN BROTHER AMEN!!!!
I hate how so many people compares transgender experiences to this nonsense. Yes, both are social constructs, but your gender is not inherited, and your race is. You are not a male, female or whatsoever bc your parents are that gender you identify with, but indeed your are black, white, biracial, etc, coz it comes with your heritage.
And the problematic thing here is, dat these people who pretend to be other race than their actual race, call themselves "trans racial " giving bad reputation to the actual meaning of being trans racial.
So many people want to be white so what's wrong if she wants to be black? She embraces the culture. Most people always want to be white, a woman wanting to be black is unusual. So let her be!
amanda sales i know only 1 blak girl who straightens her hair but even she doesnt wanna be white
Race is so much more complex than gender. Just sayin...
Wendy can't be mad , because she does the same thing lol
Matt lauer really acts superior, dosent he?
Which made his fall all the more spectacular.
She is the only white I know of that tried to pass. The role is reversed. I don't understand why she don't like her self. Why don't she embrace being a white woman that happens to love black people. I'm not against the things she does, but I'm totally against the phony lie she has lived There is some really good white people in this country that are all for black people, but they don't lie about who or what they are. This woman makes me sick.
But these are the same people who support Liz Warren. Run them as President and VP candidates. One took a job as black with the NAACP, the other took a job as Native American at a university.
She used "black privilege" without being black.
She did nothing wrong but lie? Did i hear that right lying is ok now hmmm! Well i guess not thats why she being questioned had she been truthful she could of kept playing black. Smdh
lovellytoys 'Lying is the part people are most disgusted about.'
Don't manipulate people's words - she knows lying is wrong and that's why she said it,
+Sophie Jackson No, she got CAUGHT lying. She got exposed as pretending to be a black woman, while being a higher up in the NAACP and getting money while telling her 'struggles' as a black woman.
She is crazy.
When people see her as white! She speaks about herself in the 3rd party she's nuts!
I love her 💗
You know what I dont get. Why didnt rachel just say she was a "wigger"? I mean you see it all the time white people acting like they are black getting braids talking ghetto/hood but ive never heard them say I identify as black. Soo basically Rachel Dolezal is taking it to the next level. I would have said Im white but im more into black culture. But to lie and try to look black and say you were born that way is so wrong.
You don’t do your Homework YOU ARE YOUR HOMEWORK DISGUSTING
I still can’t believe Netflix gave her the time of day smh this shit is sad
If you see her parents interviewed, they said she wanted to be Black ever since she was four years old and even painted gorgeous, abstract self-portraits portraying herself as Black with lots of braids. (She’s always had a talent for art.) I look at her this way: If Gentiles can convert to Judaism and call themselves Jews forever afterward (converts are never asked to reveal if they have been Jewish from birth), I think Rachel just sort of “converted” to being Black. Race is a false construct anyway, made for the purpose of the discrimination of all ethnicities other than Anglo-Saxon.
Dont gotta lie 2 Kick it...
I'm sorry but Wendy Fucking Williams is in no place to criticize Rachel so she better not say anything critical
Damn we’re really dead naming out here...
I love Wendy. Rational is in such short supply.
I was born mexican but i identify as a tomato
she forgot everything comes out to the light.And as bright as she is ,yall better get some shades
wendy need to quit... of course she would bring this into the public embracing her cause Rachel is part of the agenda! Wendy i see u boo
This was not that big of a deal in Spokane. It was a story, but it wasn't like everyone was talking about it.
she does what she consider important, everyone of us identifies as we want, why do the people don't undertand that????
Exactly tho, who cares what color the point is her actions, and if she has helped as an advocate for ppl that need help then literally wtf is the problem, judge actions not color
props Wendy
Honestly, as someone who is half Hispanic and half white (though I'm what most would call "white-passing"), I don't see why everyone can't be proud of their true racial identity. I respect Wendy for not criticizing Rachel for holding high regard for African American identity, but Rachel really needs to learn to appreciate who she really is. She should really try to embrace her true Czech, German, and Swedish roots as well.
Funny, Michael Jackson didn't need to get promision to be a white
Wendy Williams is silly. I was going to write something stronger but I've decided not to be mean.
Race and gender aren’t the same. Gender is you and you only. Race and ethnicity is you and your family’s history. You can’t change that no matter how you feel, and lying because you identify with certain stereotypes associated with a race is not okay.