Sad day for DMZ, but I believe there is hope for an even better DMZ in a future Call of Duty... DMZ has been and still is so much fun. I plan on continuing to make DMZ content in 2024 despite this sad news.
@dc8061 you're dreaming if you think this news isn't the end of dmz. It won't retain enough players. WZ1 was orders of magnitude more popular and look what happened.
I'm no psychiatrist but I can imagine you're feeling a little hollow today bro but just want to say you've been so great to watch play DMZ. And I hope you don't feel like you've wasted that time. Genuinely it's been amazing. You're a legend of the game and I can't wait to CONTINUE watching you play DMZ, as well as other modes and games. You're a top streamer bro! X
DMZ was honestly one of the most enjoyable gaming experiences i have had in years, which is something i didnt think id say about anything CoD related, but imo this was to be expected. Im sure DMZ will return one day, but who knows when or how that will happen. The silver lining of all this is that i dont have to buy the mw3 now after this is confirmed 😅
Yeah the only thing i wanted from MW3 were new guns and map for DMZ. Zombies could have also been cool had they bothered to put even the slightest amount of effort to it.
Me too. I obsessed about it and getting the missions completed. Now that I have max rep in all of the factions it seems as though there is not much point. I have no intentions of getting MW3 or spending anymore money in that game. I doubt I would come back to COD without a game mode like DMZ! I just hope there are a lot of people out there that feel the same way and it hits them in the bank account.
What made DMZ special isnt just that its an extraction shooter (in fact extracting isnt the most vital thing to it, since you dont lose much). What made DMZ remarkable was the fast paced nature that would have you moving around looting and killing many bots, with constant action and the most important thing: unpredictability. You could start a match with one of many goals in mind and you would end up doing something different depending on the circumstances. Such a unique feeling
thats exactly what made it terrible tho. as it wasnt even an extraction shooter at that point. it was just straight up a BR lite game mode in the sense. And then to top it all off. Their AI system was a joke... Dont build a extraction based shooter unless you have systems in place to provide fun investment into. Because decent gunplay wont hold your interest forever. thats exactly what makes tarkov so great. they have you steadily progressing tasks granted some of them are a bit shit. but also progressively building a stash of equipment. Essentially it boiled down to a severe lack of the main part of what the game was supposed to be "extracting loot" as well as a not so impressive mission system
What you are describing, is literally quite literally war mode lmfao the fast rotations is not what made it good it was the hard-core environment. Small mistakes got you killed It was actually much harder than Warzone because in Warzone, you can respawn in DMZ you can’t it’s GGs try again next game
@@JohnJohn-bz1lq hardcore. bruh there was nothing hardcore about it. if this is hardcore then EFT is a straight up hell. nah man it was easy and annoying in certain areas but it offered zero challenge. you lost nothing you gained nothing. besides what.. freaking keys. weapons that never mattered cause AI was always broken in some way and cheaters were out in full force
They should have put less players though, last time I played it ages ago there was no way to extract withoht killing 1-3 squads. This made the mode not very accessible to noobs and just warzone with bots that occasional annoy you.
The problem about DMZ is that mainstream streamers didn't want it to be popular, it was popular amongst casual below average to average players, myself included. I checked at my stats and I spent more time in DMZ than what I did with Warzone, I'm an average-above average player and I truly enjoyed DMZ but the sad reality was that. Do wanted to thank you for making content about DMZ I played with you one time in BLDG21 without knowing lol and it was great to share the experience with you, keep it up, thanks man!
DMZ was the most innovative mode to have been added in many years. It also introduced me to some of the best content creators and the most exciting content from Call of Duty. I will continue to both watch and support and, with a little luck, bump into you (I will be the one yelling FRIENDLY into my mic).
I've been playing DMZ since it launched with Season 1 of MWII and WZ2, I've watched the entire lifecycle of this game and what I can say is that the main problem that held the mode back was the excessively toxic PvP. PvP isn't a bad thing but people who only play to hunt others was definitely holding back all the good things DMZ brought as a mode. Although it wont be receiving new content, I'll never forget the great moments I had in this mode.
It lacked rules of engagement built into the mode by the devs. The players themselves actually killed the game. No need in coding and developing missions if 90% of the lobby just PvPd.
I wasn’t a DMZ pro or anything but those moments being hunted by those PvP players were what made the game mode exciting as it was. It forced you to 1. Become good at killing 2. Become good at running. Wouldn’t mind seeing this gamemode return.
Im not a c.o.d fan but after 15 years gaming, this was the game mode that got me into c.o.d. i was crap at first but after trying to keep up with my mate who played c.o.d for years, i got into multiple player to help learn movement, which guns work for me. Dmz has also brought me a lot of people with complete unique experiences. Ill still be playing rhis untill another extractor shooter becomes available for consoles.
same here. haven't played COD since advanced warfare, and played only the campaign there. so DMZ brought me back to COD. I've bought MW2 and a few bundles because of it. Well, no more financial support from me, Activision.
@@I-am-saT I'm with both of you. Came back to COD after years of not playing any PvP FPS games. DMZ brought me back to life, started getting good and really enjoying it, bought a few of the operator packs with DMZ perks and naturally pre-ordered MW3 thinking DMZ would very well continue on...as they said 'everything would carry forward'. Once the doubts about DMZ started setting in, I started regretting purchasing operator bundles and preordering MW3 overall. The guns, 15 minute cooldowns, free UAVs/2plate carriers/self rez's are all essentially worthless now. Lesson learned, I will never drop another dime on anything COD related. Now that I have MW3, I will play it, but no more money from me. Also, DMZ is still pretty fun even now, but it is strictly just PVP now.
I enjoyed it when it first came out but like you said when people didn’t care anymore and just ran around specifically for PvP then to me it became annoying. I liked the initial mix of both PvE and PvP and when that died dmz was no longer for me
People did not do missions, because there were none to do... me and my buddy finished most before even the new season came out with like 10 new, and some of the hardest ones were usually bugged.@@ntdavis96
I stopped playing for 3 reasons: 1) Building 21, Ashika and Vondel were small and PVP heavy. Leaving just Al Mazrah through the entire year as the only map I wanted to play in. Worse still was the fog on those maps which made it feel drab and uninteresting, even though they had some cool designs it didn't feel fun to explore because you couldn't see more than a block ahead of you anyway. 2) PVP was cool and worked for the weapon cases but should have been discouraged more. Something had to be done about players that just camped the exfils, make them lose their stuff if they didn't complete at least 1 contract or kill 1 commander OR maybe hide the exfils until they completed either a commander kill or a contract, something that would prevent exfil camping. 3) The mission resets and insured weapon slot reset was the final nail. I felt like all the work I put into the game was pointless and they'll just wipe again in the future anyway so I just stopped playing. I went to the kosheki complex once but as a soloist it was stressful because it seemed to be team orientated even though it encouraged PVP? I mean just play warzone if you like PVP so much, it's way more fun if you want an intense in your face fight.
Phix the title should be DMZ is officially getting no more updates, this title is something we all talked about in chat. This is making a claim that DMZ is actually dead, its not and the servers will remain open. Every streamer want's to shed the darkest news, in the darkest way. What about the sentence where they said they will be using the DMZ content, for a future game mode, thats pretty positive. I did not watch this video, because the title is just click bait, I respect you as a streamer, and you've been one of my favorites for over a year now, don't fall into this false feeding... When DMZ won't load you into a server, or takes several minutes then we can claim it is dead.
DMZ is an amazing mode, and it's too bad it's not going to be supported anymore, hopefully it gets a second iteration. I do believe zombies stole a lot of those players that disliked the pvp elements
I just want to say thank you Phix it’s been a great ride man I met you and a bunch of other amazing content creators to DMZ after the servers are shut down, I’ll be going back to Fortnite, unfortunately, call of duty has nothing else to offer for me, but until then, DMZ will be a daily routine
I started DMZ late season 2 and have been hooked since then, playing every night with friends. I still have upgrades and missions to do, so I'll keep playing. A pity it won't get updates, but at least it's being supported (whatever that really means). I'd happily pay full price for a standalone DMZ, maybe getting a new map every 6 months and new missions/upgrades every 3. TBH, in this current economy it wouldn't surprise me if Activision followed the DMZ news with staff cuts like many other gaming companies have been doing lately. GG, Phix. Still here for the content :)
It's the players fault in a sense. Becoming so sweaty spawn hunting losers, caused the developers to probably view this more as a mini warzone/warzone junior. which in their eyes, makes it a WASTE OF MONEY. Blame it on the players who chose to simply not play warzone once they finished the faction missions. Y'all ruined it. Intent #1 was missions Intent number 2 was PVP.
All my COD days been playing team deathmatch. I came to dmz only to unlock m13b and been stuck ever since. I tried going back to team deathmatch and I quickly quit went straight back to al mazrah. It just brings a different element to playing the game. I'd really hate to see it go
Phix, started watching you by accident back in May. My daughter was just born and I was learning about live streamers and it just so happens I was and still a big DMZer. Great take on this and always watching… El Claptain made it sound like his parents were grounding him for the summer for getting bad grades. He’s never playing again, DMZ is dead… Geez
Agreed. They're both my favorite streamers for DMZ content, so I didn't appreciate Claptain's take. I get it, but like Phixate says, I'm still enjoying it and I'm not particularly great. Maybe decent lol.
The best part about DMZ coming from playing Tarkov heavily was that it was legitimately “Tarkov Lite” the ability to just chill and take your time, PVE and PVP was great. And Queuing was quick! Something Tarkov is not.
You're right, they can't un-sell the broken operators with 15 min insured cooldowns and free UAV's. They have to start over with a totally different rebranded new game, hopefully they will. DMZ was the only part of COD MW I played and I'm guessing the player base is going to start shrinking. PVP has been getting a little too intense for my taste. The balance feels off.
Got to agree, season 1 & 2 were the best, so many good memories from those seasons. Way before it got too sweaty. Sad to hear this news but it is kind of expected given what we already know. Also happy to hear you will continue on with DMZ. Good luck!
I"m really sad to see DMZ go. As much as I'd like to be optimistic about another DMZ, it's hard when it seems like it was just a test for MWZ mechanics. Thanks for being such a legend of DMZ!
DMZ might be dead, but I'm thankful that I met you through it, I really like your personality and hope there's great content and life in the future for you.
They should just split the Call of Duty universe into three and let the three main developers take a different section. IW/Raven can do Warzone and DMZ. Sledgehammer focus on Multiplayer and Treyarch do Zombies and Campaign. At least then each section will have a full team developing it. Multiplayer with Sledgehammer fully focused on it would be perfect. Imagine a fully fledged Campaign and a proper in depth Zombie mode like we had in WAW or BLOPS3. New titles every year just isn't viable these days due to how long it takes to make games...as in fully complete games.
I'm going to keep playing DMZ until they literally shut the servers off. No COD mode has ever kept me this engaged, or been more exciting to play. I have high hopes for Bungie's Marathon, but it's well over a year away. A 2025 release would be a miracle.
PVP is singularly responsible for the demise of DMZ, despite the game designer’s best efforts to curb PVP abuse with nerfed MRAP’s, outlandishly expensive UAV’s and JLTV’s, revoked 6-man teams, bounties, and murder bots. It’s profanely naive to believe that difficult access to 3-plate armor carriers could put a dent in the PVP player’s misbehavior when all of these other draconian efforts have failed so spectacularly. COD’s ultimate solution? Shutter the whole enterprise and put the PVE only mode the market so desperately craves behind a paywall.
Someone needs to make a video "Is Phixate killing the games we love?" First you took out The Cycle, then you had to go and ruin Muaraders, now you take DMZ from us? I all seriousness, you've worked so hard these past few years to get where you are. I'm sad to see a creator like you struggle finding a game that lasts longer than two years. A late congratulations on hitting 100k. Stick with the game as long as it makes you happy Phix, but I know whatever happens you'll land on your feet. Much love brotha 💚
Season 1 of DMZ was golden - i did not like what DMZ became in the later seasons. Personally, MWZ is the perfect game for me - I want to chill, mind my own business and complete contracts.
The pay to win bundles ruined DMZ and now that it's being cancelled you see just a host of them littering the store after we all know DMZ is done. Absolutely insane that they let the DMZ tactical mindset piss off their BR fans and then they just destroyed it for a cash grab anyway.
P2W bundles killed it. Everything else could have been reverted. Hopefully, there will be a DMZ in the future. I loved the game. Love your streams, Phix, too.
THE 2 MAIN REASONS DMZ DIED (imo) 1. No Mission wipe after season 4 2. Solos were getting killed by 6 man death squads with fire shotguns for 75% of the games life cycle. Also some other things such as the operator base where you collect screwdrivers & lightbulbs to unlock extended time on UAV tower. It took then to long to add that to the game. When was it added season 4? Think about it season 4 was the best seasonm we had a fresh wipe woth plenty of missions to do. We had the iperstoe base with a ton of unlocks to work towards. We had different types of 3 olate vest, and a fresh vondel map. Everyone was loving DMZ in season 4 EXCEPT people were still upset, getting killed by 6 man teams with shotguns.
The main point of playing video games is to have fun. There is no reason to stop playing a game if you're still doing that. For me the mode is about being in a group and socializing with all the random people in the world, that is the fun part. I'll continue to do that as long as the developers allow me to do so. This social aspect is greatly enhanced by dmz's mission style mode though, it's just not the same playing in warzone or deathmatches. I wish the developers focused more on DMZ, it is something special.
Tbh I started playing dmz a few months ago only. Stopped dmz to play the new zombies. I progressed much faster with my objectives in zombies than I ever did with dmz. The pvp is not normal, competitive pvp, it’s toxic pvp. I’m not gonna drop dmz, but I’m having way more fun playing and grinding to unlock things in zombies. (I know this is not a popular opinion btw) thanks for always providing entertaining content! Cheers ✌🏼
Nothing every last. Reminds me how restaurants come out with an amazing item on the menu that everyone loves and then its gone leaving us with sub-par items to choose from.
DMZ is the only game mode i play. I would die immediately when playing battle royale to the point that it's not enjoyable anymore. i just wanted to relax and play PvE, not stress myself out in battle royale
I'm sure the game will return and actually, I'm quite thankful for the respite having solidly played for the past year. Time off was needed. I hate how cod games are built for addiction.
I used to think 6 man platoons were a problem but when they reduced the limit to 4 players only it actually made it worse. At least back then if your squad got taken out you could get picked up. Now nobody picks anyone else up unless their solo. Combine that with the fact that everyone just wants to kill everyone else now it makes runs a lot more frustrating at times. I dont mind pvp here and there, it definitely makes things more interesting, but when you're trying to do a mission and keep getting targeted by hunt squads every time you spawn in, it gets old after a while. The pvp aspect has definitely taken over the game and made it more challenging
I think you nailed it with the "paid for skins and weapons" bit about the way the PvP changed once they didn't fear losing anything. Ruined the game for a lot of us
No different than any other game mode in terms of paid skins. I certainly fear losing every time I play DMZ, and I have bought stuff. You have to be Good! I can see why it’s disappointing if you suck. Very different skill set than grinding through regular MP games.
Similarly to the MW2019 and the OG Warzone on Verdansk, DMZ was the first time I played CoD on a daily basis since I was in middle school playing MW2 and WaW. I just can’t justify downloading a 200gb game I don’t even own just to play one fun mode. It was nice while it lasted.
I enjoyed DMZ and had some of the best experiences with people that I can remember. That being said if there was one more reason not to support Activision was how they sold game packs with perks specific to DMZ that they pulled the plug on after a few months. MW2 was it for me with this franchise.
I'm honestly surprised they're not doing anything else with DMZ. They hyped it up like they were going to work on it separate from Warzone 2, which it was until they put it under the BR tab. It really seems like Activision hears what the community wants, then does exactly what we don't want
Phixate I appreciate you I do. But the toxicity went through the roof after the first weekend. Only in the first few days or so when people were truly exploring the mode was there a balanced mix of pve and pvp. It just got worse and worse. I came from the division and around when building 21 came out I was just over it.
I don’t think the DMZ we want isn’t recoverable from where it is now. Is sad that it won’t be supported any more, but I don’t think it’s the last extraction looter shooter we’ll see from CoD. DMZ will return and let’s hope this break will allow the devs to make a new DMZ that’s an even better experience. I’ll still be tuning into your streams bro 👍
I’m playing till I can’t play anymore. Still got missions to do and for a game I downloaded for free I’d have bought mw3 if dmz was going to be continued in this but it’s not so I won’t be buying it. I’ve been playing cod games since 2010 and this has been the most enjoyable mode, everything about it the PvP,pve, missions and the general fact it’s like forest gump once said ‘DMZ is like a box of chocolates you never know what your gonna get’! Dmz forever people ✌️
Ironically I just dropped into DMZ for a round before bed after a crap evening and had one of the best, most intense rounds of DMZ I have ever had. It's criminal they are not doing more for this game mode.. it's so good.
As woefully out of balance the game is now with an over-saturation of aggressive PvP and no/very little “gear fear” anymore, I still find it fun even if it’s about to stay sweaty with no reset or new missions. Sad to hear the current state of DMZ will never change though. It definitely peaked hooked my interest in semi-casual extraction shooters and I hope for new+better experiences in this genre in the future, either within COD or other games
when the majority of streamers used to promote the game. run around looking for their personal best operator kill streaks pretty much providing the example that lead to the constant lean towards pvp. its hard to buy the idea that our ability to get our gear back is the reason dmz went the way of the garbage bin. i mean honestly the last time i watched one of your vids you westie and his buddy were sitting outside of the exit to the butcher fight so you could snipe people coming out of that battle. but you go ahead and make up the reasons that will help you feel better about yourself.
I'm only interested in DMZ, so I guess it means I won't be spending any money on current or future CoD content. Nice point with the bundles skewing possibility of specific changes, guess Activision's greed when designing them to interact with gameplay (including pay 2 win elements possibilities), did bite them in the behinds. Lets just hope they won't be doing anything to DMZ like they did to Warzone 1 to force players to switch (downtime, limiting modes and maps to the point of removing them).
I disagree 100% that pvp is necessary. If dmz had a pve only option I would still be and continue playing it. It sucks that content creators killed dmz. It sucks that the devs didn't take the clue and offer a pve only option or at the least a solo only separated lobby option. Dmz had true potential but like 99% of games now days never reached a 1/10th of that potential.
Like alot of this community we are not exactly kids anymore. Apart from some lockdown Warzone, DMZ definitely brought me back to gaming. Sad times ahead as the NZ/AU Servers die off.
The only thing I liked about DMZ was the PvE part, but with the shift you mentioned towards aggressive PvP it is a big no no to me. I'm trying to progress with my missions and fully geared, full squad players hunting me because... they are bored. Yeah, thanks but no.
People got sick of what dmz became. It became a toxic pvp only cesspool. I loved dmz. I put so many days into all the missions, the masteries, ect. I loved it. The last month I played I hated it. Constant exfil campers, constant hunting and even hacking. Reluctantly went to mwz. Fell in love with it. It's fresh, the community is awesome. Turns out pvp was the problem lol. Shock. Hopefully mwz just keeps growing.
Sucks but it's gonna be all good. You blew up by playing DMZ, sure. But I'm guessing the vast majority of your audience will happily follow you to whatever you play going forward. Long live the Work n Lurk Crew.
The times where people are friendly and nice but after season 3 I kinda want to back to season 1 because of people actually working together instead of abandoned you I miss those days 😔
Dmz was absolutely perfect until season 3 thats when i couldnt take it anymore and i quit. It didnt know what it wanted to be and i blame the community for being too divided and the devs couldn't pick who to make happy.
Are any of you experiencing a lot more packet bursting...? Are we getting packet-burst-pushed to mw3?... anyway..... A huge thanx to phix for his energy, optimism and dedication... a true WANG...
I enjoyed this mode so much, but alas the lack of content and the big reduction in risk mainly because of bundles, did shifted the way the game is played. Ironically the removal of 6 man platoons also heavily contributed to full PVP no pleas style of gameplay, which in turn contributed to less focus on missions.
Sad day for DMZ, but I believe there is hope for an even better DMZ in a future Call of Duty...
DMZ has been and still is so much fun. I plan on continuing to make DMZ content in 2024 despite this sad news.
@@manuelroman7597dmz is absolutely dead. The player count will drop hard with mw3 and warzone taking most players and a lack of dmz content.
@@OldPantherit's not dead. I will play dmz until they delete it.
I am absolutely going to keep playing. Zombies got boring really fast without PVP and Warzone is pretty sweaty sometimes.
DMZ Forever
@dc8061 you're dreaming if you think this news isn't the end of dmz. It won't retain enough players. WZ1 was orders of magnitude more popular and look what happened.
I'm no psychiatrist but I can imagine you're feeling a little hollow today bro but just want to say you've been so great to watch play DMZ. And I hope you don't feel like you've wasted that time. Genuinely it's been amazing. You're a legend of the game and I can't wait to CONTINUE watching you play DMZ, as well as other modes and games. You're a top streamer bro! X
Great comment
is there a game similar to DMZ? (and also free if possible)
@christianjonahzapanta6954 ik I'm late but mwz In mw3
RIP the best game mode
DMZ was some of the most fun I’ve had with COD.
It’s not at all “RIP”. Wait for news… it will become its own title.
@@Fluterra No it wont
@contingencyibct3120 No, but i also know that there's no money to be made if it was a separate game
RIP the worst game mode
DMZ was honestly one of the most enjoyable gaming experiences i have had in years, which is something i didnt think id say about anything CoD related, but imo this was to be expected. Im sure DMZ will return one day, but who knows when or how that will happen. The silver lining of all this is that i dont have to buy the mw3 now after this is confirmed 😅
agreed upon not buying MW3 100%. no worth for me without dmz.
Yeah the only thing i wanted from MW3 were new guns and map for DMZ. Zombies could have also been cool had they bothered to put even the slightest amount of effort to it.
Me too. I obsessed about it and getting the missions completed. Now that I have max rep in all of the factions it seems as though there is not much point. I have no intentions of getting MW3 or spending anymore money in that game. I doubt I would come back to COD without a game mode like DMZ! I just hope there are a lot of people out there that feel the same way and it hits them in the bank account.
@jeffreyrowe6580 that's the intense part, doing missions and almost finishing it while fight off multiple teams at once makes it so dam fun
Not bought MW3 but the fact that many who did are now sending me invites for DMZ says a whole lot
What made DMZ special isnt just that its an extraction shooter (in fact extracting isnt the most vital thing to it, since you dont lose much). What made DMZ remarkable was the fast paced nature that would have you moving around looting and killing many bots, with constant action and the most important thing: unpredictability. You could start a match with one of many goals in mind and you would end up doing something different depending on the circumstances. Such a unique feeling
thats exactly what made it terrible tho. as it wasnt even an extraction shooter at that point. it was just straight up a BR lite game mode in the sense. And then to top it all off. Their AI system was a joke... Dont build a extraction based shooter unless you have systems in place to provide fun investment into. Because decent gunplay wont hold your interest forever. thats exactly what makes tarkov so great. they have you steadily progressing tasks granted some of them are a bit shit. but also progressively building a stash of equipment.
Essentially it boiled down to a severe lack of the main part of what the game was supposed to be "extracting loot" as well as a not so impressive mission system
What you are describing, is literally quite literally war mode lmfao the fast rotations is not what made it good it was the hard-core environment. Small mistakes got you killed It was actually much harder than Warzone because in Warzone, you can respawn in DMZ you can’t it’s GGs try again next game
@@JohnJohn-bz1lq hardcore. bruh there was nothing hardcore about it. if this is hardcore then EFT is a straight up hell. nah man it was easy and annoying in certain areas but it offered zero challenge. you lost nothing you gained nothing. besides what.. freaking keys. weapons that never mattered cause AI was always broken in some way and cheaters were out in full force
@@iAmDiBBz it was the weapon case that made it hardcore
They should have put less players though, last time I played it ages ago there was no way to extract withoht killing 1-3 squads. This made the mode not very accessible to noobs and just warzone with bots that occasional annoy you.
The problem about DMZ is that mainstream streamers didn't want it to be popular, it was popular amongst casual below average to average players, myself included. I checked at my stats and I spent more time in DMZ than what I did with Warzone, I'm an average-above average player and I truly enjoyed DMZ but the sad reality was that. Do wanted to thank you for making content about DMZ I played with you one time in BLDG21 without knowing lol and it was great to share the experience with you, keep it up, thanks man!
DMZ was the most innovative mode to have been added in many years. It also introduced me to some of the best content creators and the most exciting content from Call of Duty. I will continue to both watch and support and, with a little luck, bump into you (I will be the one yelling FRIENDLY into my mic).
I've been playing DMZ since it launched with Season 1 of MWII and WZ2, I've watched the entire lifecycle of this game and what I can say is that the main problem that held the mode back was the excessively toxic PvP. PvP isn't a bad thing but people who only play to hunt others was definitely holding back all the good things DMZ brought as a mode. Although it wont be receiving new content, I'll never forget the great moments I had in this mode.
It lacked rules of engagement built into the mode by the devs. The players themselves actually killed the game. No need in coding and developing missions if 90% of the lobby just PvPd.
Disagree. PvP is what COD is about. DMZ is strategic and smart PvP, not the usual multiplayer BS where you kill/die/respawn/repeat.
I wasn’t a DMZ pro or anything but those moments being hunted by those PvP players were what made the game mode exciting as it was. It forced you to 1. Become good at killing 2. Become good at running. Wouldn’t mind seeing this gamemode return.
Im not a c.o.d fan but after 15 years gaming, this was the game mode that got me into c.o.d. i was crap at first but after trying to keep up with my mate who played c.o.d for years, i got into multiple player to help learn movement, which guns work for me. Dmz has also brought me a lot of people with complete unique experiences. Ill still be playing rhis untill another extractor shooter becomes available for consoles.
same here. haven't played COD since advanced warfare, and played only the campaign there. so DMZ brought me back to COD. I've bought MW2 and a few bundles because of it. Well, no more financial support from me, Activision.
@@I-am-saT I'm with both of you. Came back to COD after years of not playing any PvP FPS games. DMZ brought me back to life, started getting good and really enjoying it, bought a few of the operator packs with DMZ perks and naturally pre-ordered MW3 thinking DMZ would very well continue on...as they said 'everything would carry forward'. Once the doubts about DMZ started setting in, I started regretting purchasing operator bundles and preordering MW3 overall. The guns, 15 minute cooldowns, free UAVs/2plate carriers/self rez's are all essentially worthless now. Lesson learned, I will never drop another dime on anything COD related.
Now that I have MW3, I will play it, but no more money from me. Also, DMZ is still pretty fun even now, but it is strictly just PVP now.
This mode made me spend hours on a game for the first time in years, I really enjoyed it. It feels bad to know that it'll die so soon
I enjoyed it when it first came out but like you said when people didn’t care anymore and just ran around specifically for PvP then to me it became annoying. I liked the initial mix of both PvE and PvP and when that died dmz was no longer for me
Zombies is better than dmz 😂
@@Jasmine-Gravesmaybe, but u cant compare, DMZ is F2P and Zombie is pay Content.
It became a competitor to Warzone instead of an extraction shooter beacuse no on did missions. It was slower then Warzone and no SBMM.
@@Jasmine-GravesZombies also has a bigger following because of the history of the mode and people enjoy the movie genre in general.
People did not do missions, because there were none to do... me and my buddy finished most before even the new season came out with like 10 new, and some of the hardest ones were usually bugged.@@ntdavis96
I stopped playing for 3 reasons:
1) Building 21, Ashika and Vondel were small and PVP heavy. Leaving just Al Mazrah through the entire year as the only map I wanted to play in. Worse still was the fog on those maps which made it feel drab and uninteresting, even though they had some cool designs it didn't feel fun to explore because you couldn't see more than a block ahead of you anyway.
2) PVP was cool and worked for the weapon cases but should have been discouraged more. Something had to be done about players that just camped the exfils, make them lose their stuff if they didn't complete at least 1 contract or kill 1 commander OR maybe hide the exfils until they completed either a commander kill or a contract, something that would prevent exfil camping.
3) The mission resets and insured weapon slot reset was the final nail. I felt like all the work I put into the game was pointless and they'll just wipe again in the future anyway so I just stopped playing. I went to the kosheki complex once but as a soloist it was stressful because it seemed to be team orientated even though it encouraged PVP? I mean just play warzone if you like PVP so much, it's way more fun if you want an intense in your face fight.
Phix the title should be DMZ is officially getting no more updates, this title is something we all talked about in chat. This is making a claim that DMZ is actually dead, its not and the servers will remain open. Every streamer want's to shed the darkest news, in the darkest way. What about the sentence where they said they will be using the DMZ content, for a future game mode, thats pretty positive. I did not watch this video, because the title is just click bait, I respect you as a streamer, and you've been one of my favorites for over a year now, don't fall into this false feeding... When DMZ won't load you into a server, or takes several minutes then we can claim it is dead.
DMZ is an amazing mode, and it's too bad it's not going to be supported anymore, hopefully it gets a second iteration.
I do believe zombies stole a lot of those players that disliked the pvp elements
I just want to say thank you Phix it’s been a great ride man I met you and a bunch of other amazing content creators to DMZ after the servers are shut down, I’ll be going back to Fortnite, unfortunately, call of duty has nothing else to offer for me, but until then, DMZ will be a daily routine
I started DMZ late season 2 and have been hooked since then, playing every night with friends. I still have upgrades and missions to do, so I'll keep playing. A pity it won't get updates, but at least it's being supported (whatever that really means).
I'd happily pay full price for a standalone DMZ, maybe getting a new map every 6 months and new missions/upgrades every 3.
TBH, in this current economy it wouldn't surprise me if Activision followed the DMZ news with staff cuts like many other gaming companies have been doing lately.
GG, Phix. Still here for the content :)
Damn. Brought life back into cod for me and my friends.
Thanks! I still plan to play more DMZ over the next year but I'll probably dabble with MWIII once the price drops. Love the content man.
It's the players fault in a sense. Becoming so sweaty spawn hunting losers, caused the developers to probably view this more as a mini warzone/warzone junior. which in their eyes, makes it a WASTE OF MONEY. Blame it on the players who chose to simply not play warzone once they finished the faction missions. Y'all ruined it. Intent #1 was missions Intent number 2 was PVP.
Exactly!!!!
😢😢😢😢 I heard an awful lot of tears dropping
I feel exactly the same. If you’re having fun, why quit? I’m still playing.
All my COD days been playing team deathmatch. I came to dmz only to unlock m13b and been stuck ever since. I tried going back to team deathmatch and I quickly quit went straight back to al mazrah. It just brings a different element to playing the game. I'd really hate to see it go
Phix, started watching you by accident back in May. My daughter was just born and I was learning about live streamers and it just so happens I was and still a big DMZer. Great take on this and always watching… El Claptain made it sound like his parents were grounding him for the summer for getting bad grades. He’s never playing again, DMZ is dead… Geez
Agreed.
They're both my favorite streamers for DMZ content, so I didn't appreciate Claptain's take. I get it, but like Phixate says, I'm still enjoying it and I'm not particularly great. Maybe decent lol.
I’m glad clap is moving on- he was pretty annoying
@@mlrk3y858 thank you
The only reason I came back to COD...
Noooooooo still be playing this mode
DMZ forever !!!
The best part about DMZ coming from playing Tarkov heavily was that it was legitimately “Tarkov Lite” the ability to just chill and take your time, PVE and PVP was great. And Queuing was quick! Something Tarkov is not.
It'll be back
Nope it won't
You're right, they can't un-sell the broken operators with 15 min insured cooldowns and free UAV's. They have to start over with a totally different rebranded new game, hopefully they will. DMZ was the only part of COD MW I played and I'm guessing the player base is going to start shrinking. PVP has been getting a little too intense for my taste. The balance feels off.
Their best game mode. This is really going to hurt the franchise. They promised us that they’d keep doing stuff with dmz and they lied to us.
@ItsFritzDaCat no they said it when everyone was asking g if dmz was going to be in mw3. Look it up. I think phixate had a video about it months ago.
Got to agree, season 1 & 2 were the best, so many good memories from those seasons. Way before it got too sweaty. Sad to hear this news but it is kind of expected given what we already know. Also happy to hear you will continue on with DMZ. Good luck!
Well said Phixxy. RIP DMZ. #dmzforever
I"m really sad to see DMZ go. As much as I'd like to be optimistic about another DMZ, it's hard when it seems like it was just a test for MWZ mechanics. Thanks for being such a legend of DMZ!
DMZ might be dead, but I'm thankful that I met you through it, I really like your personality and hope there's great content and life in the future for you.
The only thing they learnt about 15 minute bundles is that people buy them so if they make a "DMZ 2" then they will make bundles again
They should just split the Call of Duty universe into three and let the three main developers take a different section. IW/Raven can do Warzone and DMZ. Sledgehammer focus on Multiplayer and Treyarch do Zombies and Campaign. At least then each section will have a full team developing it.
Multiplayer with Sledgehammer fully focused on it would be perfect. Imagine a fully fledged Campaign and a proper in depth Zombie mode like we had in WAW or BLOPS3.
New titles every year just isn't viable these days due to how long it takes to make games...as in fully complete games.
I'm going to keep playing DMZ until they literally shut the servers off. No COD mode has ever kept me this engaged, or been more exciting to play. I have high hopes for Bungie's Marathon, but it's well over a year away. A 2025 release would be a miracle.
PVP is singularly responsible for the demise of DMZ, despite the game designer’s best efforts to curb PVP abuse with nerfed MRAP’s, outlandishly expensive UAV’s and JLTV’s, revoked 6-man teams, bounties, and murder bots. It’s profanely naive to believe that difficult access to 3-plate armor carriers could put a dent in the PVP player’s misbehavior when all of these other draconian efforts have failed so spectacularly. COD’s ultimate solution? Shutter the whole enterprise and put the PVE only mode the market so desperately craves behind a paywall.
Such a sad disappointing end to our beloved DMZ. Long live the DMZ
Dmz had some great memories, Friendship and betrayal a lot of stressful and smooth times
If you don’t believe DMZ is dead , spawn into vondel solo with no weapon, developers have made it unplayable with the AI
This is why @Phixate is the DMZ GOAT
I will follow you anywhere GOAT. Thanks for all the entertainment!
They'll either develop DMZ as a separate game a year or two from now or another extraction shooter will hit the market and scratch the itch.
Someone needs to make a video "Is Phixate killing the games we love?" First you took out The Cycle, then you had to go and ruin Muaraders, now you take DMZ from us?
I all seriousness, you've worked so hard these past few years to get where you are. I'm sad to see a creator like you struggle finding a game that lasts longer than two years.
A late congratulations on hitting 100k. Stick with the game as long as it makes you happy Phix, but I know whatever happens you'll land on your feet. Much love brotha 💚
Season 1 of DMZ was golden - i did not like what DMZ became in the later seasons. Personally, MWZ is the perfect game for me - I want to chill, mind my own business and complete contracts.
The pay to win bundles ruined DMZ and now that it's being cancelled you see just a host of them littering the store after we all know DMZ is done. Absolutely insane that they let the DMZ tactical mindset piss off their BR fans and then they just destroyed it for a cash grab anyway.
P2W bundles killed it. Everything else could have been reverted. Hopefully, there will be a DMZ in the future. I loved the game. Love your streams, Phix, too.
THE 2 MAIN REASONS DMZ DIED (imo)
1. No Mission wipe after season 4
2. Solos were getting killed by 6 man death squads with fire shotguns for 75% of the games life cycle.
Also some other things such as the operator base where you collect screwdrivers & lightbulbs to unlock extended time on UAV tower. It took then to long to add that to the game. When was it added season 4?
Think about it season 4 was the best seasonm we had a fresh wipe woth plenty of missions to do. We had the iperstoe base with a ton of unlocks to work towards. We had different types of 3 olate vest, and a fresh vondel map. Everyone was loving DMZ in season 4 EXCEPT people were still upset, getting killed by 6 man teams with shotguns.
The main point of playing video games is to have fun. There is no reason to stop playing a game if you're still doing that. For me the mode is about being in a group and socializing with all the random people in the world, that is the fun part. I'll continue to do that as long as the developers allow me to do so.
This social aspect is greatly enhanced by dmz's mission style mode though, it's just not the same playing in warzone or deathmatches. I wish the developers focused more on DMZ, it is something special.
Tbh I started playing dmz a few months ago only. Stopped dmz to play the new zombies. I progressed much faster with my objectives in zombies than I ever did with dmz. The pvp is not normal, competitive pvp, it’s toxic pvp. I’m not gonna drop dmz, but I’m having way more fun playing and grinding to unlock things in zombies. (I know this is not a popular opinion btw) thanks for always providing entertaining content! Cheers ✌🏼
It was fun while it lasted
Nothing every last. Reminds me how restaurants come out with an amazing item on the menu that everyone loves and then its gone leaving us with sub-par items to choose from.
Sad sad day.
DMZ is the only game mode i play. I would die immediately when playing battle royale to the point that it's not enjoyable anymore. i just wanted to relax and play PvE, not stress myself out in battle royale
I'm sure the game will return and actually, I'm quite thankful for the respite having solidly played for the past year. Time off was needed. I hate how cod games are built for addiction.
I used to think 6 man platoons were a problem but when they reduced the limit to 4 players only it actually made it worse. At least back then if your squad got taken out you could get picked up. Now nobody picks anyone else up unless their solo. Combine that with the fact that everyone just wants to kill everyone else now it makes runs a lot more frustrating at times. I dont mind pvp here and there, it definitely makes things more interesting, but when you're trying to do a mission and keep getting targeted by hunt squads every time you spawn in, it gets old after a while. The pvp aspect has definitely taken over the game and made it more challenging
I think you nailed it with the "paid for skins and weapons" bit about the way the PvP changed once they didn't fear losing anything. Ruined the game for a lot of us
No different than any other game mode in terms of paid skins. I certainly fear losing every time I play DMZ, and I have bought stuff. You have to be Good! I can see why it’s disappointing if you suck. Very different skill set than grinding through regular MP games.
Absolutely ridiculous! 🤦🏼♂️
Similarly to the MW2019 and the OG Warzone on Verdansk, DMZ was the first time I played CoD on a daily basis since I was in middle school playing MW2 and WaW. I just can’t justify downloading a 200gb game I don’t even own just to play one fun mode. It was nice while it lasted.
Oh well. Money spent on DMZ bundles was a waste but thats cool because ill be saving plenty of money not buying mw3 batlle pass or skins.
I enjoyed DMZ and had some of the best experiences with people that I can remember. That being said if there was one more reason not to support Activision was how they sold game packs with perks specific to DMZ that they pulled the plug on after a few months.
MW2 was it for me with this franchise.
Dmz will be missed..
I'm honestly surprised they're not doing anything else with DMZ. They hyped it up like they were going to work on it separate from Warzone 2, which it was until they put it under the BR tab. It really seems like Activision hears what the community wants, then does exactly what we don't want
Phixate I appreciate you I do. But the toxicity went through the roof after the first weekend. Only in the first few days or so when people were truly exploring the mode was there a balanced mix of pve and pvp. It just got worse and worse. I came from the division and around when building 21 came out I was just over it.
Selling bundles for a specific mode that loses support just shortly after a year is a reminder to me to never give Activision my money
I don’t think the DMZ we want isn’t recoverable from where it is now. Is sad that it won’t be supported any more, but I don’t think it’s the last extraction looter shooter we’ll see from CoD. DMZ will return and let’s hope this break will allow the devs to make a new DMZ that’s an even better experience.
I’ll still be tuning into your streams bro 👍
I’m playing till I can’t play anymore. Still got missions to do and for a game I downloaded for free I’d have bought mw3 if dmz was going to be continued in this but it’s not so I won’t be buying it. I’ve been playing cod games since 2010 and this has been the most enjoyable mode, everything about it the PvP,pve, missions and the general fact it’s like forest gump once said ‘DMZ is like a box of chocolates you never know what your gonna get’! Dmz forever people ✌️
as long ther server is active i will keep supporting DMZ, as a solo survivor.
Activision is stupid, DMZ is by far one of the best game modes... Until they fcked it up with their Pay-To-Win bundles.
First the cycle. Now DMZ. Bro can't catch a break.
They finished selling DMZ bundles to you😂
Ironically I just dropped into DMZ for a round before bed after a crap evening and had one of the best, most intense rounds of DMZ I have ever had. It's criminal they are not doing more for this game mode.. it's so good.
As woefully out of balance the game is now with an over-saturation of aggressive PvP and no/very little “gear fear” anymore, I still find it fun even if it’s about to stay sweaty with no reset or new missions. Sad to hear the current state of DMZ will never change though. It definitely peaked hooked my interest in semi-casual extraction shooters and I hope for new+better experiences in this genre in the future, either within COD or other games
Dang. DMZ was a fresh mode for COD and was my favorite to play. Sad they arent supporting it anymore. Every match was different and unique.
Felt this was coming. Still hurts man...😢
Zombies PVE is a better mode, DMZ should never have been PVP, it should have been PVE only.
when the majority of streamers used to promote the game. run around looking for their personal best operator kill streaks pretty much providing the example that lead to the constant lean towards pvp. its hard to buy the idea that our ability to get our gear back is the reason dmz went the way of the garbage bin. i mean honestly the last time i watched one of your vids you westie and his buddy were sitting outside of the exit to the butcher fight so you could snipe people coming out of that battle. but you go ahead and make up the reasons that will help you feel better about yourself.
DMZ forever 😢
I'm only interested in DMZ, so I guess it means I won't be spending any money on current or future CoD content. Nice point with the bundles skewing possibility of specific changes, guess Activision's greed when designing them to interact with gameplay (including pay 2 win elements possibilities), did bite them in the behinds. Lets just hope they won't be doing anything to DMZ like they did to Warzone 1 to force players to switch (downtime, limiting modes and maps to the point of removing them).
I disagree 100% that pvp is necessary. If dmz had a pve only option I would still be and continue playing it. It sucks that content creators killed dmz. It sucks that the devs didn't take the clue and offer a pve only option or at the least a solo only separated lobby option. Dmz had true potential but like 99% of games now days never reached a 1/10th of that potential.
Best game mode ever. Too bad they abandoned it.
What a shame... DMZ is the only game that brought me back to one more game phase. Always unique
I’ve never played a full year of cod until dmz.
I blame streamers for finishing the missions so fast and spending months just hunting other players
Like alot of this community we are not exactly kids anymore. Apart from some lockdown Warzone, DMZ definitely brought me back to gaming. Sad times ahead as the NZ/AU Servers die off.
The only thing I liked about DMZ was the PvE part, but with the shift you mentioned towards aggressive PvP it is a big no no to me.
I'm trying to progress with my missions and fully geared, full squad players hunting me because... they are bored. Yeah, thanks but no.
Man, this has been the best game mode ever, we will continue to play until it's put to rest, LONG LIVE THE DMZ community
Activision knew this for months but deliberately waited this long to tell us because they were hoping for those last minute copium sales
Well, DMZ was the only mode I played and only reason I bought skins. Guess that’s the end of cod for me
Strongholds became useless once the vest became craftable.
They will not get another hard earned dollar from me until this game mode is back and fully supported.
I’m gutted!!
People got sick of what dmz became. It became a toxic pvp only cesspool. I loved dmz. I put so many days into all the missions, the masteries, ect. I loved it. The last month I played I hated it. Constant exfil campers, constant hunting and even hacking. Reluctantly went to mwz. Fell in love with it. It's fresh, the community is awesome. Turns out pvp was the problem lol. Shock. Hopefully mwz just keeps growing.
Sucks but it's gonna be all good. You blew up by playing DMZ, sure. But I'm guessing the vast majority of your audience will happily follow you to whatever you play going forward. Long live the Work n Lurk Crew.
I missed season 1 dmz... never went back after season 2.
The times where people are friendly and nice but after season 3 I kinda want to back to season 1 because of people actually working together instead of abandoned you I miss those days 😔
Dmz was absolutely perfect until season 3 thats when i couldnt take it anymore and i quit. It didnt know what it wanted to be and i blame the community for being too divided and the devs couldn't pick who to make happy.
Are any of you experiencing a lot more packet bursting...? Are we getting packet-burst-pushed to mw3?... anyway..... A huge thanx to phix for his energy, optimism and dedication... a true WANG...
I enjoyed this mode so much, but alas the lack of content and the big reduction in risk mainly because of bundles, did shifted the way the game is played.
Ironically the removal of 6 man platoons also heavily contributed to full PVP no pleas style of gameplay, which in turn contributed to less focus on missions.
Hopefully some gaming company will realize the potential for a DMZ style game and release a new game soon!😀
DMZ FOREVER! Hell yeah!
Thank you for your commitment to DMZ, Phix 💔