I am an LMG main. Throw your accuracy stat and the concept of reloading out the window. Take overkill with double extended mags and prefire literally everything. Ive gotten 80+ kills like this in dom and hardpoint multiple times. Ppl with call it stupid because its not run and gun meta, but thats where LMGs shine
I use XMG with 200 rounds and gunfighter. I win almost every long range fight, except against snipers. But I can beat snipers even too sometimes. Its biggest weakness is short range fights against SMGs. However even on nuketown I consistently get between 1.5 and 2.5 elim/death ratio. LMG is my favorite gun type. Not even close to compare any other gun type imo. 200 rounds no reload??
@@alexmaurice4274Faster handling wouldn't be bad as long as it's not overboard. A lot of people hold lanes with lmgs anyway so the open bolt delay stops that from being oppressive to a certain extent
@@MrKing-he3eowell the fastest is 300ms when you include the pre fire delay which is like the average AR. If they can’t even out TTK ARs what’s the point? They should be slower handling but faster killing than ARs imo. If they aren’t, then they’re useless.
@@stuff4812 I can hit every shot out to about 15 to 20 meters, so a bit further than shotties. But not that much further. I think it works best on the PU with the sprint to fire grip and the Fast mag 1, the other LMG's cant get enough mobility to use crossbar effectively imo.
I'm a 100% lmg only guy. 1st one for mobility/small mag builds 2nd one for extended mag wall shot spray builds 3rd one for anything in-between, as well as the best balanced off builds or tactical builds imo
@@felipejesus4401 it's not rare that I'm the second or third worst player in my teams, but my win rate is always been above 75-80% (Except for in this bs game where I am struggling to maintain whats probably a 60% win rate at best bc of matchmaking)
its the most accurate, paired with gain twist barrel it performs a lot better down range. the ttks are very consistent with the damage ranges but... with how the servers are rn with desync, these theoretical ttks dont mean much.
Ace, you accidentally switched the recoil patterns of the XMG and GPMG-7. When you got to the iron sight picture, I noticed that the recoil pattern in front of the XMG is the blue recoil pattern on the left that you have labeled as the GPMG-7, and the recoil pattern you have in front of the GPMG-7 is the yellow recoil pattern on the left that you have labeled as the XMG.
Having to land 4 head shots to get a kill with an LMG is absolute insanity. Especially considering all the camo challenges require 100 head shot kills.
@@Pigssaymoo"Don't be a noob" Tf?? The "headshots don't do extra damage" shit they have going on right now is what CATERS to noobs. You're not rewarded for hitting the head anymore unless you make your gun worse.
Since we're on the topic of LMGs, will you be uploading a "Anti-Streak" video like you did in previous CoD titles comparing the TTKs of the different LMGs, etc? Those were always really helpful for me since I like playing as my teams support.
Yes, it's crazy. Movement feels like an lightweight Assault Rifle, Recoil feels like this isn't even a gun. I am on a 2.3 K/D on this XMG without even trying too hard (I kinda use guns I usually don't use when I want to chill and don't care much. Also for leveling them and for trying new stuff out. Always have one class of stuff I barely use so I can level everything at once that will be left over otherwise. Now it's the weapon with the most kills for me 😂😂 that's kinda embarrassing. But you're right, it's absolutely crazy.
Yeah basically just play anchor and hold down a lane and shred everyone that tries to rush and you’ll see how good the LMGs are but especially the XMG because of its extended mag 2 ammo capacity and “low” recoil
They dont have insane TTK. Your time to kill has to be added with the pre-fire delay unless you were just randomly firing. They have the effective TTK as an AR but have atrocious handling and reloads in a game where people appear in your face every 3 seconds.
@ i appreciate the open bolt delay, but ultimately if youre using an LMG properly (i.e. holding an angle and not jumping and sliding like a crackhead), you’re probably already holding the trigger down. On the nuke head glitch on warhead, literally nothing beats an XMG with some gentle left-right strafing.
I've tried the PU21 and have been levelling it up nicely. It's a viable weapon to use on most maps, other than perhaps payback, babylon amd subsonic. As long as you can cope with the slow aim to fire, you can even enjoy using it on nuketown.
A few tips for fellow LMG players: Don't be shy about using the mid-power 2 to 4X optics. Your ADS speed is never gonna be great, but your range is, so it can be worth it to double down on that so you can be more accurate. You should be spending a goos chunk of your time scoped in anyways with LMGs. Second, hold angles and play slower, waiting for the enemies to come to you. Run tacticals like shock traps and prox alarm, and offensive grenades like blast trap and thermo to deny space and help funnel them into chokepoints. LMGs excel in modes like domination, hardpoint and headquarters because you can shut down entire lanes if your positioning is good. Finally, use mounting whenever possible. All of the LMGs are complete laser beams when mounted. Use all these strats together and you can become a complete menace.
I’d love a video breaking down the melees and bruiser! I’ve been wanting to know how exactly the healing aspect of the perk works and how it interacts with enforcer
The PU feels like a AR/LMG hybrid, the XMG feels like the traditional lockdown lmg, and the g7 feels like a hipfiring Tommy gun kind of weapon But that's just me
LMGs are okay, so long as you don't try to move. The omnimovement system is so dependent on you starting to sprint before doing anything else, so the huge movement downsides of LMG just put you at a massive disadvantage against ARs and especially SMGs that can keep moving rapidly, especially up close when you have less time to react.
Na man, support’s my permanent class in every game and even though “slow movement’s” totally true in most games… you can still dive jump and 180 instantly even from prone anytime you want. First game ever where I don’t feel hindered by the bulkiness and limited movement of LMG’s. I’ve pulled so many “reversals” where a dude hits me from a hiding spot as I’m sprinting, I dive and mid-air pop him before he can get me. Plus, you gotta stay ADS’d at all times, sprint-to-fire will never match more nimble classes. Then mount corners/barriers whenever one’s near, hold a fire lane and you’re golden.
@@Kyle-nm1kh hipfire’s literally just spray and pray though, but you’re right, it’s better than trying to ads when someone’s already shooting you. Better than nothing at least (but like a 5% chance you hit them)
I like the concept of the M60 (really slow fire rate but hits like a truck) but I never use it in games because the handling is so abysmal. even max mobility on it, it's still garbage
@@cj_superstar9451 I'm of the opinion that the M60 was horrible in cold war, everyone was saying so. it just handled too slow, it was like 600ms ads time. thankfully lmgs are not that slow in bo6 so if they do add the M60 then it should be decent
@@yes_lad oh fair enough, it was actually such a strong gun I had over 20k kills with it with a 2.6kd, I miss Cold War much better game than bo6 in my opinion
I like the I like how the PU-21 has the unique under barrel attachment that helps with control and ADS it’s been fun running around with it on and other mobility attachments kind like a pseudo-AR
Yeah, I'd love a slow firing and hard hitting LMG/GPMG in the game too. Hell, I think they just lack those slow firing 3 shot kill guns, it's only the Tanto .22 and the Goblin Mk. 2 that fills that niche for me at the moment.
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The crossbar attachment is such a disappointment. There's really no point to have it on since it doesn't really increase the movement/handling. It definitely ain't no Chainsaw, Crossbar Hades, Bracefire Taq, etc.
Glad it's not it was very oppressive especially in Nuketown 24/7 in bo4. Still to this day you'll have four stacks or more running lobbies with the hades crossbar.
@SkyRiseDon You must have a bad memory. Sure, the Titan was way better, but mobility wise, the hades was superior. Again, go try to play Nuketown 24/7 on bo4. You may come up against 4-6 stacks full of crossbars. It's was busted.
I've had great success with them while camp grinding. I might keep the XMG in the rotation once I'm done. Never having to reload can be super helpful in racking up kills and not dying.
I been playing with the xmg since the beta and it just shreds. I use a 200 extended mag on it. You have to hang back though. Don’t run around like a mad man with this gun. Shoot all them meth heads sprinting around from a distance. If you’re good enough you’ll even out gun some snipers.
Exactly, you gotta think about laying down suppressive fire to keep the attention on yourself so (hopefully) your team can move in unnoticed or gtfo if they landed in a killbox. Its always fun just hammering a sniper with 200 bullets from the XMG across the map, I tend to run shock sticks, c4/blast trap and mines whenever im using one of the LMG's, just to make it a bit harder to try and jump my position.
I've mained LMGs since og MW and some tips I'd suggest: BURST fire, no more than 4-5 rounds at a time, anti-flinch stocks will help you edge out those pucker situations THINK about your position, you don't have advantage on movement junkies so mind your surroundings WATCH your angles like a sniper, know where to go from cover to cover because you'll lose a quick draw fight almost every time FORGET reloading, until you've used them a while, you're likely not gonna need to reload more than once in a life with base Mag cap, COMPENSATE your recoil with attachments or you'll only hit empty air COMMUNICATE with your team, get a buddy, reloading is when you'll die the most at first, USE IRON SIGHTS if you aren't adding extra slots for attachments, irons are love, irons are life. DONT WORRY ABOUT DYING. It happens, it takes a lot of time to get good at these games already, don't stress yourself even more.
I've only ever used the XMG and GPMG-7 in Campaign so I can't give an opinion on their performance, but I absolutely love the PU-21. It reminds me of the Bruen MK9.
I knew I wasn’t tripping with the XMG when it came to headshots in the beta. It was a headshot machine, literally felt like I couldn’t stop getting headshot kills even when I wasn’t going for them that much. Great for kill feeds. 😂🔥
If you willingly break your own legs and give up some of the most powerful movement we’ve had in years AND you can pre-fire every gunfight to work around the trigger delay, the LMGs are excellent! So no, they’re not very good lmao.
holding a lane/angle with a big box mag lmg and firing down it is so effective because people will just run into your bullet hose. close range they're not great but at medium long you can absolutely tear up enemies
GPMG-7 w/ crossbar, extended mag 4 and fmj. Absolutely shreds in mid-close range maps. Not a run and gun but once you get the play stye down, it's very strong imo
I like the GPMG. However, one of the cams challenges has me trying to use it like an SMG, because of the Point Blank kills needed. That's a pain! I always have managed to get LMGs ranked up and fully cam's before any other weapon!
I like all 3 LMG. My favorite most fun guns in the game. Better mobility than past games and great TTK. And they just sound cooler than the other guns, that have kinda gone back to sounding like typewriters.
I've been getting some play of the games using the PU-21 with the 45 round magazine. For some reason I seem to get quite a few headshots when using it.
It was the PU cuz the mobility but dude even with attachments the recoil is a bit much especially at range, so now it’s the gmp, but I need to give the xmg a try.
XMG with extended mags 1 gets 50 extra shots (50% increase) but the reload time feels the same rn? Around 6.5 seconds like the base reload XMG with recoil attachments is crazy easy to use, I don't even main it and it's still one of my go-to "I want to get a crazy streak without much effort" guns.
I'd say you are better off relegating it to Zombies loadouts. It's by no means bad, more that I find it better to play to the LMG's strengths in multiplayer.
I know this is Cod and realism is not a major concern, but It still feels weird to see the 2 LMGs using smaller caliber have faster TTK than the one loaded with 7.62 NATO. But it's all for balancing purposes when you take their fire rate into account as well, I guess
Well, I haven’t touched any of the LMGs yet in BO6 but out of these three, I’d lean towards the XMG. 100 round base mag and solid 4-shot kill range is what I most like about it. That’s all I said.
While they aren't meta the marksman rifles are my favorite category. l just finished getting them diamond yesterday. I wish they were better but I like using off meta guns anyway.
thats not even true. the lsat, the dingo, the titan, the bruen, the stoner....all of those lmgs where spammed to hell and back in their respective games. its just that they need to be truely busted to even make up for their handling and movement penalties and compete with rifles and smgs, especially in treyarc and sledgehammer games where you often can throw huge mags on rifles and smgs for free and some guns like the cordite even get insane bullet pen with smg handling and movement
Uh the marksman rifles in this game are good especially the swat and the tsarkov 7.62. I really enjoy the headshot barrel on them. The lmgs aren’t really that bad if you don’t stack too heavily on attachments that reduce your mobility
peak LMG gameplay : small map 200 round, keep holding left mouse into any potential enemy direction, rack up prefire kills. forget about reload, you die and respawn to refill your magazine. "i'm not dead, this is what i call 'reloading my weapon' ".
As an aged gamer, XMG was a saving grace that kept in in the game. Yes I'm a camper, I don't have the reflexes to handle MW3 movement never mind BO6 omnipotent diving out of windows into your face run and gun BS.... I'll find a nice little choke point or set one up and score easy 40+ kills in TDM but my favourite thing is Kill Confirmed... I set up my choke points and bait with decoy grenade.... 😈 then bait with the dog tags it's too good. After 3 kills change location as you'll always have a sweaty player looking for that revenge medal. (Of course, I leave a spring mine for them as a parting gift)
u can upgrade your monitor, a better higher refresh rate would help your crosshair stay on target better especially smg run and gun meta, also increase your mouse sensitivity too.
I like them all but the XMG i feel sluggish and the 7 second reload always gets me killed how fast the gameplay is. The game need more attachments that help benefit the LMGs
I am an LMG main. Throw your accuracy stat and the concept of reloading out the window. Take overkill with double extended mags and prefire literally everything. Ive gotten 80+ kills like this in dom and hardpoint multiple times. Ppl with call it stupid because its not run and gun meta, but thats where LMGs shine
I’m also an LMG main I will try your technique 🤝
I use XMG with 200 rounds and gunfighter. I win almost every long range fight, except against snipers. But I can beat snipers even too sometimes.
Its biggest weakness is short range fights against SMGs. However even on nuketown I consistently get between 1.5 and 2.5 elim/death ratio.
LMG is my favorite gun type. Not even close to compare any other gun type imo. 200 rounds no reload??
Chad
LMG MAINS RISE UP
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They need to ditch the pre-fire delay shit. Of all the realistic things CoD does add it just had to be simulating open bolts
Yeah fr if anything let it be like 10 Ms so it’s there for a cool realism effect- but it’s barely noticeable
Honestly the open bolt delay balances the ttk. Otherwise you have them competing or outgunning smgs even up close
@ then they need to buff the handling. There’s no reason to use them imo. Lmgs should be clunky af but fast ttk imo or at least very low recoil
@@alexmaurice4274Faster handling wouldn't be bad as long as it's not overboard. A lot of people hold lanes with lmgs anyway so the open bolt delay stops that from being oppressive to a certain extent
@@MrKing-he3eowell the fastest is 300ms when you include the pre fire delay which is like the average AR. If they can’t even out TTK ARs what’s the point? They should be slower handling but faster killing than ARs imo. If they aren’t, then they’re useless.
The PU 21 is worth a try with the small magazines. In snd, its really the only LMG you can use without dying during reload
It’s currently my go to LMG. With a smaller mag, vertical grip, and fast ADS grip it’s a solid gun as long as you don’t “run and gun”.
@@marioguerrero1305 Crossbar grip go BRRRRRRR
@@Sgt.chickenscrossbar is so bad outside of shotgun ranges
@@stuff4812 I can hit every shot out to about 15 to 20 meters, so a bit further than shotties. But not that much further.
I think it works best on the PU with the sprint to fire grip and the Fast mag 1, the other LMG's cant get enough mobility to use crossbar effectively imo.
@@Sgt.chickensit’s not the BO4 crossbar unfortunately:/
I'm a 100% lmg only guy.
1st one for mobility/small mag builds
2nd one for extended mag wall shot spray builds
3rd one for anything in-between, as well as the best balanced off builds or tactical builds imo
I find the 2nd to perform the best for me, how ever I like to play the 1st the most and didn't actually play the 3rd for all that much yet I'll admit
You must be getting obliterated in lobbies im guessing
@@felipejesus4401 it's not rare that I'm the second or third worst player in my teams, but my win rate is always been above 75-80%
(Except for in this bs game where I am struggling to maintain whats probably a 60% win rate at best bc of matchmaking)
XMG is still the best feeling LMG for me.
Feels so powerful
its the most accurate, paired with gain twist barrel it performs a lot better down range. the ttks are very consistent with the damage ranges but... with how the servers are rn with desync, these theoretical ttks dont mean much.
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Ace, you accidentally switched the recoil patterns of the XMG and GPMG-7.
When you got to the iron sight picture, I noticed that the recoil pattern in front of the XMG is the blue recoil pattern on the left that you have labeled as the GPMG-7, and the recoil pattern you have in front of the GPMG-7 is the yellow recoil pattern on the left that you have labeled as the XMG.
I think you're right
You’re 100% right. I’m a big lmg guy and I hated using the gpmg the PU was my favorite oddly enough.
I love the headshot camo challenges especially when headshots do nothing to affect your ttk on tons of guns in this game! Make sense!
Or when my 7.62 monster lands 3 shots to a guy's head, only to die myself from 3 .22 win mags to the torso.
When grinding Gold for the PU21 I had a lot of fun after basically turning it into an AR with great damage range
Having to land 4 head shots to get a kill with an LMG is absolute insanity. Especially considering all the camo challenges require 100 head shot kills.
don't be a noob
You don’t need all shots to land on the head to get a headshot kill.
It might be the worst part of this game in terms of gunplay. Idk why the fuck Treyarch thought nerfing headshots was a good idea.
@@JF-vz1ju They expect everyone to play hardcore lmao
@@Pigssaymoo"Don't be a noob" Tf?? The "headshots don't do extra damage" shit they have going on right now is what CATERS to noobs. You're not rewarded for hitting the head anymore unless you make your gun worse.
Since we're on the topic of LMGs, will you be uploading a "Anti-Streak" video like you did in previous CoD titles comparing the TTKs of the different LMGs, etc? Those were always really helpful for me since I like playing as my teams support.
They all burn down streaks fairly easily even without FMJ.
Just run the svd. 3 shots uav and 4 shots cuav
Run the XMG with bullet velocity barrel and fmj rounds. It will melt streaks, can even shoot a HARP down with ease
The XMG is phenomenal
YESSSSS!!!! No one seems to know about it too
Man I swear. Gun is super accurate, I don't even have an optic on my build.
@@bludgermoey876i don't know bro....when ever I see LMGs, it's the XMG. Including myself.
Yes, it's crazy. Movement feels like an lightweight Assault Rifle, Recoil feels like this isn't even a gun. I am on a 2.3 K/D on this XMG without even trying too hard (I kinda use guns I usually don't use when I want to chill and don't care much. Also for leveling them and for trying new stuff out. Always have one class of stuff I barely use so I can level everything at once that will be left over otherwise.
Now it's the weapon with the most kills for me 😂😂 that's kinda embarrassing. But you're right, it's absolutely crazy.
Yeah basically just play anchor and hold down a lane and shred everyone that tries to rush and you’ll see how good the LMGs are but especially the XMG because of its extended mag 2 ammo capacity and “low” recoil
LMG is my favorite category. Got them diamond. My favorite guns while I was in the military were 240b and M2 50.
No clue why it has the lowest damage when it literally shoots 7.62
This is exactly how LMG’s should be balanced. Insane shredding ttk’s with slow mobility. Goated.
I play HC and yeah lmg's shred. 😊
They can be hilarious on the strike maps with a massive magazine just shredding.
They dont have insane TTK. Your time to kill has to be added with the pre-fire delay unless you were just randomly firing. They have the effective TTK as an AR but have atrocious handling and reloads in a game where people appear in your face every 3 seconds.
@ i appreciate the open bolt delay, but ultimately if youre using an LMG properly (i.e. holding an angle and not jumping and sliding like a crackhead), you’re probably already holding the trigger down. On the nuke head glitch on warhead, literally nothing beats an XMG with some gentle left-right strafing.
The GPMG is absolutely trash.
The XMG is an absolute BEAST.
I've tried the PU21 and have been levelling it up nicely. It's a viable weapon to use on most maps, other than perhaps payback, babylon amd subsonic.
As long as you can cope with the slow aim to fire, you can even enjoy using it on nuketown.
one thing with lmgs often not mentioned, you have virtually zero flinch. you will never miss a target because of flinch with an LMG.
How do you know or find this out?
@@sabresandiegoby playing the game? just use the weapon and you’ll notice when in a gunfight your gun does not move
A few tips for fellow LMG players: Don't be shy about using the mid-power 2 to 4X optics. Your ADS speed is never gonna be great, but your range is, so it can be worth it to double down on that so you can be more accurate. You should be spending a goos chunk of your time scoped in anyways with LMGs. Second, hold angles and play slower, waiting for the enemies to come to you. Run tacticals like shock traps and prox alarm, and offensive grenades like blast trap and thermo to deny space and help funnel them into chokepoints. LMGs excel in modes like domination, hardpoint and headquarters because you can shut down entire lanes if your positioning is good. Finally, use mounting whenever possible. All of the LMGs are complete laser beams when mounted. Use all these strats together and you can become a complete menace.
I’d love a video breaking down the melees and bruiser! I’ve been wanting to know how exactly the healing aspect of the perk works and how it interacts with enforcer
The PU feels like a AR/LMG hybrid, the XMG feels like the traditional lockdown lmg, and the g7 feels like a hipfiring Tommy gun kind of weapon
But that's just me
I definitely enjoy using the Pu-21 with the 45 round mag and the XMG for all around purposes and spawn trapping as well. Not a fan of the GPMG tbh
LMGs are okay, so long as you don't try to move. The omnimovement system is so dependent on you starting to sprint before doing anything else, so the huge movement downsides of LMG just put you at a massive disadvantage against ARs and especially SMGs that can keep moving rapidly, especially up close when you have less time to react.
Turn on auto sprint
@@Kyle-nm1kheven with that on LMGs are gonna get cooked.
Na man, support’s my permanent class in every game and even though “slow movement’s” totally true in most games… you can still dive jump and 180 instantly even from prone anytime you want.
First game ever where I don’t feel hindered by the bulkiness and limited movement of LMG’s. I’ve pulled so many “reversals” where a dude hits me from a hiding spot as I’m sprinting, I dive and mid-air pop him before he can get me.
Plus, you gotta stay ADS’d at all times, sprint-to-fire will never match more nimble classes. Then mount corners/barriers whenever one’s near, hold a fire lane and you’re golden.
@Thebigskullman always ADS before you even see anybody. Otherwise, hipfire.
@@Kyle-nm1kh hipfire’s literally just spray and pray though, but you’re right, it’s better than trying to ads when someone’s already shooting you. Better than nothing at least (but like a 5% chance you hit them)
Just waiting for the M60 to come back that’s my favourite LMG
I like the concept of the M60 (really slow fire rate but hits like a truck) but I never use it in games because the handling is so abysmal. even max mobility on it, it's still garbage
@ was fantastic in Cold War
@@cj_superstar9451 I'm of the opinion that the M60 was horrible in cold war, everyone was saying so. it just handled too slow, it was like 600ms ads time. thankfully lmgs are not that slow in bo6 so if they do add the M60 then it should be decent
@@yes_lad oh fair enough, it was actually such a strong gun I had over 20k kills with it with a 2.6kd, I miss Cold War much better game than bo6 in my opinion
@cj_superstar9451 I personally hated CW probably because of the movement coming straight off the fluidity of mw19
I like the I like how the PU-21 has the unique under barrel attachment that helps with control and ADS it’s been fun running around with it on and other mobility attachments kind like a pseudo-AR
I'm really hoping we get the M60 and PKM at some point
Yeah, I'd love a slow firing and hard hitting LMG/GPMG in the game too.
Hell, I think they just lack those slow firing 3 shot kill guns, it's only the Tanto .22 and the Goblin Mk. 2 that fills that niche for me at the moment.
Hold ADS, waddle around a corner spraying and hoping for a kill. Been the same for years.
They aren’t in my lobbies 😂 if you don’t use the best weapons good luck
every lobby
XM4, AS VAL, Jackal, C9. MAYBE KSV. that’s literally it
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Your cod lobbies don't get enough a$$
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Been waiting for this 😂
My favorite LMG is the Akimbo Full-Auto pistol with the drum mags.
The crossbar attachment is such a disappointment. There's really no point to have it on since it doesn't really increase the movement/handling.
It definitely ain't no Chainsaw, Crossbar Hades, Bracefire Taq, etc.
Glad it's not it was very oppressive especially in Nuketown 24/7 in bo4. Still to this day you'll have four stacks or more running lobbies with the hades crossbar.
@@Potato_n_Tomato hard disagree. I love it. It's obviously not meant to be the most competitive option but it's absolutely a blast.
Dude the mw3 crossbar attachment makes the bo6 one look like a joke
@@shadowtitan8545 the Hades was the worse LMG in BO4 even with the chainsaw mod
@SkyRiseDon You must have a bad memory. Sure, the Titan was way better, but mobility wise, the hades was superior. Again, go try to play Nuketown 24/7 on bo4. You may come up against 4-6 stacks full of crossbars. It's was busted.
I've had great success with them while camp grinding. I might keep the XMG in the rotation once I'm done. Never having to reload can be super helpful in racking up kills and not dying.
I’ve been enjoying leveling the LMG’s on Nuketown. Thermal, FMJ and the spy camera (wall hacks!) is so nasty.
I been playing with the xmg since the beta and it just shreds. I use a 200 extended mag on it. You have to hang back though. Don’t run around like a mad man with this gun. Shoot all them meth heads sprinting around from a distance. If you’re good enough you’ll even out gun some snipers.
Exactly, you gotta think about laying down suppressive fire to keep the attention on yourself so (hopefully) your team can move in unnoticed or gtfo if they landed in a killbox.
Its always fun just hammering a sniper with 200 bullets from the XMG across the map, I tend to run shock sticks, c4/blast trap and mines whenever im using one of the LMG's, just to make it a bit harder to try and jump my position.
@ nice I’m gonna have to try that set up. I been using the prox alam myself so the don’t sneak up on me.
Thanks for the videos. Would take ages to test all this myself
Im actually having a really good time with the LMGs in this cod. Thank you for making these videos
I've mained LMGs since og MW and some tips I'd suggest:
BURST fire, no more than 4-5 rounds at a time, anti-flinch stocks will help you edge out those pucker situations
THINK about your position, you don't have advantage on movement junkies so mind your surroundings
WATCH your angles like a sniper, know where to go from cover to cover because you'll lose a quick draw fight almost every time
FORGET reloading, until you've used them a while, you're likely not gonna need to reload more than once in a life with base Mag cap,
COMPENSATE your recoil with attachments or you'll only hit empty air
COMMUNICATE with your team, get a buddy, reloading is when you'll die the most at first,
USE IRON SIGHTS if you aren't adding extra slots for attachments, irons are love, irons are life.
DONT WORRY ABOUT DYING. It happens, it takes a lot of time to get good at these games already, don't stress yourself even more.
I've only ever used the XMG and GPMG-7 in Campaign so I can't give an opinion on their performance, but I absolutely love the PU-21. It reminds me of the Bruen MK9.
I knew I wasn’t tripping with the XMG when it came to headshots in the beta. It was a headshot machine, literally felt like I couldn’t stop getting headshot kills even when I wasn’t going for them that much. Great for kill feeds. 😂🔥
Excellent video, thanks!
LETS GO IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE. WHERE MY LMG BOIS AT RAAAAAAAAAAAA
Great video ..can you do a best attachment to use with the lmgs setups
Biggest problem with the GPMG is, being such a late unlock, you'll never actually get to use it if you're prestiging as that comes up.
If you willingly break your own legs and give up some of the most powerful movement we’ve had in years AND you can pre-fire every gunfight to work around the trigger delay, the LMGs are excellent!
So no, they’re not very good lmao.
Smg then
holding a lane/angle with a big box mag lmg and firing down it is so effective because people will just run into your bullet hose. close range they're not great but at medium long you can absolutely tear up enemies
I personally love the PU, it just feels good
The pre fire delay should be deleted in treyarch games. Or at least be like 20 Ms
Thank you so much for these videos.
GPMG-7 w/ crossbar, extended mag 4 and fmj. Absolutely shreds in mid-close range maps. Not a run and gun but once you get the play stye down, it's very strong imo
I like the GPMG. However, one of the cams challenges has me trying to use it like an SMG, because of the Point Blank kills needed. That's a pain! I always have managed to get LMGs ranked up and fully cam's before any other weapon!
They're the most slept on class right now, and with FMJ and a large mag, walls are an illusion
I’m glad I’m not the only one who doesn’t like the pu-21
2 ace videos in one day?! let’s goooo!!
i have been absolutely beaming with the GPMG to my surprise while leveling it up to max, was doing better than with some of my AR's
Got LMGs diamond, found the XMG the most enjoyable experience out of the lot.
Thank you for your work sir.
The pre-fire delay is pretty rough.
I want to love the PU cause I think Mag Loaded LMG’s are cool, but it’s a struggle at times.
I like all 3 LMG. My favorite most fun guns in the game. Better mobility than past games and great TTK. And they just sound cooler than the other guns, that have kinda gone back to sounding like typewriters.
8:11 "You can't be playing this like it's an SMG"
*Bum rushes into enemies spawn and wipes the entire team out*
Great vidoe Ace thanks.
Ooo that explains why lmgs feel so inconsistent to me.
I’m really curious about your thoughts on pistols and snipers. Especially the druganov, that thing is ridiculous.
something about the gpmg is just so fun to me idk, maybe its the fire rate. makes me feel like rambo lol
Small suggestion, your channel is great BTW. I’d love if you’d do recoil testing when mounting a gun a ledge.
I've been getting some play of the games using the PU-21 with the 45 round magazine. For some reason I seem to get quite a few headshots when using it.
Ive been messing around with PU with the biggest magazine and the tac stance laser and just holding the trigger down. Its so stupid its fun
XMG is King
I do like the XMG with thermo and a few vert recoil control. A mobile stock and it's a nice laser with 150mag.
Thoughts on pu21 with fast short mag? (The 60 rounder) Does it change your opinion or make it competitive with ars?
I really enjoyed the XMG. It was personally my fav
Got the first 2 LMGS gold the XMG is surprisingly accurate
Really have been enjoying the PU 21 the XMG kills me on reload but need to unlock the smaller mags but been enjoying them
When will they have a game of no delay with LMGS.
No wonder why not many people use them.
Bring back the LSAT LMG supremacy 😭😭
It was the PU cuz the mobility but dude even with attachments the recoil is a bit much especially at range, so now it’s the gmp, but I need to give the xmg a try.
I've found the crossbar and tac laser get you a bunch of headshots surprisingly
XMG with extended mags 1 gets 50 extra shots (50% increase) but the reload time feels the same rn? Around 6.5 seconds like the base reload
XMG with recoil attachments is crazy easy to use, I don't even main it and it's still one of my go-to "I want to get a crazy streak without much effort" guns.
i actaully like the P{U21. I like how pretty much every gun is competitive and it largely comes down to play style and prefernce
Just wondering if the crossbar attachment is worthwhile since I didn’t see anyone ever use it?
I'd say you are better off relegating it to Zombies loadouts. It's by no means bad, more that I find it better to play to the LMG's strengths in multiplayer.
Love the lmg. My first diamond class of guns
I know this is Cod and realism is not a major concern, but It still feels weird to see the 2 LMGs using smaller caliber have faster TTK than the one loaded with 7.62 NATO. But it's all for balancing purposes when you take their fire rate into account as well, I guess
Very happy to see you've addressed the green/yellow issue for us colour blind viewers on your chart. Thank you, it makes the world of difference to us
The last lmg is actually insane
Well, I haven’t touched any of the LMGs yet in BO6 but out of these three, I’d lean towards the XMG. 100 round base mag and solid 4-shot kill range is what I most like about it. That’s all I said.
PU21 kills fast I love it
Very surprised by the recoil plots with gpmp. It was my least favorite lmg to use.
its the second third and fourth kill that make lmgs great
The LMGs are headshot machines!
Neen an LMG main sense black ops 1s M60! Just got daimond for all my LMGs. I think the XM1 is a good balance of the 3
Every year the LMGs and Marksman Rifles are overtuned. No one uses them because they aren’t meta
They give us super cramped maps with the squirreliest movement ever and then wonder why no one wants to use a super slow, clunky weapon class lol.
While they aren't meta the marksman rifles are my favorite category. l just finished getting them diamond yesterday. I wish they were better but I like using off meta guns anyway.
thats not even true. the lsat, the dingo, the titan, the bruen, the stoner....all of those lmgs where spammed to hell and back in their respective games.
its just that they need to be truely busted to even make up for their handling and movement penalties and compete with rifles and smgs, especially in treyarc and sledgehammer games where you often can throw huge mags on rifles and smgs for free and some guns like the cordite even get insane bullet pen with smg handling and movement
Honestly, everyone complains when there's a DMR or LMG in the meta, so can you blame them?
Uh the marksman rifles in this game are good especially the swat and the tsarkov 7.62. I really enjoy the headshot barrel on them. The lmgs aren’t really that bad if you don’t stack too heavily on attachments that reduce your mobility
Got 2 out of 3 gold. Need to now work on the gpmg and will need to use a prestige token on it as its a level 50 odd unlock haha
I love the GP the fire rate is so satisfying
Can you please make a video on the terrible desync/net code in this game? Makes it absolutely unplayable
peak LMG gameplay : small map 200 round, keep holding left mouse into any potential enemy direction, rack up prefire kills.
forget about reload, you die and respawn to refill your magazine. "i'm not dead, this is what i call 'reloading my weapon' ".
So real
The pu21 is really good. The smaller mag is nice.
As an aged gamer, XMG was a saving grace that kept in in the game.
Yes I'm a camper, I don't have the reflexes to handle MW3 movement never mind BO6 omnipotent diving out of windows into your face run and gun BS.... I'll find a nice little choke point or set one up and score easy 40+ kills in TDM but my favourite thing is Kill Confirmed... I set up my choke points and bait with decoy grenade.... 😈 then bait with the dog tags it's too good. After 3 kills change location as you'll always have a sweaty player looking for that revenge medal. (Of course, I leave a spring mine for them as a parting gift)
u can upgrade your monitor, a better higher refresh rate would help your crosshair stay on target better especially smg run and gun meta, also increase your mouse sensitivity too.
XMG in HC is pretty awesome I gotta say, I hate how inaccurate the PU21 is
You will not catch me using and LMG in COD, but if I did, suppressor + thermal + extended mags + smoke grenades.
I like them all but the XMG i feel sluggish and the 7 second reload always gets me killed how fast the gameplay is. The game need more attachments that help benefit the LMGs
Trying to get point blank kills with the gpm was a pain in the ***
7:46 shot gun sprint to fire time being so high makes for amazing rage against lmgs 😂
Overkill with a XMG with gain twist barrel, extended mag 2 and FMJ is great for spam killing UAVs and CUAVs for lots of score
I get better kill without barrel, grip is better than barrel