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Ral Partha was great compared to some of the others on the market at the same time. Late 80s - Early 90s Grenadier, for example. Better than many of the same-time period GW sculpts.
10:50 I completely disagree with you, that model's appearance is fitting for what it represents and has aged well. The other Nurgle model is also not too bad.
@@TheOneStooge I mean they're different things aesthetically, the current Prince is objectively less dated and easier to customize whereas the older Nurgle one only works because it's nurgle. Just because it's a classic doesn't neccescarily make them better than the mediocre/average counterparts.
I agree, miss on that one. Nurgle Demon prince rocks. I made a Captain Spaulding out of that model, so many cool creepy details you can play with, does not deserve to be here. Especially when the 1990's plastic Saurus models exist, sorry to be repetitive, but those were really really really crappy looking, how did they not make the list?
I also like it. I feel like a lot of these were supposed to be ugly, I mean, its a demon prince of Nurgle. I guess I have a lot of nostalgic love for that mini too, but I honestly think the plastic demon prince kit is waaaaay worse.
I think that the old chaos Marine Daemon prince was a better sculpt the the new plastic kit out now. they jumped to far from what people are interested in and what is better for children hobbyist
Is it bad that nagash was my first “big” miniature as a kid.. I remember sitting with super glue holding the model together for ages,, just to find I had glued my finger to the metal lol
The Genestealer Patriarch mini is not ugly! It was actually pretty awesome when you were playing the first Space Hulk with the Genestealer Expansion in the Final Assault Mission. I always loved the idea that he is sitting in his throne room sending out his minions against the Space Marines... But admittedly on a 40k Battlefield the new Models are much cooler!
What came first. The good looking models or WC3 Zerg? Because it's pretty obvious that the later models are if nothing else a bit inspired by them. Would be kinda nice if that's the case considering I have read something about Warcraft starting out as a project for GW and then ending up as it's own IP because they had some kind of disagreement and broke off their deal.
@@aBoogivogi good looking models, tyranid warriors precede wc3, along with gaunts which set the 5 edge, which would be followed by the trygon and others
My favorites are Khorne Berszerkers. I liked how intuitive and easy they were to paint. "Just slab some red paint across the mini, add some gold to the trims and drop some steel onto the weapons. Voila! Now go ask for a Golden Demon, kid!" Never glued the sergeant head though: in 2004 painting faces was too much for me.
Very surprised to find the Dark Elf dragon on here. I think its a perfect sculpt of a truly vile and evil dragon. In any case... thanks for an entertaining video! 😃
I thought the same thing as a lot of dragon heads are done terrible and I thought this was done very well. And then I rewinded and saw the teeth. It's the only thing I can think of that could trigger people. And then it started to annoy me too. So I think if I had the model I would attempt to file them down so that they'd be smaller. But the thing is with all these miniatures they use exaggerated features and something like teeth are one of those spots that might have that. But ugliest is always going to be subjective.
I still love old Nagash, and i will deny every evidence about how bad he looks :D I remember i left him as the last mini of the army to paint because i wanted to give him the best paintjob i could
couldn't get the old nagah back in time... got it a few month ago for a couple euros... i'm so glad i get to paint this ugly charismatic mini... also planning to play the old 4th edition just for him... ;)
You left out the worst of the worst: The last metal possessed chaos space marine gw released. Just completly terrible!! Rogue trader dreadnoght rocks, though. You´re terrible for thinking it´s terrible:P
I'll be honest, the Nurgle Daemon Prince still holds up today, even with the paint-job of the time. I'm glad they're still selling it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I also love how James Swallow made the one from the debut battle report, that Eavy Metal painted one shown, from the Medusa V worldwide campaign canon in Flight of the Eisenstien by naming the traitor death guard captain Grulgor, that then attacks the ship when its lost in the warp. I think with him, the gross is not a bad sculpt, its exactly capturing the blergh of Nurgle
Dam right. Thank you Joe. Never been a big fan of the color GW uses for Nurgle armor but this model rules, If they take it down the better replace it with a dam cool one, otherwise i'll be mad AF all those cool little gorey details they put in are a horror movie fans wet dream. Not to mention great price compared to many of the other large models, IMO it's the best kit option for converting your own custom freakbeast. Edit: AAAnnnnnnnndddd I just talked myself into buying another one, lol I gotta stop watching youtube it's getting expensive.
Have to disagree on the genestealer patriarch. I love that mini, the throne and the adviser. One of my favourite minis. Got pride of place in my display cabinet.
I am with you on that one. I think the face has charm and it's a big blob of a beast. I used to use one in Spacehulk but long since lost the model sadly.
I totally agree! If you look at the description of the Patriarch from the 1980s he was described as an overweight grotesque creature. I feel like to make him pretty would have been an injustice. The new Patriarch while being hundreds of times better in terms of the sculp just doesnt look grotesque enough for me.
As someone who is a full Lumineth player, I really like how the alarith stoneguard look, their helmets show off their cool lore and the aetherquartz gems in their armor is a really nice touch. Their weapons also look really cool too.
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You seem to be missing some of the Inquisitor minis, as the sculpt quality varied hugely between the characters. Some got amazing sculpts and others were terrible, the assassins were great, as was Eisenhorn. Others were just terrible. I love the story about Nagash, they pushed that mini out early and even the sculptor said he had originally had another couple of months to finish working on it but they just took that version from his area and made it.
There's also an unreleased head variant that looks more like the art, as I understand it the head we got replaced the original to make him more cartoony for some reason.
@@rakelodakel Actually a head ressembling the old artwork would be a major improvement on that model. It really is the head that is bugging me about that miniature.
Ugly is in the eye of the beholder , oh and BTW i have a Space-wolf force (in the 100s of pieces) and it is from the Rouge trader time , So Squid , Stop dissing my force you child ! ;-) .
I should make a video about it too ahahahaah Anyway nothing beat the Wight king on sheketon horse. Or the old Isabella Von Drak Or the Seraphon Naggaronts for actual saurus knights... So awful...
trajann valoris. full stop. i think custodians are damn ugly, uglier than the old tyranids from the old space hulk and also the old dialogus looks like an angry teacher critising the F- an inquisitor got
The necromunda bounty hunter was also a rogue Psycher, One of my favourite models I ever bought. He came as a two pack and the other chap was really good .
I used to paint professionally and competitively, wrote for several magazines and had a huge collection on minis from the mid 70s forward. Later I worked in TV and music as a prop builder and prop master and built for museums, the military and private collections. The difference between those early 70s and mid 90s is like the difference between the 80s and 90s and now. I played 40K when you had the 4 books, one for each faction plus the rules for the Imperium, ah the good old days reeking havoc with a 40,000 point army to choose from. Love seeing the minis today and still enjoy the 40K lore and books. Enjoy watching you young guns keeping it going.
@@SquidmarMiniatures thanks for the reply. Yep OG lol and proud of it. Me and a friend were the guys people would travel to the game store where we played just to challenge us. You still played the long way on an 8 foot table so movement and strategy meant more. But the painting was so much fun I would buy collections just to repaint them to follow the lore of the Horus Heresy and the Black Hands. I just retired as a professional model builder building large models for companies and the military. Great to be able to do but nothing like painting minis and building terrain.
Perhaps it's just me, but so many of the GW miniatures released over the past 3 years or so have been horribly over-engineered. Sure, technically they are great, but there is too much detail, too many ornaments, leaving the miniatures uncustomisable and well, a bit like over-decorated Christmas trees. Perhaps it's just me, but I preferred the miniatures GW were producing a decade ago.
This is what happens when the model is sculpt on a computer. GW minis have lost that spark of being sculpted by hand. Too perfect looking, and far too detailed.
I love how in each of the videos when he thanks his supporters he always looks a little bit emotional. It's small things like this that make the videos seem completely authentic and sincere. Not all TH-camrs seem authentic, Emil definitely always does.
Was so happy you said your praise for Nagash, I played undead back in the 90's and he was always one I wanted and never got. Nostalgia be damned I love him!!
the screamer killer was an amazing model for the time, certainly compared to those metal warrior models. but you missed the ugliest tyranid model, the first metal tyrant guard, woof. The Genestealer patriarch was awesome as well, he was bloated with power which is why he looked like that. While i agree with you on Arielle, you have to remember that most of the stuff from the 80s was actually amazing compared to what else was out there. i remember being enthralled by those models becuase compared to the basic D&D minis they were masters. Very glad you added Nagash, that one is the worst.
A few year back, I had a friend starting in painting that wanted to paint gandalf. He didn't knew that you have to thin your paints, so the result was something we called Gandalf the (way too) Grey
When the year was in 2001 i was 12 collecting Tyranids through 3-4 gen. Now in 2020 im 27 seeing that ancient uselesss Biovore (Yes no one used Biovores they were shit) and Old Eye and Red Terror just makes me cry interally for mercy for them. GW please it's literally been over 20 years for these.
People must understand that those miniatures were sculpted by hand, not by 3D softwares. This is why they were imprecise, "weid", and had a bunch of proportions errors. But they were lovely anyway. Today, the miniatures are created with the use of 3D modeling softwares, this is why they look so precise. Imagine, at that time, they had to manually sculpt each spacemarine pose, all from scratch. Now, instead, they can create the model, rig it, and the put the guy in the desired pose. You will not see errors and the proportions are perfectly the same.
and still the greeks and romans built perfectly beautiful statues out of freaking marble. sure bigger scale but the lines are smooth and perfect. its just that the games workshop sculpters werent really masters of their craft. but they still created something lovable :) which is warhammer
Although you could compare it to something like Mierce Miniatures, where some are sculpted with 3D but a great many are still done using the old-fashioned methods.
I'm with you Emil! Nagash was one of my first miniatures that I bought with my allowance when I was 13 y.o. and I can't separate myself from the nostalgia to see that sculpt objectively.
Maybe I should do it :) I know alot of player will go, what the hell is that?!? Only thing is that the base would have to be very scenic seeing how huge 130mm would be according to the actual model. But your idea have at least got me thinking here :)
I actually own some of the Female Space Marines (in lead) buried in my storage unit somewhere... As a Tyranid player I'd love to have some of those old Screamer Killer Carnifexes! Look at them, they just wanna HUG YOU! 🤗
I had that cheerleader ork when I was a kid. Ordered some mini's from GW but they were out of stock. They sent a credit note and a bag full of random minis, including that cheerleader ork. I had that dreadnought too. He was ace back in the day, although when the next generation of dreadnoughts came out, he got binned. The only model I still have from my old collection is a Catachan jungle fighter from the early 90s.
Dark elf dragon is actually REALLY good if you paint it well, I painted mine like the box art and it came out GREAT, I wish it was bigger (its too skinny) but I think the sculpt is still pretty modern but I'd like an updated version!
Don't think they will since Forge World update kit is still available. Also World Eaters is a faction that is so easy to convert with Age of Sigmar models, that i don't know if GW would make much money from a new berserker kit. Selling the current kit is kind of a scam for new players. Current berserkers require conversion to look as good as current Chaos SM kit.
I think the new Lumineth realm models look amazing personally, I'm going to try an alternate color scheme but I love the idea of not the traditional elves. Hammer elves? lets go
I actually highly prefer the old slaanesh fiends over the new ones they just looks perfect for what they are the new ones are fine but l am still upset they replaced it
Elrond and Gil-Galad were probably my favourite models in my High Elf army - I couldn't believe the likeness they managed to get of Hugo Weaving, I remember sitting at a friend's house, marvelling at it on the Games Workshop website back in like 2002 or something. And Gil-Galad is just an absolute bad-ass, look at him!
1. termagaunts (who are literally xenomorphs with guns, yes very creative gw) 2. basicly any ork or nurgle vehicle (although they are supposed to look ugly in their defense) 3. and yes that screaming fanatic lady lol
@Epic the overly rounded shape of the model also adds a lot to it's goofiness, I mean, that suit of power armor looks more suited to one of the M&M's mascots than a human being.
It's amazing how much better miniature sculptors have gotten in just the last few years. The skill cap is significantly higher that it was back in the day, even leaving all the digital sculpts aside.
hey squidy, i do it with your lamp, its awesome now to paint with this new light, i start warhammer by the 2nd edition. You are right , there was a lot of ugly metal miniatures. but as a young player i was pround on every on. i love your channel and i learned a lot . thank you so much . greeding from austria
I still have several of the older ones still in thier boxes, unbuilt. Durthu, Nagash, Ork cheerleaders, and a few of the original Great Unclean Ones too. And you forgot the Groat miniature.
I play against a dude very regularly who plays Cities of Sigmar with a witch on Black Dragon . Everytime we play against each other, I buff my King on Terrogheist like hell, and instantly deletes the Black Dragon just so the table can look somewhat decent without that ugly trash on the table.
I'm not even kidding. Last game before Corona, his dragon took triple 6 on the gaping maw w/ gruesome bite (buffed by the Archregent with +3 attacks), 18 Mortal wonds in a single blow.
3:39, the Tyranid Screamer Killer/Carnifex still is one of my favourite GW models, as it got me a Silver Demon in 1994 :D! Took me 20 days to blend the claws!
It's nice "weather" out, has snow on the ground and looks like a nice winter day. *looks out my window* oh look its 81F and raining outside. . . freaking squidmar
So forgive me if this seems like a weird'-ass question, but where did you get that case with the eagle painted green, right @1:40 or so? Did you paint it that way yourself, or did you get the case in that condition?
@@SquidmarMiniatures I ask because I did the exact same thing, with im pretty sure those EXACT colors. I had two, one green and one with blue. I sold all of my figures probably a decade ago, so I genuinely thought that I just saw my old case on a video.
That Nagash model is still so very cool. I did paint every single undead miniature, but did not dare to touch Nagash with a brush as I feared to ruin him. I was so proud when I got him
Lol, I used to have that Tyranid Carnifex in the thumbnail. I took some rubber cement, made it drip from its mouth, then used a glaze sealant to harden it, giving it the impression of it drooling. I also crafted some skulls and guts out of clay to put on the base, painted them appropriately.
Hey Squidmar! I have a question for you, where did you get that sweet Battle for Skull Pass Dwarf Art poster in your background (9:25 timestamp for reference)? I want one, it looks wicked! I recently got my hands on a complete, still on sprue Battle for Skull Pass box :)
i have a couple of those old ork dreds and they're pretty hilarious and charming in a way. The only problem i have with old orks is their equipment looks so different to their more modern stuff so fielding a mixed army of old and new models looks really odd with orks wielding bolt pistols and dreds with plasma guns and heavy bolters (because that's actually what they used back then, just straight up stolen imperial tech) next to their more unique hodgepodge stuff from recent times.
The Screamer Killer Fex is what got me into wargaming. Saw it in a store and was blown away by how awesome it looked. Funny thing is I also purchased original Nagash just a couple of days ago, but without a head. Will probably use Saurons head for him so he's covered in metal and matches the Grave Guard from vampire counts. The rest of that sculpt is very solid, the face is a bit...meh... Overall I agree with most things. But of course also an exception for Epidemius and Nurgle Daemon Prince, I still think those look awesome.
Squats in exoarmor were pretty awesome! Minis that I think are cool or actually nice from the video: -The old ork dread - looks goofy but still cool. Perfect orky mecha thing. -The nurgle lord - looks funny and weird, but also gross. Works for me. -Dark Elf Dragon -. nothing wrong with that? Could be bigger. Don't get the face issue...
I would give a honourable mention to the first generation of Chaos Space Marine Oblitterators. Those were not on the market for very long, and that's a good thing!
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I'm going to buy one, and take care of it
@Allie Neesan
First of all, that's awfully rude, and secondly, no it isn't!
You should have paid the guys on fiver to make you your ariel wifu mini that looks dope
Has anyone seen the Great Clean One conversion?
You forgot the first plastic Seraphon run, those were the worst.
We'll need a top 20 best looking minis
Agree!
True dat
Drashia blood bowl troll for sure!
I'd say most of them will come from AOS. I can understand if people don't like the game, but boy, a crapload of aos models just look gorgeous.
New serasz will definetly make the list
The screamer killer was a work of art.
Agree. There’s something special about its silhouette and design of the head. It’s really terrifying. .
Agreed. Classic 90s tyranids were pretty unique looking (even thought they were basically alien rip offs)
It was unusually thicc
indeed.
Yes it was funny, as for the panning shot of all the old dreadnaughts the Screamer Killer stood out as looking like the one that had aged the best!
Shhhh. Nobody let Emil find out about old Ral Partha minis.
Oh I did a video on those already 😅
My ral partha chimera is one of my favourite mosels
Ral Partha are great, but their online catalogue to this day SUCKS. Always has, always will. You need a magnifier to see the images.
Ral Partha was great compared to some of the others on the market at the same time. Late 80s - Early 90s Grenadier, for example. Better than many of the same-time period GW sculpts.
Old Nagash was great. People have no taste.
Stop calling little carni ugly. He's doing his very best
10:50 I completely disagree with you, that model's appearance is fitting for what it represents and has aged well. The other Nurgle model is also not too bad.
Yea, gotta disagree there. The Nurgle Daemon Prince is a classic and STILL is better than the current Prince model despite it's age.
@@TheOneStooge I mean they're different things aesthetically, the current Prince is objectively less dated and easier to customize whereas the older Nurgle one only works because it's nurgle. Just because it's a classic doesn't neccescarily make them better than the mediocre/average counterparts.
It's better then the plastic one that looks like it was ripped out of a Saturday morning cartoon.
Yeah its ugly - because its meant to be ugly. You don't want a pretty Nurgle daemon!
I agree, miss on that one. Nurgle Demon prince rocks. I made a Captain Spaulding out of that model, so many cool creepy details you can play with, does not deserve to be here. Especially when the 1990's plastic Saurus models exist, sorry to be repetitive, but those were really really really crappy looking, how did they not make the list?
Dude, that Daemon Prince still look solid.
Dankmunda the nurgle one? absolutely agree, really cool model.
I also like it. I feel like a lot of these were supposed to be ugly, I mean, its a demon prince of Nurgle. I guess I have a lot of nostalgic love for that mini too, but I honestly think the plastic demon prince kit is waaaaay worse.
Somehow, the Nurgle DP is on the list, but awful FB/AOS "minotaurs@ isn't.
At first I thought it was ugly and goofy looking, but now I have one and I love it!
I think that the old chaos Marine Daemon prince was a better sculpt the the new plastic kit out now. they jumped to far from what people are interested in and what is better for children hobbyist
I can just hear that Sister shouting NO CAPES!
Is it bad that nagash was my first “big” miniature as a kid.. I remember sitting with super glue holding the model together for ages,, just to find I had glued my finger to the metal lol
K Silk
"If you're getting frustrated, you should put it down!"
"I CAN'T put it down, that's the issue!"
Not at all, Nagash is love! That old bastard of a model is great!
The true pain of using super glue is realising that your fingers are stuck to the model and if you try to pull them off you will break it again
The Genestealer Patriarch mini is not ugly! It was actually pretty awesome when you were playing the first Space Hulk with the Genestealer Expansion in the Final Assault Mission. I always loved the idea that he is sitting in his throne room sending out his minions against the Space Marines... But admittedly on a 40k Battlefield the new Models are much cooler!
I've actually always liked the old carnefex, granted the new ones are better.
Me too, classic model.
The original carnifex was awesome, the next carnifex was bad, and then the plastic carnifex was the top epicness.
Way better than the linebacker they came out with after it.
I actually do have a old Carnifex.
I think part of the problem is the gaudy paint style that was in vogue back then. I wonder what it would look like with a more modern paint scheme.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH BIOMASS IN THE 80'S OK!! *ANGRY BUG NOISES*
So the 'nids were still cultivating mass? Like Mac on Always Sunny?
What came first. The good looking models or WC3 Zerg? Because it's pretty obvious that the later models are if nothing else a bit inspired by them. Would be kinda nice if that's the case considering I have read something about Warcraft starting out as a project for GW and then ending up as it's own IP because they had some kind of disagreement and broke off their deal.
@@aBoogivogi good looking models, tyranid warriors precede wc3, along with gaunts which set the 5 edge, which would be followed by the trygon and others
@@aBoogivogi the basic look of Tyranids which zerg copied came out in late 2nd and very early 3rd. Before the zerg were a thing.
@@battlez9577 What's the 5 edge?
My favorites are Khorne Berszerkers.
I liked how intuitive and easy they were to paint.
"Just slab some red paint across the mini, add some gold to the trims and drop some steel onto the weapons. Voila! Now go ask for a Golden Demon, kid!"
Never glued the sergeant head though: in 2004 painting faces was too much for me.
Very surprised to find the Dark Elf dragon on here. I think its a perfect sculpt of a truly vile and evil dragon.
In any case... thanks for an entertaining video! 😃
Yeah, I thought the dragon looked pretty good too.
I have the dragon and yes the dragon is very cool but both the riders are ugly as hell
I thought the same thing as a lot of dragon heads are done terrible and I thought this was done very well. And then I rewinded and saw the teeth. It's the only thing I can think of that could trigger people. And then it started to annoy me too. So I think if I had the model I would attempt to file them down so that they'd be smaller. But the thing is with all these miniatures they use exaggerated features and something like teeth are one of those spots that might have that. But ugliest is always going to be subjective.
i cant unsee how huge the teeth are and how they wouldnt fit in its mouth
love that dragon too! Noxious breath will do a number on those teeth and everyone's.
I actually like the biovore. I find it kind of funny in that, like “dumpy bulldog” sort of way
Also worth remembering that its face was meant to hint at Bivores being Ork DNA hybrids.
Yeah he isn't ugly, just weird but in a good way
I don't own one yet but I definitely will
@@nicholassinnett2958 And that fluff bit fits really well with the fungoid nature of the Orks, after all it fires....err...spores.
@@Andyp12 I've been collecting 40K for 18 years, and I only just made the Ork spores-spore mine connection now that you pointed it out. Damn it.
The current Biovore is odd, but the original Biovore is genuinely bad.
I still love old Nagash, and i will deny every evidence about how bad he looks :D
I remember i left him as the last mini of the army to paint because i wanted to give him the best paintjob i could
Yeah man, i feel like i spent FOREVER painting my old Nagash model, i still think he's a classic and boy did he scare opponents on the battlefield lol
couldn't get the old nagah back in time... got it a few month ago for a couple euros... i'm so glad i get to paint this ugly charismatic mini... also planning to play the old 4th edition just for him... ;)
My mate played Dark Elves his comment to ugly Nagash was "at least you got your supreme leader"
You left out the worst of the worst: The last metal possessed chaos space marine gw released. Just completly terrible!! Rogue trader dreadnoght rocks, though. You´re terrible for thinking it´s terrible:P
The fulgrim model is just a "why?" type moment. It looks like a gummy worm with arms and wings.
I like your avatar.
It is beautiful.
@@biikuajet i too like your avatar. It is wholesome.
Oh wow. Look up Tomb King Sepulchral Stalkers and you'll know where they recycled that body from.
Aren’t you talking about a conversion now? The one made by Helge.
I like both of your profiles. Maybe turn on the lights next time you take the pic though.
I'll be honest, the Nurgle Daemon Prince still holds up today, even with the paint-job of the time. I'm glad they're still selling it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I also love how James Swallow made the one from the debut battle report, that Eavy Metal painted one shown, from the Medusa V worldwide campaign canon in Flight of the Eisenstien by naming the traitor death guard captain Grulgor, that then attacks the ship when its lost in the warp. I think with him, the gross is not a bad sculpt, its exactly capturing the blergh of Nurgle
I gotta agree. I really never understood why people weren't fond of it
Criticising a Nugle model for being ugly is like criticising a honey macadamia pie for being sweet.
Dam right. Thank you Joe. Never been a big fan of the color GW uses for Nurgle armor but this model rules, If they take it down the better replace it with a dam cool one, otherwise i'll be mad AF all those cool little gorey details they put in are a horror movie fans wet dream. Not to mention great price compared to many of the other large models, IMO it's the best kit option for converting your own custom freakbeast. Edit: AAAnnnnnnnndddd I just talked myself into buying another one, lol I gotta stop watching youtube it's getting expensive.
yeah i just finished painting mine i love it
I always thought it was just me that thought the Ariel model was hideous. Was always a bummer because she was such a powerful character back then.
That Patriarch sculpt is awesome - like an alien mafia boss!
And you gotta be real brainwashed to think he's worthy of loyalty
@@battlez9577 totally :D
Yea i think it was actually perfect for the artstyle.
The Ork Cheerleader is amazing! Absolutely needed to be just like that.
Have to disagree on the genestealer patriarch. I love that mini, the throne and the adviser. One of my favourite minis. Got pride of place in my display cabinet.
It's ugly but like intentionally and in a good way
It’s such a funky looking model but great at the same time. Shame about the price, I had to pay close to 100$ to get one with everything included.
Keep the throne and adviser but maybe replace the old patriarch with the new model but you will need to convert it
I am with you on that one. I think the face has charm and it's a big blob of a beast. I used to use one in Spacehulk but long since lost the model sadly.
I totally agree! If you look at the description of the Patriarch from the 1980s he was described as an overweight grotesque creature. I feel like to make him pretty would have been an injustice. The new Patriarch while being hundreds of times better in terms of the sculp just doesnt look grotesque enough for me.
As someone who is a full Lumineth player, I really like how the alarith stoneguard look, their helmets show off their cool lore and the aetherquartz gems in their armor is a really nice touch. Their weapons also look really cool too.
I love the Nurgle deamon prince WTF :D
In the blood bowl 2 videogame, you can select the orc cheerleaders ... seeing them animated and wiggling things will give you nightmares :)
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THIS. IS A GARGOYLE.
@@captainsuperfreak1607 "Compare to this. This is rubbish."
You can't even tell what this is!
You seem to be missing some of the Inquisitor minis, as the sculpt quality varied hugely between the characters. Some got amazing sculpts and others were terrible, the assassins were great, as was Eisenhorn. Others were just terrible.
I love the story about Nagash, they pushed that mini out early and even the sculptor said he had originally had another couple of months to finish working on it but they just took that version from his area and made it.
There's also an unreleased head variant that looks more like the art, as I understand it the head we got replaced the original to make him more cartoony for some reason.
@@rakelodakel Actually a head ressembling the old artwork would be a major improvement on that model. It really is the head that is bugging me about that miniature.
Waasaaaa everyone, i'd love yo hear your favorite ugly mini in the history of GW is! There are so many wonderfully funky models out there!
Ugly is in the eye of the beholder , oh and BTW i have a Space-wolf force (in the 100s of pieces) and it is from the Rouge trader time , So Squid , Stop dissing my force you child ! ;-) .
I should make a video about it too ahahahaah
Anyway nothing beat the Wight king on sheketon horse.
Or the old Isabella Von Drak
Or the Seraphon Naggaronts for actual saurus knights... So awful...
For me it is old Nagash so that's covered.
trajann valoris. full stop.
i think custodians are damn ugly, uglier than the old tyranids from the old space hulk
and also the old dialogus looks like an angry teacher critising the F- an inquisitor got
also i love the lumineth realmlord hat
13:55 ah yes, twig man who looks like he has been flushed down a toilet several times
Dude's got such a good 'to camera' persona. Chilled, friendly, articulate.
naaw
80s Genestealer models were practically lifted straight out of the TMNT comic. They freaking rule.
Dire Wraiths fromRom Space Knight and the Alien from Aliens.
Ymgarl genestealer ftw!
Dude, I still have that carnifex! How dare you!
Screamer killer is an amazing figure.
The old Genestealer Patriarch could make a nice base for a Nurgle daemon.
The necromunda bounty hunter was also a rogue Psycher, One of my favourite models I ever bought. He came as a two pack and the other chap was really good
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Love the screamer killer so much. He brought me in the hobby.
The Nurgle Demon Prince is just big Papa Nurgle energy. Totally fits the theme.
I used to paint professionally and competitively, wrote for several magazines and had a huge collection on minis from the mid 70s forward. Later I worked in TV and music as a prop builder and prop master and built for museums, the military and private collections. The difference between those early 70s and mid 90s is like the difference between the 80s and 90s and now. I played 40K when you had the 4 books, one for each faction plus the rules for the Imperium, ah the good old days reeking havoc with a 40,000 point army to choose from. Love seeing the minis today and still enjoy the 40K lore and books. Enjoy watching you young guns keeping it going.
That's awesome, OG warhammer player. I was just born at that time out came out. Such a rich history.
@@SquidmarMiniatures thanks for the reply. Yep OG lol and proud of it. Me and a friend were the guys people would travel to the game store where we played just to challenge us. You still played the long way on an 8 foot table so movement and strategy meant more. But the painting was so much fun I would buy collections just to repaint them to follow the lore of the Horus Heresy and the Black Hands. I just retired as a professional model builder building large models for companies and the military. Great to be able to do but nothing like painting minis and building terrain.
I really like the new Lumineth models, Cows and all. Haha.
Imagine coming into the room and seeing your father with a horse mask and cooking tools taped to it.
They are used to it 😉
Perhaps it's just me, but so many of the GW miniatures released over the past 3 years or so have been horribly over-engineered. Sure, technically they are great, but there is too much detail, too many ornaments, leaving the miniatures uncustomisable and well, a bit like over-decorated Christmas trees. Perhaps it's just me, but I preferred the miniatures GW were producing a decade ago.
This is what happens when the model is sculpt on a computer. GW minis have lost that spark of being sculpted by hand. Too perfect looking, and far too detailed.
Niinpä! Most of the minis are a major pain in the ass to paint these days. And for me, painting is the least favourite part of the hobby.
How dare you! The Screamer Killer was a work of perfection. I still use three as a brood.
Hey! You leave the Cuddle-Fex alone! All he wants is love!!!
4:00 he is one chill tyranid
I love how in each of the videos when he thanks his supporters he always looks a little bit emotional. It's small things like this that make the videos seem completely authentic and sincere. Not all TH-camrs seem authentic, Emil definitely always does.
Was so happy you said your praise for Nagash, I played undead back in the 90's and he was always one I wanted and never got. Nostalgia be damned I love him!!
the screamer killer was an amazing model for the time, certainly compared to those metal warrior models. but you missed the ugliest tyranid model, the first metal tyrant guard, woof. The Genestealer patriarch was awesome as well, he was bloated with power which is why he looked like that. While i agree with you on Arielle, you have to remember that most of the stuff from the 80s was actually amazing compared to what else was out there. i remember being enthralled by those models becuase compared to the basic D&D minis they were masters. Very glad you added Nagash, that one is the worst.
A few year back, I had a friend starting in painting that wanted to paint gandalf. He didn't knew that you have to thin your paints, so the result was something we called Gandalf the (way too) Grey
When the year was in 2001 i was 12 collecting Tyranids through 3-4 gen.
Now in 2020 im 27 seeing that ancient uselesss Biovore (Yes no one used Biovores they were shit) and Old Eye and Red Terror just makes me cry interally for mercy for them.
GW please it's literally been over 20 years for these.
Not agreeing on the screamer killer, love it :) would have loved to see a remodel on that particular strain though
People must understand that those miniatures were sculpted by hand, not by 3D softwares. This is why they were imprecise, "weid", and had a bunch of proportions errors. But they were lovely anyway. Today, the miniatures are created with the use of 3D modeling softwares, this is why they look so precise. Imagine, at that time, they had to manually sculpt each spacemarine pose, all from scratch. Now, instead, they can create the model, rig it, and the put the guy in the desired pose. You will not see errors and the proportions are perfectly the same.
and still the greeks and romans built perfectly beautiful statues out of freaking marble. sure bigger scale but the lines are smooth and perfect. its just that the games workshop sculpters werent really masters of their craft. but they still created something lovable :) which is warhammer
Although you could compare it to something like Mierce Miniatures, where some are sculpted with 3D but a great many are still done using the old-fashioned methods.
I'm with you Emil! Nagash was one of my first miniatures that I bought with my allowance when I was 13 y.o. and I can't separate myself from the nostalgia to see that sculpt objectively.
Hah! I like that old Nagash, I want to pick one up and put it on a nice big round base for my Age of Sigmar games :p
Me too 😬😂
Maybe I should do it :) I know alot of player will go, what the hell is that?!? Only thing is that the base would have to be very scenic seeing how huge 130mm would be according to the actual model. But your idea have at least got me thinking here :)
The old Nagash mini was straight fire tho, far better than the new one
I actually own some of the Female Space Marines (in lead) buried in my storage unit somewhere...
As a Tyranid player I'd love to have some of those old Screamer Killer Carnifexes! Look at them, they just wanna HUG YOU! 🤗
The RT Female "Marines" are 1980s, and predated the entire shift to pewter in the 90s.
@@GypsyComet yeah a friend from Chicago and I got some from GW mail order back when you could still get old sculpts. I have a few of both poses.
I had that cheerleader ork when I was a kid. Ordered some mini's from GW but they were out of stock. They sent a credit note and a bag full of random minis, including that cheerleader ork. I had that dreadnought too. He was ace back in the day, although when the next generation of dreadnoughts came out, he got binned. The only model I still have from my old collection is a Catachan jungle fighter from the early 90s.
2nd ed carnifex is one of my fav of all time, taste is subjective
Of course 😊😊
The Genestealer Patriarch is beatiful. Love it :D
Haha, yeah I've seen the old dreadnaughts recently, cause there was a recommended video from someone comparing minis through the ages.
The Nurgle Daemon Prince is absolutely great. It’s supposed to be a bloated corpse of a Daemon. I personally love it.
I used to love that Nagash as a kid 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Dark elf dragon is actually REALLY good if you paint it well, I painted mine like the box art and it came out GREAT, I wish it was bigger (its too skinny) but I think the sculpt is still pretty modern but I'd like an updated version!
in my view, the "sexy" slaves are the ugliest minis GW ever did
It's amazing how long they were for sale on the GW website.
Kaptinark I Know, right?
Those were _grotesque!_
New tho this channel, love the content !
Started back with my 40k army and painting again ✌🏻
Cheers from belgium
They SURE need to update these berserker...
Don't think they will since Forge World update kit is still available. Also World Eaters is a faction that is so easy to convert with Age of Sigmar models, that i don't know if GW would make much money from a new berserker kit.
Selling the current kit is kind of a scam for new players. Current berserkers require conversion to look as good as current Chaos SM kit.
I think the new Lumineth realm models look amazing personally, I'm going to try an alternate color scheme but I love the idea of not the traditional elves. Hammer elves? lets go
6:56 Hey, at least the Chaos dreadnought is pretty g... wait...
*is that a pp?*
Sometimes your imagination fills in the blanks, it’s not until years later when you look with fresh eyes that you can see all the flaws
I actually highly prefer the old slaanesh fiends over the new ones they just looks perfect for what they are the new ones are fine but l am still upset they replaced it
Weird, I'm the other way around... I love new one... though I do think the Diaz Daemonettes and Seekers were much better than the new sculpts.
Elrond and Gil-Galad were probably my favourite models in my High Elf army - I couldn't believe the likeness they managed to get of Hugo Weaving, I remember sitting at a friend's house, marvelling at it on the Games Workshop website back in like 2002 or something. And Gil-Galad is just an absolute bad-ass, look at him!
Magnus the Red for epic was an interesting model but damn I love it
Hahahhaha what is that 😂😂😂😂😂
@@SquidmarMiniatures www.google.com/search?q=magnus+the+red+epic+model&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS734US734&sxsrf=ALeKk01x1od6BoPZzP28OU1IQxm8BZSjaw:1587576374422&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjzoefuxvzoAhURLs0KHRoDCZoQ_AUoAXoECA0QAw&biw=1653&bih=771&dpr=1.13#imgrc=YzlHgRpNB_o4DM
He was really good in the game, so i never cared what he looked like, better than some of the models from that game :)
@@harrymann6479 I liked the mortarion figure, that was cool
Seducers and that Sister Of Battle muppet make me feel deeply uncomfortable.
Slaneesh? No, Nurgle approves. I despair
The old nagash is badass! I love that model.
1. termagaunts (who are literally xenomorphs with guns, yes very creative gw)
2. basicly any ork or nurgle vehicle (although they are supposed to look ugly in their defense)
3. and yes that screaming fanatic lady lol
You forgot to mention the egg shaped terminators from rogue trader, I mean, they remind me more of Humpty Dumpty than anything else.
@Epic the overly rounded shape of the model also adds a lot to it's goofiness, I mean, that suit of power armor looks more suited to one of the M&M's mascots than a human being.
Would love to see a video of your best effort in painting some of these, in particular the old ones!
Best cosplay ever! That cracked me up!
Haha tack Pontus 😂
It's amazing how much better miniature sculptors have gotten in just the last few years. The skill cap is significantly higher that it was back in the day, even leaving all the digital sculpts aside.
I like the Red Terror :( Nids from the early 2000's are my nostalgia
Original Ariel is terrifying. But I think I find her endearing because she reminds me of my aunt.
No way, the 2nd Ed Tyranids and Screamer Killer models are awesome!
Agreed, though 3rd Ed metal Tyranids were total pieces of garbage
The Angry Ant Warriors and the Grinners were both terrible in their own ways.
Love the Screamer Killer! You crazy, Squidmar!
i´d take old wonky faced 80s/90s minis over those modern 3d sculpted abominations any day.
hey squidy, i do it with your lamp, its awesome now to paint with this new light, i start warhammer by the 2nd edition. You are right , there was a lot of ugly metal miniatures. but as a young player i was pround on every on. i love your channel and i learned a lot . thank you so much . greeding from austria
12:46 the old sisters of battle mini looks like she's still upset hillary lost the election.
I still have several of the older ones still in thier boxes, unbuilt. Durthu, Nagash, Ork cheerleaders, and a few of the original Great Unclean Ones too. And you forgot the Groat miniature.
I play against a dude very regularly who plays Cities of Sigmar with a witch on Black Dragon . Everytime we play against each other, I buff my King on Terrogheist like hell, and instantly deletes the Black Dragon just so the table can look somewhat decent without that ugly trash on the table.
Looool
So much hate.. I love it
I'm not even kidding. Last game before Corona, his dragon took triple 6 on the gaping maw w/ gruesome bite (buffed by the Archregent with +3 attacks), 18 Mortal wonds in a single blow.
3:39, the Tyranid Screamer Killer/Carnifex still is one of my favourite GW models, as it got me a Silver Demon in 1994 :D! Took me 20 days to blend the claws!
It's nice "weather" out, has snow on the ground and looks like a nice winter day. *looks out my window* oh look its 81F and raining outside. . . freaking squidmar
So forgive me if this seems like a weird'-ass question, but where did you get that case with the eagle painted green, right @1:40 or so? Did you paint it that way yourself, or did you get the case in that condition?
I painted it when I was 13 or so 😉
@@SquidmarMiniatures I ask because I did the exact same thing, with im pretty sure those EXACT colors. I had two, one green and one with blue. I sold all of my figures probably a decade ago, so I genuinely thought that I just saw my old case on a video.
I love that old Nagash - in fact I love all those old mini's - except the dialogus, she was truly awful even when she came out (I bought it)
I love them too, but I'm also somewhat of a realist
@@SquidmarMiniatures pah who cares as long as it's fun to paint
@@tonyirvingaudio you got nostalgia glasses in bud. They are ugly AF
That Nagash model is still so very cool.
I did paint every single undead miniature, but did not dare to touch Nagash with a brush as I feared to ruin him. I was so proud when I got him
Upvoted for the Khorne Berzerker mention! Let's get those minis updated!
Yeah, the answer this is to just grab any 20 non Blood Bowl Gary Morley miniatures.
Lol, I used to have that Tyranid Carnifex in the thumbnail. I took some rubber cement, made it drip from its mouth, then used a glaze sealant to harden it, giving it the impression of it drooling. I also crafted some skulls and guts out of clay to put on the base, painted them appropriately.
Hey Squidmar! I have a question for you, where did you get that sweet Battle for Skull Pass Dwarf Art poster in your background (9:25 timestamp for reference)? I want one, it looks wicked! I recently got my hands on a complete, still on sprue Battle for Skull Pass box :)
Hey man, I got it from a friend who used to run a gaming store
i have a couple of those old ork dreds and they're pretty hilarious and charming in a way. The only problem i have with old orks is their equipment looks so different to their more modern stuff so fielding a mixed army of old and new models looks really odd with orks wielding bolt pistols and dreds with plasma guns and heavy bolters (because that's actually what they used back then, just straight up stolen imperial tech) next to their more unique hodgepodge stuff from recent times.
The Screamer Killer Fex is what got me into wargaming. Saw it in a store and was blown away by how awesome it looked. Funny thing is I also purchased original Nagash just a couple of days ago, but without a head. Will probably use Saurons head for him so he's covered in metal and matches the Grave Guard from vampire counts. The rest of that sculpt is very solid, the face is a bit...meh...
Overall I agree with most things. But of course also an exception for Epidemius and Nurgle Daemon Prince, I still think those look awesome.
Squats in exoarmor were pretty awesome!
Minis that I think are cool or actually nice from the video:
-The old ork dread - looks goofy but still cool. Perfect orky mecha thing.
-The nurgle lord - looks funny and weird, but also gross. Works for me.
-Dark Elf Dragon -. nothing wrong with that? Could be bigger. Don't get the face issue...
I would give a honourable mention to the first generation of Chaos Space Marine Oblitterators. Those were not on the market for very long, and that's a good thing!