@@peterspear2247 the title was "why 6 string basses suck, (and how to fix it)". I was mostly just trying to make a joke not really actually scrutinize scott for saying that lmao
Personally I find five strings to be the perfect balance for me. My role as a bass player really is just to keep our low end strong and the rhythm steady. I don’t need a high C because it’ll almost never get used but that low b helps so much in changing keys or playing riffs higher up on the neck. This is the beautiful thing about music though, because every bassist (every musician) will approach their instrument differently and fill their role in a unique way.
Former modulus Q6 owner... Now current Q5 owner. Totally agree for 90% of the cases. For the really technical stuff or stuff that wanted to be way up high, the 6 was nice to have.
@@Violetcas97 hahaha thanks for the report back. "I don't need a high C..." Year later, she's rockin' a sixer :) Truth be told, I might be thinking about an ibanez 1506MS myself...
Six string bass was also a revelation for me - but I only have about 1/1000 of the talent and knowledge of Oteil. This is refreshing to see instead of the usual snide "Jaco only needed 4 strings" comments.
Well, Jaco does only need four strings. Jaco, Pastorius, that is, not you, not me, not most people. Whatever gets one over the curve is what they need.
Jaco wasn’t the best. If he was alive you wouldn’t even be speaking about him like you do. Maybe you should talk more about him in mental illness conversations instead of this. No disrespect but y’all are fucked up
When I entered music school my bass teacher guilted me into selling my ken smith 6 string bass because he said I needed to concentrate on 4 string upright. I have regretted that for 20 years. I even learned to double on guitar. Man I wish I had oteal as a teacher.
Who the heck gave that man the allowance to even teach in the first place?! You are supposed to HELP the student IMPROVE, not limit him by telling him to sell a bass just because it has "too many" strings...
Honestly there's this mentality among some bassists that you have to start on a 4-string and then "graduate" or somehow "earn" the right to play an extended-range bass, and it's such bullshit. I've been playing bass for a year, and I started on 6-string because that's what I wanted to play. I couldn't be happier with that decision.
@@jellosapiens7261 i disagree ive been playing for months and im getting the hang of it, but there is so much to learn on a 4 before i think i deserve a 6 string. But that teacher should have put foam on the other 2 strings not tell him to sell it
Yep, I bought my first bass for my recordings 2 days ago after years of guitar playing. One of the best and most beautiful things I've ever bought in my entire life. I've been playing it like crazy.
i agree. i find there's so much you can learn about music from just finding another instrument and figuring out how it works. once you go back to your instrument of choice, you can see it with a different frame of mind. i'll always be a bassist first & foremost, but i'm so glad i learned the guitar as well
Ideitbawx Productions Very true, I played the violin for 10 years, from 8 years old to about 17/18, and played the cello for 2 years. Never really thought about playing the guitar nor bass til I moved 1000 miles from home with no family and no friends, and I must say, I bought a four string bass and was kinda weirded out by the tuning, I ended up buying a 5 string bass and tuning it so that it felt comfortable. The most appalling experience though was picking up a mandolin and realizing its in violin tuning... immediately I picked up my old school books and started playing and it was awesome 😭😂
I took a crack at a 5-string and although it's useful for playing along with detuned stuff if you're too lazy to detune, I mainly used the low B as a thumb rest :P Don't get me wrong... a lot of players can really throw down on one, but I'm not one.
I've been playing a six string for a while now. Just such a versatile tool. This is a great video. I'm sitting here with my bass, getting a free lesson on chords. Great stuff.
Six string basses are nice,had one but really had no need for it. I like four strings,and some awesome players kill on a four and do just as much stuff on that.
Actually the full title was 3 Reasons why 6 STRING BASSES SUCK (and how to fix it) th-cam.com/video/9X12P1g7S0I/w-d-xo.html and if you watch it from the beginning till the end you will see what Scott meant (and imho does not contradict but anticipates what this video says) ;-)
Sounds like why I recommend playing guitar along with bass. Guitars are such good chordal instruments that it allows you to visualize your chords so clearly in so many voicings and inversions. Then you apply those chords and learn how to arp those shapes or come up with licks around those notes, which makes coming up with pertinent basslines so much more intuitive.
You can easily play chords on a 4 string. I voiced all my standards I learned in college and university on a 4. You can even voice like a guitar player by omitting some notes like the roots, concentrating on “colour” notes such as 3rd, 7th and extensions (9th, 11th, 13th). IMO, I’m just a lowly worm compared to these monsters but, saying you need a 6er is not really really accurate IMO. Learning basic harmony is. But I 100% agree that you can play more complex multiple note chords on a 6er
This is exactly what I was thinking. The only other thing I can say is that for me personally I learn more things when I get bored and I decide I'm ready to branch out. I've just never been there yet with a 6 String Bass. It's uncomfortable for me physically and I still don't feel like I "Need" to get one and learn on it because I can roll with a 4 or a 5 comfortably. I also dabble in guitar and I do most of my chord figuring out with that 1st and then go to my Bass if chords are what I'm after and looking for.
Yeah, people can get by with only one arm, or only one leg and one arm, or only arms, but I don't recommend chopping off any limbs on that basis. You're invoking the scarcity fallacy to justify your position. In today's world, it's becoming less practical to play bass with less than 6 strings. It's becoming the new standard, which is why you can buy them so cheap now. It's impractical to try to make do with a bass that has less strings than that, and it puts an undue limitation on creativity. If you're going to at some point need to play something composed for 6-string bass, why bother to own and play anything with less strings? I can see your argument only holding true if all you're ever going to play is jazz standards or work in some shitty cover band that only plays classic rock and country. But for actual artists and modern session players who do a variety of work, your argument makes zero sense. The first bass guitar was the 6-string guitarron. The traditional standard for guitar has always been 6 strings; the 4-string electric bass was a departure from that standard in emulation of a standup bass, not a standard. So if anything, the current move towards standardization of 6-string bass is a cultural correction. My music sucked balls until I switched to a 6-string. There's so much I can do that I couldn't do before when I played 4 and 5-string basses.
Maybe it’s because i switched over to a 6 string but I won’t be picking up the 4 anymore because tonality in chords is superior on the 6, more options for tapping / fingerings, less jumping of the hand all over the neck/more consistent playing, I can go on, now these are all the benefits I’m not saying you can’t play chords or tap on a 4 string, but when a 6 string exists, after you tried it... it’s pretty hard to go back 🤷♂️
Please can you get hold of Thundercat one of these days? I would LOVE a breakdown of his process, both playing-wise and just creatively in terms of writing.
I went with an Ibanez BTB746. After some searching it seems it can’t be beat in its price range. Sounds great, after a pro setup it SHREDS. (It’s heavy as balls though)
Love the Shout out for Six string bass ! Its really a beautiful instrument with a lot of possibilities and a lot to offer in a musical experience as a whole beyond only the bass line.
Going from 4 to 5 was the bigger challenge for me; going to 6 just meant I had to relax my hands more and pay attention to the scales up the fretboard.
I'm finding the transition from my old 4 string to my 5 string is difficult, but I'm in the same boat as you where when I try a 6 string at the music store I feel so much more relaxed. It feels like I have so much more expressive freedom, while I find the low B to just sound flubby with limited applications.
Isn't Oteil a beautiful person... down to earth, like I could have a cup of tea with him, he's happy to be here, a great communicator, humble, light hearted, interested, intelligent approachable and then he's a pure monster... a monster on Mt. Fuji! Not only is his bass playing a work of art, he is a work of art! Now I have to get all his recordings. Gratitude!
Just started on a four, discovering I need a five for some current stuff and based on this interview can definitely see how a six can open new avenues...which is what makes playing so mind blowing in the first place. A cheap six will come after the five for me.
I met Otiel in 1991 at a roadside pool hall called Breaker's Billiards in Hope Mills, North Carolina. He was with ARU then (Jimmy Herring, Jeff Sipe, Bruce Hampton, Matt Mundy). It was a night that changed me forever. It was a performance I'll never forget- pool tables pushed off to the sides of the room, the band set up on the floor between them. I'd never seen a 6 string bass, and I'd never heard of the Aquarium Rescue Unit.. But lo! It was THIS VERY BASS! I
He's sure come a long long way!! I remember ARU from back in the day when they used to play The Wetlands here in NY. Later... seeing him with The Allman brothers was so incredible. As well as TTB . And on to Dead and Co. Going from pool halls to stadiums...it couldn't have happened to a nicer, more humble and kind person than Oteil. He's such a monster player and it's so cool seeing him play at a stadium one night..then seeing him sit in with band's at small clubs along with his own bands like Oteil and friends. I've seen him well over 50 times throughout the years and could never get tired of seeing and hearing him. He really steals the show imho with any band he plays with. He's that ridiculously great!!
@@tracywilkinson1820 yeah, that club was on Countryclub dr in NE F'ville. Pretty popular for a few years. I saw several bands there, and gigged a few shows, when they showcased local acts. I lived in F'ville for 30+ years. If you were playing with a band during your time there, we may know some of the same people. 👍🏻
i had a 6-string bass for a long time that i never played, because to me the extra highs never justified the wider neck and added weight. i kinda just felt like "if i wanna play a solo, i'll grab a bass tuned up higher." so i hated my 6-string for a long time and always grabbed a more comfortable 5-string when i needed one. i eventually just decided to re-think the 6, so i bumped everything down and instead of a 5 string with a useless high, i got a 5 string with a low F# in the low end. now i love it. it goes where the other basses cant and i find myself playing it like a 5 and then when i wanna go super low i have that option to just blow away the listener with those earthquake notes. i usually play in the key of B, ride the b-string and ignore the F# until needed. just my style, not saying anyone needs to do it, but it's great. you do need a longer scale than 34 if you wanna go G or lower. mine is a 36.5 to 35 fretless so that works.
I got to bass via the guitar so thinking chordal was my first approach. Carol king teaches this approach too it really gets one into the guts of a tune.
@@slapnpop826 wich one? I have an Ibanez BTB676 and a Yamaha TRB6II. Do you start to play chords, since? Playing chords is not easy in the beginning. But if you go step by step you'll make it.
I've seen Tedeschi Trucks Band in Winnipeg, Moorhead, and Ottawa. Although I did miss Oteil's criminally short stint in the band, I did get to see Tim Lefebvre each time.
I saw him with TTB in 2013. I’ve seen lots of the big name bass wiz folks in person, but I’ve never been more blown away than I was by OB. Superior instincts. Solid groove. Incredible chops. Seems to always choose the right notes. And a super nice guy to boot.
I tried playing a 6-string bass TWICE, and it just wasn't for me both times. While I understood its tonal advantages, it did feel like I was playing a a farm fence and there really wasn't anything that I couldn't play with a 4-string anyway.
Your videos makes me play a lot more my Bass, Improve my english (I'm Brazilian) and also was an inspiration to return to play bass after a 3 years with no bass or music in my life. Thanks for all your video over the 3 years since I returned to amazing life of Bass
That's actually a very cool reason to own a six string. I've been contemplating selling my bass to get into guitar so I can expand my understanding to chords and chord voicings.
I'm a guitar player and I "noodle around" with my bass. But after listening to Victor Wooten, John Patitucci, and other dudes... I knew I wanted to step up my bass game.
I'd divert from the message of this video and suggest that everyone should try a piccolo bass. You can practice chords at the same spacing as on a standard bass, but you learn to appreciate that higher registers are much more musical and melodic than bass frequencies, which in turn teaches you what notes to play and what to not play, as well as how to compose for different instruments.
Hi Scott, Bring some Brazilian bass players. There are a bunch of amazing players over here. Junior Braguinha, Ricardinho Paraíso, Michael Pipoquinha and so many others.
I am someone who has zero interest in playing a 6 string bass. I stopped at 5 string since it works in the projects I maintain however I completely get where Otiel is coming from. Yes, a cheap 6 string can really help your chordal chops.
I was literally just thinking about that Studio Jams session with Oteil yesterday.. now I see Scott’s made a new video using that very clip.. very trippy!
I only play 4 strings EADG, and 4 strings ADGC for some arrangements and solos, and have an unused 5 strings in BEADG (just like Oteil's, a Modulus Quantum) for the extreme rare needs when a Drop D is not enough on a 4.
you can play plenty of chords on four strings. In fact tenor guitar players are usually much more adept and aware of what they are doing chord wise compared to regular guitarists. This is because six string guitar players typically just learn basic chord shapes with little or no thought of what notes and intervals makes up that chord. Whilst 4 string tenor players typically know every note they are playing at all times and why.
i nowadays play a six string bass in my band not to play chords. i enjoy the freedom to be able to transform a song in a different key if needed. sometimes the singer want to try some different. the additional low notes become very handy too. often the singer invites me to play a short bass solo inbetween guitar or harp parts. i like 6 strings so much that i seldom play my 4 and 5 string anymore. and not to forget, the big neck makes hughe tone. cheers from germany.
I have a huge affinity for players on 6 string. But one thing I thought was weird was him singing his solo. It makes sense he needs to hear his parts but singing them into a mic I think is weird. But the bass chords are amazing
Nice video! I played a graphite neck in the 80's and found it so cold and unpleasant (temp wise) that I quit using it. It did sound great and for the first time i played a fender Jazz that had no dead spots in the neck. Even the "C" on the "G" string rang clear!
Man that modulus is almost exactly what my dad had before I was born, his was a 5 and little darker blue, he had so much gear,custom warwicks! 8x10 cabs,etc and sadly everything got destroyed in a flood, and what did not had to be sold
I’ve been playing 7 string basses for over 24 years now. I have more fun and much more creativity with my 7s Picking up a new fretless 6 for a recording session coming up,, really looking forward to fretless again
As someone who has played a 4 string for around 12 years, I can barely wrap my head around playing a 5 string. I'm positive a 6 string would make me give on playing all together.
If some bass players want to play six so they can solo in high register that's fine. But I've played bass for 40 years - I can play chords relevant to what the guitarist/keyboardist would play by knowing the arpeggios/chord tones and the different modes.
I enjoyed my LTD D-6 bass last year!! Never thought of that idea before but I'll try it!! The next time or if I invest in a different 6 bass it'll be passive.
6's are GREAT. If you really want to feel the wall of sound capable with a long scale instrument ,I say try a Chapman "NS" Stick. This is what I play, and the wall of sound that comes from it is Godly.
I love what Oteil played in 1997 Bass Day, his interpretation of "Get the funk out of ma face". I compiled a video of some Six String Bass Players and Oteil is one of my favorites.
Absolutely true! I love this video. As a bass player of twenty years I just recently started learning blues guitar as well and I've taken all of the blues guitar knowledge I've learned so far and the scales and chords have made my bass playing skyrocket.
Just saw Oteil in LA. 12/27/2019 w John Mayer and some other excellent back up players. Billy Kreutzman on drums and Jerry Garcias' back up guitarist. Great night. You should also mention how good Oteil can sing...!!! *(BTW... just bought an acoustic 5 string fretless bass. Never played before.)
I dropped my 6 string because I thought my hands were too small and I had a bit of a problem with patience but now I'd try it again I do have a 5er strung E-G
While I appreciate good musicianship I've grown tired of musicians who just riff out. A million notes with zero meaning behind them. Give a bassist who can groove the shit out of a song, move when the songs calls for it and hit the best notes when it matters... Same for guitarists...
Chords are the bread and butter of multi-string basses. Not to mention the extended range in the various positions, which minimize shifting, thus facilitating memorization and technique.
The shifting thing is a benefit for 5, but 6 I don’t see it. Low range has a finite stopping point which is why it helps with shifting. Unless you spent a lot of time in the high range of the bass it wouldn’t help too much. It’s all genre dependent though
Scott before: "why 6 string basses SUCK!"
Scott now: "everyone should get one!!!"
did you only read the title of that first one?
@@peterspear2247 the title was "why 6 string basses suck, (and how to fix it)". I was mostly just trying to make a joke not really actually scrutinize scott for saying that lmao
@@the_bassiah lol provocative click bait at its finest for us bass heads lol
@@the_bassiah lol
Just watched that before this 1
Dude doesn't age. I have a issue of Bass Player from 1998 advertising Modulus basses and he looks younger now than he did then.
Evan J the secret is money
The secret is six strings, the more strings the happier you will be with things!
@@philipm3173 Jazz musicians aren't in it for the money, and for good reason lol.
Black don't crack
2019: why all bass players should play a 6 string bass
2020: why all bass players should play a 7 string bass
2021: why all bass players should play a 8 string bass
2022: why all bass players should play a 9 string bass.
2351,5 : why all bass players should play a 338,5 string bass
More strings does make it easier to read band charts
@@heltonadams5787 Finally...
Scott needs to talk to ThunderCat IMMEDIATELY
YES
Lol dude played some chords on a six string lol chill
Done!
Yo I found this video because I was looking for someone who played Thundercat's bass.
@@jacobregan5848my thoughts exactly
Personally I find five strings to be the perfect balance for me. My role as a bass player really is just to keep our low end strong and the rhythm steady. I don’t need a high C because it’ll almost never get used but that low b helps so much in changing keys or playing riffs higher up on the neck. This is the beautiful thing about music though, because every bassist (every musician) will approach their instrument differently and fill their role in a unique way.
I endorse this, I feel the same.
Former modulus Q6 owner... Now current Q5 owner.
Totally agree for 90% of the cases. For the really technical stuff or stuff that wanted to be way up high, the 6 was nice to have.
@@peadookie a year + later and I now own a 2000$ six string lol, I still love my five but the six is very nice to have
@@Violetcas97 hahaha thanks for the report back.
"I don't need a high C..."
Year later, she's rockin' a sixer :)
Truth be told, I might be thinking about an ibanez 1506MS myself...
@@peadookie I can swear by Ibanez, my six is a BTB846SC in Deep Twilight and it is by far the best instrument I’ve ever owned.
Why you should play a 6 string:
to tune it down to low F# and make the earth tremble, Nolly style
Just get a 7 String bud.
J.R. Productions no
Rivers of nihil time
just get a four string and tune it down...
Get a contrabass
what a boss. The dude's so chill but so masterful. That was incredible
I've been playing the 6 string fretless acoustic bass. I never realized just how useful frets are until I tried to learn chords on a bass.
Amen! Even double-stops and basic power chords can be tricky once the frets are gone.
@@Chattosaurus It gets better with practice though, especially if your bass has good action.
I totally agree. I've been playing 6 string bass for over 10 years. It's expands my ability to contribute to a song, or a band.
Oteil is the man. His six string work is great but his 4 string work with Allman Bros and TTB is my fav stylistically. Such a talent.
ALL bass players should practise playing 1 string bass.
Mad Dog has a 3 string...
@Carlos Davis th-cam.com/video/LsUBbwMM2Q4/w-d-xo.html
2 - is max!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
that is actually kinda true my bass player cant even play 4 string bass
Six string bass was also a revelation for me - but I only have about 1/1000 of the talent and knowledge of Oteil. This is refreshing to see instead of the usual snide "Jaco only needed 4 strings" comments.
Well, Jaco does only need four strings. Jaco, Pastorius, that is, not you, not me, not most people. Whatever gets one over the curve is what they need.
Jaco wasn’t the best. If he was alive you wouldn’t even be speaking about him like you do. Maybe you should talk more about him in mental illness conversations instead of this. No disrespect but y’all are fucked up
When I entered music school my bass teacher guilted me into selling my ken smith 6 string bass because he said I needed to concentrate on 4 string upright. I have regretted that for 20 years. I even learned to double on guitar. Man I wish I had oteal as a teacher.
Who the heck gave that man the allowance to even teach in the first place?! You are supposed to HELP the student IMPROVE, not limit him by telling him to sell a bass just because it has "too many" strings...
Lifehack for your teacher: you just can replace 2 strings without selling 6-string bass...
Honestly there's this mentality among some bassists that you have to start on a 4-string and then "graduate" or somehow "earn" the right to play an extended-range bass, and it's such bullshit. I've been playing bass for a year, and I started on 6-string because that's what I wanted to play. I couldn't be happier with that decision.
@@j.schultheiofficial2638 I agree with you.
@@jellosapiens7261 i disagree ive been playing for months and im getting the hang of it, but there is so much to learn on a 4 before i think i deserve a 6 string. But that teacher should have put foam on the other 2 strings not tell him to sell it
His solo is so synced with his vocals that it sounds like a talk box
So when I buy a 6 string, I'll be able to sing Bach cello concertos like I have a Bluetooth speaker down my throat.
I could listen to that conversation all day. I love the passion!
All guitarists should play a 4 string bass. All bassists should play a 6 string guitar. There, I said it.
Yep, I bought my first bass for my recordings 2 days ago after years of guitar playing. One of the best and most beautiful things I've ever bought in my entire life. I've been playing it like crazy.
i agree. i find there's so much you can learn about music from just finding another instrument and figuring out how it works. once you go back to your instrument of choice, you can see it with a different frame of mind. i'll always be a bassist first & foremost, but i'm so glad i learned the guitar as well
Ideitbawx Productions Very true, I played the violin for 10 years, from 8 years old to about 17/18, and played the cello for 2 years. Never really thought about playing the guitar nor bass til I moved 1000 miles from home with no family and no friends, and I must say, I bought a four string bass and was kinda weirded out by the tuning, I ended up buying a 5 string bass and tuning it so that it felt comfortable. The most appalling experience though was picking up a mandolin and realizing its in violin tuning... immediately I picked up my old school books and started playing and it was awesome 😭😂
Yes. I’m on team 5 string bass but yes. Play guitar.
I took a crack at a 5-string and although it's useful for playing along with detuned stuff if you're too lazy to detune, I mainly used the low B as a thumb rest :P Don't get me wrong... a lot of players can really throw down on one, but I'm not one.
I've been playing a six string for a while now. Just such a versatile tool. This is a great video. I'm sitting here with my bass, getting a free lesson on chords. Great stuff.
Scott Devine
2017: 3 Reasons why 6 string basses suck
2019: why ALL bass players should play a 6 string bass
Six string basses are nice,had one but really had no need for it. I like four strings,and some awesome players kill on a four and do just as much stuff on that.
It is possible to change your opinion you know
Actually the full title was 3 Reasons why 6 STRING BASSES SUCK (and how to fix it) th-cam.com/video/9X12P1g7S0I/w-d-xo.html and if you watch it from the beginning till the end you will see what Scott meant (and imho does not contradict but anticipates what this video says) ;-)
It’s just marketing lol
Robert Bentley I need one to play death metal
Been playing bass for 8 years and studied music theory for 5, got my first 6 string guitar recently and it changed my understanding a lot
Thanks Scott, nice! Chords and chords melody are amazing tools for we, bassman!
Top!👌🏾
Sounds like why I recommend playing guitar along with bass. Guitars are such good chordal instruments that it allows you to visualize your chords so clearly in so many voicings and inversions.
Then you apply those chords and learn how to arp those shapes or come up with licks around those notes, which makes coming up with pertinent basslines so much more intuitive.
When he played that Thundercat part I had to pause like and rewind to head it again with the vocalisation
You can easily play chords on a 4 string. I voiced all my standards I learned in college and university on a 4. You can even voice like a guitar player by omitting some notes like the roots, concentrating on “colour” notes such as 3rd, 7th and extensions (9th, 11th, 13th).
IMO, I’m just a lowly worm compared to these monsters but, saying you need a 6er is not really really accurate IMO. Learning basic harmony is.
But I 100% agree that you can play more complex multiple note chords on a 6er
This is exactly what I was thinking. The only other thing I can say is that for me personally I learn more things when I get bored and I decide I'm ready to branch out. I've just never been there yet with a 6 String Bass. It's uncomfortable for me physically and I still don't feel like I "Need" to get one and learn on it because I can roll with a 4 or a 5 comfortably. I also dabble in guitar and I do most of my chord figuring out with that 1st and then go to my Bass if chords are what I'm after and looking for.
Yeah, people can get by with only one arm, or only one leg and one arm, or only arms, but I don't recommend chopping off any limbs on that basis. You're invoking the scarcity fallacy to justify your position.
In today's world, it's becoming less practical to play bass with less than 6 strings. It's becoming the new standard, which is why you can buy them so cheap now. It's impractical to try to make do with a bass that has less strings than that, and it puts an undue limitation on creativity. If you're going to at some point need to play something composed for 6-string bass, why bother to own and play anything with less strings? I can see your argument only holding true if all you're ever going to play is jazz standards or work in some shitty cover band that only plays classic rock and country. But for actual artists and modern session players who do a variety of work, your argument makes zero sense.
The first bass guitar was the 6-string guitarron. The traditional standard for guitar has always been 6 strings; the 4-string electric bass was a departure from that standard in emulation of a standup bass, not a standard. So if anything, the current move towards standardization of 6-string bass is a cultural correction.
My music sucked balls until I switched to a 6-string. There's so much I can do that I couldn't do before when I played 4 and 5-string basses.
Yea this is what Scott means when he says you can approximate it
Maybe it’s because i switched over to a 6 string but I won’t be picking up the 4 anymore because tonality in chords is superior on the 6, more options for tapping / fingerings, less jumping of the hand all over the neck/more consistent playing, I can go on, now these are all the benefits I’m not saying you can’t play chords or tap on a 4 string, but when a 6 string exists, after you tried it... it’s pretty hard to go back 🤷♂️
@@antonvoltchok7794 I agree with you.
Please can you get hold of Thundercat one of these days? I would LOVE a breakdown of his process, both playing-wise and just creatively in terms of writing.
I went with an Ibanez BTB746. After some searching it seems it can’t be beat in its price range. Sounds great, after a pro setup it SHREDS. (It’s heavy as balls though)
Wolfman Curtis Agree, I have the BTB1826. Super heave, but plays better than a $10,000 Fodera
@@dr.michaelbennett8597 I agree with you.
I have an Ibanez BTB676 and I love it so much.
@@dr.michaelbennett8597 "Fodera" means "I would fuck" in my first language. Actually lol'ed.
@@SoneNando I'm curious what language? 😅
@@supersandwich8967 portuguese. It's actually "foderia" but it's close enough.
Love the Shout out for Six string bass !
Its really a beautiful instrument with a lot of possibilities and a lot to offer in a musical experience as a whole beyond only the bass line.
Going from 4 to 5 was the bigger challenge for me; going to 6 just meant I had to relax my hands more and pay attention to the scales up the fretboard.
I'm finding the transition from my old 4 string to my 5 string is difficult, but I'm in the same boat as you where when I try a 6 string at the music store I feel so much more relaxed. It feels like I have so much more expressive freedom, while I find the low B to just sound flubby with limited applications.
Wow. Scott with portuguese subtitles! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Everybody should play 6 string bass if everybody were him.
Isn't Oteil a beautiful person... down to earth, like I could have a cup of tea with him, he's happy to be here, a great communicator, humble, light hearted, interested, intelligent approachable and then he's a pure monster... a monster on Mt. Fuji! Not only is his bass playing a work of art, he is a work of art! Now I have to get all his recordings. Gratitude!
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Just started on a four, discovering I need a five for some current stuff and based on this interview can definitely see how a six can open new avenues...which is what makes playing so mind blowing in the first place. A cheap six will come after the five for me.
It's the difference between a 66 key piano and a full concert grand. I'm in San Diego and have several on craigslist
does this guy know how to NOT be humble? holy crap, great skill and great personality
I met Otiel in 1991 at a roadside pool hall called Breaker's Billiards in Hope Mills, North Carolina. He was with ARU then (Jimmy Herring, Jeff Sipe, Bruce Hampton, Matt Mundy).
It was a night that changed me forever. It was a performance I'll never forget- pool tables pushed off to the sides of the room, the band set up on the floor between them. I'd never seen a 6 string bass, and I'd never heard of the Aquarium Rescue Unit..
But lo! It was THIS VERY BASS! I
He's sure come a long long way!! I remember ARU from back in the day when they used to play The Wetlands here in NY. Later... seeing him with The Allman brothers was so incredible. As well as TTB . And on to Dead and Co. Going from pool halls to stadiums...it couldn't have happened to a nicer, more humble and kind person than Oteil. He's such a monster player and it's so cool seeing him play at a stadium one night..then seeing him sit in with band's at small clubs along with his own bands like Oteil and friends. I've seen him well over 50 times throughout the years and could never get tired of seeing and hearing him. He really steals the show imho with any band he plays with. He's that ridiculously great!!
I was at that show!
Rik Dewar really!!?? I lived in Fay, my brother was friends with Jimmy who was from there.
@@tracywilkinson1820 yeah, that club was on Countryclub dr in NE F'ville. Pretty popular for a few years.
I saw several bands there, and gigged a few shows, when they showcased local acts. I lived in F'ville for 30+ years. If you were playing with a band during your time there, we may know some of the same people. 👍🏻
Jimmy Herring, as you may already know, grew up in Fayetteville, cutting his teeth with local bands. Guy's an actual prodigy.
Someone needs to do a video on John Patitucci's two new Yamaha semi hollow guitar prototypes, both of them look beautiful
i had a 6-string bass for a long time that i never played, because to me the extra highs never justified the wider neck and added weight. i kinda just felt like "if i wanna play a solo, i'll grab a bass tuned up higher." so i hated my 6-string for a long time and always grabbed a more comfortable 5-string when i needed one. i eventually just decided to re-think the 6, so i bumped everything down and instead of a 5 string with a useless high, i got a 5 string with a low F# in the low end. now i love it. it goes where the other basses cant and i find myself playing it like a 5 and then when i wanna go super low i have that option to just blow away the listener with those earthquake notes. i usually play in the key of B, ride the b-string and ignore the F# until needed. just my style, not saying anyone needs to do it, but it's great. you do need a longer scale than 34 if you wanna go G or lower. mine is a 36.5 to 35 fretless so that works.
What genre do you do? In mine the 5 is def helpful but I’ve never needed to go lower than the low C on the B string
So beautiful the chords and the melody alltogheter
I got to bass via the guitar so thinking chordal was my first approach. Carol king teaches this approach too it really gets one into the guts of a tune.
I switched to a 6 last December and it has been an absolute joy to play. I however had not made these chord connections. I am excited to work on this.
Did you buy one 6string bass?
@@Scarabee80 Yes
@@slapnpop826 wich one?
I have an Ibanez BTB676 and a Yamaha TRB6II.
Do you start to play chords, since?
Playing chords is not easy in the beginning. But if you go step by step you'll make it.
Oh man! insane harmony, oh eargasmic.
Oteil is literally the reason I play bass today...heard Col Bruce/ Aquarium Rescue Unit Workin On Building and his solo blew me away....
I've seen Tedeschi Trucks Band in Winnipeg, Moorhead, and Ottawa. Although I did miss Oteil's criminally short stint in the band, I did get to see Tim Lefebvre each time.
Oteil’s playing on the aquarium rescue unit live is flat out incredible.
Man, I was so psyched to see this title pop-up......Oteil is the reason I switched from guitar to Bass and why I mostly reach for the 6-string.
I saw him with TTB in 2013. I’ve seen lots of the big name bass wiz folks in person, but I’ve never been more blown away than I was by OB. Superior instincts. Solid groove. Incredible chops. Seems to always choose the right notes. And a super nice guy to boot.
The chords at 3:27 are gorgeous.
Soo nice!! 😍😍😍
I tried playing a 6-string bass TWICE, and it just wasn't for me both times. While I understood its tonal advantages, it did feel like I was playing a a farm fence and there really wasn't anything that I couldn't play with a 4-string anyway.
Oteil's work with the Aquarium Rescue Unit is astonishing.
Wow Vernon Reid was on that session with his Hamer!!! That quite a ways back!!! Still sick though!!!
That was a great video, would like to see the entire interview!
This unlocked something for me. Thank you!!!
You know that the person that ran over his 6 string was a 4 stringer
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Or a guitarist. Or even worse, a violinist.
@@dmitriy9985 no the worst would be a person who plays the triangle
@@minceraftfornite4334 It was a reference to one famous youtube bassist and his struggle against non-bass players.
(Davie504, if you're curious)
Your videos makes me play a lot more my Bass, Improve my english (I'm Brazilian) and also was an inspiration to return to play bass after a 3 years with no bass or music in my life. Thanks for all your video over the 3 years since I returned to amazing life of Bass
That's actually a very cool reason to own a six string. I've been contemplating selling my bass to get into guitar so I can expand my understanding to chords and chord voicings.
Oh wow! OTeil is such a great guy and player. Great interview.
That was a great advice, totally agreed thanks Scott.
I'm a guitar player and I "noodle around" with my bass. But after listening to Victor Wooten, John Patitucci, and other dudes... I knew I wanted to step up my bass game.
I'd divert from the message of this video and suggest that everyone should try a piccolo bass. You can practice chords at the same spacing as on a standard bass, but you learn to appreciate that higher registers are much more musical and melodic than bass frequencies, which in turn teaches you what notes to play and what to not play, as well as how to compose for different instruments.
Absolutely! Exploring different bass variations like piccolo bass can be an eye-opener dude! 🙌🏻🧡🔥
Every bassist, needs more basses. That's not an opinion, that's a fact.
This guy is so chill
My old man met Oteil, said he was super cool, insanely good. I like when a bassist can play melodically/harmonically. Those extensions are sweet
Hi Scott,
Bring some Brazilian bass players. There are a bunch of amazing players over here. Junior Braguinha, Ricardinho Paraíso, Michael Pipoquinha and so many others.
I am someone who has zero interest in playing a 6 string bass. I stopped at 5 string since it works in the projects I maintain however I completely get where Otiel is coming from. Yes, a cheap 6 string can really help your chordal chops.
I was literally just thinking about that Studio Jams session with Oteil yesterday.. now I see Scott’s made a new video using that very clip.. very trippy!
I only play 4 strings EADG, and 4 strings ADGC for some arrangements and solos, and have an unused 5 strings in BEADG (just like Oteil's, a Modulus Quantum) for the extreme rare needs when a Drop D is not enough on a 4.
Great insight! Oteil was a idol of mine, but lost him out of sight. Need to grab my 6string now...........
you can play plenty of chords on four strings. In fact tenor guitar players are usually much more adept and aware of what they are doing chord wise compared to regular guitarists.
This is because six string guitar players typically just learn basic chord shapes with little or no thought of what notes and intervals makes up that chord.
Whilst 4 string tenor players typically know every note they are playing at all times and why.
i nowadays play a six string bass in my band not to play chords. i enjoy the freedom to be able to transform a song in a different key if needed. sometimes the singer want to try some different. the additional low notes become very handy too. often the singer invites me to play a short bass solo inbetween guitar or harp parts. i like 6 strings so much that i seldom play my 4 and 5 string anymore. and not to forget, the big neck makes hughe tone. cheers from germany.
Oteil is a true artist. I thought it was really cool that my mid-level Peavey TL-6 has the same bridge as his megabucks Modulus
I have a huge affinity for players on 6 string. But one thing I thought was weird was him singing his solo. It makes sense he needs to hear his parts but singing them into a mic I think is weird. But the bass chords are amazing
Nice video! I played a graphite neck in the 80's and found it so cold and unpleasant (temp wise) that I quit using it. It did sound great and for the first time i played a fender Jazz that had no dead spots in the neck. Even the "C" on the "G" string rang clear!
Man that modulus is almost exactly what my dad had before I was born, his was a 5 and little darker blue, he had so much gear,custom warwicks! 8x10 cabs,etc and sadly everything got destroyed in a flood, and what did not had to be sold
I’ve been playing 7 string basses for over 24 years now.
I have more fun and much more creativity with my 7s
Picking up a new fretless 6 for a recording session coming up,, really looking forward to fretless again
I have a 6 string. Yeah it helped, I can play a mean Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star on the top two strings.
3:21 - literlly closed my eyes and smiled.
I'm so dope
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I love Oteil's performance from Bass Day 1997.
As someone who has played a 4 string for around 12 years, I can barely wrap my head around playing a 5 string. I'm positive a 6 string would make me give on playing all together.
@abc 123 It was a bad joke man, that's on me lol
Awesome interview
If some bass players want to play six so they can solo in high register that's fine. But I've played bass for 40 years - I can play chords relevant to what the guitarist/keyboardist would play by knowing the arpeggios/chord tones and the different modes.
It's not just that, on my six I can get a bassline going and also play chords at the same time.
@@witherwillowsounds3935 I know, I can do that on four or five. I'm not knocking 6, as in my post.
Depends what band setting you are in. Sometimes it's useful, especially if there are horns and keyboards involved.
I enjoyed my LTD D-6 bass last year!! Never thought of that idea before but I'll try it!! The next time or if I invest in a different 6 bass it'll be passive.
6's are GREAT. If you really want to feel the wall of sound capable with a long scale instrument ,I say try a Chapman "NS" Stick. This is what I play, and the wall of sound that comes from it is Godly.
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I love what Oteil played in 1997 Bass Day, his interpretation of "Get the funk out of ma face". I compiled a video of some Six String Bass Players and Oteil is one of my favorites.
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amazing talent ! I still wont ever go back to a 6. 5 or less is more than enough IMO
Absolutely true! I love this video. As a bass player of twenty years I just recently started learning blues guitar as well and I've taken all of the blues guitar knowledge I've learned so far and the scales and chords have made my bass playing skyrocket.
I expected you to be wearing a Fedora as you played your Fodera...
Just saw Oteil in LA. 12/27/2019 w John Mayer and some other excellent back up players. Billy Kreutzman on drums and Jerry Garcias' back up guitarist. Great night. You should also mention how good Oteil can sing...!!!
*(BTW... just bought an acoustic 5 string fretless bass. Never played before.)
Scott, put up some more videos! About anything. Guest or no guest! Need some SBL content!
Thanks!
I have a 6 strings fretless bass and it's amazing.
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First video I look up about 6 string bass & now I want one
I dropped my 6 string because I thought my hands were too small and I had a bit of a problem with patience but now I'd try it again
I do have a 5er strung E-G
Algo1 E-G?
Groundbreaking stuff
Algo1, you bought a 5er and removed the fifth string? Or, did you mean you have it EADGC, or BEADG?
While I appreciate good musicianship I've grown tired of musicians who just riff out. A million notes with zero meaning behind them. Give a bassist who can groove the shit out of a song, move when the songs calls for it and hit the best notes when it matters... Same for guitarists...
Donald Mousseau Yes please
Correct. Keep it on the 1 baby and just groove!
LOVE my 6's. Fretless and fretted.
U Da Man , Scott. 😉👍🏿 Love ya, Bro
Chords are the bread and butter of multi-string basses. Not to mention the extended range in the various positions, which minimize shifting, thus facilitating memorization and technique.
The shifting thing is a benefit for 5, but 6 I don’t see it. Low range has a finite stopping point which is why it helps with shifting. Unless you spent a lot of time in the high range of the bass it wouldn’t help too much. It’s all genre dependent though
This was a good video. Very talented.
OHHHH MY GAWWED!!!!!! This is a gem right here!!!
This is great! Thanks!
Top lesson! Thank you!
Off to shop for cheap used 6 string. Sold on the idea.
Oteil is absolutely awesome
Enlightened...thanks