It's funny because it does You all are gaslighting me (pun intended) so I checked today when I filled up. I drive a commercial truck in Canada and fill up at the commercial card-lock. When I fill up alone, I get 2 liters/second. When another truck is filling at the same time, I get 1 liter per second. A full tank is 150 liters and takes takes 1.25 mins alone or 2.5 mins if there is another truck.
@@DavidAlejandro201990it doesn't matter, because either spot in the pair would be fine. In fact, as long as you aren't charging from the same charging pair, you can do the one next to a charging car.
No, because he left two spaces in between, both spaces are now gonna be inefficient if someone parks there. Now if he had left 1 space in between, that would've given more space for people to charge efficiently on the other side. The unspoken urinal rule.
@@muzaffarabdullaev9315 "Inefficient" only in terms of equal spacing between cars, nothing to do with charging rate. A 3rd Tesla would be capable of politely plugging in at a 3rd supercharger, whether right next to the car which left two spaces, or leaving the open slot. Cars aren't embarassed or worried about another car seeing their charging cord.
That awkward moment when five of the ten spaces are alternately occupied, and a sixth guy shows up with barely enough power left to park and open his charge port.
The majority of EV owners charge at home, while they sleep, off peak hours. Not much sacrifice to wait at a super charger once in a blue moon when you take away all the weekly gas station visits.
@@arias.918 It must be nice being so out of touch, because the majority of EV owners are rich and can afford to garage their $100,000 golf cart. For the millions of plebs that have street parking, they will be forced to go to public charging.
Btw EVs are a huge fire hazard, & when they go off there’s no warning, & when it happens get away from it. Gotta wait 2hrs for it to charge, & can’t make a road trip in the same time as a gasser. EVs suck for anything but city commuting.
@@arias.918Depends on the car. It can take a day and a half to charge an electric car, or charge to at least 20 miles per day. While my hybrid takes almost two weeks before a refuel is needed. Southeast gas prices + Hybrid ICE car means its actually cheaper to take my hybrid to the gas station every two weeks than to charge my Model Y. If you’re in New England, then you’re an idiot to get electric given how EverSource charges $0.24 Kw/hr.
Which is strange because there's not a single coal-powered power plant anywhere in my province lol You know the electricity doesn't just come from the closest power plant right it comes from a mixture of all the power plants and I don't know if you've heard about this or not but Coal usage is not exactly increasing....
@@matthewsantoro4441the point is sure you’re driving an electric car to “save the planet” or whatever you think it does, but theres still coal power plants somewhere powering the charger so you can feel good about “saving the environment” by driving a literal bomb.
@@matthewsantoro4441he didn’t ask about your province, wherever you live. And even if we ignore the power plants producing power for the cars, how do you think the cars were produced?
@@matthewsantoro4441 Coal might not be, but oil, diesel, natural gas, it takes all of those to make EVs, and while they are cleaner than coal, they still arent allowed under the "climate change" politics
What's this "supercharging" and "filling up"? I just plug it in when I get home and unplug it before I leave. I have a 5 second wait, can your car do that?
For real. I never hear bolt owners, or any other ev brands for that matter, making it a part of their personality. And yet ive got tesla drivers wearing fuckin tesla merch coming into my store once or twice a day. When was the last time i saw someone wearing ford merch? Fucking never lol
Oh my god I am tired with people like you. Teslas owners aren’t the only car owner who makes there cars there whole personality like most car content creators does that.
They say they don’t have to worry about filling up. Reality is we think about filling up when the light turns on, they have to think about filling up after every ride.
After every ride? The average person commutes 30 miles a day....That's 10-15% of your range.....so.... You could go all week and just charge one day out of the week at work if your work has a charger
Idk, i charge at work like once or twice a week which takes like 10 seconds of effort and is free.. I have to plan longer trips a bit more though, but it's never been an issue
@@oliviersavard8676supercharger for quick short races (stop light to stop light) and turbo for anything over like 110-115. That’s what I have come to find. Unless there’s anti lag involved ofcourse.
In CA I've seen lines of Teslas waiting for a charging station.. Should we assume this is because no one is using the chargers in between (1b, 2b, etc.) being courteous and allowing supercharging to work so those supercharging can get on their way more quickly? Of course I'm being facetious. It's a stupid design just to be able to say there are enough charging stations but the reality is that the capacity was cut in half to pull it off. Stop being gullible.
@@NikoBellaKhouf2they reach for any way possible to say “it’s the same” when it’s not lol, they still fail to realize that even if their fairytale were true, filling up with gas is still 500x’s faster and will always be more efficient. Me personally, I’d rather spend 2-3 minutes pumping gas than wait 40 minutes to an hour for my rc car to charge just to have to do it all over again in an hour or 2. I seriously don’t understand where the people saying “it pumps slower if someone’s next to you” are coming from because I have to fill up 1-2 times everyday and wether it’s completely empty or completely full, there’s never been a difference in the speed of fuel coming out. 😂
Except they totally do. It's illegal to pump gas into an open container while it's on or in a vehicle, it's illegal to leave the pump running unattended, it's illegal to reenter your car during fillup due to static risk, it's illegal to pump gas into an unapproved container, it's illegal to pump gas near any source of ignition, it's illegal to pump with your engine running, you're advised against topping off... Should I go on?
They said that about Air Conditioning and we use them like it’s nothing lol Not that I support EVs I hate them since they’re just replacing a problem with another problem
@@squishykoolaid5286 gas also isn't getting directly pumped to everyone's house and before you say you mean "natural gas for heating" most people in the country don't even get that option.
as a normal car driver I genuinely couldn’t imagine needing to sit and wait while your car charges so you can get places. and where I am, electric car chargers aren’t common at all unless you’re in a big city. So.
@@oliviersavard8676the 6.2 is the hellcat motor but I don’t think they are whippes in them. Probably Eaton superchargers if I had to guess but not sure.
You know what else doesn't slow down, superchargers that were installed within the last like 5 years.... These are V2.... V3 and V4 do not do this and are more than twice as powerful...
Real conservatives make a whining sound whenever any change is suggested, making it impossible to, say, fund a better energy grid to keep up with increasing demand. Research ways to reduce the pollution it takes to make an EV. Get better energy sources. Fix literally any of the problems caused by the oil shortage we will be experiencing very soon. This isn't some far off problem anymore. Predictions put the lifespan of current oil consumption at 50-60 years. I am not even 30 yet, I want to live to my 80s, but y'all are making it really hard. Fine, screw me. I don't care. But my niece and nephew are less than 4. I want them to live past 60. When we run out of oil, everything I'm begging us to change will still need to change, but we won't be able to do it on our terms. We'll be forced to do it or we'll all starve. Only the richest 1%-ers that can squirrel enough away to last their lifetime will avoid the suffering to come if we don't change. What I'm most afraid of is if there is some infrastructure that requires oil to set up, but once it's there, it doesn't need oil to maintain. What if we get in a scenario where there's not enough oil to rid our dependency on oil?
@@dk3062 and? Does that make me wrong? Or does that just make me a hypocrite... not even that, because I wasn't asking them to stop whining, I was asking them to stop justifying doing nothing. They can whine all they want for all I care. As long as we stop killing ourselves, I couldn't care less how anyone chooses to conduct themselves.
@@dk3062 thanks for telling me what I care about after two comments (one very lengthy) explaining exactly what I do (and don't) care about. I'm glad you know more about that than I do. For the record, I saw a chance to use the first guy's words as rhetoric. It's not that deep. But this is part of the problem. People seem to be willing to do anything except change. You know exactly what I want to talk about, but you're too busy debating the exact choices of words I used instead of actually talking about the issue. I mean, I don't know your voting habits, but I get the distinct impression you disagree with me and vote to match. Fine. F#ck me. I used the wrong words. I'm a dumb@ss hypocrite. I'll do my best to use better word choice in the future. Whatever. Can we please move on to the actual issue? We're running out of fuel. And we're running out of time to do anything about it.
@@reginaldgraham5221 Yes or I have no experience with that where I live we actually don't have a single coal powered power plant. Were about 96% renewable and nuclear.
As a trucker it baffles me that smarter people than us high school grads think that this will work on a heavy duty vehicle, I cant imagine the added weight of the batteries or the range they will give up in the north during winter, diesels are more efficient than gas engines, nothing beats them at hauling heavy loada efficiently over long distances.
Honestly, though, if you are just driving it daily and not taking vacations, you'll NEVER use a charging station. You just plug it up when you get home and unplug it before driving off. Saves a lot of money
It is predicted that we will run out of oil within 50-60 years. This isn't some far off problem. This is happening this century if we don't start changing NOW. Wake up! If you're less than 30 you are likely to be alive when we run out. If not, your kids most certainly are. If we don't make some changes on our terms, we WILL be forced to make those same changes you're so scared off at the least convenient moment. It's not going to be pretty for all but the richest 1%-ers who can squirrel enough away to last their lifetime. The US has about 5 years of oil reserves... what do you think will happen to the price of gas once we start using it? What do you think will happen to the price of your groceries which are carried across the country in trucks? The cost of every single thing you ever buy that has any plastic in it? The cost of water, using a diesel backup for power outages? How are you going to get to work, even if you could pay for any of that? The clothes on your back are probably part polyester. Even if they're 100% cotton, they still need to be manufactured and driven to the store you buy them in. Both processes which use oil. Our entire society will crumble unless we make drastic, systematic changes to the way we function now.
@@a-jerk I know haha. V8 cars are awesome. Not going to daily drive one because of that nasty fuel bill though. High performance ev's don't have that problem which is why I like them.
@@zyebormyea you will be driving till that piece of shit catches or god forbid the battery reaches the end of its life and you will be presented with a very expensive bill. save the environment my ass
@@zyeborm I am glad I don't need to change my gas tank every 100,000 miles for 6k a pop. There are pros and cons to both and EVs have more cons then pros ATM, will probably change with more development in the near future. Wish we weren't forcefully trying to pushout gas cars, believing EVs to be better right now, even in racing applications as that is my favorite hobby.
@@kenny1034and then you fuck up your suspension because the shitty lift you got installed by that shady garage along with those fuel wheels and shitty ass stretched tires just gave up
That sounds like such a waste of time, taking time out of your day to refuel and having to stop at all. I charge while I sleep everyday and wake up to a full battery ready to drive anywhere I need without stopping.
@@evenflo75 If you're driving more than 300 miles a day, then I think you should be looking for another job. But regardless of that, you can go to basically any v3 supercharger and go from 10% to 80% in about 15 minutes if you really need to. That is about another 250 to 270 miles of driving range in 15 minutes. Really, not that much of a hassle.
@ProXcaliber youre not taking multiple other factors into acount. Your 300 range is drastically diminished by weather, the constant ramping of amps in stop and go which creates more heat in cells, cables, lugs, whatever capacitors, contactors and motors. Damn near any technician worth any salt avoids electric. Then to top it off the stupid long battery charge wait time. O you got rapid chargers. Tell me you dont know anything about how those work and how extremely bad those are for cells, and how they shorten the life of those 10k dollar worth batteries. Not to mention there isnt a single cell on the market that has a longer then 7 year life. Compared to regular fuel youre screwed in so many ways with electric.
@@evenflo75 Weather does not have anywhere near the effect on EVs as you are making it out to be. These vehicles are all tested in different environments before they are even considered for mass production. And this includes EVs from all manufacturers and even regular gas or diesel cars. It's part of the process of making a car before selling it to people. The stop and go of regular city driving or even driving in traffic is where an EV exceeds over a regular gas or diesel car. This is due to the simple fact that an engine has to continue running for all your things to continue working in your gas or diesel car. For example, AC, radio, lights, accessories, etc. Where an EV uses VERY little energy when stopped, even with the AC running. These vehicles are made with efficiency in mind, so all the systems in an EV are designed to use as little power as possible. You also clearly don't know how electricity works because if what you stated is true then things like the circuits in your house wouldn't last more than a few years with constant cycling. You also don't realize that most of these batteries are warrantied for an average of 8 years or 100,000 miles, and some even more than that. As for the fast chargers, there is actually a study conducted by multiple research firms that has shown that there is VERY little difference between fast charging and home charging. The main difference is how the battery is cared for. Meaning not charging over 80% unless necessary and even if you do charge over 80%, using some of that range within the next 24 hours. You seem like you are behind the times on your information, and just listing off talking head anti-EV points. I'd suggest looking into the things that worry you and checking with multiple sources before coming to conclusions. Maybe also don't rely on information biases. Meaning, if you search for a concern and find one that confirms your bias, perhaps try looking at the counter to that bias for a clearer picture.
@@DevinSeeleyDevilOi don’t understand why that is so hyped up. Getting gas isn’t much of a hassle and you can always just take a couple jerry cans home to fill up each day.
If you have to go to a station like this after a long day of work you probably shouldn't own one to begin with. Basically everyone in the EV community will tell you if you don't have a charger at home or the ability to charge it home, you shouldn't own one. Also it doesn't take an hour. Even on one of these stations in like 20 minutes you can get half of your range back which is enough for at least 5 days of the average person's driving.
@@DigitalSteel I understand what you are saying but by “not very futuristic”, I mean that they aren’t more advanced than gas cars and at this point in time, don’t offer significant advantages either, especially considering their higher cost and still very severe environmental impact.
They only run the 150KW for a short time and ramp down from there, so it should not effect you charge times that much. So instead of 30 minutes it might take 40 minutes. I know on the 250kw chargers it ramps up to 250kw in the first 5% then at about 20% charge it starts to ramp down. By 50% charge you are down to 150kw. By 80% you are only charging 50kw.
Doesnt matter, park on the other side and plug right in. It doesnt matter if they charge on 1A and 2B, just dont use 2A or 1B. Two spaces in between are absolutely ok, except the 3rd car has to park (and charge) directly beside them on 3A or 4B 😊
Gay Id rather get a fill at the pump and get another 400 miles for 10 minutes of wait and pump time. Yall tesla nerds just dont live in reality where trucks are needed or something. All you know is freeways and california couldesacs or something.
This isn't an issue with the cars... It's a crappy design choice of power charging stations - indubitably for cost-cutting. The supply shouldn't be shared between two different stalls If it can't run at maximum capacity when connected to both. Or they ought to use the ID protocol where the station identifies the car and gives the supercharging only to the first one connected for a specified period of time..
@@somejerk1520 Most EV owners will be charging at home or work. These stations are for emergencies or long trips, which is not your everyday car experience. You never been to a gas station where they have long lines sand bags on all the pumps, because there's a shortage? You don't have to worry about any of that charging your EV in your home garage.
@Mysdia You do when the grid is down, or the WEF decides you were a bad boy for eating a steak and now your EV won't power up or allow you to drive >5 miles from home.
@@MysdiaUnless of course they used the same code math as the installers in the video did, and that home charger can’t operate if you’re actually home and doing other things.
It's not negligence, this was an upgrade from the first version. This type of supercharger is now two versions old.. The first version didn't have power sharing, you just got 75 kW. This was the next version where if there was no one beside you, you could basically also take their power. So it was just an upgrade from that. New stations are not only more than twice as powerful, but they don't do this type of power sharing anymore. Also it's not an inferior product even with how it is lol
Learned the head aches of EV charging when I was out 50 miles from home with 20 miles left. Couldn’t find a single fast charger and the few on the map were either out of service or being used when I got to them. Then had to make accounts and download apps for each one I tried. A few of them wouldn’t work at all for some reason and I had to call their customer service where they had to reset them and all this crap. Was a nightmare. Figured out the flow eventually and was able to keep it charged up full day to day but if u forget or somehow don’t get charged up once u can be in big big problems. There’s wayyyy too many slow chargers in most towns and barley any fast ones. With 3 miles left I finally got to an open V3, which was yet another brand so downloaded another app and made another account and got 50% in line a hour and half. But being out trying to get a decent amount of charge and make it home took over 5 hours. So yes I get some of the pros of EVs but with the current set up it’s just not for me. My gas car can get like 500 miles on one tank and there’s gas accessible everywhere and when there’s a gas station listed on a map, it’s actually there and works. Once EVs can get 400+ miles and can charge up to 80-90% in good time then I’ll probably get one bc I like the power / torque, I like the quiet of them. I like all the tech they tend to have over gas cars even from same brand and model, ie Benz. But right now there’s too many possible issues for ppl who are fairly busy and sometimes need to drive 150+ miles in a day, throughout the day. Gas car is just less worry and more freeing. But I will say, the charging costs are much less then gas in calI. Gas prices will push many ppl to EV when they realize they can go the same 100 miles from like 1/5th the cost….
Yep the ammount of money spent on gas infrastructure is insane. If they spent even a fraction of what was spent on getting gas to people on electric chargers it would make a huge difference.
Not when they are paying for that 100k piece of shit. Youre just figuring the cost to fill it. Theres also the cost to pay for it. Fuck that electric junk.
@@tomriley5790 You wanna know something dick WE ACTUALLY OWN GAS CARS THAT ARE GOOD why spend so much money on a trend that will be gone in 2 years big waste of tax dollars
You can always wait for a charger to be free, if let’s say there’s 5 cars charging at least one of them should be finished soon right? Anyway I’m not getting any car at all
I drive a Tesla all throughout high school and it was actually just the perfect car. It fulfilled 95% of all my needs. I graduated 6 months ago and now have an apartment and unfortunately without being able to charge at home it makes it more of a hassle, so now I'm looking for a different car. But to say EVs are trash is dramatic
It doesn't make them trash. It just makes them 5% useless. The fact is that an automobile is not a 5% of the time it doesn't meet your needs. @@mrgman757
So I'm kind of curious what aspect of this actually genuinely bothers you? This video is basically just saying if you use an old USB port it's not going to be as fast.... Which is how it works.. For the vast majority of people the only time you will ever be at one of these stations is if you're on a road trip, the car will tell you how many stalls are available it will automatically route you to a less busy one if it can, what is the problem here lol
I don't need any of this, because whether I appear at some gas station 100 miles from anything else, or if I show up at Costco with 75 other cars, I'm 10 minutes until full. Done. I don't have to worry about the vast majority of the time. I can rely on 100% of the time. Just think if your surgeon said that 60% of the time he operates quickly. The rest of the time it is an unacceptable outcome. You can dismiss charging times, but it doesn't change reality.@@matthewsantoro4441
If you mention political parties every time anything happens, everyone is going to be 100% convinced you are a useless waste of time with no ability to comprehend reality
"don't be like this guy" doesn't explain what "this guy" was doing wrong. Here's a tip for all of you, if anyone ever says "don't be like this guy" and refuses to elaborate, you should do your best to find out exactly what they're doing, and imitate them to the best of your ability, because they're doing something VERY right if people fail to find anything wrong with their actions despite obviously trying to do so.
@@Bobspineable hydrogen, maybe? It has acceptable energy density and is better for the environment, but I don’t know how well it actually works in the cars that use it
@@ch4z_bucks Hydrogen storage is still being figured out. Biodiesel can be made from used cooking oil, or if you want to subsidize farmers, fresh oil. It's already being used a lot. Biodiesel will corrode natural rubber sealing, but luckily that's not being used any more. It tends to dissolve old deposits and might clog up filters on first use. After that you just worry about water contamination and temperature…
No, no, the trick is to not buy an EV until the charging infrastructure is built out or only use an EV for short runs based around your house or business. Range anxiety is just not worth your health!
@@sirbum1918 That is not the case anymore. A lot of EVs and chargers now have status updates when you navigate to them. For example, Tesla's navigation system tells you how many stalls are available, if any are inoperable, what the charge rate is, and what the current price is all from the screen in the car. A lot of other chargers are also like this as well now. And if you look up charger network maps, it is very easy to see just how many there are all across the country. Sure, they may not be as abundant as gas stations yet, but they are constantly expanding and adding new locations. Not to mention, if you are really in a bind, you can plug into literally any standard outlet. Or, if you have the time, you can also use a standard 240v outlet from a dryer in your home to charge faster. I live in South Florida and have family in North Carolina, and I make a trip once a month to visit. During this trip, I only need to make 4 stops, and I often pay more in tolls than I do in charging my car.
@@mrgman757 Sure, but that is called paranoia. Because those same kind of people also feel the same with a gas car or when flying on a plane. They all fall under the same category.
Do you know that most EVs charge at home while they are sleeping and never visit a gas station? That means they save more time than you and don't have to pay as much as you do for gas.
I just never understand why people think electiric cars are trash lets go 100 years back people had horses but wow a new tech its called a car and it runs with diesel or gas where do i find gas what happens when you run out of gas thats just the same fkin thing
5 minutes a week is near 4.5 hours a year you spend pumping gas. Imagine, never spending another minute pumping gas and saving near 70% by charging at home. Also consider never doing an oil change, tune up, or fan belts... and getting 50% more time on a brake job.
The V2 chargers are all updated to give the car with the lowest state of charge priority. So if you pull up next to someone that’s at 80% SOC, and you’re at 10%, then the super charger will prioritize your car, giving you a much faster rate of charge than the old 50/50 split
I don't even think that's really a software adjustment I think that's just the fact that a car that's up at 80% can't consume that much current so it just naturally goes to the lower car
@@matthewsantoro4441 That's is the magic behind V3 Supercharger too. 3 stall share one unit, most of time not all the cars consume 250 kw but if all car arrive low charge your speed will still reduce. So it is still good to spread out in V3.
@@asiaworldcity Is it three stalls? I thought V3 actually shares four stalls that's capable of one megawatt. I'm also hoping after the cyber truck launches they unlock some additional power with V3 by basically just introducing power sharing. If it is three stalls or four stalls, whatever it is be able to get more power if there's fewer cars connected
here's the thing, I have a truck and a Tesla. it takes about as long to fill the truck as my car. the difference is I very seldom need a supercharger as my car charges when im home, the truck NEEDS that gas station.
@@ProXcaliber I can also hire someone to go pump my gas. It’s the same thing. The only difference is I’m not constrained to specialized locations and be forced to stop at when I travel. It takes me 8 minutes on average to stop pump and go. I get 600+ miles in my diesel SUV. So on a 600 mile road trip it is the EV that NEEDS to stop not me.
@@ERROLS_AUTOWERKS Sure, but how often are you taking road trips for that to be a concern? And how much are you spending each time on those stops? Not to mention that diesel is often more expensive than even gasoline. You also say “specialized” locations, but there are a bunch of chargers all over the place, not to mention you can plug into basically any standard outlet too if you need to in an emergency. I make regular trips between South Florida and North Carolina to visit family about once a month, and I only make about 4 stops in total. During that trip I tend to spend more on tolls than I do to charge my car also.
@@icedout2322 Here in the UK not everyone has a driveway you can just charge up on without dragging a charging cable over the pavement. I'll be sticking with petrol.
I’ll stick with my supercharged El Camino thank you. It takes a whole 3 minutes to fill up. And where I live the pump doesn’t slow down when I’m filling up my tank.
The problem with a Tesla is that recharging will never be as fast or portable as gas. Gas just takes putting that liquid inside the car and you are done. You can even carry extra gas with you so you can refill in a minute if need be. So that's a point they might want to look into fixing.
The Tesla hate is hilarious. You charge at home during the night for $3. That gets you 300+ miles. I don’t think any of you guys drive that much in a day. Just mad about pointless things that would most likely never happen to you. But yeah if you guys validate dropping 80 bucks on gas to save time go for it.
Plus you guys act like EVs should be super efficient when they are still kinda new to the car market. How many mpg does a car from the 80s get? It takes time for things to get more efficient. Grow up
Yeah we all know this. Though, as time goes on there will be more EV vehicles on the roads and at the charging stations, then you are Sh#t out of luck if you need to get charged.
@@lachlanB323 Yes I agree. I should reworded my reply to say you may no choice at certain times and have to share with some of the charging stations that split the power with two EV vehicles connected. The charging stations will definitely get better over time and EV's will charge faster.
No they're not remotely useless they just share power. These chargers are two generations old now. The new ones are more than twice as powerful and don't power share. These are very rare stations at this point
@genebickwick3746 same as electricity... only difference is one takes up a dumb amount of my time and also won't get me where I wanna be how do I go fishing hours away from anything in a testla? No charger no toy car go
@@tyler97511 tbh it’s personal preference but I’d rather spend like 50 cents then 50 bucks, because I can just just do something I was gonna do with my gas car
@genebickwick3746 Kinda sad is what it is to be honest. Electric cars are unfinished and not very practical yet still being pushed on me. They aren't environmentally friendly when the battery goes bad don't drive farther than a normal car nor are they cheaper to drive once you consider the upfront cost and longevity of the vehicle
Imagine going to a gas station and having to leave a few pumps free because if another guy fills up next to you, all the gas slows way down. The future folks 😂
Imagine bringing god into this. If you believe in god then he gave us legs to walk and run with, nothing more, nothing less. Humans decided to abuse animals for transportation for thousands of years, then they decided to create earth killing machines for transportation. Give it 20-30 years and 95% of cars on the road will be electric including yours. We can accept change for the better and thats going to start with a little bit less superior technology and convenience but companies are now working on making solid state batteries affordable which will change the game and give you 800 mi range with 10 min charge times. Also about 90-98% of batteries can be recycled so in the long run it will be better to continue using batteries than oil/gas which are non renewable and there is a fininte amount of it in the world.
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I don't get why he says the first image is of someone ruining supercharging for other people. Can someone explain? Because he then switches to say supercharging is allowed for one bay per two from the same terminal. Therefore the only way to ruin someone's supercharging is to park next to them. However in the first image, no one is parking next to anyone.
@@maddhatter3564 they’re hella similar, but twin-screws compress the air right inside the supercharger, then sends it to the engine, while roots compresses air inside the manifold, kinda like a air pump.
I call ecars Sizzlers and the chargers Juice Machines. I would call them Mini Motorifics, but they didn't charge and it would show how young I'm not. Yes, I still have my original Hot Wheels Sizzlers and JM
I'm good, I'll just park at home and plug in without worrying about gas caps, static electricity, spilling, providing payment information, lines, or etc.
I do roadside assistance, it's funny to see people get upset when a big diesel shows up to save they're fancy electric car with a diesel generator to charge it. They've even tried scolding me about leaving my truck running. It's okay tho I don't charge cheap for that service and I still roll coal as I leave. Tesla's are the new Prius, only entitled Karen's and douchbags drive them. 😂😂😂😂
@@mrgman757 yeah they are, after so long in this business you meet a lot of people on the road and you notice a pattern in people and cars. Your probably one of them that's why my comment bothers you. Complain about it all you want but the calls are gonna keep coming in.
Same with gas pumps it once took me 5 minutes to pump $40 at a old time station near me could've had a whole conversation with the guy on the other side of the pump 😂😂
Technically it's still possible to do one every two chargers, but one car would have to park right next to them on the one that doesn't share power with theirs
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I’m so happy the diesel pump doesn’t slow down when someone is at the one next to me
It's funny because it does
You all are gaslighting me (pun intended) so I checked today when I filled up. I drive a commercial truck in Canada and fill up at the commercial card-lock. When I fill up alone, I get 2 liters/second. When another truck is filling at the same time, I get 1 liter per second. A full tank is 150 liters and takes takes 1.25 mins alone or 2.5 mins if there is another truck.
Pretty sure V3 supercharger doesn't split power..
@@runescapefan0001😂😂 you must live in the middle of nowhere then
@@bubaa1218nah happens here to. In a pretty busy area. When 2 hoses are used from the same pump the speed slows a littlr
Some of the ev chargers near me are powered by gas generators lol
"Don't be like this guy..." Video shows someone plugged in, and giving the suggested extra space. LOL
I think he was just explaining the point, not related to the guys parked in this video.
@@DavidAlejandro201990it doesn't matter, because either spot in the pair would be fine. In fact, as long as you aren't charging from the same charging pair, you can do the one next to a charging car.
No, because he left two spaces in between, both spaces are now gonna be inefficient if someone parks there. Now if he had left 1 space in between, that would've given more space for people to charge efficiently on the other side. The unspoken urinal rule.
@@muzaffarabdullaev9315 "Inefficient" only in terms of equal spacing between cars, nothing to do with charging rate. A 3rd Tesla would be capable of politely plugging in at a 3rd supercharger, whether right next to the car which left two spaces, or leaving the open slot. Cars aren't embarassed or worried about another car seeing their charging cord.
"Don't be like this guy" Tesla cheaper out on the install and it's THIS guys faukt
That awkward moment when five of the ten spaces are alternately occupied, and a sixth guy shows up with barely enough power left to park and open his charge port.
Then proceeds to get verbally assaulted by the other guys lmao
Then you go in between because that's where the space is. Do you wait in line if half the urinals are in use and you have to pee?
@@thewhitefalcon8539 Do… do you not?
It’s not that big of a deal.
didnt know the charge port door was connected to the 400V battery 🧐
So cool to see people know the difference between series and parallel..
One is a saga, the other is lines.
What does this have to do with series and parallel?
The more you learn about EVs the more you realize how much you have to sacrifice.
The majority of EV owners charge at home, while they sleep, off peak hours. Not much sacrifice to wait at a super charger once in a blue moon when you take away all the weekly gas station visits.
@@arias.918 It must be nice being so out of touch, because the majority of EV owners are rich and can afford to garage their $100,000 golf cart.
For the millions of plebs that have street parking, they will be forced to go to public charging.
Btw EVs are a huge fire hazard, & when they go off there’s no warning, & when it happens get away from it.
Gotta wait 2hrs for it to charge, & can’t make a road trip in the same time as a gasser.
EVs suck for anything but city commuting.
@@arias.918Depends on the car. It can take a day and a half to charge an electric car, or charge to at least 20 miles per day.
While my hybrid takes almost two weeks before a refuel is needed.
Southeast gas prices + Hybrid ICE car means its actually cheaper to take my hybrid to the gas station every two weeks than to charge my Model Y.
If you’re in New England, then you’re an idiot to get electric given how EverSource charges $0.24 Kw/hr.
@@AkioWasRightWhat??? I bought my Tesla model 3 for about $30k after the tax incentive. Where are you seeing these 100k EVs?
Coal plant burning away in the back trying to keep up with the demand
Which is strange because there's not a single coal-powered power plant anywhere in my province lol
You know the electricity doesn't just come from the closest power plant right it comes from a mixture of all the power plants and I don't know if you've heard about this or not but Coal usage is not exactly increasing....
@@matthewsantoro4441the point is sure you’re driving an electric car to “save the planet” or whatever you think it does, but theres still coal power plants somewhere powering the charger so you can feel good about “saving the environment” by driving a literal bomb.
@@matthewsantoro4441he didn’t ask about your province, wherever you live. And even if we ignore the power plants producing power for the cars, how do you think the cars were produced?
@@_thisnameistakennuclear, biomass, geothermal, solar, wind. There’s 5 energy sources other than coal that could power EV’s.
@@matthewsantoro4441 Coal might not be, but oil, diesel, natural gas, it takes all of those to make EVs, and while they are cleaner than coal, they still arent allowed under the "climate change" politics
Couldn't hear you about supercharging, I already filled up AND drove across town in the time it took to charge up.
What's this "supercharging" and "filling up"? I just plug it in when I get home and unplug it before I leave. I have a 5 second wait, can your car do that?
And how much did it costed you? lol
Crazy how you buy a Tesla and it’s your whole personality. Like the espresso guys. 😂
Yeah, like dudes and lifted trucks lol
For real. I never hear bolt owners, or any other ev brands for that matter, making it a part of their personality. And yet ive got tesla drivers wearing fuckin tesla merch coming into my store once or twice a day. When was the last time i saw someone wearing ford merch? Fucking never lol
Oh my god I am tired with people like you. Teslas owners aren’t the only car owner who makes there cars there whole personality like most car content creators does that.
It’s almost like… this is a TH-cam channel.. about TESLAS…. Hmm…. Wonder what the FUCK else it should be about then. Gain some comprehension.
@@shadowgamer2587 So they're one of many car owners, then? Whats the difference in saying this if he's technically right?
I'll stick with a 2 min fill up
Keep watching Tesla content though. Rent free.
And you will once hydrogen infrastructure expands 🤙
@@stickyoxtail Tesla content just pops up in my feeds because Teslas are cars and I watch car content. We dont search for this shit lol
@@kennyfnpowers707 the universe is telling you to get one. You should.
@WendysOfficiaI be honest, you don't care about the environment.
You had me at "tesla insurance" where youre driving is always tracked and you pay more if you drive around past 10pm
No way that's a thing
@@tiredanddepressedelon musk should not be allowed to make shit because he does things like this every time lmao
@@tiredanddepressedit is
@@kellianacoffmanpretty authoritarian, big government of you to say that about a private business owner.
@@user-rm7kb3il6x it’s authoritarian to believe that i have no right to display dislike towards a business owner because they are a business owner.
They say they don’t have to worry about filling up. Reality is we think about filling up when the light turns on, they have to think about filling up after every ride.
After every ride? The average person commutes 30 miles a day....That's 10-15% of your range.....so....
You could go all week and just charge one day out of the week at work if your work has a charger
No we don’t. 😂
You don't have to think to plug in a cable. If you do, I really hope you aren't a liscensed driver.
Idk, i charge at work like once or twice a week which takes like 10 seconds of effort and is free.. I have to plan longer trips a bit more though, but it's never been an issue
They have to think about charging before starting any trip over 300 miles. I hope the virtue signaling is worth it.
I prefer centrifugal or positive displacement supercharging personally
and then your car gets 8 mpg
turbo is where it's at
@@oliviersavard8676and then it blows up if you look at it the wrong way
I will die on the supercharger hill
@@oliviersavard8676supercharger for
quick short races (stop light to stop light) and turbo for anything over like 110-115. That’s what I have come to find. Unless there’s anti lag involved ofcourse.
@@fewminutestudio959anti lag changed my life racing a turbo car
Im simply addicted to the plateau like torque curve that a Positive displacement blower provides.
'Don't ruin supercharging for other people'
Oh ok, good to know, I'll keep this in mind when I'm at the gas station.
In CA I've seen lines of Teslas waiting for a charging station.. Should we assume this is because no one is using the chargers in between (1b, 2b, etc.) being courteous and allowing supercharging to work so those supercharging can get on their way more quickly?
Of course I'm being facetious. It's a stupid design just to be able to say there are enough charging stations but the reality is that the capacity was cut in half to pull it off.
Stop being gullible.
@@fredflintstone8048nope, drove in California every supercharger was being used
well apparently it's the same for gas stations too lol. If there's another car it pumps at a slower rate
@@akitoyami4284I've never noticed any such thing at a gas station
@@NikoBellaKhouf2they reach for any way possible to say “it’s the same” when it’s not lol, they still fail to realize that even if their fairytale were true, filling up with gas is still 500x’s faster and will always be more efficient. Me personally, I’d rather spend 2-3 minutes pumping gas than wait 40 minutes to an hour for my rc car to charge just to have to do it all over again in an hour or 2. I seriously don’t understand where the people saying “it pumps slower if someone’s next to you” are coming from because I have to fill up 1-2 times everyday and wether it’s completely empty or completely full, there’s never been a difference in the speed of fuel coming out. 😂
I’m glad nobody tells me how to pour my gas
Except they totally do. It's illegal to pump gas into an open container while it's on or in a vehicle, it's illegal to leave the pump running unattended, it's illegal to reenter your car during fillup due to static risk, it's illegal to pump gas into an unapproved container, it's illegal to pump gas near any source of ignition, it's illegal to pump with your engine running, you're advised against topping off... Should I go on?
At least you don't have to wait an hour to fill up and it doesn't go up to 2 hours if someone is charging next to you 😂@@specialopsdave
Proof our electric grid could never handle everyone driving an electric car
They said that about Air Conditioning and we use them like it’s nothing lol
Not that I support EVs I hate them since they’re just replacing a problem with another problem
We have managed to keep up with demand from gas
@@squishykoolaid5286 gas also isn't getting directly pumped to everyone's house and before you say you mean "natural gas for heating" most people in the country don't even get that option.
as a normal car driver I genuinely couldn’t imagine needing to sit and wait while your car charges so you can get places. and where I am, electric car chargers aren’t common at all unless you’re in a big city. So.
I prefer whipped superchargers personally
Whippled on a 6.2 hemi or a 5.0😮💨😮💨
@@l-jerszy-lu mean a 6.4?
@@Xs2446the 6.4 is naturally aspirated, it's the old srt engine (now scat pack i think), the 6.2 is the supercharged one
@@oliviersavard8676the 6.2 is the hellcat motor but I don’t think they are whippes in them. Probably Eaton superchargers if I had to guess but not sure.
@@l-jerszy-lI’ve got one on my 5.7 ram bitch moves for sure
You know what doesn’t slow down? The fuel pumps when they’re busy
You know what else doesn't slow down, superchargers that were installed within the last like 5 years....
These are V2.... V3 and V4 do not do this and are more than twice as powerful...
@@matthewsantoro4441 my favorite car chargers are the ones powered by diesel generators
@@matthewsantoro4441I’ve never seen someone slob on the nob of electric cars more then you. Bravo
Guess you never looked at the gas pump when another car pulls in next to you. They slow down quite a bit!
Obviously never been to a gas station low on fuel. They slow the pumps down. Once took me 20 minutes to fill my 328
love that gas generator in the background.
It's an AC to DC converter, but ok
Why would you lie about such an easy thing to verify
This is why Gas is king.
King of unpredictable prices
@@leonardodtc4847love my car cuz $20 n full most $22
Pro tip don't buy garbage.
Exactly that's why I bought a Tesla instead of something that has to use electrify America
@@matthewsantoro4441has to use to electrify America? Is English your first language, dude?
@@_thisnameistakenthat’s actually how you say, “something HAS to use something”.
@@Bobspineable sure, but his sentence still doesn’t make any sense.
@@_thisnameistakenwdym, you don’t use electrify America?
Real superchargers make a wining sound
Real conservatives make a whining sound whenever any change is suggested, making it impossible to, say, fund a better energy grid to keep up with increasing demand. Research ways to reduce the pollution it takes to make an EV. Get better energy sources. Fix literally any of the problems caused by the oil shortage we will be experiencing very soon.
This isn't some far off problem anymore. Predictions put the lifespan of current oil consumption at 50-60 years. I am not even 30 yet, I want to live to my 80s, but y'all are making it really hard. Fine, screw me. I don't care. But my niece and nephew are less than 4. I want them to live past 60.
When we run out of oil, everything I'm begging us to change will still need to change, but we won't be able to do it on our terms. We'll be forced to do it or we'll all starve. Only the richest 1%-ers that can squirrel enough away to last their lifetime will avoid the suffering to come if we don't change. What I'm most afraid of is if there is some infrastructure that requires oil to set up, but once it's there, it doesn't need oil to maintain. What if we get in a scenario where there's not enough oil to rid our dependency on oil?
@@ajreukgjdi94you literally just whined.
@@dk3062 and? Does that make me wrong? Or does that just make me a hypocrite... not even that, because I wasn't asking them to stop whining, I was asking them to stop justifying doing nothing. They can whine all they want for all I care. As long as we stop killing ourselves, I couldn't care less how anyone chooses to conduct themselves.
@@ajreukgjdi94 if you didn't care you wouldn't mention conservatives whining
@@dk3062 thanks for telling me what I care about after two comments (one very lengthy) explaining exactly what I do (and don't) care about. I'm glad you know more about that than I do. For the record, I saw a chance to use the first guy's words as rhetoric. It's not that deep.
But this is part of the problem. People seem to be willing to do anything except change. You know exactly what I want to talk about, but you're too busy debating the exact choices of words I used instead of actually talking about the issue. I mean, I don't know your voting habits, but I get the distinct impression you disagree with me and vote to match. Fine. F#ck me. I used the wrong words. I'm a dumb@ss hypocrite. I'll do my best to use better word choice in the future. Whatever. Can we please move on to the actual issue? We're running out of fuel. And we're running out of time to do anything about it.
longest part of my fill up is choosing the choccy bar and waiting for the coffee :\
Never had this issue with gas
Yea don’t want wanna put to much strain on those diesel generators powering your car 😂
Yeah that's not a thing lol
@matthewsantoro4441 sorry, coal
@@reginaldgraham5221 Yes or I have no experience with that where I live we actually don't have a single coal powered power plant.
Were about 96% renewable and nuclear.
@@matthewsantoro4441 where would that be
@@reginaldgraham5221 Ontario canada
lol I hate when people charge next to me
Just get a gas car and dont wait for 6 hours to drive 100 miles and then for the battery to explode on some electric china crap
@@MrTefei can tell you know nothing about ev’s
@@MrTefe6 hours? I hate to tell you this bud...
@@LX.727 learn english and look up the definition of "Exaguration" and "Sarcasm"
@@CARAK1 then where’s the “/s”?
I’m so happy the gasoline pump at the convenient store is universal and I don’t have to worry about this EV BS
We get it you are broke and can’t afford one.
All chargers are universal. That’s why we have a standard, just like the gasoline pump works for all ICE cars.
As a trucker it baffles me that smarter people than us high school grads think that this will work on a heavy duty vehicle, I cant imagine the added weight of the batteries or the range they will give up in the north during winter, diesels are more efficient than gas engines, nothing beats them at hauling heavy loada efficiently over long distances.
Imagine this, they have these cars that you put liquid in and in 3 minutes you can drive 400 miles again!
Imagine if the liquid was called gas lol 😅
Honestly, though, if you are just driving it daily and not taking vacations, you'll NEVER use a charging station. You just plug it up when you get home and unplug it before driving off. Saves a lot of money
@@adamwigley9738 no thanks I have a penis and balls
Here’s the thing though, we do need an alternative fuel source as oil is finite. Better the start searching now before it’s too late.
It is predicted that we will run out of oil within 50-60 years. This isn't some far off problem. This is happening this century if we don't start changing NOW. Wake up! If you're less than 30 you are likely to be alive when we run out. If not, your kids most certainly are. If we don't make some changes on our terms, we WILL be forced to make those same changes you're so scared off at the least convenient moment. It's not going to be pretty for all but the richest 1%-ers who can squirrel enough away to last their lifetime. The US has about 5 years of oil reserves... what do you think will happen to the price of gas once we start using it? What do you think will happen to the price of your groceries which are carried across the country in trucks? The cost of every single thing you ever buy that has any plastic in it? The cost of water, using a diesel backup for power outages? How are you going to get to work, even if you could pay for any of that? The clothes on your back are probably part polyester. Even if they're 100% cotton, they still need to be manufactured and driven to the store you buy them in. Both processes which use oil.
Our entire society will crumble unless we make drastic, systematic changes to the way we function now.
this doesn't happen with my v8
Doesn't happen on V3 superchargers either or V4.
@@lachlanB323 I meant my V8 gas car 😭
@@a-jerk I know haha. V8 cars are awesome. Not going to daily drive one because of that nasty fuel bill though. High performance ev's don't have that problem which is why I like them.
@@lachlanB323 V8 cars are better than some china electric crap car
@@MrTefe they also make chinese crap V8's you know
Not only do you have to wait for the dumb car to charge, but you also get in fights with other angry electric car owners. What fun!!!!
Im glad the gas pump takes just 5 minutes and doesn't slow down at all
I'm glad I can charge my car at home off my solar panels and hardly ever need to pay someone else to be able to drive my car.
@@zyebormyea you will be driving till that piece of shit catches or god forbid the battery reaches the end of its life and you will be presented with a very expensive bill. save the environment my ass
@@zyeborm I am glad I don't need to change my gas tank every 100,000 miles for 6k a pop. There are pros and cons to both and EVs have more cons then pros ATM, will probably change with more development in the near future. Wish we weren't forcefully trying to pushout gas cars, believing EVs to be better right now, even in racing applications as that is my favorite hobby.
@@zyeborm Yeah, life so nice when you're rich. Keep on sitting on that high horse, the masses like their meat nice and soft.
Hes trying to convince us to think of them as urinals.
wait we aren't supposed to piss on them?
@@owenbalzer6582why would there be a hole to drain out the urine if we weren’t supposed to use them like that?
My dog normally treats them like urinals too.
Bro everyone time he says supercharger, i think of engine superchargers😂
I love filling up instantly at the 98 pump, and then being able to drive straight away
The liberals guide to supercharging etiquette:
That's funny as shit.
I'm conservative, which stall do I go to? Between 2 cars?
@@whattheschmidtyou ram them all with your truck
@@kenny1034and then you fuck up your suspension because the shitty lift you got installed by that shady garage along with those fuel wheels and shitty ass stretched tires just gave up
i honestly always wondered how the fuck is tesla viewed as a "liberal brand" when the owner is one of the most intense conservatives out there
I’ll stick to my gasser, I can refuel in 5min & back on the road.
That sounds like such a waste of time, taking time out of your day to refuel and having to stop at all. I charge while I sleep everyday and wake up to a full battery ready to drive anywhere I need without stopping.
@ProXcaliber until you have to go past your average commute then youre stuck on side of road due to dead battery.
@@evenflo75 If you're driving more than 300 miles a day, then I think you should be looking for another job. But regardless of that, you can go to basically any v3 supercharger and go from 10% to 80% in about 15 minutes if you really need to. That is about another 250 to 270 miles of driving range in 15 minutes. Really, not that much of a hassle.
@ProXcaliber youre not taking multiple other factors into acount. Your 300 range is drastically diminished by weather, the constant ramping of amps in stop and go which creates more heat in cells, cables, lugs, whatever capacitors, contactors and motors. Damn near any technician worth any salt avoids electric. Then to top it off the stupid long battery charge wait time. O you got rapid chargers. Tell me you dont know anything about how those work and how extremely bad those are for cells, and how they shorten the life of those 10k dollar worth batteries. Not to mention there isnt a single cell on the market that has a longer then 7 year life. Compared to regular fuel youre screwed in so many ways with electric.
@@evenflo75 Weather does not have anywhere near the effect on EVs as you are making it out to be. These vehicles are all tested in different environments before they are even considered for mass production. And this includes EVs from all manufacturers and even regular gas or diesel cars. It's part of the process of making a car before selling it to people.
The stop and go of regular city driving or even driving in traffic is where an EV exceeds over a regular gas or diesel car. This is due to the simple fact that an engine has to continue running for all your things to continue working in your gas or diesel car. For example, AC, radio, lights, accessories, etc. Where an EV uses VERY little energy when stopped, even with the AC running. These vehicles are made with efficiency in mind, so all the systems in an EV are designed to use as little power as possible.
You also clearly don't know how electricity works because if what you stated is true then things like the circuits in your house wouldn't last more than a few years with constant cycling. You also don't realize that most of these batteries are warrantied for an average of 8 years or 100,000 miles, and some even more than that.
As for the fast chargers, there is actually a study conducted by multiple research firms that has shown that there is VERY little difference between fast charging and home charging. The main difference is how the battery is cared for. Meaning not charging over 80% unless necessary and even if you do charge over 80%, using some of that range within the next 24 hours.
You seem like you are behind the times on your information, and just listing off talking head anti-EV points. I'd suggest looking into the things that worry you and checking with multiple sources before coming to conclusions. Maybe also don't rely on information biases. Meaning, if you search for a concern and find one that confirms your bias, perhaps try looking at the counter to that bias for a clearer picture.
Bro is getting roasted by gas stoves in the comments RN ☠☠☠☠
It is pretty ironic there are so many people that hates EV in this comment section though, such as yourself 😊
Since I am not filthy rich I will never have this problem!
Tip- DONT BUY AN ELECTRIC CAR
Why
@@matthewsantoro4441because he is not mentally capable of handling it. EVs are only for people with an IQ over 80
I like having a full battery every morning
You can’t do that with a gas car
@@DevinSeeleyDevilOi don’t understand why that is so hyped up. Getting gas isn’t much of a hassle and you can always just take a couple jerry cans home to fill up each day.
@@_thisnameistaken Exactly, you can always fill up whenever you need to. And it doesn’t take a strain on your electric bill.
Imagine getting off a long day of work just to sit in your car for a hour while your car charges 😂
If you have to go to a station like this after a long day of work you probably shouldn't own one to begin with. Basically everyone in the EV community will tell you if you don't have a charger at home or the ability to charge it home, you shouldn't own one.
Also it doesn't take an hour. Even on one of these stations in like 20 minutes you can get half of your range back which is enough for at least 5 days of the average person's driving.
Or just drive straight home and charge it in your garage.
@@thatoneguy611 fuck that 🔥🔥
Imagin needing to go to a gas station every week or every other week because you can't fill up your car over night while sitting on your coach. ⚡️✌🏻
@@Rohwi good luck going on a long road trip and all your able to find it gas stations ⛽🤟
I can fill up my car at a gas station with 200 pumps in like a minute and the time doesn’t slow when other people decide to get gas as well
Never had that problem at the pump😂😂
Why would you?
I prefer to fill my car with 87 octane thank you
did your granpappy also prefer to ride a horse?
@@DigitalSteelelectric cars aren’t a very futuristic innovation, and they certainly aren’t to gas cars as gas cars are to horses
@@_thisnameistaken Exactly, time for people to catch up to the bare minimum don't you think?
@@DigitalSteel I understand what you are saying but by “not very futuristic”, I mean that they aren’t more advanced than gas cars and at this point in time, don’t offer significant advantages either, especially considering their higher cost and still very severe environmental impact.
@@DigitalSteel yes he did
I prefer the other type of supercharger
Too bad you probably can’t afford it 😂
@@ProXcaliber afford what?
@@ProXcaliberno need to make assumptions.
They only run the 150KW for a short time and ramp down from there, so it should not effect you charge times that much. So instead of 30 minutes it might take 40 minutes. I know on the 250kw chargers it ramps up to 250kw in the first 5% then at about 20% charge it starts to ramp down. By 50% charge you are down to 150kw. By 80% you are only charging 50kw.
Man bought a tesla and made it his whole personality 🤷🏻♂️😂✌🏻
Doesnt matter, park on the other side and plug right in. It doesnt matter if they charge on 1A and 2B, just dont use 2A or 1B.
Two spaces in between are absolutely ok, except the 3rd car has to park (and charge) directly beside them on 3A or 4B 😊
Gay Id rather get a fill at the pump and get another 400 miles for 10 minutes of wait and pump time.
Yall tesla nerds just dont live in reality where trucks are needed or something. All you know is freeways and california couldesacs or something.
“You new to the EV game?”
“Don’t talk to me, I need to focus.”
Wow, gas powered cars just get better and better.
This isn't an issue with the cars... It's a crappy design choice of power charging stations - indubitably for cost-cutting. The supply shouldn't be shared between two different stalls If it can't run at maximum capacity when connected to both. Or they ought to use the ID protocol where the station identifies the car and gives the supercharging only to the first one connected for a specified period of time..
@Mysdia If this is how refueling goes for EV owners then it's an issue with owning the cars. Takes me like 3min to put gasoline in my GX.
@@somejerk1520 Most EV owners will be charging at home or work. These stations are for emergencies or long trips, which is not your everyday car experience. You never been to a gas station where they have long lines sand bags on all the pumps, because there's a shortage? You don't have to worry about any of that charging your EV in your home garage.
@Mysdia You do when the grid is down, or the WEF decides you were a bad boy for eating a steak and now your EV won't power up or allow you to drive >5 miles from home.
@@MysdiaUnless of course they used the same code math as the installers in the video did, and that home charger can’t operate if you’re actually home and doing other things.
I feel like this video sums up Tesla owners as a whole perfectly 😂👌
Blame the customer for the companies negligence... lmao. Shouldnt have bought an inferior product
It's not negligence, this was an upgrade from the first version. This type of supercharger is now two versions old..
The first version didn't have power sharing, you just got 75 kW.
This was the next version where if there was no one beside you, you could basically also take their power.
So it was just an upgrade from that.
New stations are not only more than twice as powerful, but they don't do this type of power sharing anymore.
Also it's not an inferior product even with how it is lol
@@matthewsantoro4441man please don’t “educate” them. Make fun of or belittle them to the best of your abilities but again please never “educate” them.
That’s not no supercharger 😭 that’s a power cable for a ev
It’s called a super charger because that’s literally what it is
😂😂😂 I'm waiting for the solar van
My Audi S4 has a supercharger and I have never had any issues like this
Learned the head aches of EV charging when I was out 50 miles from home with 20 miles left. Couldn’t find a single fast charger and the few on the map were either out of service or being used when I got to them. Then had to make accounts and download apps for each one I tried. A few of them wouldn’t work at all for some reason and I had to call their customer service where they had to reset them and all this crap. Was a nightmare. Figured out the flow eventually and was able to keep it charged up full day to day but if u forget or somehow don’t get charged up once u can be in big big problems. There’s wayyyy too many slow chargers in most towns and barley any fast ones. With 3 miles left I finally got to an open V3, which was yet another brand so downloaded another app and made another account and got 50% in line a hour and half. But being out trying to get a decent amount of charge and make it home took over 5 hours. So yes I get some of the pros of EVs but with the current set up it’s just not for me. My gas car can get like 500 miles on one tank and there’s gas accessible everywhere and when there’s a gas station listed on a map, it’s actually there and works. Once EVs can get 400+ miles and can charge up to 80-90% in good time then I’ll probably get one bc I like the power / torque, I like the quiet of them. I like all the tech they tend to have over gas cars even from same brand and model, ie Benz. But right now there’s too many possible issues for ppl who are fairly busy and sometimes need to drive 150+ miles in a day, throughout the day. Gas car is just less worry and more freeing. But I will say, the charging costs are much less then gas in calI. Gas prices will push many ppl to EV when they realize they can go the same 100 miles from like 1/5th the cost….
Yep the ammount of money spent on gas infrastructure is insane. If they spent even a fraction of what was spent on getting gas to people on electric chargers it would make a huge difference.
Not when they are paying for that 100k piece of shit. Youre just figuring the cost to fill it. Theres also the cost to pay for it. Fuck that electric junk.
@@tomriley5790 You wanna know something dick WE ACTUALLY OWN GAS CARS THAT ARE GOOD why spend so much money on a trend that will be gone in 2 years big waste of tax dollars
You can always wait for a charger to be free, if let’s say there’s 5 cars charging at least one of them should be finished soon right?
Anyway I’m not getting any car at all
If this doesn't 100% convince you to NEVER buy an EV, then like electing a dem, you deserve what you get.
I drive a Tesla all throughout high school and it was actually just the perfect car. It fulfilled 95% of all my needs. I graduated 6 months ago and now have an apartment and unfortunately without being able to charge at home it makes it more of a hassle, so now I'm looking for a different car. But to say EVs are trash is dramatic
It doesn't make them trash. It just makes them 5% useless. The fact is that an automobile is not a 5% of the time it doesn't meet your needs. @@mrgman757
So I'm kind of curious what aspect of this actually genuinely bothers you? This video is basically just saying if you use an old USB port it's not going to be as fast....
Which is how it works..
For the vast majority of people the only time you will ever be at one of these stations is if you're on a road trip, the car will tell you how many stalls are available it will automatically route you to a less busy one if it can, what is the problem here lol
I don't need any of this, because whether I appear at some gas station 100 miles from anything else, or if I show up at Costco with 75 other cars, I'm 10 minutes until full. Done. I don't have to worry about the vast majority of the time. I can rely on 100% of the time. Just think if your surgeon said that 60% of the time he operates quickly. The rest of the time it is an unacceptable outcome. You can dismiss charging times, but it doesn't change reality.@@matthewsantoro4441
If you mention political parties every time anything happens, everyone is going to be 100% convinced you are a useless waste of time with no ability to comprehend reality
"don't be like this guy" doesn't explain what "this guy" was doing wrong.
Here's a tip for all of you, if anyone ever says "don't be like this guy" and refuses to elaborate, you should do your best to find out exactly what they're doing, and imitate them to the best of your ability, because they're doing something VERY right if people fail to find anything wrong with their actions despite obviously trying to do so.
Sometimes 1A and 2A are the ones that share power tho. If you plug in and dont get full power, move over one spot
These electric superchargers seem pretty crazy to me. I'll just stick to diesel and turbochargers
We probably should still look for alternative fuel though, oil is finite.
@@Bobspineable hydrogen, maybe? It has acceptable energy density and is better for the environment, but I don’t know how well it actually works in the cars that use it
@@Bobspineable you can make diesel fuel from plants. diesel engines will produce carbon so you can grow more plants. diesel is the way to go.
@@genxray951isnt the yield of diesel lower? Hydrogen is basically a product of almost any industrial process, thus far easier to obtain
@@ch4z_bucks Hydrogen storage is still being figured out. Biodiesel can be made from used cooking oil, or if you want to subsidize farmers, fresh oil. It's already being used a lot.
Biodiesel will corrode natural rubber sealing, but luckily that's not being used any more. It tends to dissolve old deposits and might clog up filters on first use. After that you just worry about water contamination and temperature…
No, no, the trick is to not buy an EV until the charging infrastructure is built out or only use an EV for short runs based around your house or business. Range anxiety is just not worth your health!
There is no range anxiety. Maybe 10 years ago there was but not anymore.
@@ProXcaliber As it is now, one charger broken or out of order and you are stuck so that is just not true.
@@sirbum1918 That is not the case anymore. A lot of EVs and chargers now have status updates when you navigate to them. For example, Tesla's navigation system tells you how many stalls are available, if any are inoperable, what the charge rate is, and what the current price is all from the screen in the car. A lot of other chargers are also like this as well now. And if you look up charger network maps, it is very easy to see just how many there are all across the country. Sure, they may not be as abundant as gas stations yet, but they are constantly expanding and adding new locations. Not to mention, if you are really in a bind, you can plug into literally any standard outlet. Or, if you have the time, you can also use a standard 240v outlet from a dryer in your home to charge faster. I live in South Florida and have family in North Carolina, and I make a trip once a month to visit. During this trip, I only need to make 4 stops, and I often pay more in tolls than I do in charging my car.
@@ProXcaliberrange anxiety does exist.
@@mrgman757 Sure, but that is called paranoia. Because those same kind of people also feel the same with a gas car or when flying on a plane. They all fall under the same category.
good thing the gas pump stays the same even when multiple are used next to eachother
I'll stick with my gas pumps a few mins and I'm ready to go
Fueling takes me 5 seconds a day and I save thousands a year but you do you.
Do you know that most EVs charge at home while they are sleeping and never visit a gas station? That means they save more time than you and don't have to pay as much as you do for gas.
@@drz6481 Save time but will take a long time before you make your money back for buying a Electric vehicle of a combustion if the EV lasts that long
@@drz6481 Ah okay, so basically just works for city people. No wonder I've never even seen an EV
I just never understand why people think electiric cars are trash lets go 100 years back people had horses but wow a new tech its called a car and it runs with diesel or gas where do i find gas what happens when you run out of gas thats just the same fkin thing
Damn that’s crazy(hops in my gas car that takes less then 5 minutes to fill up
5 minutes a week is near 4.5 hours a year you spend pumping gas. Imagine, never spending another minute pumping gas and saving near 70% by charging at home. Also consider never doing an oil change, tune up, or fan belts... and getting 50% more time on a brake job.
The V2 chargers are all updated to give the car with the lowest state of charge priority. So if you pull up next to someone that’s at 80% SOC, and you’re at 10%, then the super charger will prioritize your car, giving you a much faster rate of charge than the old 50/50 split
So fuck the guy who was there first, right?
god damn commie superchargers
I don't even think that's really a software adjustment I think that's just the fact that a car that's up at 80% can't consume that much current so it just naturally goes to the lower car
@@matthewsantoro4441 That's is the magic behind V3 Supercharger too. 3 stall share one unit, most of time not all the cars consume 250 kw but if all car arrive low charge your speed will still reduce. So it is still good to spread out in V3.
@@asiaworldcity Is it three stalls? I thought V3 actually shares four stalls that's capable of one megawatt.
I'm also hoping after the cyber truck launches they unlock some additional power with V3 by basically just introducing power sharing.
If it is three stalls or four stalls, whatever it is be able to get more power if there's fewer cars connected
For a second I thought you were talking about a real supercharger
As a disabled person and unemployed. I can't even afford a home let alone a tesla. Soooo I don't think I will ever have this problem.
Funny, I can use any gas pump I want whenever I want.
here's the thing, I have a truck and a Tesla. it takes about as long to fill the truck as my car. the difference is I very seldom need a supercharger as my car charges when im home, the truck NEEDS that gas station.
You NEED to stop, I don’t, I charge at home and don’t need to stop anywhere.
@@ProXcaliber I can also hire someone to go pump my gas. It’s the same thing. The only difference is I’m not constrained to specialized locations and be forced to stop at when I travel. It takes me 8 minutes on average to stop pump and go. I get 600+ miles in my diesel SUV. So on a 600 mile road trip it is the EV that NEEDS to stop not me.
@@ERROLS_AUTOWERKS Sure, but how often are you taking road trips for that to be a concern? And how much are you spending each time on those stops? Not to mention that diesel is often more expensive than even gasoline. You also say “specialized” locations, but there are a bunch of chargers all over the place, not to mention you can plug into basically any standard outlet too if you need to in an emergency. I make regular trips between South Florida and North Carolina to visit family about once a month, and I only make about 4 stops in total. During that trip I tend to spend more on tolls than I do to charge my car also.
@@icedout2322 Here in the UK not everyone has a driveway you can just charge up on without dragging a charging cable over the pavement. I'll be sticking with petrol.
I’ll stick with my supercharged El Camino thank you. It takes a whole 3 minutes to fill up. And where I live the pump doesn’t slow down when I’m filling up my tank.
The problem with a Tesla is that recharging will never be as fast or portable as gas. Gas just takes putting that liquid inside the car and you are done. You can even carry extra gas with you so you can refill in a minute if need be. So that's a point they might want to look into fixing.
The Tesla hate is hilarious. You charge at home during the night for $3. That gets you 300+ miles. I don’t think any of you guys drive that much in a day. Just mad about pointless things that would most likely never happen to you. But yeah if you guys validate dropping 80 bucks on gas to save time go for it.
Plus you guys act like EVs should be super efficient when they are still kinda new to the car market. How many mpg does a car from the 80s get? It takes time for things to get more efficient. Grow up
Yeah we all know this. Though, as time goes on there will be more EV vehicles on the roads and at the charging stations, then you are Sh#t out of luck if you need to get charged.
What BS. People said the same about petrol cars vs horses but it only became easier didn't it? It's becoming easier and easier.
The chargers are still really fast it's just you can be faster.
@@lachlanB323 Yes I agree. I should reworded my reply to say you may no choice at certain times and have to share with some of the charging stations that split the power with two EV vehicles connected. The charging stations will definitely get better over time and EV's will charge faster.
@@dathyr1 Fortunately that won't be the case since V3 and now v4 chargers don't have this issue.
@@dathyr1Plenty of new chargers now that dont split power
"guys don't forget half of the chargers are useless"
No they're not remotely useless they just share power. These chargers are two generations old now. The new ones are more than twice as powerful and don't power share. These are very rare stations at this point
Guy left a space… dude left two to be extra considerate…
Don't be like the guy in this post and use your brain to think before complaining😅
I’ll stick to my Challenger… Im filled up with gas and a drink in less than 10 minutes.
and while you are filling up your car every week, the tesla is already on a full charge 99% of the time since you can just plug it in at home
Or, you know, you could just pull up to a gas pump, fill up, and go about your day. 🤣
and spend $150 instead of $3
@@thewhitefalcon8539 Beats having to spend $6000 on new batteries every three years.
And the pump shuts off even before you get to order your coffee!!!
What's also cool that you don't get cancer like from the gas fumes on the pump.
Man I can use a gas pump next to another person and fill up in the same amount of time as if he wasn't there
Best choice is buy a normal car my truck has never had that issue at the pump and I can go places without stopping for hours
Found the truck guy that thinks people give a shit about his truck lifestyle. You guys are worse than Tesla owners.
But you actually pay for it
@genebickwick3746 same as electricity... only difference is one takes up a dumb amount of my time and also won't get me where I wanna be how do I go fishing hours away from anything in a testla? No charger no toy car go
@@tyler97511 tbh it’s personal preference but I’d rather spend like 50 cents then 50 bucks, because I can just just do something I was gonna do with my gas car
@genebickwick3746 Kinda sad is what it is to be honest. Electric cars are unfinished and not very practical yet still being pushed on me. They aren't environmentally friendly when the battery goes bad don't drive farther than a normal car nor are they cheaper to drive once you consider the upfront cost and longevity of the vehicle
Imagine going to a gas station and having to leave a few pumps free because if another guy fills up next to you, all the gas slows way down.
The future folks 😂
It literally does though. I notice slow pumping alll the time
That already happens lol
This is only v2. V3s manage power much better and so does ea and ev go as well.
Um, pumps at a gas station share the same mechanical pump. Same principle
@@orion6251979 except it doesnt take 30 minutes to fill up
These don't wok well in Florida when hurricanes hit.
Takes me 10 min at most to fill my 150 gallon semi truck dual tanks. Just felt like sharing that. Have good day 👍
You evil, Mother Earth hating monster! Oh but thank you for delivering every product consumed or used at my home and business.
I just fill my car with gas like God Intended.
God intended people to ride horses instead 😮
@@Tomos13 god intended people to walk😮😮😮😮😮😮😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳
@@Tomos13god intended for us to walk
Yet another reason to find god believers stupid. 😂
Imagine bringing god into this. If you believe in god then he gave us legs to walk and run with, nothing more, nothing less. Humans decided to abuse animals for transportation for thousands of years, then they decided to create earth killing machines for transportation. Give it 20-30 years and 95% of cars on the road will be electric including yours. We can accept change for the better and thats going to start with a little bit less superior technology and convenience but companies are now working on making solid state batteries affordable which will change the game and give you 800 mi range with 10 min charge times. Also about 90-98% of batteries can be recycled so in the long run it will be better to continue using batteries than oil/gas which are non renewable and there is a fininte amount of it in the world.
Didn't ask. Don't turn up in my shorts again.
Did you know that commenting shows the algorithm that you engage with this content? So it will show you more of this stuff
@@Cal-El yeah I know, but i clicked do not recommend anyways so it's probably fine
@@beamboy07 When you click that button it only stops recommending this channel in particular but it keeps showing you the same kind of content from other channels.
@@ProXcaliber i know, but i haven't had any tes content be recommended since
bro commenting and replying instead of just skipping the video 🤡
I remember when tesla came out and charging stations were all free and distributed so you could travel across the country for free😂
I don't get why he says the first image is of someone ruining supercharging for other people. Can someone explain? Because he then switches to say supercharging is allowed for one bay per two from the same terminal. Therefore the only way to ruin someone's supercharging is to park next to them. However in the first image, no one is parking next to anyone.
We out here on V3s 😂❤
Soon to be v4!
I like super chargers tool. Preferably a Roots or twin-screw type.
Roots IS a twin screw.
@@maddhatter3564 nah they’re a bit different.
@@dayeverydae ok enlighten this mechanic thats been working with turbos and blowers for 35 years.
@@maddhatter3564 they’re hella similar, but twin-screws compress the air right inside the supercharger, then sends it to the engine, while roots compresses air inside the manifold, kinda like a air pump.
@@dayeverydae that was sarcasm. They are both ROOTS style
Shows you tips on why not to buy Pos like that.
I call ecars Sizzlers and the chargers Juice Machines. I would call them Mini Motorifics, but they didn't charge and it would show how young I'm not. Yes, I still have my original Hot Wheels Sizzlers and JM
I'm good I'll just pull up pop in a card and fill up 25gallons of gas in 2 minutes.
I'm good, I'll just park at home and plug in without worrying about gas caps, static electricity, spilling, providing payment information, lines, or etc.
I do roadside assistance, it's funny to see people get upset when a big diesel shows up to save they're fancy electric car with a diesel generator to charge it. They've even tried scolding me about leaving my truck running. It's okay tho I don't charge cheap for that service and I still roll coal as I leave. Tesla's are the new Prius, only entitled Karen's and douchbags drive them. 😂😂😂😂
Over chargers and blows hazardous fumes into their face, but they're the douche bag?
@@mrgman757 yeah they are, after so long in this business you meet a lot of people on the road and you notice a pattern in people and cars. Your probably one of them that's why my comment bothers you. Complain about it all you want but the calls are gonna keep coming in.
The only person acting righteous and self-important over the fuel their car uses here is yourself.
Same with gas pumps it once took me 5 minutes to pump $40 at a old time station near me could've had a whole conversation with the guy on the other side of the pump 😂😂
Is there also a slowdown at your massage wand station when someone's charging up next door?
Meanwhile it takes me like 5 mins to go fill up a tank of gas and can use any pump as long as it's in working order
Ok
That’s too much to remember so I’ll stick to gas you can pump from any pum you want!😂
Technically it's still possible to do one every two chargers, but one car would have to park right next to them on the one that doesn't share power with theirs
One time my dad took up 2 of those Tesla parking spaces with his diesel powered jeep