What would YOU do on the river with Q♥ J♦? Your Stack (CO): 173,000 Their Stack (BB): 163,000 Pot: 223,000 Board: T♦ 8♥ 3♠ 5♣ 2♠ BB bets 100,000 A) Fold B) Call C) Raise 173,000 (all-in)
Leaving $63K behind is a good sign the guy is bluffing, i.e. he wants something left behind if you call his bluff. This is a total "time to gamble" situation. Just think, the guy could have A-3 or similar. Q-J is pretty weak. Almost like calling with J-4 off. This is like, if you're tilted you fold, if you're running well you call.
ngl, Im folding there. I have made some pretty terrible hero calls where I won the hand. But that was just because I could sense they were full of it. And I had at least a pair. And one hand I lost with king high. I was right, he didnt have it, but he still had me beat. So now I will no longer hero call with anything less than ace high. But this hand, thats one sick ass hero call. Big 🏀🏀
C. I think Tristan made an error here because there are at least 9 combos of hands (opponent can also hold QJ) that he is at least chopping with, and some trash pairs villain will have in this line that you do not beat. You have to pile it because you only lose another 60k if villain holds the nuts but you lose a massive pot if you fail to shove and he turns over 22 and says 'good call.' We all want to table the queen high or ten high and look cool, whereas we don't get to look cool if he bet-folds, and we also feel dumb shoving into the nuts, which is going to happen a lot, but mathematically, the correct play is to rebluff. If the opponent is anywhere close to balanced, or over-bluffing. If he's not balanced then you can just fold.
@@YTSparty ur right I honestly think 45k gets it done The 100 is way awkward in this spot. What hands can he go that large with that also isn’t all in? 45k looks like 8 to me looking for thin value
What a great call and hand breakdown! Reminds me of the time I was in a very similar spot at my local 2/5 game where I called the villain's river jam with queen high and he turned over quad tens.
This is a good example of reading an opponent's range almost exactly, and capitalizing by the narrowest of margins. Very scientific !!! Jonathan, could you do a tutorial on what is meant by "Equity" in poker?
This is problem with gto. Leveling then exploiting. Poker usually comes down to gut and analysis. Or even better, what the heck, I can call when I probably shouldn't then run it up.
@@PokerCoaching well since you asked. Years of experience can't be boiled down to charts. Yes on a high level of play where everyone is a robot it is OK but on the mean streets of low to mid level play where there are a lot of beginners and what I call slot players try to spin it up, it takes more old school play to survive. I do understand what you are selling and that new ideas have to evolve, gto will be replaced by the next thing like 3x was replaced.
QJ is a very poor bluffcatcher since it has 2 blockers to bluffs. I'd say herocall only if you have a good read, otherwise fold. Shoving is a big punt imo. He should be completely polar (T or better, or air), so if he has value he'll call and if he has a bluff you have the best hand anyways.
This is exactly my point about the Robbi hand!! When you make the killer hero call with Q HIGH and it is good-you get out of your chair and scream!! WHOOOO!! I got u sucka!!! But what did Robbi do? Looked like she wanted to crawl under her chair!! That’s how you react when you know your call was ridiculous and everyone’s gonna know u cheated, and you won’t be able to explain what you were thinking because what you actually were thinking was “But I got the signal that my hand was high!!!”
Not sure you have a “solid” 10 outs. Many hands when your opponent has a ten as you say, he also has a 9 or J taking away an out, and occasionally TQ, and occasionally raises with T8.
If a non pro did this people would say he is an idiot (or cheating a la Robbie). A pro gets lucky on this calll and he is called a genius. such nonsense
teach me how i can win with AA vs JJ J on river... KK vs 74 flop 356... AA vs 1010... KK vs 1010.. AK vs QK Q turn....teach me..this are hands of today..tomorrow will be same.-.....stupid sh1it of internet
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What would YOU do on the river with Q♥ J♦?
Your Stack (CO): 173,000
Their Stack (BB): 163,000
Pot: 223,000
Board: T♦ 8♥ 3♠ 5♣ 2♠
BB bets 100,000
A) Fold
B) Call
C) Raise 173,000 (all-in)
Leaving $63K behind is a good sign the guy is bluffing, i.e. he wants something left behind if you call his bluff. This is a total "time to gamble" situation. Just think, the guy could have A-3 or similar. Q-J is pretty weak. Almost like calling with J-4 off. This is like, if you're tilted you fold, if you're running well you call.
ngl, Im folding there.
I have made some pretty terrible hero calls where I won the hand. But that was just because I could sense they were full of it. And I had at least a pair.
And one hand I lost with king high. I was right, he didnt have it, but he still had me beat. So now I will no longer hero call with anything less than ace high.
But this hand, thats one sick ass hero call.
Big 🏀🏀
C. I think Tristan made an error here because there are at least 9 combos of hands (opponent can also hold QJ) that he is at least chopping with, and some trash pairs villain will have in this line that you do not beat. You have to pile it because you only lose another 60k if villain holds the nuts but you lose a massive pot if you fail to shove and he turns over 22 and says 'good call.' We all want to table the queen high or ten high and look cool, whereas we don't get to look cool if he bet-folds, and we also feel dumb shoving into the nuts, which is going to happen a lot, but mathematically, the correct play is to rebluff. If the opponent is anywhere close to balanced, or over-bluffing. If he's not balanced then you can just fold.
@@YTSparty ur right
I honestly think 45k gets it done
The 100 is way awkward in this spot. What hands can he go that large with that also isn’t all in?
45k looks like 8 to me looking for thin value
QQ vs JJ river J......how many 2 outers have this motherfukers?
What a great call and hand breakdown! Reminds me of the time I was in a very similar spot at my local 2/5 game where I called the villain's river jam with queen high and he turned over quad tens.
So what you're saying is, you were right and he was extremely polarized.
Editor deserves a raise for this one.
the hearts for the 69s.... :(
I once called a guy in a cash game for a pot sized river lead with Q high in a very similar scenario and was right and he lost his mind lol
Robbi, is that you?
Nobody believes you.
I believe Tristan had a helper in the back signaling to him that he was good to call with Q high….
This is a good example of reading an opponent's range almost exactly, and capitalizing by the narrowest of margins. Very scientific !!!
Jonathan, could you do a tutorial on what is meant by "Equity" in poker?
Yay Tristan!! Great team up, guys.
Absolute beast call
Queen high call takes some guts to call . Well done to guy next to JL
good editing in this video
Gutsy call my dude. Nice one!
Sick call. Damn.
Nice memey edit stuff in the beginning 😂🎉
Great one, love it
Genius uncanny read ! Thanks !
If an amateur made this call he-she was propably cheating :). Nice video and a sick hero call!!!
This is problem with gto. Leveling then exploiting. Poker usually comes down to gut and analysis. Or even better, what the heck, I can call when I probably shouldn't then run it up.
I am not sure why that is a problem with GTO.
@@PokerCoaching well since you asked. Years of experience can't be boiled down to charts. Yes on a high level of play where everyone is a robot it is OK but on the mean streets of low to mid level play where there are a lot of beginners and what I call slot players try to spin it up, it takes more old school play to survive. I do understand what you are selling and that new ideas have to evolve, gto will be replaced by the next thing like 3x was replaced.
Fabulous call!
QJ is a very poor bluffcatcher since it has 2 blockers to bluffs. I'd say herocall only if you have a good read, otherwise fold.
Shoving is a big punt imo. He should be completely polar (T or better, or air), so if he has value he'll call and if he has a bluff you have the best hand anyways.
Yeah but by the same token he's also blocking value (QT, JT) and BB has all the offsuit bluff combos
His opponent should have shoved before the river. Totally misplayed an open ended flop draw
Editor came to play today.
This is exactly my point about the Robbi hand!! When you make the killer hero call with Q HIGH and it is good-you get out of your chair and scream!! WHOOOO!! I got u sucka!!!
But what did Robbi do? Looked like she wanted to crawl under her chair!! That’s how you react when you know your call was ridiculous and everyone’s gonna know u cheated, and you won’t be able to explain what you were thinking because what you actually were thinking was “But I got the signal that my hand was high!!!”
RobbI is an incompetent recreational player. This dude isn't.
@@kephartacus5454 he's a pro and he scream when the call is right... but the recreational keep calm like nothing after wining 300k$ with J high jajaja
Almost a 'Robbi'
Great hand 😎
Not sure you have a “solid” 10 outs. Many hands when your opponent has a ten as you say, he also has a 9 or J taking away an out, and occasionally TQ, and occasionally raises with T8.
Regarding the leveling war.... did he KNOW you were a good player???!!!
witchcraft. pure witchcraft. Love it.
When Tristan Tate is coaching
Queen high like a boss.
Not 🚫 crazy 😧 about the call 🤙📞
Calling with a hand that sometimes can't beat a bluff.
lol great hand
Now all of a sudden everyone in the chat has a Q high story to share😅🎉😊
Bold.
Wait.... Q high call for a 323k pot and you put villain on a worse draw!!! Sounds similar to something I've heard before?!! LOL.... just kidding
I dont like your analysis of this hand?
This is what happens when BOTH players totally misplay a hand... things get ugly fast!
I would have checked behind on that flop, your losing money in the long run.
These thumbnails are stupid
If a non pro did this people would say he is an idiot (or cheating a la Robbie). A pro gets lucky on this calll and he is called a genius. such nonsense
Not the same thing as Robbie. Robbie's hand actually lost to most bluffs. Here, QJ beats all missed draws.
teach me how i can win with AA vs JJ J on river... KK vs 74 flop 356... AA vs 1010... KK vs 1010.. AK vs QK Q turn....teach me..this are hands of today..tomorrow will be same.-.....stupid sh1it of internet