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^why would your partner care about you spending half of your paycheck for your 20th guitar? Imagine your girlfriend spending half of her paycheck on some limited edition make up set or something while she had 20 others laying around unused (I know, sexist, just an example tho). You'd probably at least mock her for it.
I live in the same city as Ormsby, at our local music shop they had their own section for awhile. We pay massive overheads on US and UK Made music gear as well as just about everything else. So it was kind of funny to finally have one back on the rest of the world.
I’ve never even heard of Ormsby until I came across your channel. I’ve always wanted an Ernie Ball Musicman or a Strandsberg as my next guitar and you have been making me really reconsider this. Of course, when this is feasible in my life. Lol Wouldn’t mind hearing your opinion on more guitars in general. You have really good in-depth reviews.
I have both a Strandy and an Ormsby and I find myself reaching for my Strandy the most especially because of the endurneck, but the Ormsby is comfy too and is a blast to play
@@HenryhyphenS Unfortunately, I live in a rural town and the shop here is partnered with Fender. I wanted the Majesty in particular as I grew up inspired (like many others) by John Petrucci. But multiscaled guitars have really intrigued my interest.
@@chickenpasta7359 I’ve heard good things about Strandberg’s necks. I heard one complaint about bar chords becoming uncomfortable after playing awhile. Ever notice this? Strandbergs and Keisel guitars have an additional “fret 0” to help with action. Would you personally say that this additional fret makes a difference?
@@KeanuChrist I have a ormsby hype gtr 7 run 6 with the natural finish. It's the best guitar I've ever played and I played a 4000€ Jp mayesty before. I drove 300km with the train trough my country just to buy this guitar used from somebody and did not regret it. If you like Ibanez guitars and can live with a little bit chunkier but also more comfortable playable neck, just buy ormsby. Got mine used for 1250 in practically new condition.
I like the fact that it is so light weight. I have neck and shoulder problems in part due to playing heavier guitars when I was younger so I think you’re being smart by using something light weight. I would be interested in something like that with more vintage pick ups and a regular scale length.
@@DMSProduktionsweight has nothing to do with neck dive, and I'd love to know where you got this info. I've moved to an 8 pound soloist, and a 12 pound km7 with a 26.5 scale length, from multiple 15 pounds dinky style Jacksons, I've noticed no major difference, except the lightweight soloist seems even more balanced, and never had a dive issue with that, the km7 or the dinky..... Then you can compare two similar length guitars that are lightweight..... Fender mustangs, Japan models come in at a little over 7 pounds with a short scale, with a newer Gibson sg, at 8.2 pounds, and a fairly short scale.... Mustangs have no neck dive, while the sg still has some problems. It's all the balance.... Much of the balance equates to having the strap holders placed in a great location.... It's all balance. It doesn't matter if a guitar weighs 30 pounds or 5 pounds.
@@JamesWilson01 my buddy used to always play like that....I tried using his guitar and not messing with his strap..... Despite having longer arms and a couple of inches taller than him, I still couldn't figure out how he did it...I had to adjust.🤣🤣🤣
Man, you should have many many more subs. IMHO. What a beautiful guitar. Man, you were getting sone great pings / harmonics out of that guitar when you went to distortion. Very cool. It sounds killer. Regards from the heartland USA. Tim.
Nice overview! I’ve been digging your videos. Perry is a great guy and I can’t wait to order my first Ormsby from him. Extra kudos for the Saxon riffs!
I feel like Ormsby are very much in the same category as the other random guitar builders that all popped up in the last few years. They're certainly held in high regard and fulfil a certain niche toolset. I wasn't a fan of the pickups in the ones I've played though. One was a production model and the other was a custom shop display model. The caparison I played was much more suited for what I was looking for. However Australia does very clearly make amazing instruments. My dream acoustic is a Maton JB signature model.
Ormsby has been around for awhile, but they're starting to get more attention, because you're not going to get that same hand built quality without paying double the price elsewhere, usually, and to get a hand built with good sound quality to boot. That said, I can see were you're coming from with the pickups, for some people, and being they're one of the first heavily fan fretted companies, I can see where the lack of aftermarket pickups could scare someone away. Now allot of companies are following suit, with these multiscale, so I expect that to help popularity to grow, because brand like schecter now have multi scale versions of their high end American custom model pickups.
@@williamkramer9731 Oh of course. The whole Ormsby thing isn't for me and that's what I was getting at. They're still obviously very good instruments, just with a few kinks to work on. Same as any company I'd imagine. And of course in my specific case, aftermarket pickups are one of the easier retrofits. I agree with you about their price point, very comfortable in that area. Compared to the others.
I don't remember watching this video bit it looks like I only got halfway through before heading over to ormsbys website. Got my deposit in and I'll have my guitar sometime in a few months. Seems to be worth the wait!
Curious if you have an opinion on Warwick & Framus guitars. Most of my musician friends have either never played one or haven't had a ton of experience with them.
@@joonapuurunen5602 If you have your own money, you can do with it as you please, short of bringing hookers into your parents home. I understand parents have rules, but I'll never understand anyone who controls someone else's money, especially if you've earned it yourself by working.
Consider also that Blackmachine no longer are taking orders for new instruments. They still have a website but.....the last I heard in 2019 they were nearing the end of their wood supply they used to build their instruments and once they were out it appeared they were stopping production. I'm not sure if it was a "we don't want to build instruments with anything less than the best woods" (they seemed proud of their supply of over 50 year old wood) or if they just were unable to procure new suitable timbers for their production process. Or running a guitar business is a tough business. Also, demand far exceeded supply even when they were at full production. It's sort of like a parallel to what you see in the amp world with Dumble amps and all of the clones. Capitalism seems to do this kind of thing. How many companies build strat, tele and les paul derivatives? You get my point.
@@aliensporebomb I have no problem with picking up the aesthetic, you're absolutely right about strats, etc... This is just a new standard format in what a guitar looks like. It's talking shit about the hype while trading on the hype that bothers me.
Didn't Perry literally copy practically all the Blackmachine design, including the headstocks? I certainly am no expert on the subject, and as you mentioned Ormsby isn't the only company that filled the BM void, however it seems that the similarities between the two are a wee bit too much. I originally thought this video might finally be drawing attention to this issue, after all I've heard about it here stateside.
As far as I know, both Blackmachine and Ormsby have been open about where they took the headstock idea from. Both say they were influenced by the Parker Fly which had been around since the early 90’s
@@KDH Perry Ormsby made it onto my personal Facebook block list for being an absolute dickhead over a design build I sent him. Told me I was an "elitist shill" a "paid troll" when I declined to go thru with my model design, after HE made changes that I didn't want made. He then relentlessly messaged me asking which brand I worked with, who I was being paid by, etc. when it was his ineptitude, lack of communication, and all around attitude that lost him my business. He made my guitar a bolt on (was neck thru) , and used house brand pickups instead of EMGs, and when he sent me pictures and I called it out, he made a huge deal about how inferior my choices were. As a customer, I don't care if my idea for a neck thru "makes the tone too dark" that's my choice, and you gave me the option during the design process. I don't care if EMG's are "too compressed" I like the way they sound, and again, you put the option there for me to choose, why criticize it? Just... stupid business practices like that. He got pissed that I ordered the guitar, and then charged back because it wasn't the guitar I ordered... like yeah man if you order a pizza and a burger shows up, you're gonna call the pizza place and ask what the fuck happened. Later I found out he couldn't make the guitar within his profit margins, because neck thrus are hard to make, so he cut corners hoping I wouldn't notice, all the while keeping the price exactly the same. Don't do custom orders with Perry, he's an absolute asshole and has a "my way or the highway" mentality that may work with manufacturers and employees, but it absolutely does not work with customers, he doesn't give a fuck about customers choices in any way. He wants to make the guitars he wants to make, and he wants to turn all the guitars he doesn't want to make, into guitars he'd rather make, because they're more profitable. I'd sooner buy a Gibson than an Ormsby.
assuming your amp set up doesn't change from video to video, the tone of the SX certainly isn't going to be for everyone. Its thin sounding clean and abrasive on high gain, although the neck sounded good, but not special, with some gain. This kind of guitar needs a better bridge pickup, and the split was just awful.
I just had my 5th Ormsby guitar today with the added bonus that the GF didn't see it arrive.
It’s always a good day when you can sneak a new guitar in past the gf 😂😂 been there
Why would your gf care about your finances. You're not married. You need to sack up.
^why would your partner care about you spending half of your paycheck for your 20th guitar? Imagine your girlfriend spending half of her paycheck on some limited edition make up set or something while she had 20 others laying around unused (I know, sexist, just an example tho). You'd probably at least mock her for it.
@@aw2584 if you let a woman tell you how to spend the money you earned then you're part of the problem
@@aw2584 Not really. If she wants to spend her money on it and it makes her happy, why would I mock her? Especially if she's using her own money
I live in the same city as Ormsby, at our local music shop they had their own section for awhile. We pay massive overheads on US and UK Made music gear as well as just about everything else. So it was kind of funny to finally have one back on the rest of the world.
I’m a simple man. I see a KDH video about a guitar I’m not even really interested in, and I click like and watch.
I have several Ormsby Hype series guitars. By far my favorite shred style instruments.
I’ve never even heard of Ormsby until I came across your channel. I’ve always wanted an Ernie Ball Musicman or a Strandsberg as my next guitar and you have been making me really reconsider this. Of course, when this is feasible in my life. Lol
Wouldn’t mind hearing your opinion on more guitars in general. You have really good in-depth reviews.
If you can try and play a guitar before hand that is really the only way to ‘know’ if you will like something. Do you already own a music man guitar?
I have both a Strandy and an Ormsby and I find myself reaching for my Strandy the most especially because of the endurneck, but the Ormsby is comfy too and is a blast to play
@@HenryhyphenS Unfortunately, I live in a rural town and the shop here is partnered with Fender. I wanted the Majesty in particular as I grew up inspired (like many others) by John Petrucci. But multiscaled guitars have really intrigued my interest.
@@chickenpasta7359 I’ve heard good things about Strandberg’s necks. I heard one complaint about bar chords becoming uncomfortable after playing awhile. Ever notice this?
Strandbergs and Keisel guitars have an additional “fret 0” to help with action. Would you personally say that this additional fret makes a difference?
@@KeanuChrist I have a ormsby hype gtr 7 run 6 with the natural finish. It's the best guitar I've ever played and I played a 4000€ Jp mayesty before. I drove 300km with the train trough my country just to buy this guitar used from somebody and did not regret it.
If you like Ibanez guitars and can live with a little bit chunkier but also more comfortable playable neck, just buy ormsby.
Got mine used for 1250 in practically new condition.
That split single bridge sound is phenomenal. And, if that case was in a pub I'd buy it a pint for a job well done.
Loved the aussie AI voice over you chose bhaha
4:17 - Denim & Leather - bravo sir! Very well played!
Yeeeaaaahh SAXON! That Ormsby sound like a Mack truck. Just stunning.
I like the fact that it is so light weight. I have neck and shoulder problems in part due to playing heavier guitars when I was younger so I think you’re being smart by using something light weight. I would be interested in something like that with more vintage pick ups and a regular scale length.
Another pro tip is not to hang the guitar down by your knees (unless it's an important gig where you have to look ultra-badass, of course 🤣)
But too light also means NECK DIIIIVVE!
@@DMSProduktionsweight has nothing to do with neck dive, and I'd love to know where you got this info. I've moved to an 8 pound soloist, and a 12 pound km7 with a 26.5 scale length, from multiple 15 pounds dinky style Jacksons, I've noticed no major difference, except the lightweight soloist seems even more balanced, and never had a dive issue with that, the km7 or the dinky..... Then you can compare two similar length guitars that are lightweight..... Fender mustangs, Japan models come in at a little over 7 pounds with a short scale, with a newer Gibson sg, at 8.2 pounds, and a fairly short scale.... Mustangs have no neck dive, while the sg still has some problems. It's all the balance.... Much of the balance equates to having the strap holders placed in a great location.... It's all balance. It doesn't matter if a guitar weighs 30 pounds or 5 pounds.
@@JamesWilson01 my buddy used to always play like that....I tried using his guitar and not messing with his strap..... Despite having longer arms and a couple of inches taller than him, I still couldn't figure out how he did it...I had to adjust.🤣🤣🤣
@@williamkramer9731 Pfft! Fuck me!
*Wow, that's the first thing that's managed to escape from Aus in 18 months or so!* 😉
Man, you should have many many more subs. IMHO.
What a beautiful guitar. Man, you were getting sone great pings / harmonics out of that guitar when you went to distortion. Very cool. It sounds killer.
Regards from the heartland USA.
Tim.
ever since I subscribed you've been tempting me with these ormsbys man
I love Ormsby so much . I have 2 hype GTR . They both are my favorite guitars
I love the tone you had between 3:40 and 3:46.
Nice overview! I’ve been digging your videos. Perry is a great guy and I can’t wait to order my first Ormsby from him. Extra kudos for the Saxon riffs!
Denim and leather was one of the first riffs I learned!
That is a gorgeous instrument right there.
I feel like Ormsby are very much in the same category as the other random guitar builders that all popped up in the last few years. They're certainly held in high regard and fulfil a certain niche toolset. I wasn't a fan of the pickups in the ones I've played though. One was a production model and the other was a custom shop display model. The caparison I played was much more suited for what I was looking for. However Australia does very clearly make amazing instruments. My dream acoustic is a Maton JB signature model.
Ormsby has been around for awhile, but they're starting to get more attention, because you're not going to get that same hand built quality without paying double the price elsewhere, usually, and to get a hand built with good sound quality to boot. That said, I can see were you're coming from with the pickups, for some people, and being they're one of the first heavily fan fretted companies, I can see where the lack of aftermarket pickups could scare someone away. Now allot of companies are following suit, with these multiscale, so I expect that to help popularity to grow, because brand like schecter now have multi scale versions of their high end American custom model pickups.
@@williamkramer9731 Oh of course. The whole Ormsby thing isn't for me and that's what I was getting at. They're still obviously very good instruments, just with a few kinks to work on. Same as any company I'd imagine. And of course in my specific case, aftermarket pickups are one of the easier retrofits. I agree with you about their price point, very comfortable in that area. Compared to the others.
Denim and leather👍
I could listen to a 1-hour loop of that clean riff at 4:09.
So glad I can afford one... The keychain, obviously.
It's nice YOU LIKE Aussie made guitars! Rock on! \m/
I remember being on the Cannibal Corpse forum in the early 2000's and the admin was in love with Black Machine Guitars.
"Belial" if anyone gives a shit. I was on there forever.
I don't remember watching this video bit it looks like I only got halfway through before heading over to ormsbys website. Got my deposit in and I'll have my guitar sometime in a few months. Seems to be worth the wait!
Nice looking guitar.
Beautiful guitar and sounds great .
The guitar looks great but terrifying. I can’t even play one with normal frets. What Hope have I got with this offset stuff. Great vid as per usual
It takes a very small amount of time to adjust. I tried one out in a guitar shop, took me about 20 minutes to adjust.
Now that's a nice-looking guitar 😍
Nissssssssssssssssssce 🍻
Beautiful guitar 🎸
Ive got one too
But its red and yellow. Same year. Namm
Just got my shark goliath 7 and man it slaps
Man you must have sniped the Facebook group ultra hard
What does this even mean
Curious if you have an opinion on Warwick & Framus guitars. Most of my musician friends have either never played one or haven't had a ton of experience with them.
I own a Warwick bass. It’s a very nice instrument
@@KDH excellent! Thank you for your input and your time.
Is this a modern Parker fly ?
Nice review. Dave Haley from Aussie band Psycroptic plays an Ormsby exclusively. Check him out...he is an amazing player.
Joe Haley ;). He also has a signature Ormsby which is hopefully being shipped to customers by July *fingers crossed*
Awwwwwww ... good ol' Saxon ...
I wish I could afford something like this.
Someday friend 💪🏼
@@MadGunny maybe. But as long as I live with my parents they wouldn't allow me to do it even if I had the money for it. And 2k is a lot for a guitar
@@joonapuurunen5602 If you have your own money, you can do with it as you please, short of bringing hookers into your parents home. I understand parents have rules, but I'll never understand anyone who controls someone else's money, especially if you've earned it yourself by working.
@@joonapuurunen5602 Time for your own private bank account bro
@@nckhed but 2k is still too much for a guitar.
When someone makes a knock-off and names it to make fun of what they're copying that somehow doesn't inspire me to give them my money.
How is it a knock off? Different body shape, different headstock shape and multi scale. Oh and 10 times cheaper.
@@evilution_ltd Explaining this is literally the first thing he does in the video. If your going to fanboy, at least pay attention.
Consider also that Blackmachine no longer are taking orders for new instruments. They still have a website but.....the last I heard in 2019 they were nearing the end of their wood supply they used to build their instruments and once they were out it appeared they were stopping production. I'm not sure if it was a "we don't want to build instruments with anything less than the best woods" (they seemed proud of their supply of over 50 year old wood) or if they just were unable to procure new suitable timbers for their production process. Or running a guitar business is a tough business. Also, demand far exceeded supply even when they were at full production. It's sort of like a parallel to what you see in the amp world with Dumble amps and all of the clones. Capitalism seems to do this kind of thing. How many companies build strat, tele and les paul derivatives? You get my point.
@@aliensporebomb I have no problem with picking up the aesthetic, you're absolutely right about strats, etc... This is just a new standard format in what a guitar looks like. It's talking shit about the hype while trading on the hype that bothers me.
Blackmachine was heavily influced by Parker Fly.
You need new orings on the knobs
I remember the collective whining from the douchey boutique guitar community when Perry revealed the HypeMachine.
Saxon denim and leather!!! Alright
not baddd
✌🏼❤🤘🏼
Denimmmm aaannnddd LEEEAAATTTHHHEEERRRRRR
Didn't Perry literally copy practically all the Blackmachine design, including the headstocks?
I certainly am no expert on the subject, and as you mentioned Ormsby isn't the only company that filled the BM void, however it seems that the similarities between the two are a wee bit too much.
I originally thought this video might finally be drawing attention to this issue, after all I've heard about it here stateside.
As far as I know, both Blackmachine and Ormsby have been open about where they took the headstock idea from.
Both say they were influenced by the Parker Fly which had been around since the early 90’s
@@KDH Perry Ormsby made it onto my personal Facebook block list for being an absolute dickhead over a design build I sent him. Told me I was an "elitist shill" a "paid troll" when I declined to go thru with my model design, after HE made changes that I didn't want made. He then relentlessly messaged me asking which brand I worked with, who I was being paid by, etc. when it was his ineptitude, lack of communication, and all around attitude that lost him my business.
He made my guitar a bolt on (was neck thru) , and used house brand pickups instead of EMGs, and when he sent me pictures and I called it out, he made a huge deal about how inferior my choices were. As a customer, I don't care if my idea for a neck thru "makes the tone too dark" that's my choice, and you gave me the option during the design process. I don't care if EMG's are "too compressed" I like the way they sound, and again, you put the option there for me to choose, why criticize it? Just... stupid business practices like that.
He got pissed that I ordered the guitar, and then charged back because it wasn't the guitar I ordered... like yeah man if you order a pizza and a burger shows up, you're gonna call the pizza place and ask what the fuck happened.
Later I found out he couldn't make the guitar within his profit margins, because neck thrus are hard to make, so he cut corners hoping I wouldn't notice, all the while keeping the price exactly the same.
Don't do custom orders with Perry, he's an absolute asshole and has a "my way or the highway" mentality that may work with manufacturers and employees, but it absolutely does not work with customers, he doesn't give a fuck about customers choices in any way. He wants to make the guitars he wants to make, and he wants to turn all the guitars he doesn't want to make, into guitars he'd rather make, because they're more profitable.
I'd sooner buy a Gibson than an Ormsby.
Yay Australia. 🌏🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🎸❤️
Quite a bit of fret buzz on the clean sounds, eh? Needs a bit of setup?
Nice fretbuzzzzz....(clean)
austria
but if people can build their own guitars, how will scalpers make money? 😥😥😥😥😥
i gotta stop watching your vids, youre making me want to buy a third ormsby
I’d be pissed at that shipper
assuming your amp set up doesn't change from video to video, the tone of the SX certainly isn't going to be for everyone. Its thin sounding clean and abrasive on high gain, although the neck sounded good, but not special, with some gain. This kind of guitar needs a better bridge pickup, and the split was just awful.
I bet that the cheapest guitar in his collection is better than my life
Ps: my life is very bad