I’m going to assume that Azure and the others were unaware that Wukong was trapped under a mountain for 500 years and was wearing a skull crushing crown to prevent him from being murderous
kinda, the way the crown works is that if Wukong was being a jackass to the great monk and he spoke a certain word or he got to far away from the monk, the crown would begin to tighten on Wukong's head, if it wasn't released it could in theory crush even Wukongs skull. Not a fun punishment but it was the one he was saddled with, however he had to put it on willingly, so he was tricked into wearing it.
If Azure Lion is MK's uncle then so is DBK, right? Hell, that would make Macaque his uncle... MK has a lot of sworn uncles, even if Wukong isn't his dad
I both love and slightly hate him. Azure is such a good, sweet guy but him being neutral evil, I'm so torn. Ugh~~ why~~? I want him stay alive and hopefully reform somehow as series progresses.
@@jjsok4288if i'm not mistaken, some academic interpretation of original JJTW purposely made Jade Emperor as petty because Wu Cheng'en meant to ridicule Taoism since Jade Emperor was an actual taoist king. I think, that's maybe the reason?
Best thing is that he's not talking shit there, Azure really has no idea what it means to be the Jade Emperor, he finds out the hard way, and it's only gonna get worse.
this. This is how you write an antagonist that’s actually consistent. Azure never takes his eyes off his motivation, his ideals. Even after obtaining divine power, he stays consistent and doesn’t suddenly become irredeemable for the sake of a dramatic finale. More of this please
Dude voices Zoro, All Might, Piccolo, Jigen, Major Armstrong, Vegeta (and a bajillion Dragon Ball Characters) and like 100,000,000 more characters. He’s haunting me.
Being too involved or not too involved with mortals can both be bad. There needs to be a balance. Azure wants to get more involved with the mortals... perhaps a bit TOO much....
Lets seee it in this way: If a father helps a child with everything, the child will become spoiled, dependent, and will not know how to develop on his own. but if you give the child some freedom so that he solves his own problems, the child will grow up independently, he will not need the father for everything
yeah he's plans aren't EVIL so i prefer him being just an antagonist Also why he's my flavored, also some fictions always portrait gods being the enemy or just bad guys, one of the reasons I fell bad for Azure
Ite evil because communism is evil. Nah just kidding, although I think Azure Lion is misguided. He sees the root of the problem but has the wrong solution, The Jade Emperor is bad but so would any other ruler so why would Azure Lion be any different? The issue isn't "bad kings lead to bad times" its that "kings are a bad idea to begin with" infact one could argue that putting anybody in any sort of authority above anyone is a bad idea especially if it is unearned power. I think a doctor has the authority on what is to be done (within the context of their field, which is medicine) because they have studied their entire life in that field and should be taken seriously so it isn't coercive power, but a king, a governor, a vanguard leader, a CEO, a dictator, a tyrannty, a supreme leader deciding how people should live their lives who should get their share of the resources is the fuckin' issue. In real life it makes no sense because there is plenty of land and resources to go around, especially if we actually cared and looked after another, but our current system incentivizes individuality through artificial scarcity. Azure Lion was going somewhere but he foolishly thinks he can lead better, when the celestial court in it's entirety must be disbanded and the collective will of the people should govern itself with no gods or masters.
Azure isn't wrong but he doesn't see the whole picture and the sacrifices being made for balance in the universe. When he took over it was immediately too much for him showing he was never ready for it, 22:22 even the Jade Emperor didn't deny him he just asked if he was sure if this is what he wanted or if someone was playing him. The only cruel thing here is that his brothers never helped him second guess this whole endeavor and Golden Tusk was the real reason for his demise. Azure needed his on MK.
Eh yes and no. Yeah the Jade Emperor doesn't help the world directly. Intervening in wars or helping to deal with issues the people face. Buuuuuttt... when your job is literally maintaining the balance of all of time, space, dimension, etc, you can't really afford to stop and help with everything. Especially if no one else can do the job. So technically he's kinda helping. Indirectly.
It's incredible how perfect this series is at crafting understandable characters, so many characters from this show I've found true connections and care for: MK, Wukong, Mei, Red Son, Tang, Macaque, and the newest addition, Azure Lion
You know I don't think azure Lion knows what the Buddha did to sun wukong the last time he stepped to the heavens It's not even the Jade emperor he should be worried about He should be worried about pissing off the Buddha because once the Buddha decides to intervene that's when you know something bad happened
what i wanna know is why are the villains actuallly having good points and fighting for something more than themselves? seems to be that it is wukong, the emperor,ect. that are 'evil' by nature,.. seems to be that lady bone demon and azure were in the right
my guess? is that they had right ideas but they take it to the worst extremes. it’s a “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” thing. Lady Bone Demon wanted to get rid of everything bad in the world, all the corruption, but her way of doing it was flawed in that she understood her prized method had to be to kill EVERYTHING, good and bad together. She wasn’t gonna spare anyone and her methods were cruel, so she went too far. Azure Lion wanted to make the world a better place as well, and he desired to make a paradise for all, for there to be no suffering or strife. Unfortunately, reality isn’t so idealistic. His methods were sacrificing surrounding life for a paradise, hence why Wukong was sent to take down Camel Ridge. It wasn’t a paradise, it was a parasite. Azure’s reckless naivety on the nature of the world then turned him to realize, far too soon, the consequences of his actions. The world wasn’t as black and white as he wanted it to be, and in his fight to create something more, and better, he became the very force of destruction he was hoping he wouldn’t be. The worst part is, he knew this, and refused to face it until the consequences were tearing him apart, and breaking his world around him.
OK.. MAYBE I need to rewatch some episode but why is Macaque not in ANY of these flashbacks?! They've already shown he was there with them, but No One mentions him! Not DBK or Azure Lion, I know Peng didn't like him but did they just ignore him or what?? Did they know what Wukong did to him?
Its super confusing, its IMPLIED Wukong killed him. Because thats from the original and Macaque was in the underworld where LBD got him.. so somehow he died.. but if you look at the flashbacks, it looked like he was chained by something and Wukong hit him.. maybe he was trying to seal him but something went wrong?? Maybe Im thinking too much, its a kids show but I need details. Wheres Season 5??
I think this is because Macaque isn't a reliable narrator,just like Azure Lion Demon.His stories might have some truth in it that matches with others' versions,but it's twisted.All we know about him is all from his words and a few sneak peeks.Until someone else say something about him (especially Wukong),we can't be too sure. In my opinion though,he could be chained as torture in the underworld.And it would be interesting to make him actually be true to the og novel lore,to make it full circle on the 'Wukong wasnt always a hero' thing.
My heart why couldn't Ezra be alive only one that had such a good way of being even if you betrayed us even though I knew it all along he was too nice it kind of gave it away.
I actually really didn't like Azure from the start i had a key feeling he was suspicious and i was right but the fight between mk and him made me feel a bit sad for him still he eas one if the bwst villain out there in my opinion
I'll check the song out, see if I can whip something together. (Edit) of course it had to be edge bait, I'll see what I can do, couldn't pick a more lion oriented song?
I’m going to assume that Azure and the others were unaware that Wukong was trapped under a mountain for 500 years and was wearing a skull crushing crown to prevent him from being murderous
Macaque knew though
@@BigBrainMK-ol6zkMaybe Because he left after Wukong betrayed them
THE CROWN WAS SKULL CRUSHING?!?
@@Majger0180 yep. Check out online or Overly Sarcastic Productions
kinda, the way the crown works is that if Wukong was being a jackass to the great monk and he spoke a certain word or he got to far away from the monk, the crown would begin to tighten on Wukong's head, if it wasn't released it could in theory crush even Wukongs skull. Not a fun punishment but it was the one he was saddled with, however he had to put it on willingly, so he was tricked into wearing it.
I never knew the voice of this Azure Lion was the same voice of All Might, Vegeta and Piccolo
Yeah, Chris Sabat. Which makes his relationship with Wukong even funnier, considering the monkey is voiced by Sean Schemmel AKA Son Goku.
wait chris sabat voices him too? i didn’t know that. all i know is that sun wukong was voiced by sean schemmel who also voices goku. that’s ironic.
Don't forget Zoro (one piece) and Yami (Black clover)
I can't get the image out of my head of Azure Lion with All Mights face and saying, "I AM HERE!"
I can hear All Might now
RIP Red son he didn’t deserve to lose his family
poor man’s already had a pretty shit home life now he doesn’t even have that 😭😭
Wait how did he die🤨
@@enkhtemuulenodgerel6175 hes not dead
16:12 bro really said "keep my wife's name out ya f**kin mouth"
Lol😂
Honestly, he was so right for that. Those are GOALS
If Azure Lion is MK's uncle then so is DBK, right? Hell, that would make Macaque his uncle... MK has a lot of sworn uncles, even if Wukong isn't his dad
Moreover, that would make Red Son his sworn cousin
In JTTW Sun Wukong actually saw himself as Red Boy's uncle because of his friendship with Demon Bull King.
I hope they mention that in s5 if monkey king turned out to be MK’s dad
@@gibsbefilming omg yes
@@gibsbefilming the spicynoodles shippers are crying rn reading this
I feel that Wukong being turned on the demons was truly traumatizing for Azure Lion.
I find it hilarious when Sean's Goku and Chris' Vegeta come out radomly.
I'm convinced it's just their natural voices
6:40 I’ll alway love Azure for that part
I both love and slightly hate him. Azure is such a good, sweet guy but him being neutral evil, I'm so torn. Ugh~~ why~~? I want him stay alive and hopefully reform somehow as series progresses.
I think he is just like demon bull king in season 5 we see a new villan who controls azure and he/she will be the mastermind
He dead
He wanted too much too soon and challenged God so yeah he had to go. It's sad but he did too much. Too bad he didn't have his own MK.
He dead.
@@10RexTheWolf01 truer words have not been said yet.
22:00 Okay imma just say it cause nobody else does, the Jade Emperor's speech is one of the best moments of the season, had no reason to go that hard
yeah this Jade Emperor's one of my favorites, he truly wise unlike some of most JTTW show
@@jjsok4288if i'm not mistaken, some academic interpretation of original JJTW purposely made Jade Emperor as petty because Wu Cheng'en meant to ridicule Taoism since Jade Emperor was an actual taoist king.
I think, that's maybe the reason?
Best thing is that he's not talking shit there, Azure really has no idea what it means to be the Jade Emperor, he finds out the hard way, and it's only gonna get worse.
this. This is how you write an antagonist that’s actually consistent. Azure never takes his eyes off his motivation, his ideals. Even after obtaining divine power, he stays consistent and doesn’t suddenly become irredeemable for the sake of a dramatic finale. More of this please
Dude voices Zoro, All Might, Piccolo, Jigen, Major Armstrong, Vegeta (and a bajillion Dragon Ball Characters) and like 100,000,000 more characters. He’s haunting me.
He also plays Garland in Dissidia Final Fantasy! :3
He's also Yami in Black Clover
Try it with Steve Blum, Demon Bull King's va. Or Mat Mercer, the voice of the new villain. This show is the definition of you won't get away.
How is his plan evil? He is trying to help people granted in the worse way possible, but again it needs to happen from what has been shown.
Being too involved or not too involved with mortals can both be bad. There needs to be a balance.
Azure wants to get more involved with the mortals... perhaps a bit TOO much....
Lets seee it in this way: If a father helps a child with everything, the child will become spoiled, dependent, and will not know how to develop on his own. but if you give the child some freedom so that he solves his own problems, the child will grow up independently, he will not need the father for everything
@@l.alejandrorivera3893but if you give a child nothing it dies. So balance.
yeah he's plans aren't EVIL so i prefer him being just an antagonist Also why he's my flavored, also some fictions always portrait gods being the enemy or just bad guys, one of the reasons I fell bad for Azure
Ite evil because communism is evil.
Nah just kidding, although I think Azure Lion is misguided. He sees the root of the problem but has the wrong solution, The Jade Emperor is bad but so would any other ruler so why would Azure Lion be any different? The issue isn't "bad kings lead to bad times" its that "kings are a bad idea to begin with" infact one could argue that putting anybody in any sort of authority above anyone is a bad idea especially if it is unearned power.
I think a doctor has the authority on what is to be done (within the context of their field, which is medicine) because they have studied their entire life in that field and should be taken seriously so it isn't coercive power, but a king, a governor, a vanguard leader, a CEO, a dictator, a tyrannty, a supreme leader deciding how people should live their lives who should get their share of the resources is the fuckin' issue. In real life it makes no sense because there is plenty of land and resources to go around, especially if we actually cared and looked after another, but our current system incentivizes individuality through artificial scarcity.
Azure Lion was going somewhere but he foolishly thinks he can lead better, when the celestial court in it's entirety must be disbanded and the collective will of the people should govern itself with no gods or masters.
im srry but r we not gonna talk about HOW GOOD THE ANIMATON IS!!??
I need someone to ask a person working on the show how’d he react on catnip, this man NEEDS to be past a catnip cigarette
Demon Bull King really drank the respect women juice, I love him
16:12 you better not insult his wife.
WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT HOW GOOD THIS SHOWS MUSIC IS????
Hey guys? Don't you kinda think Azure's right about the Jade Emperor is only caring is himself only and also some other cruel stuff?
Maybe azure is part right but the jade emporor is not a bad guy
@@BigBrainMK-ol6zkthanks for answering my incorrection
Azure isn't wrong but he doesn't see the whole picture and the sacrifices being made for balance in the universe. When he took over it was immediately too much for him showing he was never ready for it, 22:22 even the Jade Emperor didn't deny him he just asked if he was sure if this is what he wanted or if someone was playing him. The only cruel thing here is that his brothers never helped him second guess this whole endeavor and Golden Tusk was the real reason for his demise. Azure needed his on MK.
Eh yes and no. Yeah the Jade Emperor doesn't help the world directly. Intervening in wars or helping to deal with issues the people face. Buuuuuttt... when your job is literally maintaining the balance of all of time, space, dimension, etc, you can't really afford to stop and help with everything. Especially if no one else can do the job. So technically he's kinda helping. Indirectly.
If you ask me. Yes.
What’s an example of a half antagonist. And a half protagonist:
Azure lion is not that bad but deep down I know azure lion has a good heart
He is probably been corrupted by the scroll
@@BigBrainMK-ol6zk or maybe he was being mind controlled
@@BigBrainMK-ol6zk but he'll change I hope
@@ariannawatson1013 i also think and hope so
@@nintendosagaswitch3478 What stranger?
It's incredible how perfect this series is at crafting understandable characters, so many characters from this show I've found true connections and care for: MK, Wukong, Mei, Red Son, Tang, Macaque, and the newest addition, Azure Lion
"You..."
*Sigh*
"Me."
*Badass finger snap*
So cool.
Azure Lion's hair style is similar to Super Saiyan 4 Vegeta hair style.
He has the same VA as vegeta
You know I don't think azure Lion knows what the Buddha did to sun wukong the last time he stepped to the heavens It's not even the Jade emperor he should be worried about He should be worried about pissing off the Buddha because once the Buddha decides to intervene that's when you know something bad happened
PP I hope 🤞 your dad is going back to
He just wanted to create a better world 😢
THAT MAN IS NOT EVIL AT ALL DO NOT LOOK AT ME AND TELL ME HE IS A VILLIAN BECAUSE HE ISNT
Antagonist, yes
But NOT a villain
I pray he actually is redeemed
I feel very bad for him...
@@karleithanmariano8331 so uhhhhhh
@@IronycheinPain yeah?
PREACH IT
DBK straight turned into Godzilla
Ngl i agree with Azure Lion, monarchy is never just
Oh he became the new emperor, i retract my previous statement
😂
@@lucascurio8345 🤣🤣
what i wanna know is why are the villains actuallly having good points and fighting for something more than themselves? seems to be that it is wukong, the emperor,ect. that are 'evil' by nature,.. seems to be that lady bone demon and azure were in the right
my guess? is that they had right ideas but they take it to the worst extremes. it’s a “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” thing.
Lady Bone Demon wanted to get rid of everything bad in the world, all the corruption, but her way of doing it was flawed in that she understood her prized method had to be to kill EVERYTHING, good and bad together. She wasn’t gonna spare anyone and her methods were cruel, so she went too far.
Azure Lion wanted to make the world a better place as well, and he desired to make a paradise for all, for there to be no suffering or strife. Unfortunately, reality isn’t so idealistic. His methods were sacrificing surrounding life for a paradise, hence why Wukong was sent to take down Camel Ridge. It wasn’t a paradise, it was a parasite. Azure’s reckless naivety on the nature of the world then turned him to realize, far too soon, the consequences of his actions. The world wasn’t as black and white as he wanted it to be, and in his fight to create something more, and better, he became the very force of destruction he was hoping he wouldn’t be. The worst part is, he knew this, and refused to face it until the consequences were tearing him apart, and breaking his world around him.
OK.. MAYBE I need to rewatch some episode but why is Macaque not in ANY of these flashbacks?! They've already shown he was there with them, but No One mentions him! Not DBK or Azure Lion, I know Peng didn't like him but did they just ignore him or what?? Did they know what Wukong did to him?
I'm literally thinking abt this rn-
They didn't even question how he is alive so... i guess they didn't?
@@Lemon_Verus Neither did Wukong, and he's supposed the one who did it..so maybe they met up at somepoint earlier..
Its super confusing, its IMPLIED Wukong killed him. Because thats from the original and Macaque was in the underworld where LBD got him.. so somehow he died.. but if you look at the flashbacks, it looked like he was chained by something and Wukong hit him.. maybe he was trying to seal him but something went wrong?? Maybe Im thinking too much, its a kids show but I need details. Wheres Season 5??
I think this is because Macaque isn't a reliable narrator,just like Azure Lion Demon.His stories might have some truth in it that matches with others' versions,but it's twisted.All we know about him is all from his words and a few sneak peeks.Until someone else say something about him (especially Wukong),we can't be too sure.
In my opinion though,he could be chained as torture in the underworld.And it would be interesting to make him actually be true to the og novel lore,to make it full circle on the 'Wukong wasnt always a hero' thing.
Bro I realized azure lion is voice by the guy who voices, English dub zoro, and vegeta
I just noticed, the Jade Emperor foreshadows Azure being a tool in someone else’s game
Ok I kinda vibe with azure honestly I mean I am neutral most of the time
i know he’s voiced by chris sabat (vegeta and piccolo’s funi dub voice) but as azure lion he sounds a lot more like piccolo than vegeta imo
(4:20) hay look it's bendy😀
Azure Lion right though ✊️
The show was apparently REALLY DETERMINED to get Son Goku and Vegeta back together.
It's literally goku vs. Vegeta when azure lion and Sung Wukong Fight, love it.
Blud really still thinking monkey king is mk dad now the lion the uncle😮💨
Its halerios in the original myth the villains werent such a big deal (minus bull demon) but in the show their treated like thanos
My heart why couldn't Ezra be alive only one that had such a good way of being even if you betrayed us even though I knew it all along he was too nice it kind of gave it away.
Azure lion is a great character I kinda wish season 4 was a bit longer
409 Lurline Squares
THE LION DEMON KING
I seriously wanna a tutorial of drawing Azure in Lego style cause MY GOD! When I draw him this style, it look like trash! 😫😫
I actually really didn't like Azure from the start i had a key feeling he was suspicious and i was right but the fight between mk and him made me feel a bit sad for him still he eas one if the bwst villain out there in my opinion
6:39
FUNNY AZURE MOMENT 😂
1:29
😂😂😂😂
I Want Upload Azure Lion Tribute Breaking Benjamin Blood
I'll check the song out, see if I can whip something together.
(Edit) of course it had to be edge bait, I'll see what I can do, couldn't pick a more lion oriented song?
- ! - FREE HONG KONG - ! - FREE UIGHUR - ! - SAVE MYANMAR - ! -
what is happening?
What is happening?
Vegeta that's all he is to me
Especially here 6:41 😂
Good villain great voice
7:11 Which episode of season 4 is it?
I think it's the special or the episode before it
I have the episode give me a moment
Its the end of pitiful creatures. Episode 7 season 4
Vegeta Piccolo
Sailor Moon
I feel bad for dbk bc of fighting his wife
Bro i think azure is evil the main evil boi who trap people in the scroll 🥲👍
Damn it why are the bad ones always the hot ones ? 😑
Eyo
AYO
That's a lion lil man
@@crowbarhandler irrelevant 😤
Azure Lion
wait is he voiced by the same actor who voices Zoro in the One Piece Dub?
Yep Chris Sabat
@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 THAT IS SO COOOL!
50 years
Why dose he sound like All Might from Mha?
Where can I watch season 3 and 4
2:25 So much for Avatar's intro background. 😒
That's hilarious considering the VA for Sokka also voices the MC of this show
zoro
🦁6:39🩲
Azure gives me Asgore vibes
STOP I CANT UNSEE IT💀💀💀
👍👍👍👍👍
Macacid sé osam
De que me perdi?
I dunno
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He is Is horrible
The come back 😂