Pickelhaube Pyramids - WW1's Strangest Monuments
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- In New York in 1919, two strange pyramids were built as part of US victory celebrations - they were made from captured German Pickelhaube, the iconic spiked helmet.
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WW1 is less documented than WW2 but I can't believe I never saw any pictures of this temporary victory monument before now, thank you Dr Felton
Because there wasnt much motion recording during ww1...had to be highly skilled to work a battlefield and take video/photo
It's a famous photograph Carl.
Lack of soldiers who could write as well was still a problem
Dr. Felton your videos are an oasis in a desert of dull information. You make learning about our collective past a honest treat and I just am grateful we have you and your work. Happy June!
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Dr. Felton never ceases to amaze with the way he presents his topics.
Dr Felton puts the so called "history channel" to shame.. How many times do they show a documentary on the battle of Britain for example?... The history Channel is now nothing more than a broken record that constantly repeats itself.
@Byzantine Historian "formidable beyond any doubt".
I once had the opportunity to have a close look at such a helmet. It had something more to it than a simple helmet. The spike was a parade spike with black and white feathers falling down around, the colours of Prussia. The brass edges, the eagle with the coat of arms, the leather still had a little shine, the chin strap that had a chain with each eye overlapping two others, fixed with a black-white-red cockade on each sides. Man, it was a piece of art, and it radiated the good feeling. We all lost in that war.
I wonder where it had been, that helmet, what its story was. The spike was originally a brilliant, functional piece of German engineering, able to neatly deflect blows, e.g. from a sabre, directed onto the crown of the head. Such an impact didn't need to cleave your skull to do damage; even through a helmet, a direct downward strike could render the recipient dazed or incapacitated.
@@lucasgroves137 It looked as if it had seen the bright days before the fall into the world war.
Thank you, Dr Felton, for another fascinating video! BION-my family had a pickelhaube helmet for many years, which my grandfather had brought home from the war. He served in the American 79th Infantry Division in France in 1918, and brought home a number of German military items. Perhaps my favorite is a 98 Mauser rifle, which is still in perfect working order. It has "Berlin 1916" stamped on the receiver, and is stored in my home to this day. Sadly, the pickelhaube helmet was lost in a fire years ago.
Wanna know How Great a Historian is? Only 16 Min since the video posted, already pushing near 4,000 views. Dr Felton is the Best!
I keep thinking "he can't keep this up forever" and yet he does!
Thanks Mark Felton once again for one of your great uploads! Love these WW1 videos.
Thank you Professor Felton!! I have done some studies on World War 1 and never saw this! The pickelhaube helmet was synonymous with German service of that time.
Who can forget the Pickelhaube sitting on Col Klinks desk? I remember one episode when Hogan even lit a match on it to light his cigar! Haha...
Professor MY ASS!!!!!! He is not educated. He finds east stories that do not require much work to make videos out of.
In 1880 also some US units wore ,Helm mit Spitze' ( helmet with point), Pickelhaube ( pickaxe hood) was NEVER an official term. There are photos with ,Indian Scouts' wearing such helmets.
Anybody know what the spike was for? Was it as a weapon?
We were taught that our webs could be wrapped around hands with the buckle ending up on our knuckles to pack a certain punch!
@@nzs316 : The first generation of ,Helm mit Spitze' ( Helmet with point) was introduced in 1840s had a high shape like british ,Custodian Helmet', still used by english and welsh policemen. The spike was then not fixed with later disk, but with a crossshaped brasspiece. So when s saberblow came vertical from top, the spike and high round shape of leather deflected the blade. The helmet was in leather version worn only by lineinfantry and dragoons ( Dragoner, once mounted infantry men). Metal ones ( steel and tombak) had been worn by cuirassiers and some palace units.
When I was a little boy, in the early '60s, I had a distant relative who owned was on these "Kaiser Spikes". It was well worn leather without any insignia. Donno where he got it, my cousins and I assumed he picked off an enemy soldier in the Great War. We played WW1, and WW2, taking turns wearing it until "The Spike" came apart and got tossed. Great fun! Wish I could go back, now, and grab it from my little boy self. Great vid, thanks for the memories!
After the introduction of the Stahlhelm the number of patients being treated for head wounds actually increased, because before they were fatal.
Not all were fatal ... these are not aircraft returning or not returning so I understand the statistical point you are making.
What about the number of painful arse injuries caused by troops accidently sitting on their helmets in a hilarious Benny Hill style?
That's called survival bias
Better a headache than no feeling at all
Awesome video! Your work is food for a starving intellect.
A mentor of mine was an officer in the British Royal Gurkha Rifles in Burma during WW2. One of his incredible stories described when the Gurkha had built a small pyramid of heads from slain enemy, as a gift to their commander. As such an act was frowned upon, the officers had to very politely request the pyramid be taken down.
I love all of your work. If you have more to share about the Royal Gurkha Rifles, that would be great!
Thank you.
that happen when you have savages in your ranks.
Great to finally hear some in-depth info on Picklehaub's Mark, a subject hard to find info on. BTW, congrats on the recent acknowledgment by your peers. Well done sir, and I'm sure I'm speaking the thoughts of many of your followers of the channel. New Zealand subber.
Whenever I think of the Pickelhaube, I always think of the balloon duel scene from Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines where the Prussian shot down the French man's balloon then popped his own with his helmet spike. Certainly not a practical helmet by any means.
"They go uppity up up; they go down diddy down down . . . "
It reminds me of Hogans Heroes.
They did serve as great preliminary markers for anyone sniping at German trenches! Maybe not so great for the German, but really fine for the sniper!
Based on what others are saying, it sounds like the design made sense in 18th-19th century warfare, but with the 20th century it had more drawbacks - makes sense. The Germans are probably better than most in that as soon as they realized this they designed a new helmet and ditched these, rather than keeping them out of tradition no matter how little sense they made - I'm sure many militaries have done that.
@@jonathanljohnson The spike was removable - not worn in trenches.
Dr. Felton once again you have taught me a whole new set of facts I had never even considered. Thank you again.
I still can’t get over how pretty and grand US cities looked 100 years ago
Are you surprised??
@@ericp3645 I know this very well but then there was more pride but now when you are walking around the corner you are really doing it at your own risk and perils..
And that was downtown New York City? lol
That was before the modern democrats took over the cities.
@Hold Fast I agree! We have iPhones, jet propulsion and huge advancements in medicine but I feel like the soul of western civilization is dying.
I attend estate auctions regularly and sometimes see these helmets for sale. Almost all are fake. It's really rare to see the genuine article on sale, and it usually goes for many thousands of dollars.
Back in the day they were real. 20 30 years ago you could get them easily.
What is a good way to determine authenticity?
@@flagmichael Material analysis
@@flagmichael When your seller says "My Grandfather (or smth) found it on the battlefield.", you know it's fake. Or bought somewhere else at least.
The US Army used a version of the pickelhaube as part of its dress uniform post Civil War. There are pictures of men in Custer's command, including Miles Keough, wearing the pickelhaube. It is interesting then, that Americans had largely forgotten that this symbol of German "barbarity" was part of their own military heritage.
The world makes a lot more sense when you stop assuming that humans think logically and act rationally.
Prior to the Franco-Prussian War in 1870 the French Army was the most admired here in the US, that's the reason for the French-style kepi worn by both sides during the American Civil War. After the F-P War French style was out and Prussian was in, hence the spike helmets although only for full-dress purposes. They were pretty impractical for American field service.
Although it goes to show you that sometimes military people can be as faddish as high school kids!
And at any rate the helmets were eliminated when the US Army had adopted khaki as a field uniform in 1902, and drastically simplified the dress uniform. The spiked helmet was replaced with a visored flat cap.
They're good at pragmatically adapting to the conditions around them and behaving like it had always been that way. Like Northerners tolerating slavery or even holding slaves. Or eugenics being extremely popular until they saw eugenics actually looked like (concentration camps). They were even keen on investing in their own citizens and providing a decent standard of living when ideologically threatened by the Soviets.
@@BlastinRope Thank you Mr. Spock.
Observed during road tours over the years through upstate New York and New England, in numerous villages, hamlets, small town squares were adorned with distinctive WW1 style artillery pieces, alongside Civil War monuments to the Grand Army of the Republic. Never occurred to me until now that these were German trophies, not captured in action but taken as post war booty.
Great video,Dr Felton.Along with my great uncle's 'jaeger zu pferde helm,I have collected picklehaubes of all provinces,variations,,ranks and materials for years.Prussia influenced the headress of many countries for decades,including the US,UK,Sweden,and even Chile.You cover topics of interest largely overlooked or unknown by many historians.Thank you
Dead right Stephan, its rare to get info on Picklehaubs but you being a collector, id assume you have nearly piece of data available.
I imagine the idea for those Pickelhaube pyramids came from ancient stories of victors in the past building pyramids out of the heads of the defeated enemy warriors. In the modern world of 1919 building pyramids out of the heads of German soldiers would be unacceptable. But the next best thing was to use the enemy helmets instead.
I thought much the same, had a Mayan feel to it really tbh. 🤔
Kind of creepy though. :)
The Mongols were famous for building head pyramids.
Thank you Dr. Felton. You find these arcane tidbits of history and bring them to life for us.
I still can’t believe I get to watch these videos and learn so much. Thank you Mr Felton for the excellent content! As always great video!
Absolutely brilliant.......again. Thank you so much Mr Felton.
A military collector's paradise. Thanks for sharing Dr Felton!
Interesting video Mark!
Never knew about the helmets being a premium for war bond purchases or how many were brought to the U.S. or why. You keep finding interesting little tidbits about Wars I and II.😊
I have never been disappointed by a single one of Mark's videos. Each video is worthy of one's full attention.
That is one hell of a monument. wow
Very fascinating and a reminder of the unsettling fact that in the years immediately after the war, remembrance was less about respect and reverence and more about triumphalism. I remember hearing that the first parades in London marking the anniversary of the armistice were essentially victory rallies - the modern culture of remembrance with minute's silences and a certain degree of sentimentality started in the 20s as far as I understand.
Canada’s former PM, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, during WW2 rode around Montreal on a motorcycle, wearing a Picklehaube and blowing raspberries at Canadian soldiers. I like to think he was wearing Hitler’s helmet at the time and there’s a very, very slim chance that might actually be the case.
What a hypocrite about CF booing them then, needing and using them later.
Though Trudeau was born into privilege, he was still a second class citizen as a francophone in Quebec in that era. Why Quebecois nationalism is so strong after centuries of abuse by the English over lords.
Castro is obv his father. She was a hussy of international overtness and ilrepute, perhaps Pierre shouldn't have spent so much time blowing raspberries when his time would have been infinitely more constructively spent blowing his wife. Sure woulda save modern day Canada a TON of pain, eh?!
Mr. Hitler was vegetarian, non smoker and anti alcoholic. Don' t believe such persons!
The absolute hype I feel when Preußens Gloria plays is indescribable
I've never been disappointed with this channel. Always fascinating always informative.
This is one of those moments in history I wish I could travel back to. Would love to purchase some Mausers, Lugers, Maxims, and a dozen Pickelhaube for pennies on the dollar! Hell even a field gun or two would be dope.
If you looked close at the video, there was a whole line of Maxim Heavy belt feeds on trench mounts on the left on the side walk...
I'd have an entire arsenal if if I could purchase WW1 German made Mauser 98's for the prices I'm sure they went for.
Man, if only.
Thanks Dr. Felton!
There are a ridiculous number of different types of pickelhaube, they can sell for as little as $300 For a standard enlisted man's helmet in poor shape to as much as $15,000 for a helmet of the garde du corps (the kaiser's body guards) in excellent condition. There is also everything in between. Prussian enlisted in good shape 600, Bavarian officer's in fair shape 1200, a general's helmet 5000, ect.
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In 1977 I was fortunate to be able to hold and examine one of these several times. It was a field gray felt (might have been very thin leather) + metal version and it was really a hat and not a helmet in any way. The spike at the top was not completely without purpose because it covered the ventilation hole(s) at the top and presumably stopped dirt from getting inside. Other than keeping your hair clean it offered no protection at all.
There were several pickelhaube variations during WW1. The original was made of leather, then to save leather stocks they were made out of pressed felt, then stamped sheet steel. Right after the last came the M1916 Stahlhelm.
Very interesting
The spike prevents a perpendicular blow to the weakest part of the helmet from a sword
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 Afaik helmets initially served as protection against rubble rather than against bullets. Though I might be wrong
The ‘felt’ versions are known as ‘ersatz’ helmets. This was a cheaper substitute when leather became rarer and more expensive during WWI.
When I want to learn true history, I always visit this amazing channel. Thank you Mr. Felton!
I’ve got my great grandfathers WWI bringback Prussian Dragoon Picklehaube. He was part of the third ammunition train.
Dr Felton never ceases to amaze with stories and facts that you have never heard of.
Dr. Felton, you never fail to entertain and get me interested in military history with these videos. I think it was a very interesting move by the U.S. to auction off all of these items. I feel this probably would never happen today. I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos and can't wait to see more of these in the future. I have quite a few old military relics spanning from the U.S. civil war, WWI, WWII, all the way up to the Vietnam War. If you don't mind me asking, do you have any old antiques or military items Dr. Felton? You're my go-to youtube channel for military history videos. Thank you for all time and research you put into these videos! Sincerely, Noah E.
The Ukrainians should give it a go - "for sale, 300 ex Russian T-72's, not road worthy, may be slightly fire damaged, would make good paper-weight".
@@casinodelonge indeed lol
"Preußens Gloria" ("The Glory of Prussia" or "Prussia's Glory") was written in 1871 after the Kingdom of Prussia's victory in the Franco-Prussian War.
Dr Mark Felton is sure giving it a good airing in these recent, latest productions.
It sure gives the heart rate a stir.
As usual extraordinary….. what a story , what a spectacle ….and all the rifles and bayonets . An Irish friend in USA showed me a ww1 bayonet that belonged to his great uncle ….. he was surprised when I told him it was German ….
Those were the days. Thanks Mark, this was quite interesting. Now I understand why as a kid I used to see so much WW1 German stuff. And if you're ever in the Kansas City area, check out the WW1 Museum if you've not already been there. Some great exhibits rivaling those in the Imperial War Museum.
De Felton, you are a gem!! Thank you!
Had to laugh at the scene of the German troops marching in parade as it reminded me of one of my favorite movie scenes from "Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines". Where Gert Frobe playing the German officer raises the Imperial flag.
Ha ha, yes, and in the movie when he walked we heard the trombone with each step, I remember that part well, not bad since I only saw it once, when it came out, when was that, about 1969?
@@CRAIG5835 '65. And as the scene played in Dr. Felton's video I was imitating Gert Frobe. 🤣
@@DonP_is_lostagain 65 ty, maybe i got it mixed with The Mag Mag Men in their Jaunting jaloppies, easy to mix up I was young then, about 8 years old. Thanks, oomph oomph, OOMPH OOMPH.
Belting film that, it used to be on every 20 minutes in the 70's, I believe it was law in Britain to have that, "Von Ryan's Express", "Wizard of Oz", "Chitty CHitty Bang Bang" and "Hannibal Smith" on at least every other day and twice on Christmas. I havent seen it for many years though.
Always surprising, Mark. Thanks for the video.
Mr. Felton, as a military historian, you should know, that ,Pickelhaube' ( pickaxe hood) was never an official term for this helmet. It was called simply ,Helm mit Spitze" ( helmet with point). It was used by line infantry and dragoons ( leather Version) and in metall version by cuirassiers ( Prussia/ Bavaria), saxon heavy cavallry and few prussian ,Palace' soldiers ( Leibgendarmen).
Yeah but the Americans that captured enough of them to build two giant pyramids made out of them called them Pickelhaubes. If you wanted to dictate what they were called you should've won the war.
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Good Explanation 👍👍
@@Wanup_Vodka epic burn
@@Wanup_Vodka ZING!
I’ve been waiting for you to cover this one, and you didn’t disappoint.
Have to appreciate that the U.S. government had contractors along Victory Way selling German bayonets, Mausers and pistols as a fund raiser. Amazing the degree to which the U.S. government trusted its citizens one hundred years ago.
If you are not corrupt, there is not much to fear
As usual this has left me shaking my head because I never heard a word about this before. Awe inspiring!
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an uncle would be more cool
He probably is mate, I’d ask your mum about her knowledge of Unit 731.
thanx again and again Dr FElton
Yet another amazing history fact. 👏
Blessed once again by another wonderful Mark Felton production!
“Why not make some money out of it?”
Ah. America.
Dr Felton you are an endless source of new information. Thanks for your research
Another interesting story by Dr Felton. I clicked on this so fast I think I beat my old record! 😂
My record at 17 minute..this video too
Mark never ceases to deliver.
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@Richard Young Whatever! Stop hating! You’re just a hater!
Only time will tell. hehe.
@Billy Wardlaw why must you hate tho?
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Early in the war German soldiers would break the spike off their helmet, when they could get away with it. They learned quickly their enemy could see the spike.
I always enjoy your great documentaries Mark Felton Productions.
Not the last time Hitler found himself in a Pickel...
Great video Sir!
My dad had one and lots of other trophies brought back by his dad and other family members who fought in WW1. Sadly his mum chucked it all out when he signed up in 1941 aged 14 as a scullion on the convoys across the Atlantic. She thought the glorification of war through such trophies would cause her to loose her son as she'd lost her two of her brothers in on the Somme. Awful to say but it used to piss me off something rotten as a kid, now I can see exactly why, although I'd still like to have the trophies.
Liar.
The fact its made out of helmets is so freaking cool thank you mark.
You are the man
Here to be enlightened and educated by Dr Mark Felton !
As usual a very interesting video from you Thanks
Leave it to Dr. Felton to come up with another piece of history that you would only find in one of his video’s. Thanks so much for another great video!
@@balabanasireti Thanks I did watch the full video first.
I found out about it before watching the video
Amazing work, Dr Felton, thank you!
...that pyramid is somehow even *MORE* morbid than the Egyptian ones...
Thank you for today's lesson Dr. Felton
Fascinating. I am an old man now and my grandfather , on my mother's side, wore one of these helmets as a Lieutenant in the German Army Artillery at parades. Just remember, the hated Versailles Treaty was one of the major reasons for the rise of Hitler.
Hated by whom???? Oh yeah, Hitler.
Can anyone give me a good reason why Dr. Felton doesn't have his own series on History or American Heroes Channel? His content is consistently fresh and interesting, and he's great on camera. I enjoy these TH-cam and War Stories episodes so much, can't help but feel that a TV version would be a smash hit.
Wait till he compiles, and sells his shorts into syndication.
1:24 *Preußens Gloria Intensifies*
wow! I did not know this at all thank you for sharing this so much with us!
Thousands of helmets. That is a little morbid, even for me. Reminds me of the staking of heads in the ancient times.
Keep 'em coming Mark!
Great video! That was not the first time the US sold captured weaponry and items.
After the spanish-american war of 1898, many spanish mauser 1895 were sold after the end of the war they were surrendered in La Habana and Manila. Every one of those Mauser rifles included a letter explaining the model type and that it had been "captured" from spanish soldiers, when this was not true.
Nowdays, it is not easy to find one in good condition and they are not cheap; and as it happens with the great ammount of Pickelhaube helmet in the USA, it is much easyer to find and 1895 spanish Mauser in the US than in Spain.
When I visited Fort Ticonderoga in the 1980's I was surprised to see many of the bronze cannon there were Spanish and not French or British. I'm assuming they were prizes from the Spanish-American war and installed during the forts restoration in the early 20th Century.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 maybe they were there from the Spanish guns provided during the Independence War or left there after Spain lost its North American continental possessions.
I really doubt they could be from the 1898 war.
@@sergiom9958 Anything's possible, the staff at the fort didn't know when I asked. Spain did send aid to the Americans during the Revolution (Thanks!) but I assumed the guns were taken from Havana or San Juan Puerto Rico in 1898, it's strange to see them in upstate New York.
But in Florida, no! There's some fine examples in St. Augustine at the Castillo de San Marco.
As Fort Ticonderoga was built by the French (original name Fort Carillon) the original artillery would have been French, and then kept in place by the British when they captured the fort. But it doesn't really matter, those guns in place now are absolutely beautiful! Real masterpieces of foundry work. And being corrosion-resistant bronze they're probably as good as the day they were made.
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 in Florida, if you are lucky, you can find Spanish gold and silver coins. Well, that’s what they say on Pawn Stars hahaha
@@sergiom9958 Well, there ARE some beaches on the east coast of Florida where some treasure hunters have made some pretty good finds. Of course, they won't tell you where!
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You are amazing! How in the world do you find these obscure fascinating stories? Keep going!
Very strange phenomenon.
Thank you Dr. Felton for the awesome work! Another great video with my morning cup of joe.
A family friend from Germany, who had served (navy) during WWII, told us that the German old-timers (probably WWI vets and maybe older) told about the best way to prove your courage out of battle: the end of the German grenades had a hole in it that would fit over the tip of the spike on the old helmets. If you stayed calm, you could pull the pin, put the grenade on the spike, then stand ram-rod straight and you’d be fine.
Thats nuts!....thanks for that..interesting bit
That's an old bar gag...ill get one and let you try it
Great so see some Great War content. Thanks for your videos full of information😉
Thanks Dr. Could it be symbolic to the pilling up of human skulls from ancient/prehistoric wars?
It's not literally the same practice but it's probably similar. It was relatively common practice in pre-WWII societies to parade POWs and captured equipment in front of a crowd. The earliest and clearest example that comes to mind is a Roman triumphal procession, but there were certainly many others
@@boozecruiser You're right, it's not literally the same; as the OP said, maybe symbolic. Sheesh.
@@boozecruiser didn’t really change in WWII, the Soviets publicly paraded captured Germans in Moscow, the Germans for their part openly used Soviet POWs as slave workers in their cities, while American and Japanese soldiers both took each other’s skulls as trophies, though they weren’t displayed publicly.
Always fascinating. Thank you doctor Mark Felton.
giving a nod to their organizers with the pyramids eh!
Such an iconic piece!
I’m sorry but that has to be one of the greatest flexes by the Americans.
Prußens Gloria is such a masterful music piece.
I love your classic bbc style. No fancy gimmicks or graphics flying around the screen, no fast talking and no fast cuts.
Wow
Always interesting, thank you.
Awesome display of German helmets I ever seen!..as always a great video from Mark Felton!
Thanks for sharing this...Pyramids on the moon too Mark. I confirm it.
But they are made of astronaut and cosmonaut helmets from all the doomed lunar missions we never heard about.
Wow! I've been a student of the American involvement in WW1 for years and NEVER heard of the "Pickelhaube Pyramids!" Amazing! Thanks Dr. Felton!
I can say from first hand experience though many of those captured German artillery pieces are still to be seen in town parks in the American Northeast. I saw quite a few in northern New Jersey where I grew up.
Excellent and informative video once again thank-you
Very ornate for a country only in the war for a year 🤔
Mark, another fascinating and informative look back in time. This story brings to life all of the illustrations I used to look at and toy soldiers I used to play with when I was a kid in the 60s. But, alas, this helmet was tied to the most savage war known to date then: serious stuff.
no one can top this helmet....maybe something like those medieval polish horsemen with the feathers or something like that, i forget the exact name
The winged hussars?
@@Matt-kp9xd could be it, it also may not even be a helmet 😅 but at least its badass
Damn I love this Channel ... Been subbed for years and still never get disappointed....
The US ability to play the propaganda game has always impressed and surprised me. It's very clear they've intended to be the writers of history for a fair while now. It's kind of surprising most other countries don't seem to try quite as hard as they do
The advantages of being an older bunch of cultures with a sense of humility over the centuries compared to us Americans, I guess.
One day, though, we'll try to make amends away from all this showboating. It'll take many years, but I'm optimistic that we'll eventually get the humble pie treatment as per the course of history and its blessed woes.
the lingua franca privilege
@@michaelandreipalon359 Only in the west do older cultures act humbly, and even that may not last for much longer. Truly ancient cultures like China, India, Japan, etc. employ propaganda meant to skew history as heavily or even heavier than the US. One of the reasons that the US's propaganda is more successful (aside from audience range) is that the US was the Cold War's victor, has immense international cultural influence, and uses English.