My Uncle was a Dutch Resistance operator who was "turned in" by a Dutch NSB'er Dentist in A'dam. He was in a interogation prison in Amsterdam and escaped out a barred window to Ijmuiden (Port City on North Sea). He and another Dutch Underground member got into a rowboat and were eventually picked up by a British Navy patrol boat and interogated. He was then sent BACK to Holland via parachute for a specific mission, then picked up off the coast of Holland and debriefed by the British. He was then sent to RAF Spitfire training and became a pilot for the 322nd RAF Dutch Spitfire Squadron. He was shot down and killed over Holland 3 weeks before the end of the war in April 1945.
Thirty five years ago I was on a Canadian hockey team playing at an international tournament in Hertogenbosch Holland. We had great fun while over there and the Dutch women we met were just wonderful. One such sweetheart wanted me to meet with her grandparents. Apparently they had survived the brutal treatment by the Nazis during the war and they never forgot the Canadian soldiers that liberated them. It was a wonderful experience and made me so proud not only of my country but of all the allies who served their countries. They were truly special.
Among the SS victims was a cousin of mine, Peter Pooters, who was with the CS-6 Resistance Group In Amsterdam. His sister Nel Pooters survived the war to tell me before she died in 2000 about life under the Nazis, their groups activities, and by that time I was a USAF Security Policeman. I was third in the family here to serve in the U.S. miltary, soon to have a daughter go the same way in miltary law enforcement. Thanks for this, Dr. Felton!
The “gud” guy’s won every war in history & they wrote about how they are gud & of course the people they slaughtered were the “baddie’s” or the “monster’s” 🙄 i mean just look at every western government today if you still believe that nonsense.
I see those days returning, probably during the 7 year tribulation ergo VERY SOON. Time to start getting fit and healthy, healthy in body, healthy in mind.
Being Dutch, I want to thank you for doing an item on this monster Hanns Albin Rauter or, as one Dutch historian named him, "the Vulture from the Alps"!
For many years one of the victims shot at the Woeste Hoeve was unidentified. A Dutch journalsit found out that this unknown person was a Polish pilot, Czesław Oberdak, Flying Officer of 306 Squadron. He was caught when trying to reach liberated Dutch area together with an other airman he met when hidden by the resistance. December 1944, both wearing civilian cloathing were regarded by the Germans as terrorists and locked up in a prison. Shot march 1945 and buried as a unknown Dutchman. His sister Ludmila kept looking for him many years after the war. She wrote a letter 1990 to a local newspaper when she learned her brother had crashlanded in that area. After the use of DNA it was possible to identify him. In 2008 His sister received his watch he was wearing. The shoes he wore, found in his grave, were rubber soled RAF issue for ground crew, rubber soled to prevent damage when walking on the wings of aircraft. These shoes were quite popular with pilots who at times wore them for flying duties. In December 2009 he was reburied in the family grave in Krakow with military honours in the presence of his siter Ludmila. 60 years after he had left Poland.
Hi there, Dr.Felton. My name is Stefan, I am from one of the small country members of EU, Republic of Bulgaria. I am here today to thank you and mark my interest through not just raising a national flag, practically I will raise 5 flags at least, in honour of this channel. And, since some of the flags I could not find on our emogical sing pallet, I am adding also my manual descriptions: 🇧🇬 🏴 🏴 🇮🇪 🏴, Flag of Northern Ireland (Red cross on whit background, with a 6-pointed star in the centre, a red hand inside star, and a crown right above the star), Flag of Isle of Man (Triskelion in white and gold on a red background). After this, I have to say, that I sometimes visit this channel with a feeling of support and my friends and I, who have a rich academic background, later often discuss topics from videos on the channel. So, I recently noted to one of my fellow colleagues from New Bulgarian University, that I am not sure you have yet become a professor of history, as an academic status, BUT IF THIS ever depended on any committee in my home country, Bulgaria, I would grant it happening at an official ceremony! 🌞✨⭐ I, actually, nowadays sincerely recommend you and your work to any prominent historian around me and my friend crowd. We are mainly IT workers, engineers above the age of 50, and older and young historians. Taking ourselves seriously 😃😉 And, definitely, very interested in your work. Thanks to it, today we have another question to ask. With a few more details. Most of our youngest members are alumni of national universities, such as Sofia University and American University in Bulgaria, New Bulgarian University, Veliko Tarnovo University or Plovdiv University. So, they get to visit your channel, share anything they find important for their knowledge, and we often have a discussion on Hitler and Nazi history. These days one new question arose after discussions, following us also watching together a video of yours, on the topic of Hilter possibly killing our last kind, Tzar Boris III, may God rest our Tzar's soul. Thus, I am, as always, impressed by your inclusive and elaborate analysis in one shot, precise video and photo materials. And our new question is... What happened to Argentina's Jews or Jews in Cuba, such parts of South and Latin America, is there much information for them. As I remember, in a 20-year old movie about Frida Kahlo, it is mentioned, that her father was some kind of Jewish. What about Jews under the reign of the Peron family? Is it possible, that information exists even here, and maybe we did not find it? My best, greetings to all. Stefan, IT and sometimes art of history. 👍👍✌️
@@targetmann100ify These hostages were murdered, thats a crime thus victims. They were shot not after a suitable trial were they could defend themselves. The Polish pilot was also a prisoner of war and should be treated as such even when he was not in full uniform.
As a Canadian whose parents are Dutch I can't how much I appreciate your coverage of nazi atrocities in Holland during the war. My parents and grandparents well remember those times when one of my grandfathers was one of the 500 000 shipped to Germany. Only he escaped by jumping the train that was carrying to the slave labour factories in Germany. My mum remembers the day the Canadians liberated her town in Holland. It was early one morning when she, my grandparents, aunts and uncles were awakened by someone banging on their door. It was one of mum's yelling "The tommies are here!" That was a day my mum will never forget!
My grandfather was picked off the streets in The Hague for forced labour in Germany. My grandmother was starving and sick and made long walks to get some food from farmers to keep her children alive. She once was raped on one of those ´hongertochten´. When my grandfather came back after almost 2 years he was covered in boils and very sick. He never regained his health. My grandmother was a hero to me to survive the war and the years after that. Not all heroes were in the resistance or the army. They only tried to survive. A lot of people are saying that the Dutch citizens did not resist enough, but I think that is so unfair.
Reading some of these amazing comments left by people telling us about their brave , heroic relatives is so touching. Thank you for sharing what amount to family stories. What a great job you do Mark.
I was born in that area. At "de Woeste Hoeve" there is an Inn. It was one of the first things I learned from my parents about WW2. Three years ago I had a coffee at the Inn with my wife. It is a peaceful place but I always remember that a monster was almost executed there and a lot of innocent people died instead. After the war he did not regret anything. Rauter was a demon.
I don't really know so I'll take your word for that. But in this video you see him at the end on trial talking about how he had admitted to what happened in his sector and the orders that he followed. All while saying the other things that people were saying about him were lies. Why would this man knowing the consequences stand up there and tell the truth about one part and then lie about another part? It was pretty convincing what he said about the lies being told? The real question is what exactly were those lies about?
@@Mr._Infamous Not really quite sure what you're alluding to ... but listening to the Rauter and paraphrasing him, it sounded very much like the usual excuse of "not my fault, couldn't see that I was doing anything wrong and I was only following orders".
Rene, I've tried to put myself into the mindset of these monsters and can't. It must be the depths that hatred can reach when you systematically murder countless humans beings.
@@oldfella3919 I agree you're exactly right. Now what about the part where he mentioned the lies? I don't know exactly what he's talking about when he says these lies but I sure would like to know specifically what allegations he's talking about.
My uncle wrote many, many letters home to my mom. They range from training camps, on board train to dispersal camp, on board ship to England, from Sicily, and Italy. But the most heartfelt and, in some ways, most terrible were the letters from the Netherlands. A beautiful country destroyed, it's people defeated and subject to a horrible tyranny, starved, tortured, humiliated, and murdered. There was deep-seated hatred for the NAZI oppressors by the liberating Canadian troops for what they did, but no amount of care, food, medicine, or anything else needed by the Dutch population was spared and gladly shared by the Canadian liberators. The Canadians never forgot the welcome they received, and the Dutch never forgot the Canadians. I will be there next year to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the liberation.
It's no wonder Dutch started doing Euthanasia after wwii with all that killing.. It couldn't help but affect your world view if you were vulnerable. People ground under Nazis, starving and feeling abandoned, must have felt life wasn't worth living, esp. If they were being made into "reprisals" and executed.
You are absolutely right we never forgot who liberated us. My grandad had a farm in the northern part of Holland. The bomber crew of a downed bomber (not far from the farm of my grandad) are buried at the local cemetery. Each year on the 4th of may we pay our respect there, and lay flowers at their grave. We were liberated by the Canadians. My mother got a beret with pin from one of the soldiers. I still got the pin: it is from the Cape Breton Highlanders. We keep our liberators in the highest regard. 🫡
"A beautiful country destroyed, it's people defeated and subject to a horrible tyranny, starved, tortured, humiliated, and murdered" Actually the German soldiers came here for rest and recreation - they felt safe here because the population was not agressive - plenty of letters from German soldiers prove that, at least for the first years of the war. There was devastation - sure, but apart from Rotterdam and the war damage in parts of the South, The Netherlands escaped relatively unscathed. To describe my country as 'destroyed' is a misconception, some parts remained untouched by war. Resistance was also late, many people did not think anything of the Germans except from occupiers of course. Many accepted the new situation as well - of all occupied countries, most Jews were taken from The Netherlands. It's 100% true that we love our Canadian liberators. We will never forget them.
Thank you for making this video. My great grandfather was one of the prisoners killed at the Woeste Hoeve as a result of the ambush on Rauter. He was a dentist and member of the resistance. It is really a tragedy that my grandfather and his two brothers had to grow up without their father because of these senseless reprisals. To honor him a street in Hoogeveen is named after him.
My grandmother’s uncle was also in the resistance and got executed at the Woeste Hoeve as well. P Tjittes, think he has a little tile with his name on it im the street he used to live in. My grandparents 92 and 90 still have so many stories of world war 2.
Also one German victim, Oberwachtmeister der Ordnungspolizei Helmut Seijffards refused to execute 116 dutch hostages at the "De Woeste Hoeve" who had to die after the attemp to kill Hanns Albin Rauter. He was taken prisoner and was executed at the same spot as the 116 dutch hostages. He was burried with them in one grave.
From some googling: "The Helmut Seijffards that was executed at Woeste Hoeve on March 8, 1945, was a born Czech Polish national, who ended up in The Netherlands and was arrested for his communist sympathies. He was one of 25 who was selected for the execution at Woeste Hoeve as a reprisal for the attack on SS Obergruppenfuhrer Hanns Rauter on March 6. "
Interesting the rumor of a Nazi refusing to participate in reprisals was started by a historian Loe de Jong who did so incorrectly. The named Helmut Seijffards was a "Czech Polish national, who ended up in The Netherlands and was arrested for his communist sympathies. The was imprisoned in SS-camp Vught, somehow escaped, but was arrested again in December 1944 and imprisoned in Kruisberg prison in Doetinchem. He was one of 25 who was selected for the execution at Woeste Hoeve as a reprisal for the attack on SS Obergruppenfuhrer Hanns Rauter on March 6." - Richard Schuurman = Richard D. Scheuerman (historian & published author)
As a Dutch, born after WWII, I thank you for your contribution to clearing up this part of history. As always your channel provides great insight on many issues regarding WWII. A BIG THANK YOU FOR THAT!
My grandfather who lived in Amsterdam North was arrested by German officers when he walked in the street minding he's business. Was deported to Köln and forced to work as a firemen together with Russian POW's and lived in a labor camp. He got sick with pleurisy and nearly did not survive. Luckily he lived to be 91 and died in 2014.
Amazing, I'm Dutch, and have very good knowledge of WWII, but you caught me completely off guard with this story Mark. You keep pulling unique stories out of your bag! Big thanks for all your efforts.
It is doubtful that you have very good knowledge about WW2. And the story told in this video was described long ago in one of the issues of After the Battle magazine.
I love reading everyone's personal stories in the comments and especially hearing about stores people heard from their parents and grandparents. Passing down family oral traditions is one of humanity's most fascinating activities.
So little of my parents experiences during the war (they were both in their teens) has been passed on, and by the time I had the chance to go to Holland to meet relatives and ask more questions my father had passed and my mother was losing her mind, so these videos are of great value to me. I do though know of my maternal grandfather who was a captain in the Dutch merchant marine, torpedoed twice, that has been confirmed, and members of a Dutch genealogy group have been ever so helpful and willing to pass on information they had accumulated.
I remember that my grandfather told he biked over the Jan Gijzenvaart bridge in Haarlem. Next day he heard that three Dutch people randomly were shot on that bridge, only 10 minutes after he crossed the bridge. It makes you wonder, what if he had been there 10 minutes later....
My dad and his best friend tossed a coin as to who would take the Army officer on a joy ride. The friend never came back ( not did the officer ). And so I'm sat here telling you about it. C'est la vie.
Mostly state of emergency/wartime represaille. At the time this was not unusual or abnormal pactice in such extremely dangerous and difficult circumstances. It was done to discourage *illegal* actions against the state/state personnel by *civillians* /resistance fighters. War is terrible, warcrimes are worse, warcrimes committed by the later victors (who want to get away scot-free afterwards, thinking the law does not apply to them and misusing victory to make that dream come true, accusing their horror victims of exactly what they themselves in fact did etc. etc.) are the worst.
Wow. I am a South African but my mom was born in Rotterdam. My grandmother told me stories about WWII that will live with me forever. Amstelveen close to Amsterdam, my grandmother told me of her jewish neighbors taken away, never to be seen again. German soldiers demanding food, blankets, pots and pans. She saw an American bomber crash into the last house in the row of her street of houses aiming to crash in an open field missing, just short killing all in the house plus the crew. My great-grandfather was taken by the Germans and worked in a Nazi labour camp until the wars end. The Dutch went through so much and is not well documented. Thank you Mark! This video struck a chord with me!
Many thanks. You have shed light on an area of not only my family history but my wife's family history as well. Our roots are buried deep in exactly that area of the Netherlands. Your good work is much appreciated.
I served in the South African diplomatic service. Our Embassy in The Hague (the building shown at 6:59 served as one of the Nazi headquarters in the NL. The building was donated to South Africa in the 50s after SA assisted the Dutch during the great flood. It is situated in Wassenaarseweg, opposite Nassaubuurt, where my official residence was located. Apparently, when the Apartheid regime took over the building they found Nazi paraphernalia in the basement. Our Embassy is one of the most imposing in The Hague. I miss the NL and learned so much from the Dutch. I miss the country.
14-hour shift? You must be in the west working and paying taxes for a corrupt government that supports Nazis in Ukraine and who used Nazis for the their space program.
@@joem3999 It’s def taking a toll on the health that’s for sure! All kinds of sleep issues now and high blood pressure. I’m a lab technician for a coal company so I’m on call 24/7 most weeks. This economy person has to work his life away to survive 😔
The germans thought of the dutch as genetically simular to them as a germanic brother people , had already used Dutch historical figures like Rembrant in propaganda aimed at Germans and initially aimed to nazify and radicalize the Dutch, as resistance kept up this slowly turned to collectively punishing the populous @gruggsming32
My dad was a young child in Holland at this time. In his later years I only learnt a small amount of what his family endured with the occupation and lack of food. He moved to NZ in the fifties. Thank you Mark for providing this information and keeping this history alive. I really appreciate your efforts.
My Oma and Opa were kids sneaking around stealing food for their families. Seems like I’m pretty lucky to be here today. I have a Canadian Machete that my Opa had found in the back of a truck during his travels. Great story thank you for your work.
In 1971, my father took me to Den Hague, where I met my Oma and Opa. He was there for their Golden Wedding Anniversary. So I was fortunate to met them. Bible readings after every evening meal. Melik & Yogurt delivered by vender in the mornings. The Yogurt was in a plastic pouch. This is where my father grew up. As a young man, after the war ended, my father joined the Dutch Army and was posted to the Dutch East Indies. After serving time there, he discharged and went back home and worked as an accountant. One of his army mates (Dick Menisse (not sure I spelt that correctly, going by memory)) sent him a letter from New Zealand and encouraged him to come out on a work scheme. He left everything and came out on one of the transport ships in the early 1950's. In all the years from when I was born, till the day he died, he wouldn't teach us Dutch. We might have heard 2 stories about his life during the war. We have a O.V.W. medal that he used to wear in the R.S.A ANZAC parades. Never finished his memoirs that he started. I guess he left all the war and memories in the Netherlands and lived a full life in a new country. R.I.P dad.
A met a Dutch man a few years ago who told me his anecdote about hunger. He was a post-WWII child born to parents who experienced the Netherland's mass starvation first hand. He said that when he was a kid and would complain to his mother that he was hungry, Mom said "you are not hungry, you just have hungers." He never understood what she was saying until later on in life when he learned of the Nazis' starvation of the Dutch population in 1944-45. To this day, he said, the Dutch welcome their American, British, and Canadian liberators with open arms.
Not all heroes were from the resistance or army. My grandfather was picked off the streets for forced labour in Germany and my grandmother was starving and sick trying to keep her children alive. After the war she got a very sick husband back coverd in boils that never regained his health back. They had no possibility to resist but surviving was all they had energy for.
As a born Dutch citizen on Aruba. I have lived and studied for 8 years in Arnhem in the Netherlands. I have studied at MBO CIOS Arnhem Sports and movements . We went in to the Ardennes with school in 2010 for internship in french Belgium Houffalize for outdoorsports keuzevak. Amazing times. While we we're at the Ardennes there were spicific routs marked , that we had to take marked with orange ribbons to get from bivak to bivak! Till we got to the stuwmeer. It was an awesome experience. While living in the Netherlands I have played baseball in Amersfoort mencioned in this documantary. The baseball field in Amersfoort is located almost right next to the hospital at Dorresteinsesteeg 2 Amersfoort BSC Quick. I find it always interesting when Mark post something about ww2 and it had some small little thing to do with where I have been.
As a Dutchman I thank you for giving attention to this part of WW2 History of my homeland. As an excellent historian it might be interesting for you looking in to the battle for the Afsluitdijk in may 1940, the only part of Western Europe the Germans didn’t succeed in conquering. It is an interesting story!
I find it difficult to distinguish between an officer or Nazi official who orders reprisal killings / mass murder and the soldiers who execute those orders. How many thousands of German soldiers knowingly shot and killed innocent civilians and simply walked away to live out their full lives. It must have haunted the relatives of those murdered for years after.
Another great video from Mark! ♥ On a similar note, I have always felt not enough SS or Nazi leadership ever paid a severe enough price for their crimes. A lot of SS and even the guilty soldiers of the Wehrmacht escaped any justice at all. I recently helped a young German understand that the Wehrmacht were not as innocent of crimes as he was taught. He kept blaming the "little moustache Man" man for everything. I had to remind him that his great grandparents and grandparents probably proudly flew the swastika without any shame and more than likely believed in Hitler's rhetoric. Most Germans gladly participated in the hate. I was amazed at how little he had learned in school in Germany about that era. To be fair, it is just as scary how many American kids are just as clueless. It is the lack of knowledge contributing as to why we keep repeating the horrible things of history. Mark's videos would be a great addition to history class at all levels of high school.
That is odd. In the curricula of German schools the German role and guilt is extensively discussed for many, many years. So I think that young German was either trolling you or was a secret sympathizer of the right wing AfD (Alternative fuer Deutschland, a party with a nucleus of Nazi sympathisers)
Thank you for the consistently interesting content. While many historians seem to struggle to find content to discuss, Dr. Felton continues to seamlessly and tirelessly bring us amazing historical content.
I just completed reading Three Ordinary Girls: The remarkable story of three dutch teenagers who became spies, saboteurs, nazi assassins, and WWII heroes by Tim Brady. Your video put faces to the names and places in the book. Thanks so much for a wonderful documentary.
@@apacifistmachinegunner669 what's more interesting is how the most advanced country in the world ended up a genocidal police state. How much of a hostile takeover were the Nazis if any?
Thank you for this video Mark. I have been to the Netherlands a few times, and I’ve often wondered about the Dutch Resistance and war criminals. As a Canadian, I am proud of the role Canada played in the liberation of the Netherlands.
Every Dutchman knows about the role of Canada in the liberation of the Netherlands. Each year, we used to have Canadian veterans over. As schoolkids we handed flowers to them. It seems they even taught us baseball, which we've played ever since.
He would fit right in with the current waves of Karens who, when caught red-handed committing various crimes, loudly scream "What did I do wrong? I didn't do anything wrong! I promise!"
Allied officers who interrogated Senior German officers and officials after capture were routinely stunned by the lack of accountability shown... the most horrific atrocities were described as "mistakes", and only by the "SS"...which was of course not even remotely true. Apparently the one thing that shocked those officers and officials was that somehow THEY might be seen to be in any way responsible. It was pointed out that even Manstein - a brilliant General in many ways - certainly did NOT include any mention of his "Commissar Order" and other brutal and illegal policies HE supported ..in his post war book "Lost Victories".
all governments are comprised of individuals who would investigate themselves and find that they've done no wrong, even when the cost of admitting guilt would be nothing more than public embarrassment. of course indeed
My understanding is that the horrific Vught concentration camp wasn't 'liberated' by British units once they finally crossed the Nederijn at Arnhem in 1945. No, most of the prisoners had already been 'evacuated' (aka death-marched) away by then, leaving only the dead and the dying in quite appalling conditions of starvation and disease. Some British soldiers kept diaries of their campaign experiences. Vught sounds utterly, utterly ghastly.
Vught is south of the Rijn and on the road between Eindhoven and 's-Hertogenbosch, so it was marginal to the XXX Corps MARKET GARDEN corridor in September 1944 and in the British XII Corps axis of advance, so it would have been evacuated at that time. In fact, General Kurt Student's 1.Fallschirm-Armee headquarters was in the villa Bergen at Vught, and close by was the glider crash site that yielded documents revealing to Student the airborne resupply schedule, which Model then dismissed.
As a Dutchman of 63 I heard the story's of the occupation from my parents many times. In their name, and I assume in the name of so many others, I thank you for this outstanding piece of Historic information, of wich is way too less educated at Dutch schools today... Wat strikes me most is how these "leaders" looked so confidend during their reighn of terror, and afterwards they looked so defeated, feared and worried. Their non-verbal bodylanguage says it all: they knew all of what attrocety's they were responsible for... and they got what they deserved. And overall; it's a tragedy of Human kind, wich is still going on today.
18:40 - as an Austrian, to hear somebody talk in this accent is uncomfortable. Not because of any “collective guilt” (a highly nonsensical concept) but because I still remember that, when I was a child, I heard some older people talk exactly like this. No insight, no acceptance, no “we lived under a dictatorship, you yourself would not have done any different“, no, just no insight, no acceptance, “we did nothing wrong”. To listen to this recording feels just as comfortable as being reminded of how a rotting corpse smells, a faint memory of a nightmare of stubborn ignorance.
There's an argument about this......Other accounts say that the Czech government in exile wanted to show to the Allies and the world that the Czechs and Slovaks were in the for the fight. On another note, the RAF plane that was supposed to drop the resistance fighters cancelled at the last minute. The Czechs had to look elsewhere, but the Poles stepped up and lent them a special ops plane to ferry them all the way.
Honest of you to admit…but quite incredible that you’ve never come across this information as it’s so significant. Please visit the memorial site at Woeste Hoeve, I often go there on the 4th of May.
Yea we forgot we were fighting communism like the Germans, so we destroyed the Germans now we got communism up the arse, so good luck with learning anything from the past.
I'm rather surprised, to be , apparently, the first commenter to mention that one of his victims , who nearly died during the famine winter, was the young British schoolgirl, ballerina, actress, and Dutch Resistance courier Audrey Hepburn. Ironically, although they were both British subjects, both her parents were Nazi sympathizers in the 1930's, (her father ran around with Oswald Moseley. Her mother later renounced it all), both of whom actually got to meet Hitler during this period. This is covered in her biography 'Dutch Girl", published a few years ago
I was just reading about Wallis Simpson and Edward's visit to meet Hitler in '38. Apparently they'd been rubbing shoulders with Moseley as well. Whatever it took to knock back the Communists, was their thing evidently. Regardless of the side effects of that. People with such shallow understanding of social cause and effect.
This is veeeery scary. I was tomorrow having a conversation with my son about this subject while passing The Woeste Hoeve Memorial. We had a nice walk at “Loenermark” . He is 12 years old and also very interested about the second world war (and history in general). We just came home and found this video!!!! How did you knew Mr. Dr. Mark? 😮
This could very well be more than coincidence - I suspect your phone is being tracked, and the info winds its way to the youtube algorithm. I could tell you a couple of experiences I've had with that sort of thing (not terribly exciting stories, though; just suddenly having recommendations pop up on youtube related to somewhere I've been or something I've been doing). And, no, I'm not by nature a conspiracy nut.
@@hilariousname6826well the video was published by Dr. Mark round the same time i drove by the monument and spoke about it to my son. Not only popping up in my recommendations. Just a coincidence. But what are the odd…
Seyss-Inquart's tunic (4:30) can be seen at the Oorlogsmuseum (War Museum) in Overloon, Netherlands (I immediately recognized the display, when you enter the museum, it's the first hall on the right and then immediately on the right again). The Oorlogsmuseum Overloon is one of my favorite places to visit, it has an incredible collection of American, British and German vehicles from WW2, as well as multiple displays with aircraft munition. If you're ever in the southern part of the Netherlands, I'd highly recommend visiting it, the average Mark Felton enjoyer will enjoy that too! Oh, and no, this isn't a paid advertisement, if only, I wish... 😏
the famine had 3 causes of which the first two never get attention: 1. no more coal coming from limburg province after the allies took over the south. 2. railway strike ordered by dutch government in london which had no effect on the germans. 3. blockage of food from the east by the germans as punishment for the railway strike.
My Uncle drove a truck in the Canadian army. There must have been a lot of drivers as until Antwerp came on line all supplies were trucked from Normandy. There were endless convoys of trucks rolling through France and Belgium in 44-45. He befriended a dutch girl as so many did but it was all innocent. They kept in touch over the years and in 1990 his son and I visited her and her family. Even 45 years later the Dutch people had extremely warm feelings towards Canadians. They couldn’t do enough for us. They were so grateful to be rid of the Nazis. They even forgave the Canadians for all the destruction due to shelling and bombing and there was a lot.
A late friend of mine here in the US was a teenager during the "hunger winter." She had many war stories. My uncle's squadron participated in dropped food into Holland during the hunger winter/spring of '45.
Rauter surprised his own execution squad by yelling "Fire!" just before the commandant was supposed to do this. The execution squad was surprised by this and actually fired upon this.
@@grewdpastorUnlike Americans, a great percentage, if not a majority of Europeans are multilingual. and Dutch is a Germanic language, somit is almost certain that Rauter and his executioners were co-lingual.
It's not true about VPNs. Whoever is owning the gateways can also see every bit of traffic that is passed from or to you. You can only regard it as less risky.
I only recently heard that for the first time. Yet it pops up again & again. Even the security training at work recommends it as a way to confuse cyber criminals.
@@DumpfWearsDiapers But RAM can still be inspected. RAM dumps exist and the idea that "its incrypted bruh" doesn't hold up, as the traffic has to be de-crypted at the endpoint (NordVPN) and then exits out of their infrastructure. At the decryption point, the traffic can be inspected and you are absolutely identifiable. You are after all, required to log in with a useraccount, pay with e.g. your creditcard and then connect from your public home IP address to the NordVPN infrastructure. All of that metadata together is more then plenty to know who you are, on top of that DNS is still mostly unencrypted so at the exit point (NordVPN) the DNS traffic can be inspected to know what websites and services you are using, and even what sort of computer or device (e.g. Windows machines talk to Microsoft update services/time servers, Androids talk to specific Google services). People are out of their mind when paying for these VPN's when almost none of them have been, or have published independent audit reports. Mullvad is the only one I know that does this, but even then, be careful.
It did not happen in Holland. But Gelderland. Holland are two areas near the coast. Its the same as something happens in Scotland but we say England....
you are being pedantic, it is very common even for Nederlanders to refer to themselves as 'Hollanders' . Mark used it as an effect for the title of this video. please add your family's story in WW2. by learning, maybe we can break the awful cycle of war for good.
There is a video of German soldier prisoner caught by the British. He said when caught, we are in for it now, because of the way we treated the Dutch. He said the British said war over for you mate, gave him tea, biscuits and chocolate. He said he felt so ashamed at being treated so good considering what they had done. But might be a number of reasons to be treated good. First a compliant well behaved prisoner doesn't take up too much man power to look after. Second you can't punish thousands of prisoners but physiologically you can make them feel bad by treating them well.
Two years ago now, I was passing through this area on my way to Groningen. On a busy highway, with flower fields, lovely horse farms, canals and farmer protests, I came across a small inscription on a stone: “In memory of the deportation of the Jewish community.” Here I was, caught up in all this beauty, as well as list in my own problems, and I find a stark reminder of the organized cruelty that unfolded here. This video does a good job of explaining the effectiveness of the Nazi threats of retribution, and it shows one more thing. The British willingness to further its aims at the expense of the local population, and even its own local actors. I predict the greatest theme of the history of our time will be the diminution of the rights and personal freedoms of the individual against the state, corporations, the church and even more actors. This video provides a glimpse of how that works in the extreme.
@@terencefranks1688 I think that sentiment is shared by a lot of people, in a lot of countries. My issue is not the ends but the means. Do you favor the Russians in the present day conflict?
@@tanquerayandchronic5308 simple - if the west had'nt meddled in Ukraine,from at least 2014,this conflict might have never started - even Merkel admitted that the Minsk accords were only used to buy time to arm Ukraine. war is a hard thing to engage in,but seeing that things have gone to their present level in Ukraine,it looks as if Russia is on the way to victory - the sad thing is that it's brother/cousin,killing brother/cousin,on the instigation of the west - peace could have been attained in Ukraine,quite some time ago,but Bojo scuppered that one !
My aunt's husband was a kid during the famine in Holland. He was given two small pieces of bread, and then he had to sit on the roof with a fishing line and hook and catch a seagull. He was only allowed to lose one piece of bread. That was his job.
There is parts of this operation that sounds like parts of incidents my Opa and Oma spoke of. As far as I know, he was quite senior in the Dutch resistance. They had acquired a number of SS uniforms and they were quite foolishly bold with them according to my Oma who gave him a bollocking for the stunt before the operation. After the hit had to hide in a river (Rhine?) for three days. Sometimes breathing through a tube when the SS dogs got close. I’d love to find out more about him. They hid allied pilots in their roof. He spoke little of what he had done. This (or an operation similar) was one of the few things he shared.
I always confuse the attempt on Rauter with what happened near Putten in the night of 30 September to 1 October 1944. An almost identical event, although this attempt was actually planned. 540 men, out of a group of 601, were deported to concentration camps in Germany and perished. Only 48 men returned back after the war, of whom 5 died because of the depreviations suffered in German concentration camps. Originally, 659 men were selected for punishment - 58 of the original group were released on medical grounds (!) - 13 jumped out of the train en route to its destination What is rather puzzling about this grisly event, is that Dutch resistance members carried out an attempt on German army officers, knowing full well about the reprisals that would follow. It is even unclear who ordered the attempt near Putten. The fact that the targets were no high value targets like Rauter or Heydrich, is even more confusing. On the other hand, instead of outright executing the men who were taken, the Germans deported most of them to concentration camps in Germany where the working and living conditions were so appalling, that most perished.
That would be pointless if their reprehensible motivations are not researched from their own points of view. Remembering pointless monsters is useless as nobody will understand how and why they went on the wrong path. All humans are born innocent. understanding and remembering how they came to think they were doing a service to Germany to justify their actions, is the correct use of history. it is important to notice that there is a strong resistance to do this which clearly indicate that people may fear their motivations are not as easily swayed aside as evident nonsense. As a result new generations learn that there existed monsters whose motivations are unknown since monsters do not need motivations who committed atrocities. Absolutely nothing can be learned from such simplified history.
The old proverb, the handwriting is on the wall. You would think these guys would think twice considering the Allies are right around the corner. But they just kept killing people to the end. I'm glad they were brought to justice.
I’ve seen current far leftists and communists on Reddit and Discord talking about the need for re-education camps and mass “relocations” of conservatives. History repeats itself and people never learn.
@@quintrankid8045 They are too arrogant to consider themselves subject to such things. And yes, I know people IRL...not just Reddit types....who are liberal/leftist who hold those views.
Wow! As we all say repeatedly, these are just so well done and so much better than any of the junk on the History Channel here in the US. Really good and interesting stuff. Thank you!!!
Fascinating topic. All occupied Europe suffered during the war, but you don't hear a lot about Holland. I had the pleasure of visiting Holland in the '80's and they really are nice people.
The good doctor pronounces German quite well, but I noticed he avoided the Dutch SCH as in Scheveningen. Just pretend you’re a cat coughing up a fur ball.
When I was married, one of my husband's friends swore he knew the pronunciation of Scheveningen, having worked on it due to them all being chess fans. Alas, he didn't understand that Dutch & German are different languages and also sttessed the wrong syllable. When I told him we were going to Scheveningen for the start of honeymoon, he looked like he'd swallowed a lemon.
In the Netherlands, during the German occupation, the resistance members tested any newcomer by asking them to pronounce the town name of 'Scheveningen'. Germans could not do so, thus were "hung by their own petard," as the English would say. I would have thought schavenhagen to be more difficult for a non English speaker to pronounce correctly, but then I wasn't there. My uncle was
In Crete is was 25 Greeks for 1 German. Obviously racial - Dutch being "Aryans", Greeks being racially mixed but once the founders of Europe and Poles being just "subhumans".
My Uncle was a Dutch Resistance operator who was "turned in" by a Dutch NSB'er Dentist in A'dam. He was in a interogation prison in Amsterdam and escaped out a barred window to Ijmuiden (Port City on North Sea). He and another Dutch Underground member got into a rowboat and were eventually picked up by a British Navy patrol boat and interogated. He was then sent BACK to Holland via parachute for a specific mission, then picked up off the coast of Holland and debriefed by the British. He was then sent to RAF Spitfire training and became a pilot for the 322nd RAF Dutch Spitfire Squadron. He was shot down and killed over Holland 3 weeks before the end of the war in April 1945.
IJmuiden is capitalised as if IJ is a single letter
@@tamarabrugarathat’s all you took from this comment , Jesus lord
@@tamarabrugara They executed most of 'em at the end of the war, but apparently there are still a few Grammar Nazis still around.
Really? What was his name
@@tamarabrugara Tamara, ik verwacht niet dat je veel uitnodigingen krijgt voor feestjes.
Thirty five years ago I was on a Canadian hockey team playing at an international tournament in Hertogenbosch Holland. We had great fun while over there and the Dutch women we met were just wonderful. One such sweetheart wanted me to meet with her grandparents. Apparently they had survived the brutal treatment by the Nazis during the war and they never forgot the Canadian soldiers that liberated them. It was a wonderful experience and made me so proud not only of my country but of all the allies who served their countries. They were truly special.
's Hertogenbosch is a city in the province Noord Brabant, not as you falsely believe in Holland. Btw the country is called the Netherlands.
So , imagine Justina having SS fan club in your parlament...Live in tv....And he is still there with all the others...😊
@@mariadamen7886 I see you edited your post . I assume you removed the friendly part .
The author Farley Mowat sp.?,negotiated the surrender of the nazi army so the Netherlands weren't taken overly russia
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Among the SS victims was a cousin of mine, Peter Pooters, who was with the CS-6 Resistance Group In Amsterdam. His sister Nel Pooters survived the war to tell me before she died in 2000 about life under the Nazis, their groups activities, and by that time I was a USAF Security Policeman. I was third in the family here to serve in the U.S. miltary, soon to have a daughter go the same way in miltary law enforcement. Thanks for this, Dr. Felton!
The “gud” guy’s won every war in history & they wrote about how they are gud & of course the people they slaughtered were the “baddie’s” or the “monster’s” 🙄 i mean just look at every western government today if you still believe that nonsense.
They where not victims but casulties
Was your cousin a communist?
I see those days returning, probably during the 7 year tribulation ergo VERY SOON.
Time to start getting fit and healthy, healthy in body, healthy in mind.
@@targetmann100ifythey were VICTIMS!!! They were not trained SOLDIERS!!!
Being Dutch, I want to thank you for doing an item on this monster Hanns Albin Rauter or, as one Dutch historian named him, "the Vulture from the Alps"!
Have you watched the movie?
How’s your country doing now commie? You love the Muslim diversity yet? Dork
@@sveltergamer5934 Which movie?
@@S.D._Amersfoort Anthropoid it's based on this event of the resistance and the shooting of the high ranking Nazi in his car Mark shows in this video
I am half German and half Dutch, live in Germany and am ashamed of the actions of the Nazi regime.
For many years one of the victims shot at the Woeste Hoeve was unidentified. A Dutch journalsit found out that this unknown person was a Polish pilot, Czesław Oberdak, Flying Officer of 306 Squadron. He was caught when trying to reach liberated Dutch area together with an other airman he met when hidden by the resistance. December 1944, both wearing civilian cloathing were regarded by the Germans as terrorists and locked up in a prison. Shot march 1945 and buried as a unknown Dutchman. His sister Ludmila kept looking for him many years after the war. She wrote a letter 1990 to a local newspaper when she learned her brother had crashlanded in that area. After the use of DNA it was possible to identify him. In 2008 His sister received his watch he was wearing. The shoes he wore, found in his grave, were rubber soled RAF issue for ground crew, rubber soled to prevent damage when walking on the wings of aircraft. These shoes were quite popular with pilots who at times wore them for flying duties. In December 2009 he was reburied in the family grave in Krakow with military honours in the presence of his siter Ludmila. 60 years after he had left Poland.
Sad, but beautiful story.....war is never pretty
They where not victims but casulties
Hi there, Dr.Felton. My name is Stefan, I am from one of the small country members of EU, Republic of Bulgaria. I am here today to thank you and mark my interest through not just raising a national flag, practically I will raise 5 flags at least, in honour of this channel. And, since some of the flags I could not find on our emogical sing pallet, I am adding also my manual descriptions: 🇧🇬 🏴 🏴 🇮🇪 🏴, Flag of Northern Ireland (Red cross on whit background, with a 6-pointed star in the centre, a red hand inside star, and a crown right above the star), Flag of Isle of Man (Triskelion in white and gold on a red background). After this, I have to say, that I sometimes visit this channel with a feeling of support and my friends and I, who have a rich academic background, later often discuss topics from videos on the channel. So, I recently noted to one of my fellow colleagues from New Bulgarian University, that I am not sure you have yet become a professor of history, as an academic status, BUT IF THIS ever depended on any committee in my home country, Bulgaria, I would grant it happening at an official ceremony! 🌞✨⭐ I, actually, nowadays sincerely recommend you and your work to any prominent historian around me and my friend crowd. We are mainly IT workers, engineers above the age of 50, and older and young historians. Taking ourselves seriously 😃😉 And, definitely, very interested in your work. Thanks to it, today we have another question to ask. With a few more details. Most of our youngest members are alumni of national universities, such as Sofia University and American University in Bulgaria, New Bulgarian University, Veliko Tarnovo University or Plovdiv University. So, they get to visit your channel, share anything they find important for their knowledge, and we often have a discussion on Hitler and Nazi history. These days one new question arose after discussions, following us also watching together a video of yours, on the topic of Hilter possibly killing our last kind, Tzar Boris III, may God rest our Tzar's soul. Thus, I am, as always, impressed by your inclusive and elaborate analysis in one shot, precise video and photo materials. And our new question is... What happened to Argentina's Jews or Jews in Cuba, such parts of South and Latin America, is there much information for them. As I remember, in a 20-year old movie about Frida Kahlo, it is mentioned, that her father was some kind of Jewish. What about Jews under the reign of the Peron family? Is it possible, that information exists even here, and maybe we did not find it? My best, greetings to all. Stefan, IT and sometimes art of history. 👍👍✌️
@@targetmann100ify These hostages were murdered, thats a crime thus victims. They were shot not after a suitable trial were they could defend themselves. The Polish pilot was also a prisoner of war and should be treated as such even when he was not in full uniform.
A loyal sister…
As a Canadian whose parents are Dutch I can't how much I appreciate your coverage of nazi atrocities in Holland during the war. My parents and grandparents well remember those times when one of my grandfathers was one of the 500 000 shipped to Germany. Only he escaped by jumping the train that was carrying to the slave labour factories in Germany. My mum remembers the day the Canadians liberated her town in Holland. It was early one morning when she, my grandparents, aunts and uncles were awakened by someone banging on their door. It was one of mum's yelling "The tommies are here!" That was a day my mum will never forget!
My grandfather was picked off the streets in The Hague for forced labour in Germany. My grandmother was starving and sick and made long walks to get some food from farmers to keep her children alive. She once was raped on one of those ´hongertochten´. When my grandfather came back after almost 2 years he was covered in boils and very sick. He never regained his health. My grandmother was a hero to me to survive the war and the years after that. Not all heroes were in the resistance or the army. They only tried to survive. A lot of people are saying that the Dutch citizens did not resist enough, but I think that is so unfair.
Mighty easy for others to cast stones, particularly when they have not experienced those trials.
Reading some of these amazing comments left by people telling us about their brave , heroic relatives is so touching. Thank you for sharing what amount to family stories. What a great job you do Mark.
I was born in that area. At "de Woeste Hoeve" there is an Inn. It was one of the first things I learned from my parents about WW2. Three years ago I had a coffee at the Inn with my wife. It is a peaceful place but I always remember that a monster was almost executed there and a lot of innocent people died instead. After the war he did not regret anything. Rauter was a demon.
I don't really know so I'll take your word for that. But in this video you see him at the end on trial talking about how he had admitted to what happened in his sector and the orders that he followed. All while saying the other things that people were saying about him were lies.
Why would this man knowing the consequences stand up there and tell the truth about one part and then lie about another part?
It was pretty convincing what he said about the lies being told?
The real question is what exactly were those lies about?
@@Mr._Infamous Not really quite sure what you're alluding to ... but listening to the Rauter and paraphrasing him, it sounded very much like the usual excuse of "not my fault, couldn't see that I was doing anything wrong and I was only following orders".
I call the ambush of these "resistance"-guys attempted murder. They were no soldiers.
Rene, I've tried to put myself into the mindset of these monsters and can't. It must be the depths that hatred can reach when you systematically murder countless humans beings.
@@oldfella3919 I agree you're exactly right. Now what about the part where he mentioned the lies?
I don't know exactly what he's talking about when he says these lies but I sure would like to know specifically what allegations he's talking about.
My uncle wrote many, many letters home to my mom. They range from training camps, on board train to dispersal camp, on board ship to England, from Sicily, and Italy. But the most heartfelt and, in some ways, most terrible were the letters from the Netherlands. A beautiful country destroyed, it's people defeated and subject to a horrible tyranny, starved, tortured, humiliated, and murdered. There was deep-seated hatred for the NAZI oppressors by the liberating Canadian troops for what they did, but no amount of care, food, medicine, or anything else needed by the Dutch population was spared and gladly shared by the Canadian liberators. The Canadians never forgot the welcome they received, and the Dutch never forgot the Canadians.
I will be there next year to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the liberation.
It's no wonder Dutch started doing Euthanasia after wwii with all that killing.. It couldn't help but affect your world view if you were vulnerable. People ground under Nazis, starving and feeling abandoned, must have felt life wasn't worth living, esp. If they were being made into "reprisals" and executed.
The Dutch adopt all of the thousands of war graves in their country. They've never forgotten the sacrifices made by their liberators.
You are absolutely right we never forgot who liberated us. My grandad had a farm in the northern part of Holland. The bomber crew of a downed bomber (not far from the farm of my grandad) are buried at the local cemetery. Each year on the 4th of may we pay our respect there, and lay flowers at their grave. We were liberated by the Canadians. My mother got a beret with pin from one of the soldiers. I still got the pin: it is from the Cape Breton Highlanders. We keep our liberators in the highest regard. 🫡
Yeah the Germans Army didn't have care, food, medicine or anything else really needed either at this point in the war.
"A beautiful country destroyed, it's people defeated and subject to a horrible tyranny, starved, tortured, humiliated, and murdered"
Actually the German soldiers came here for rest and recreation - they felt safe here because the population was not agressive - plenty of letters from German soldiers prove that, at least for the first years of the war.
There was devastation - sure, but apart from Rotterdam and the war damage in parts of the South, The Netherlands escaped relatively unscathed. To describe my country as 'destroyed' is a misconception, some parts remained untouched by war. Resistance was also late, many people did not think anything of the Germans except from occupiers of course. Many accepted the new situation as well - of all occupied countries, most Jews were taken from The Netherlands.
It's 100% true that we love our Canadian liberators. We will never forget them.
Thank you for making this video. My great grandfather was one of the prisoners killed at the Woeste Hoeve as a result of the ambush on Rauter. He was a dentist and member of the resistance. It is really a tragedy that my grandfather and his two brothers had to grow up without their father because of these senseless reprisals. To honor him a street in Hoogeveen is named after him.
What's its name?
@@Karl-nv5ok Tandarts Schipperstraat
My grandmother’s uncle was also in the resistance and got executed at the Woeste Hoeve as well. P Tjittes, think he has a little tile with his name on it im the street he used to live in. My grandparents 92 and 90 still have so many stories of world war 2.
Also one German victim, Oberwachtmeister der Ordnungspolizei Helmut Seijffards refused to execute 116 dutch hostages at the "De Woeste Hoeve" who had to die after the attemp to kill Hanns Albin Rauter. He was taken prisoner and was executed at the same spot as the 116 dutch hostages. He was burried with them in one grave.
From some googling: "The Helmut Seijffards that was executed at Woeste Hoeve on March 8, 1945, was a born Czech Polish national, who ended up in The Netherlands and was arrested for his communist sympathies. He was one of 25 who was selected for the execution at Woeste Hoeve as a reprisal for the attack on SS Obergruppenfuhrer Hanns Rauter on March 6. "
Thank you❤
Interesting the rumor of a Nazi refusing to participate in reprisals was started by a historian Loe de Jong who did so incorrectly. The named Helmut Seijffards was a "Czech Polish national, who ended up in The Netherlands and was arrested for his communist sympathies. The was imprisoned in SS-camp Vught, somehow escaped, but was arrested again in December 1944 and imprisoned in Kruisberg prison in Doetinchem. He was one of 25 who was selected for the execution at Woeste Hoeve as a reprisal for the attack on SS Obergruppenfuhrer Hanns Rauter on March 6." - Richard Schuurman = Richard D. Scheuerman (historian & published author)
Ya, Nazi victims. No. Despite his consciousness at the end, it doesn't matter. He was part of the killing machine.
Now I don't know who to believe. Fake news?
As a Dutch, born after WWII, I thank you for your contribution to clearing up this part of history. As always your channel provides great insight on many issues regarding WWII.
A BIG THANK YOU FOR THAT!
My grandfather who lived in Amsterdam North was arrested by German officers when he walked in the street minding he's business. Was deported to Köln and forced to work as a firemen together with Russian POW's and lived in a labor camp. He got sick with pleurisy and nearly did not survive. Luckily he lived to be 91 and died in 2014.
Amazing, I'm Dutch, and have very good knowledge of WWII, but you caught me completely off guard with this story Mark. You keep pulling unique stories out of your bag! Big thanks for all your efforts.
wrong side won and now we are being replaced
Well, if you are Dutch and you find this story about the Rauter-ambush "unique" you can not seriously maintain to have "very good knowledge of WWII".
It is doubtful that you have very good knowledge about WW2. And the story told in this video was described long ago in one of the issues of After the Battle magazine.
SS.Dutch Volunteers Waffen SS divisions at Arnhem
I love reading everyone's personal stories in the comments and especially hearing about stores people heard from their parents and grandparents. Passing down family oral traditions is one of humanity's most fascinating activities.
So little of my parents experiences during the war (they were both in their teens) has been passed on, and by the time I had the chance to go to Holland to meet relatives and ask more questions my father had passed and my mother was losing her mind, so these videos are of great value to me. I do though know of my maternal grandfather who was a captain in the Dutch merchant marine, torpedoed twice, that has been confirmed, and members of a Dutch genealogy group have been ever so helpful and willing to pass on information they had accumulated.
@@johnstaring3210 I know how that is. See my story 4 comments up in reply to an Oma Opa story.
I remember that my grandfather told he biked over the Jan Gijzenvaart bridge in Haarlem. Next day he heard that three Dutch people randomly were shot on that bridge, only 10 minutes after he crossed the bridge. It makes you wonder, what if he had been there 10 minutes later....
The only obvious conclusion: you wouldn't be having this discussion.
My dad and his best friend tossed a coin as to who would take the Army officer on a joy ride. The friend never came back ( not did the officer ). And so I'm sat here telling you about it. C'est la vie.
Mostly state of emergency/wartime represaille. At the time this was not unusual or abnormal pactice in such extremely dangerous and difficult circumstances. It was done to discourage *illegal* actions against the state/state personnel by *civillians* /resistance fighters.
War is terrible, warcrimes are worse, warcrimes committed by the later victors (who want to get away scot-free afterwards, thinking the law does not apply to them and misusing victory to make that dream come true, accusing their horror victims of exactly what they themselves in fact did etc. etc.) are the worst.
Wow. I am a South African but my mom was born in Rotterdam. My grandmother told me stories about WWII that will live with me forever. Amstelveen close to Amsterdam, my grandmother told me of her jewish neighbors taken away, never to be seen again. German soldiers demanding food, blankets, pots and pans. She saw an American bomber crash into the last house in the row of her street of houses aiming to crash in an open field missing, just short killing all in the house plus the crew. My great-grandfather was taken by the Germans and worked in a Nazi labour camp until the wars end. The Dutch went through so much and is not well documented. Thank you Mark! This video struck a chord with me!
Many thanks.
You have shed light on an area of not only my family history but my wife's family history as well. Our roots are buried deep in exactly that area of the Netherlands.
Your good work is much appreciated.
I served in the South African diplomatic service. Our Embassy in The Hague (the building shown at 6:59 served as one of the Nazi headquarters in the NL. The building was donated to South Africa in the 50s after SA assisted the Dutch during the great flood.
It is situated in Wassenaarseweg, opposite Nassaubuurt, where my official residence was located. Apparently, when the Apartheid regime took over the building they found Nazi paraphernalia in the basement. Our Embassy is one of the most imposing in The Hague.
I miss the NL and learned so much from the Dutch. I miss the country.
Get home after a 14 hour shift and see a new Mark Felton video.. Ahhhh yes, life is good!!
14-hour shift? You must be in the west working and paying taxes for a corrupt government that supports Nazis in Ukraine and who used Nazis for the their space program.
Sam. I've studied WWII, ETO, since I was 20 years old. I just celebrated my 72th birthday. I know what you mean.
Cheers.
@@TheSaltydog07 Happy Birthday 🎉
14 hour work days is not a good life brother. I know. I'm a farmhand and work 80 hours a week.
@@joem3999 It’s def taking a toll on the health that’s for sure! All kinds of sleep issues now and high blood pressure. I’m a lab technician for a coal company so I’m on call 24/7 most weeks. This economy person has to work his life away to survive 😔
My Oma told me of three of her neighbors who were shot as hostages in Het Kalf, "For the crime of being Dutch and on their way home from work."
Because being Dutch was the problem, not any other reason I'm sure
They got their bicycles pinched too; so that was probably another.
@@lt.lasereyez8891 Yeah your right, The people OBSESSED with genetics and being german would have let the dutch keep going about their day
The germans thought of the dutch as genetically simular to them as a germanic brother people , had already used Dutch historical figures like Rembrant in propaganda aimed at Germans and initially aimed to nazify and radicalize the Dutch, as resistance kept up this slowly turned to collectively punishing the populous @gruggsming32
@@eltanko178 Hé Duitsers, breng onze fietsen terug.
My dad was a young child in Holland at this time. In his later years I only learnt a small amount of what his family endured with the occupation and lack of food. He moved to NZ in the fifties. Thank you Mark for providing this information and keeping this history alive. I really appreciate your efforts.
To hear him stridently defend himself! Thank you for posting that clip.
My Oma and Opa were kids sneaking around stealing food for their families. Seems like I’m pretty lucky to be here today. I have a Canadian Machete that my Opa had found in the back of a truck during his travels. Great story thank you for your work.
In 1971, my father took me to Den Hague, where I met my Oma and Opa. He was there for their Golden Wedding Anniversary. So I was fortunate to met them. Bible readings after every evening meal. Melik & Yogurt delivered by vender in the mornings. The Yogurt was in a plastic pouch. This is where my father grew up.
As a young man, after the war ended, my father joined the Dutch Army and was posted to the Dutch East Indies. After serving time there, he discharged and went back home and worked as an accountant. One of his army mates (Dick Menisse (not sure I spelt that correctly, going by memory)) sent him a letter from New Zealand and encouraged him to come out on a work scheme. He left everything and came out on one of the transport ships in the early 1950's.
In all the years from when I was born, till the day he died, he wouldn't teach us Dutch. We might have heard 2 stories about his life during the war. We have a O.V.W. medal that he used to wear in the R.S.A ANZAC parades. Never finished his memoirs that he started. I guess he left all the war and memories in the Netherlands and lived a full life in a new country. R.I.P dad.
😢❤️@@David-yo5ws
They thought they were getting a truck load of pork......
What they got was a truck load of pigs.💀
BMW drivers already had a bad reputation back then.
@@flitsertheo 😆
😂🤣😅
Yup, pigs are brutal monsters
@@outofturn331 "Cats look down on us. Dogs look up to us. Pigs treat us as equals." Churchill
A met a Dutch man a few years ago who told me his anecdote about hunger. He was a post-WWII child born to parents who experienced the Netherland's mass starvation first hand. He said that when he was a kid and would complain to his mother that he was hungry, Mom said "you are not hungry, you just have hungers." He never understood what she was saying until later on in life when he learned of the Nazis' starvation of the Dutch population in 1944-45. To this day, he said, the Dutch welcome their American, British, and Canadian liberators with open arms.
Not all heroes were from the resistance or army. My grandfather was picked off the streets for forced labour in Germany and my grandmother was starving and sick trying to keep her children alive. After the war she got a very sick husband back coverd in boils that never regained his health back. They had no possibility to resist but surviving was all they had energy for.
Absolutely riveting. Thank you Mark for bringing these accounts to light....
As a born Dutch citizen on Aruba. I have lived and studied for 8 years in Arnhem in the Netherlands. I have studied at MBO CIOS Arnhem Sports and movements . We went in to the Ardennes with school in 2010 for internship in french Belgium Houffalize for outdoorsports keuzevak. Amazing times. While we we're at the Ardennes there were spicific routs marked , that we had to take marked with orange ribbons to get from bivak to bivak! Till we got to the stuwmeer. It was an awesome experience. While living in the Netherlands I have played baseball in Amersfoort mencioned in this documantary. The baseball field in Amersfoort is located almost right next to the hospital at Dorresteinsesteeg 2 Amersfoort BSC Quick. I find it always interesting when Mark post something about ww2 and it had some small little thing to do with where I have been.
It is remarkable how human beings can rationalize the evil they do.
Evil people never see themselves as evil; they rationalize what they do
Goes on today
Human beings rationalise everything as an excuse to do evil in all it's nuances.
wrong side won and now we are being replaced
And they don’t even need to be Nazis.
As a Dutchman I thank you for giving attention to this part of WW2 History of my homeland. As an excellent historian it might be interesting for you looking in to the battle for the Afsluitdijk in may 1940, the only part of Western Europe the Germans didn’t succeed in conquering. It is an interesting story!
Christian Boer HERO
I find it difficult to distinguish between an officer or Nazi official who orders reprisal killings / mass murder and the soldiers who execute those orders. How many thousands of German soldiers knowingly shot and killed innocent civilians and simply walked away to live out their full lives. It must have haunted the relatives of those murdered for years after.
Tens of thousands and not just Germans but their allies throughout Europe
Another great video from Mark! ♥
On a similar note, I have always felt not enough SS or Nazi leadership ever paid a severe enough price for their crimes. A lot of SS and even the guilty soldiers of the Wehrmacht escaped any justice at all.
I recently helped a young German understand that the Wehrmacht were not as innocent of crimes as he was taught. He kept blaming the "little moustache Man" man for everything. I had to remind him that his great grandparents and grandparents probably proudly flew the swastika without any shame and more than likely believed in Hitler's rhetoric. Most Germans gladly participated in the hate.
I was amazed at how little he had learned in school in Germany about that era. To be fair, it is just as scary how many American kids are just as clueless. It is the lack of knowledge contributing as to why we keep repeating the horrible things of history. Mark's videos would be a great addition to history class at all levels of high school.
That is odd. In the curricula of German schools the German role and guilt is extensively discussed for many, many years. So I think that young German was either trolling you or was a secret sympathizer of the right wing AfD (Alternative fuer Deutschland, a party with a nucleus of Nazi sympathisers)
Europe was a mess after ww2 and unfortunately only the high ranking that were caught were tried. The German prisoners in the east though suffered
You sound clueless yourself.
Thank you for the consistently interesting content. While many historians seem to struggle to find content to discuss, Dr. Felton continues to seamlessly and tirelessly bring us amazing historical content.
It’s Sunday morning. I got done with church. Having coffee. And watching Mark FRIGGIN Felton! What could be better?
I just completed reading Three Ordinary Girls: The remarkable story of three dutch teenagers who became spies, saboteurs, nazi assassins, and WWII heroes by Tim Brady. Your video put faces to the names and places in the book. Thanks so much for a wonderful documentary.
What a great start to a Sunday morning, coffee and a Mark Felton bit
This story serves to underline the threat to ordinary people from dictators and their underlings.
Even Mark's COMMERCIALS aren't so bad. This is a world-classy site for history buffs.
The technical ability of German surgeons at the time amazes me.
that's just one of the plethora of things that captivate me about the Germans of that era.
@@apacifistmachinegunner669 what's more interesting is how the most advanced country in the world ended up a genocidal police state. How much of a hostile takeover were the Nazis if any?
...particularly a certain Dr Josef Mengele ?
Rauter was fixed by a Dutch surgeon...
Watching from Tokyo this evening, thanks for sharing this important history Dr. Felton.
I prefer 'Netherlands' but I understand with Himmler and henchman in the title you say 'Holland'. Thanks for bringing attention to my country in WW2.
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Haha yes, lets not forget about the other provinces
It's like calling all Americans YANKEES... Especially in the South.
Door zulke comments denkt iedereen dat Nederland vol met zeikerds zit, groeten van een Brabander.
@@WarlockGhorst being from the South , truer words could not be spoken!
Thank you for this video Mark. I have been to the Netherlands a few times, and I’ve often wondered about the Dutch Resistance and war criminals. As a Canadian, I am proud of the role Canada played in the liberation of the Netherlands.
Every Dutchman knows about the role of Canada in the liberation of the Netherlands. Each year, we used to have Canadian veterans over. As schoolkids we handed flowers to them. It seems they even taught us baseball, which we've played ever since.
We owe Canada so much.
I'm currently studying in Apeldoorn and always thought it was quite a dull place. Never knew something like these took place where I study!
I understand the old command bunker of Seyss-Inquart was restored a few years ago and can be visited.
all you can do is be grateful that you live in such boring times
@@theorenhobartTrue words
@@theorenhobart that's very true mate
@@TheEvertw hmmm maybe have to take a trip to it when I have classes there next time.
He studied his conscience for three years and decided that he did nothing wrong.
Well of course he did.
He would fit right in with the current waves of Karens who, when caught red-handed committing various crimes, loudly scream "What did I do wrong? I didn't do anything wrong! I promise!"
In another life he could have been a defence lawyer.
Allied officers who interrogated Senior German officers and officials after capture were routinely stunned by the lack of accountability shown... the most horrific atrocities were described as "mistakes", and only by the "SS"...which was of course not even remotely true. Apparently the one thing that shocked those officers and officials was that somehow THEY might be seen to be in any way responsible. It was pointed out that even Manstein - a brilliant General in many ways - certainly did NOT include any mention of his "Commissar Order" and other brutal and illegal policies HE supported ..in his post war book "Lost Victories".
all governments are comprised of individuals who would investigate themselves and find that they've done no wrong, even when the cost of admitting guilt would be nothing more than public embarrassment. of course indeed
@@trooperdgb9722 Few years down the line and Manstein was in charge of building a new German army...These people have no shame.
Bedankt Mark! Groet uit Groningen
Sunday mornings aren't a full completion without a Mark Felton video to expand my knowledge bank.
Sunday bedtime for me!
My understanding is that the horrific Vught concentration camp wasn't 'liberated' by British units once they finally crossed the Nederijn at Arnhem in 1945. No, most of the prisoners had already been 'evacuated' (aka death-marched) away by then, leaving only the dead and the dying in quite appalling conditions of starvation and disease. Some British soldiers kept diaries of their campaign experiences. Vught sounds utterly, utterly ghastly.
Vught is south of the Rijn and on the road between Eindhoven and 's-Hertogenbosch, so it was marginal to the XXX Corps MARKET GARDEN corridor in September 1944 and in the British XII Corps axis of advance, so it would have been evacuated at that time. In fact, General Kurt Student's 1.Fallschirm-Armee headquarters was in the villa Bergen at Vught, and close by was the glider crash site that yielded documents revealing to Student the airborne resupply schedule, which Model then dismissed.
As a Dutchman of 63 I heard the story's of the occupation from my parents many times. In their name, and I assume in the name of so many others, I thank you for this outstanding piece of Historic information, of wich is way too less educated at Dutch schools today...
Wat strikes me most is how these "leaders" looked so confidend during their reighn of terror, and afterwards they looked so defeated, feared and worried. Their non-verbal bodylanguage says it all: they knew all of what attrocety's they were responsible for...
and they got what they deserved.
And overall; it's a tragedy of Human kind, wich is still going on today.
18:40 - as an Austrian, to hear somebody talk in this accent is uncomfortable. Not because of any “collective guilt” (a highly nonsensical concept) but because I still remember that, when I was a child, I heard some older people talk exactly like this. No insight, no acceptance, no “we lived under a dictatorship, you yourself would not have done any different“, no, just no insight, no acceptance, “we did nothing wrong”. To listen to this recording feels just as comfortable as being reminded of how a rotting corpse smells, a faint memory of a nightmare of stubborn ignorance.
Thank you for your deeply moving words. 🙏💖
Me: "I'm going to be so productive today!"
TH-cam: "Mark Felton has a new WWII video"
Me: "...right after this video...."
It's Sunday.... Day of rest
I made coffee before sitting down and hitting the play button.
When the Mark Felton intro kicks in 👄
Procrastination and Mark are the thieves of time! But Mark in a good way.
The Czech government in exile did NOT want to go after Heydrich as they knew what the reprisals would look like. However, the SOE insisted
There's an argument about this......Other accounts say that the Czech government in exile wanted to show to the Allies and the world that the Czechs and Slovaks were in the for the fight. On another note, the RAF plane that was supposed to drop the resistance fighters cancelled at the last minute. The Czechs had to look elsewhere, but the Poles stepped up and lent them a special ops plane to ferry them all the way.
Wow im Dutch and a student of WW2 history all my life but i never heard of Rauter before. Its amazing how Dr Felton comes up with these stories!
Het is vrij bijzonder, hoewel er zeer veel bekend is was er nooit veel interesse lijkt het. de UvA heeft een vrij korte archief pagina over de man.
Honest of you to admit…but quite incredible that you’ve never come across this information as it’s so significant.
Please visit the memorial site at Woeste Hoeve, I often go there on the 4th of May.
This is why I started watching Mark Felton over 6 years ago. Good stuff.
Check out, Hitler Rants featuring Mark Felton.
"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" -Churchill
The saying is older than Churchill
Coined by Georges Santayana.
Yea we forgot we were fighting communism like the Germans, so we destroyed the Germans now we got communism up the arse, so good luck with learning anything from the past.
Absolutely flawed sentence. Whether remembered or not, history is repeated.
As usual this was interesting and informative. Thanks Dr. Felton
I'm rather surprised, to be , apparently, the first commenter to mention that one of his victims , who nearly died during the famine winter, was the young British schoolgirl, ballerina, actress, and Dutch Resistance courier Audrey Hepburn.
Ironically, although they were both British subjects, both her parents were Nazi sympathizers in the 1930's, (her father ran around with Oswald Moseley. Her mother later renounced it all), both of whom actually got to meet Hitler during this period.
This is covered in her biography 'Dutch Girl", published a few years ago
I was just reading about Wallis Simpson and Edward's visit to meet Hitler in '38. Apparently they'd been rubbing shoulders with Moseley as well. Whatever it took to knock back the Communists, was their thing evidently. Regardless of the side effects of that. People with such shallow understanding of social cause and effect.
This is veeeery scary. I was tomorrow having a conversation with my son about this subject while passing The Woeste Hoeve
Memorial. We had a nice walk at “Loenermark” . He is 12 years old and also very interested about the second world war (and history in general). We just came home and found this video!!!! How did you knew Mr. Dr. Mark? 😮
Mark was watching you during your walk. Very scary indeed.
@@eddiefaccioni2453what is even more scary is that it apparently happened tomorrow!...😮😳
This could very well be more than coincidence - I suspect your phone is being tracked, and the info winds its way to the youtube algorithm. I could tell you a couple of experiences I've had with that sort of thing (not terribly exciting stories, though; just suddenly having recommendations pop up on youtube related to somewhere I've been or something I've been doing). And, no, I'm not by nature a conspiracy nut.
@@hilariousname6826well the video was published by Dr. Mark round the same time i drove by the monument and spoke about it to my son. Not only popping up in my recommendations. Just a coincidence. But what are the odd…
@@hyrondongle2473 Oh, I didn't catch that ... !
Always like both the content and detail of these presentations.Great stuff.Thanks.
We do learn about this in school, (Mussert and Inquart etc.) but not in this dept. Today i am still learning about my country ;)
Seyss-Inquart's tunic (4:30) can be seen at the Oorlogsmuseum (War Museum) in Overloon, Netherlands (I immediately recognized the display, when you enter the museum, it's the first hall on the right and then immediately on the right again). The Oorlogsmuseum Overloon is one of my favorite places to visit, it has an incredible collection of American, British and German vehicles from WW2, as well as multiple displays with aircraft munition. If you're ever in the southern part of the Netherlands, I'd highly recommend visiting it, the average Mark Felton enjoyer will enjoy that too! Oh, and no, this isn't a paid advertisement, if only, I wish... 😏
Love these hidden WW2 stories thank you Dr. Felton.
Good morning from Canada Dr Felton
the famine had 3 causes of which the first two never get attention:
1. no more coal coming from limburg province after the allies took over the south.
2. railway strike ordered by dutch government in london which had no effect on the germans.
3. blockage of food from the east by the germans as punishment for the railway strike.
My Uncle drove a truck in the Canadian army. There must have been a lot of drivers as until Antwerp came on line all supplies were trucked from Normandy. There were endless convoys of trucks rolling through France and Belgium in 44-45. He befriended a dutch girl as so many did but it was all innocent. They kept in touch over the years and in 1990 his son and I visited her and her family. Even 45 years later the Dutch people had extremely warm feelings towards Canadians. They couldn’t do enough for us. They were so grateful to be rid of the Nazis. They even forgave the Canadians for all the destruction due to shelling and bombing and there was a lot.
Yess another video on my country 😊 Greetings from the Netherlands
Your country supports Nazis
Fascinating. Hope all is well Doc. Greetings from Cheyenne, Wyoming.
A late friend of mine here in the US was a teenager during the "hunger winter." She had many war stories. My uncle's squadron participated in dropped food into Holland during the hunger winter/spring of '45.
No one has kept the world informed in ww2 history like you have done, what a remarkable talent in assembling all these facts!!!
Excellently researched again Dr Felton!
Perfect title. Between his tall lanky height, the face scar, and the jaw, he really does look like some kind of monster face.
You are such a great teacher of history! I mean that in you don’t dramatize and make it so easy to understand
Rauter surprised his own execution squad by yelling "Fire!" just before the commandant was supposed to do this. The execution squad was surprised by this and actually fired upon this.
Now I'm wondering if he gave the order in Dutch.
He cannot have done it in dutch: that would have been "VUUR". And I doubt a dutch firing squad would have reacted to the german "FEUER".
@@grewdpastor Why couldn't he have given the order in Dutch?
We don't know how well his Dutch pronunciation was.
Why didn't he lead with the word cease?
@@grewdpastorUnlike Americans, a great percentage, if not a majority of Europeans are multilingual. and Dutch is a Germanic language, somit is almost certain that Rauter and his executioners were co-lingual.
It's not true about VPNs. Whoever is owning the gateways can also see every bit of traffic that is passed from or to you. You can only regard it as less risky.
Nord is well trusted, all their servers are RAM. As long as you pay for the service of most VPN's and not use it free, you've nothing to worry about.
I only recently heard that for the first time. Yet it pops up again & again. Even the security training at work recommends it as a way to confuse cyber criminals.
i think it can also affect one's tv,if a VPN is used I i think it changes the IPA ?! ... had problems with it before.
All I know is that when I used a VPN, my banks and credit card holders refused to let me use their web sites with VPN turned on.
@@DumpfWearsDiapers But RAM can still be inspected. RAM dumps exist and the idea that "its incrypted bruh" doesn't hold up, as the traffic has to be de-crypted at the endpoint (NordVPN) and then exits out of their infrastructure. At the decryption point, the traffic can be inspected and you are absolutely identifiable. You are after all, required to log in with a useraccount, pay with e.g. your creditcard and then connect from your public home IP address to the NordVPN infrastructure. All of that metadata together is more then plenty to know who you are, on top of that DNS is still mostly unencrypted so at the exit point (NordVPN) the DNS traffic can be inspected to know what websites and services you are using, and even what sort of computer or device (e.g. Windows machines talk to Microsoft update services/time servers, Androids talk to specific Google services).
People are out of their mind when paying for these VPN's when almost none of them have been, or have published independent audit reports. Mullvad is the only one I know that does this, but even then, be careful.
It did not happen in Holland. But Gelderland. Holland are two areas near the coast. Its the same as something happens in Scotland but we say England....
you are being pedantic, it is very common even for Nederlanders to refer to themselves as 'Hollanders' . Mark used it as an effect for the title of this video. please add your family's story in WW2. by learning, maybe we can break the awful cycle of war for good.
@@theorenhobart No, not true, it's only common for those who don't care and want to please foreigners.
"There is no such thing as being excessive towards the unforgiveable."
There is a video of German soldier prisoner caught by the British. He said when caught, we are in for it now, because of the way we treated the Dutch. He said the British said war over for you mate, gave him tea, biscuits and chocolate. He said he felt so ashamed at being treated so good considering what they had done. But might be a number of reasons to be treated good. First a compliant well behaved prisoner doesn't take up too much man power to look after. Second you can't punish thousands of prisoners but physiologically you can make them feel bad by treating them well.
Two years ago now, I was passing through this area on my way to Groningen. On a busy highway, with flower fields, lovely horse farms, canals and farmer protests, I came across a small inscription on a stone: “In memory of the deportation of the Jewish community.” Here I was, caught up in all this beauty, as well as list in my own problems, and I find a stark reminder of the organized cruelty that unfolded here. This video does a good job of explaining the effectiveness of the Nazi threats of retribution, and it shows one more thing. The British willingness to further its aims at the expense of the local population, and even its own local actors.
I predict the greatest theme of the history of our time will be the diminution of the rights and personal freedoms of the individual against the state, corporations, the church and even more actors. This video provides a glimpse of how that works in the extreme.
the British willingless to further it's aims,extends nowadays to the Ukraine !
@@terencefranks1688 I think that sentiment is shared by a lot of people, in a lot of countries. My issue is not the ends but the means.
Do you favor the Russians in the present day conflict?
@@tanquerayandchronic5308 simple - if the west had'nt meddled in Ukraine,from at least 2014,this conflict might have never started - even Merkel admitted that the Minsk accords were only used to buy time to arm Ukraine.
war is a hard thing to engage in,but seeing that things have gone to their present level in Ukraine,it looks as if Russia is on the way to victory - the sad thing is that it's brother/cousin,killing brother/cousin,on the instigation of the west - peace could have been attained in Ukraine,quite some time ago,but Bojo scuppered that one !
Thanks Dr. Felton!
My aunt's husband was a kid during the famine in Holland. He was given two small pieces of bread, and then he had to sit on the roof with a fishing line and hook and catch a seagull. He was only allowed to lose one piece of bread. That was his job.
En nu willen we de boeren uitkopen🎉
My mother was one of those Dutch citizens sent to Germany for forced labour. She would not have a bad word said about the German people.
There is parts of this operation that sounds like parts of incidents my Opa and Oma spoke of. As far as I know, he was quite senior in the Dutch resistance. They had acquired a number of SS uniforms and they were quite foolishly bold with them according to my Oma who gave him a bollocking for the stunt before the operation.
After the hit had to hide in a river (Rhine?) for three days. Sometimes breathing through a tube when the SS dogs got close.
I’d love to find out more about him. They hid allied pilots in their roof. He spoke little of what he had done. This (or an operation similar) was one of the few things he shared.
Excellent video and fascinating information on a very unknown or at least very under publicized piece of history. Many thanks.
I always confuse the attempt on Rauter with what happened near Putten in the night of 30 September to 1 October 1944.
An almost identical event, although this attempt was actually planned.
540 men, out of a group of 601, were deported to concentration camps in Germany and perished.
Only 48 men returned back after the war, of whom 5 died because of the depreviations suffered in German concentration camps.
Originally, 659 men were selected for punishment
- 58 of the original group were released on medical grounds (!)
- 13 jumped out of the train en route to its destination
What is rather puzzling about this grisly event, is that Dutch resistance members carried out an attempt on German army officers, knowing full well about the reprisals that would follow. It is even unclear who ordered the attempt near Putten. The fact that the targets were no high value targets like Rauter or Heydrich, is even more confusing.
On the other hand, instead of outright executing the men who were taken, the Germans deported most of them to concentration camps in Germany where the working and living conditions were so appalling, that most perished.
Thank you for a fascinating well presented piece.
Glad to know not all war criminals didn't cheat the hangman
So there's still hope for Blair and Bush then.
The atrocities of these men should never be forgotten.
That would be pointless if their reprehensible motivations are not researched from their own points of view. Remembering pointless monsters is useless as nobody will understand how and why they went on the wrong path. All humans are born innocent. understanding and remembering how they came to think they were doing a service to Germany to justify their actions, is the correct use of history. it is important to notice that there is a strong resistance to do this which clearly indicate that people may fear their motivations are not as easily swayed aside as evident nonsense. As a result new generations learn that there existed monsters whose motivations are unknown since monsters do not need motivations who committed atrocities. Absolutely nothing can be learned from such simplified history.
Another very interesting in depth post by Dr Felton.
Another fascinating video ,Mark . Thank you . They are always a ,Must Watch . Have a great new week .
I had never hear of any of this; thank you Dr. Felton.
The old proverb, the handwriting is on the wall. You would think these guys would think twice considering the Allies are right around the corner. But they just kept killing people to the end. I'm glad they were brought to justice.
Ideology and arrogance can separate a person from reality.
I’ve seen current far leftists and communists on Reddit and Discord talking about the need for re-education camps and mass “relocations” of conservatives. History repeats itself and people never learn.
@jacobq.2204 people full of hate since the beginning. Never ending cycle of suffering.
@@jacobq.2204 Have you seen anyone ask them what will happen to the people who never learn?
@@quintrankid8045 They are too arrogant to consider themselves subject to such things. And yes, I know people IRL...not just Reddit types....who are liberal/leftist who hold those views.
Great video Dr Felton. Thank you.
Wow! As we all say repeatedly, these are just so well done and so much better than any of the junk on the History Channel here in the US. Really good and interesting stuff. Thank you!!!
I guess at 64 I am still learning new old history from Mark Felton
Me too, catching you up at a mere 61
Me too.
Like how your own country is supporting Nazis in Ukraine as we speak?
Danke!
Great topic. Keep on digging, keep on publishing.
Fascinating topic. All occupied Europe suffered during the war, but you don't hear a lot about Holland. I had the pleasure of visiting Holland in the '80's and they really are nice people.
The good doctor pronounces German quite well, but I noticed he avoided the Dutch SCH as in Scheveningen. Just pretend you’re a cat coughing up a fur ball.
I've always considered Dutch names useful, not just for purposes of identification but also for expectoration.
When I was married, one of my husband's friends swore he knew the pronunciation of Scheveningen, having worked on it due to them all being chess fans. Alas, he didn't understand that Dutch & German are different languages and also sttessed the wrong syllable. When I told him we were going to Scheveningen for the start of honeymoon, he looked like he'd swallowed a lemon.
In the Netherlands, during the German occupation, the resistance members tested any newcomer by asking them to pronounce the town name of 'Scheveningen'. Germans could not do so, thus were "hung by their own petard," as the English would say. I would have thought schavenhagen to be more difficult for a non English speaker to pronounce correctly, but then I wasn't there. My uncle was
@@yolandabrinkman2653 I was told a variant of this in elementary school in Germany during the 90s.
I caught that too. I’ve been to scheveningen and I recall it being pronounced as a “sh” sound but spoken from the throat, not the mouth
10 Dutch for 1 German. In Poland it was 100 Poles for 1 German
And now your own country supports Nazis in Ukraine
The stupid German race beliefs did believe that the Dutch were also part of the German master race, so of course they are worth more... :S
I suspect racial ideology might have something to do with that.
Source?
In Crete is was 25 Greeks for 1 German. Obviously racial - Dutch being "Aryans", Greeks being racially mixed but once the founders of Europe and Poles being just "subhumans".
The Dutch don't get enough international attention vis. WWII. But "Dr. Mark" saw it fitting to help change that.