I grew up around livestock in Arizona particularly goats, sheep and cattle and from experience. I can tell you it's best to have a planted pasture with different kinds of species of forage plants, grasses, and brush. It may be more expensive that way because you have to plant pasture then instead of using the natural grasses that the land comes with but the benefits outweigh the cost. Because I find that with planted pasture you can have a higher stocking rate because of the higher nutritional value of the forage plants, grasses, and brush. Also one of the best forage plants to plant is forage chicory because it is extremely high in mineral content and because of that it allows you to not need to provide as much mineral supplement to goats or other livestock.
Here in central MO, I paid $400/ea for full Kiko yearlings and for another $100, could get papers. One is AKGA and the other is pure New Zealand lines. I paid $200 for a 7/8 Boer, 1/8 Kiko buck yearling. The does each kidded for the first time this year and each had one kid which isn't unusual for a first kidding. We get much better pricing here at the sale barn. IF you can time breeding right and have the bucklings at the 50-60 lb range in late March to early April AND they're grade #1, you'll get around $4/lb so a 50lb buckling will bring $200. Normally, you'll get $2-3/lb. I'll probably just start putting some in the freezer and selling some to private buyers to start. When I have enough does making enough kids to make the trip worth it, I'll try the sale barn.
We farm Spanish goats, and they are bringing $175-$220 a head. We sell them at 50 lbs 4 to 6 months old and get $200 a head on average (Nanny). We set them out in the pasture, put out salt licks and mineral blocks in their barn, and they drink well water so our expense is very almost nothing. It is starting up like you said, that is expensive but if you have enough to start small and smart. The goats will bring enough to pay for the land and put a little money in your pocket.
Hi I'm just getting my land 10 acres in refugio. Thanks for the tip. I want to grow goats. For meat and milk. But I want to grow pigmy goats. Bee's and chicken's
Well done and just the kind of information this "newbie" was looking for. Retired teacher with now, 60 acres in SE Oklahoma and looking for something to do with what looks like pretty good pasture! Cattle are big animals and it seems sheep or goats (and of course, chickens) would be easier to handle. Personally, sheep are more to my liking for meat, but perhaps goats are better for milk? Either way, perhaps start with 6 or 8 animals and give it a trial run! Kiko seems to be the overall preferred breed for goats, is there a preferred breed for sheep? Thanks again for the very informative video, keep up the good work! God bless. O'Foot
I really like Katahdins as far as sheep go. It seems in my experience they are hardier than the Dorpers and grow off better than St. Croix. But all three are good.
Older Rams, I've heard, can become aggressive and head butt you and hurt you, particularly if your back is to them. That can be avoided with stout stick and wary eye, or one-way trip to sale barn. But after a SimAngus providing unscheduled free airfare in the feed barn, I'm liking my odds with the sheep.
Good video. The goat market is crazy high right now though. I have gotten over double what you stated for 50 lb bucklings recently (meat market). Not sure how long this will last though as these prices don’t seem sustainable.
Just my 2 cents mutton, lamb was never cheap in USA, it used around $12 per pound, recently its sitting at $14-$15 due to inflation and what not. So the rate is surely sustainable and one can make a lot more profit by selling the animal to Indian, Asian, some African communities and help with butchering.
The cost of 18 second class and 11 first Class tickets was £3017 . If 163 second class tickets costs as much as 68 first class tickets ; what is the price of each ticket class ? If you can answer in less than five minutes you are a super duper !
Personally I’m partial to LaManchas as a dairy breed. I’ve been raising LaMancha, Nigerian Dwarf & mini LaManchas (a cross of those 2 breeds) for 12 years so far & the LaManchas have my heart. They are a quiet, stoic & hearty breed that produce from 1-2 gallons of sweet delicious milk per day in their prime. I’ve never had a first freshener produce less than 3/4 galon (6lbs) and personally never had one produce more than 1 1/2 gallon (12lbs) a day as a 4 year old or older, but I know others who have had does produce more. A good dairy goat with good genetics will cost more than his examples in both initial purchase & maintenance as they need a higher plain of nutrition to produce milk, but it’s money well spent to know where your milk comes from & what’s in it. The benefits of raw milk cannot be overstated in my opinion.
I lost over 10000 in 9 months, it is not what it seems especially if you are incompetent. Don’t look at other peoples experience if you can’t afford your money don’t go with sheep
Actor? Or hectare? If hectare, that's 2.5 US acres each. Carrying capacity depends on grass types and monthly average precipitation. Don't overthink it. Start small. Manage daily. Subdivide your land. Rotate them through it, moving them every 30 days to new piece, not returning to same piece for at least 60 days ( parasite control), and keep some offspring until you reach carrying capacity. Experience will teach you. In US, some would say 3-4 per acre or 8-10 per hectare.
That may depend on the your local market and which would do better on your property (browse for goats, grass for sheep). Sheep are easier, grow off faster, and will usually have fewer loses. Goats typically sell for more per pound. In my experience they are about equal as far as profitability but sheep are much easier.
Just like the ostrich, emu, boar goat , dormer sheep crazy the first in get rich the rest just make enough to survive, if you can’t become a Shepard you are feeding the predators, and you will loss it all
The Boer goat market has been strong since the early 90’s. Prices have steadily increased for 3 decades and show no signs of decline. Goats and sheep have never been a passing craze. With any livestock there are risks and factors beyond one’s control, but farming goats and sheep is the worlds second oldest occupation. Hardly a passing fad.
Great info that most people won't share. This and the goats per acre video will help a lot of people out.
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I grew up around livestock in Arizona particularly goats, sheep and cattle and from experience. I can tell you it's best to have a planted pasture with different kinds of species of forage plants, grasses, and brush. It may be more expensive that way because you have to plant pasture then instead of using the natural grasses that the land comes with but the benefits outweigh the cost. Because I find that with planted pasture you can have a higher stocking rate because of the higher nutritional value of the forage plants, grasses, and brush. Also one of the best forage plants to plant is forage chicory because it is extremely high in mineral content and because of that it allows you to not need to provide as much mineral supplement to goats or other livestock.
Which part of Arizona?
@@hiredg00nz18 on the border of Maricopa county and Pinal county
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is there any grazing pasture in Arizona ? it must be hard to find thick green grass over there ?
Just found your channel. I have watched several videos today. I like them all.
Here in central MO, I paid $400/ea for full Kiko yearlings and for another $100, could get papers. One is AKGA and the other is pure New Zealand lines. I paid $200 for a 7/8 Boer, 1/8 Kiko buck yearling. The does each kidded for the first time this year and each had one kid which isn't unusual for a first kidding.
We get much better pricing here at the sale barn. IF you can time breeding right and have the bucklings at the 50-60 lb range in late March to early April AND they're grade #1, you'll get around $4/lb so a 50lb buckling will bring $200. Normally, you'll get $2-3/lb. I'll probably just start putting some in the freezer and selling some to private buyers to start. When I have enough does making enough kids to make the trip worth it, I'll try the sale barn.
you were spot on, good info for someone needing it.
We farm Spanish goats, and they are bringing $175-$220 a head. We sell them at 50 lbs 4 to 6 months old and get $200 a head on average (Nanny). We set them out in the pasture, put out salt licks and mineral blocks in their barn, and they drink well water so our expense is very almost nothing. It is starting up like you said, that is expensive but if you have enough to start small and smart. The goats will bring enough to pay for the land and put a little money in your pocket.
Hi I'm just getting my land 10 acres in refugio. Thanks for the tip. I want to grow goats. For meat and milk. But I want to grow pigmy goats. Bee's and chicken's
Great information - exactly what I was looking for. We are currently in the research and learning stage.
Super helpful video! Especially since we are about to dive in to raising goats!. Thank you so much for sharing it.
What a nice way of comentary?
Well done and just the kind of information this "newbie" was looking for. Retired teacher with now, 60 acres in SE Oklahoma and looking for something to do with what looks like pretty good pasture! Cattle are big animals and it seems sheep or goats (and of course, chickens) would be easier to handle. Personally, sheep are more to my liking for meat, but perhaps goats are better for milk? Either way, perhaps start with 6 or 8 animals and give it a trial run! Kiko seems to be the overall preferred breed for goats, is there a preferred breed for sheep? Thanks again for the very informative video, keep up the good work! God bless. O'Foot
I really like Katahdins as far as sheep go. It seems in my experience they are hardier than the Dorpers and grow off better than St. Croix. But all three are good.
Older Rams, I've heard, can become aggressive and head butt you and hurt you, particularly if your back is to them. That can be avoided with stout stick and wary eye, or one-way trip to sale barn. But after a SimAngus providing unscheduled free airfare in the feed barn, I'm liking my odds with the sheep.
Good video. The goat market is crazy high right now though. I have gotten over double what you stated for 50 lb bucklings recently (meat market). Not sure how long this will last though as these prices don’t seem sustainable.
Goat and sheep prices have been steadily rising for 25 years. Each year the number gets shorter and the demand greater.
Just my 2 cents mutton, lamb was never cheap in USA, it used around $12 per pound, recently its sitting at $14-$15 due to inflation and what not. So the rate is surely sustainable and one can make a lot more profit by selling the animal to Indian, Asian, some African communities and help with butchering.
You can also add in a kill fee if it's on your own property.
Pretty informative video sir, lot's of love from east Africa.
The cost of 18 second class and 11 first Class tickets was £3017 .
If 163 second class tickets costs as much as 68 first class tickets ; what is the price of each ticket class ?
If you can answer in less than five minutes you are a super duper !
God bless You My friend, Nice farm good information ❤️🙏
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Great video.
very good video thank you. BUT what if you plant wheat or barley in your land : how many sheep you can sustain per acre?
I don't know that I can answer that for your land. I planted winter wheat for a few years, but it did not benefit me as much as I had hoped.
Good videos
love your dorpers!
How you keep your rams/bucks, penned and fed rather than grass fed?
Which sheep doesn’t need shear and which is good for milk for 4 people and in texas
Any “hair sheep” breeds do not need to be sheared (Katahadins, Dorpers, Barbados, etc). I don’t know what breeds may be best for milking.
Personally I’m partial to LaManchas as a dairy breed. I’ve been raising LaMancha, Nigerian Dwarf & mini LaManchas (a cross of those 2 breeds) for 12 years so far & the LaManchas have my heart. They are a quiet, stoic & hearty breed that produce from 1-2 gallons of sweet delicious milk per day in their prime. I’ve never had a first freshener produce less than 3/4 galon (6lbs) and personally never had one produce more than 1 1/2 gallon (12lbs) a day as a 4 year old or older, but I know others who have had does produce more.
A good dairy goat with good genetics will cost more than his examples in both initial purchase & maintenance as they need a higher plain of nutrition to produce milk, but it’s money well spent to know where your milk comes from & what’s in it. The benefits of raw milk cannot be overstated in my opinion.
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Good advice!
thank you !
When you say that lambs/kids go for about 75-100 are you selling them live or custom exempt?
Live.
I lost over 10000 in 9 months, it is not what it seems especially if you are incompetent. Don’t look at other peoples experience if you can’t afford your money don’t go with sheep
Great information, you are a great and honest person. It was fun to watch your video. I will watch more and subscribe your channel.
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Where do you live? How much are you asking for female sheep?
here do I get feed for goats for cheap
These prices are off. You should be able to get $400 per head
Our market is not getting $400 a head at the moment, but prices have risen since I made that video. Thanks
Hi i m from pakistan i live in hilly area and i have 5 actor of grassy area how much sheeps i can have
Actor? Or hectare? If hectare, that's 2.5 US acres each. Carrying capacity depends on grass types and monthly average precipitation. Don't overthink it. Start small. Manage daily. Subdivide your land. Rotate them through it, moving them every 30 days to new piece, not returning to same piece for at least 60 days ( parasite control), and keep some offspring until you reach carrying capacity. Experience will teach you. In US, some would say 3-4 per acre or 8-10 per hectare.
What’s the website name?
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Which is more profitable sheep OR goats?
That may depend on the your local market and which would do better on your property (browse for goats, grass for sheep). Sheep are easier, grow off faster, and will usually have fewer loses. Goats typically sell for more per pound. In my experience they are about equal as far as profitability but sheep are much easier.
Anything green is goat feed.
10% loss seems very high
I've tried to give very conservative numbers that nubies can realistically expect. Some years I have 10-12% losses, some years less than 1%.
Just like the ostrich, emu, boar goat , dormer sheep crazy the first in get rich the rest just make enough to survive, if you can’t become a Shepard you are feeding the predators, and you will loss it all
The Boer goat market has been strong since the early 90’s. Prices have steadily increased for 3 decades and show no signs of decline. Goats and sheep have never been a passing craze. With any livestock there are risks and factors beyond one’s control, but farming goats and sheep is the worlds second oldest occupation. Hardly a passing fad.
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