Great video - thank you. I'm realizing temporary electric fencing is not sustainable (it's a pain to move every few days and risks killing the goats in tangles as you mentioned so that defeats the point). I need better fencing for rotational grazing. I think I'm going to go with the horse/goat/sheep exterior fencing and electric dividers. We have rocks and mountain land so fencing with land that is not level is no easy task. Also - if you live in Montana the fish & wildlife teams help get funding for electric to hold out the grizzlies/mountain lions/wolves. They cover some of the cost as well so it's worth reaching out if you need it.
What type of charger do you use? I have a 5 acre pasture that I’m trying to determine what would be sufficient, eventually I will be expanding the pasture maybe another 5acres at a time as I’m only expecting 10 to 15 sheep this year.
How does one keep the stubborn goats from climbing and pushing through these I had a lamacha/alpine that gives zero shits about zappys idk how to rotationally move goats with portable fencing
@@rollingofarm lol still new to this I just got two doelings from a really great breeder both with papers learned a lot in just one day hoof trimming meds down and tattooing. The outside parameter of my property is all field fence. It’s good to bough for cows but idk about goats. I was trying to use my goats in combination with my few pasture pigs to take out brambles from above and below. Hence the portable fencing and my attempt at rotationally grazing.
Thanks for reply. I've had goats before but going to get into sheep looking at St Crioux. Planning on perimeter wire fencing and electric to separate paddocks. What type of sheep do you have ?
I have a friend in the law care business. Try using white vinegar and dawn dishwashing soap along with water being sprayed on. It works very well as a maintenance up keep method!
we use cattle panels and t posts. sheep and goat panels were too expensive for the size we wanted so we went with cattle. have had the goats over a year and have only had one goat who got her head stuck in the fence. i just tied a stick to her horns to keep her in. looked a bit silly but it worked. the only other issue is keeping the kids inside. they can walk right out of the fence. but our food is put up tight and they have never gone too far from momma. predators haven't been an issue either, though it is something we've watched for.
I think I came upon this channel first because of the sliding gates popping up, but I’m finding as I binge your channel that each video is useful. Cheers.
We have a lot of coyotes. I’ve been very fortunate not to have many problems, but I’ve had some friends who have. I do have a lot of electric fencing, and I think that helps.
They might dig under. You can always put one strand of electrified smooth wire about 1' off the ground around the bottom with a 6" offset insulator if you do have problems.
I occasionally have cattle in my pastures and the barbed wire on the top of the fence is just to them from sticking their heads over the fence and pushing down on the wire.
Regarding the high tensile wire, you mentioned on the second row from the bottom it was not hot but grounded. How does that work exactly? You just run a wire from the ground rod to the second row? Really enjoy you videos, very informative...Thanks
Yes, a ground wire or even a wire to a metal T-post. Just anything to ground out second wire so that anything trying to go through wires will make contact with a hot and ground creating circuit.
Hello. The video is very informative. We are wanting to get into raising goats. However, we live in an area of the upper MidWest where we can get a lot of snow. Does snow affect these electrical fences? I'm thinking I would have to shovel the whole fence line just like mowing? We want to keep the cost down but want something permanent and stable as well. Thanks Much!!
We only run the electric during the year when we don't have snow. During winter they are in the winter enclosure. It is a non electric fenced area. Area only has to be big enough to not be overcrowded. Bale fed till the grass comes up in the spring.
I assume that each wire can be hooked or unhooked from the fencer and ground. What I means is you can configure your five wires any way you want. When the snow gets too deep just disconnect the bottom wire. Make wire two the hot wire. Just a thought, I have no experience with this type of fence.
Have you had any problems with insulators displacing or breaking and grounding out the electric fence due to animals on the other side pushing on the fence (cattle, horses, coyotes, etc)?
Excellent video. Wish I found this before getting into goats. I’ve experimented with all of these fence types and had the same experience as you. The only thing I would add is you can get field fence as you call it with vertical wires 30cm (12”) apart so even the largest goats can get their horns in and out. We use the more expensive sheep and goat mesh (what we call horse mesh here in Australia) on my yards which are cattle panels. Great video 👍
That’s not a dumb question at all. Some people do use barbed wire for electric fencing. Disadvantages: difficult to work with, draws more energy from charger, can easily tangle with grounded wires if you have grounded lines on your fence.
I’ve been very blessed and not having any problems with predators. However, this past year, my electric fence was down and I did have some coyotes get a few lambs.
How about using frost type fence? 5 or 5 foot tall? I might have a cheap used old frost fence. Not getting tons of goats but some of that goat specific fence 2x4 cost like 400$ CDN.... I still have to build their shelter etc.
Thanks very much for this demo, very helpful 👍
I asked a question on your other video about fencing but then I found this one. This basically answers all the questions I had. Thanks again
I’m currently installing 4x4 sheep and goat fence, I’m surprised you didn’t showcase that.
I have had my lambs get their necks stuck in the 4" x 4", will replace with woven field fence once I can afford it,
I'm just wondering if the pig wire won't start sagging if the goats stand on it. Or is that not a problem?
Great video - thank you. I'm realizing temporary electric fencing is not sustainable (it's a pain to move every few days and risks killing the goats in tangles as you mentioned so that defeats the point). I need better fencing for rotational grazing. I think I'm going to go with the horse/goat/sheep exterior fencing and electric dividers. We have rocks and mountain land so fencing with land that is not level is no easy task. Also - if you live in Montana the fish & wildlife teams help get funding for electric to hold out the grizzlies/mountain lions/wolves. They cover some of the cost as well so it's worth reaching out if you need it.
I’m gonna use that plus chicken wire fence too with 7 foot t posts.
could one run the bottom wire as ground so then it doesn't matter so much if grass it touching it?
Things crawl under that.
The bottom wire is the most important wire. It needs to be hot.
So I have a question about your catch pin . What is the width of the catch shoot and length.
20" wide (which is a little too wide for most goats and sheep) and the length can be any length. Mine is 10' long.
What type of charger do you use? I have a 5 acre pasture that I’m trying to determine what would be sufficient, eventually I will be expanding the pasture maybe another 5acres at a time as I’m only expecting 10 to 15 sheep this year.
I like Gallagar chargers. Always buy a little bigger than you think you have to have.
give us a list of the items you used in the video for the fencing.
Thanks for the suggestion.
How does one keep the stubborn goats from climbing and pushing through these I had a lamacha/alpine that gives zero shits about zappys idk how to rotationally move goats with portable fencing
Sounds like that goat may be telling you it doesn’t want to live on your farm 😊.
@@rollingofarm lol still new to this I just got two doelings from a really great breeder both with papers learned a lot in just one day hoof trimming meds down and tattooing. The outside parameter of my property is all field fence. It’s good to bough for cows but idk about goats. I was trying to use my goats in combination with my few pasture pigs to take out brambles from above and below. Hence the portable fencing and my attempt at rotationally grazing.
I am finishing up hog fencing but have problems with predators and want to run an electric wire. Any thoughts.
I've had good success with electric wire deterring predators.
What do you use to spray the fence line?
I have mostly just used "roundup". This past summer I did try a "season long" herbicide, but it was not much more affective than regular "roundup"
Thanks for reply. I've had goats before but going to get into sheep looking at St Crioux. Planning on perimeter wire fencing and electric to separate paddocks. What type of sheep do you have ?
@@livingonthemeadows7273 I carry mostly Katahdins and a few Dorpers.
Thanks will have to stay in touch. Katahdins is my second go to.
I have a friend in the law care business. Try using white vinegar and dawn dishwashing soap along with water being sprayed on. It works very well as a maintenance up keep method!
They'll use the net wire as a rub and your nice fence will soon be saggy.
we use cattle panels and t posts. sheep and goat panels were too expensive for the size we wanted so we went with cattle. have had the goats over a year and have only had one goat who got her head stuck in the fence. i just tied a stick to her horns to keep her in. looked a bit silly but it worked. the only other issue is keeping the kids inside. they can walk right out of the fence. but our food is put up tight and they have never gone too far from momma. predators haven't been an issue either, though it is something we've watched for.
I use the mobile electric fence around chicken coop and it keeps them safe.
I think I came upon this channel first because of the sliding gates popping up, but I’m finding as I binge your channel that each video is useful. Cheers.
Glad you are finding it helpful. Thanks
Do you have much coyote pressure in your area?
We have a lot of coyotes. I’ve been very fortunate not to have many problems, but I’ve had some friends who have.
I do have a lot of electric fencing, and I think that helps.
I’ve got 6 foot 2x4 inch welded wire fencing...but I’m concerned about coyotes climbing or digging...thoughts?
They might dig under. You can always put one strand of electrified smooth wire about 1' off the ground around the bottom with a 6" offset insulator if you do have problems.
Is the barbed wire on top of the fence efficient to keep predators out?
I occasionally have cattle in my pastures and the barbed wire on the top of the fence is just to them from sticking their heads over the fence and pushing down on the wire.
Good informational video, thanks for sharing.
Regarding the high tensile wire, you mentioned on the second row from the bottom it was not hot but grounded. How does that work exactly? You just run a wire from the ground rod to the second row? Really enjoy you videos, very informative...Thanks
Yes, a ground wire or even a wire to a metal T-post. Just anything to ground out second wire so that anything trying to go through wires will make contact with a hot and ground creating circuit.
what breed/s of sheep and goat/s do you raise?
Thanks!
Hello. The video is very informative. We are wanting to get into raising goats. However, we live in an area of the upper MidWest where we can get a lot of snow. Does snow affect these electrical fences? I'm thinking I would have to shovel the whole fence line just like mowing? We want to keep the cost down but want something permanent and stable as well. Thanks Much!!
I don't have experience with more than 4" of snow in our area, so I can't offer much help on this one.
We only run the electric during the year when we don't have snow. During winter they are in the winter enclosure. It is a non electric fenced area. Area only has to be big enough to not be overcrowded. Bale fed till the grass comes up in the spring.
I assume that each wire can be hooked or unhooked from the fencer and ground. What I means is you can configure your five wires any way you want. When the snow gets too deep just disconnect the bottom wire. Make wire two the hot wire. Just a thought, I have no experience with this type of fence.
What brand of insulators did you use on your metal t-posts? Have they worked well for you?
I've used several different bands. Kencove sells their own brand and I think I like it best.
Have you had any problems with insulators displacing or breaking and grounding out the electric fence due to animals on the other side pushing on the fence (cattle, horses, coyotes, etc)?
Excellent video. Wish I found this before getting into goats. I’ve experimented with all of these fence types and had the same experience as you. The only thing I would add is you can get field fence as you call it with vertical wires 30cm (12”) apart so even the largest goats can get their horns in and out. We use the more expensive sheep and goat mesh (what we call horse mesh here in Australia) on my yards which are cattle panels. Great video 👍
Thank you for mentioning the 12” field fence. I have not tired it.
Here's a dumb question from a guy whose never raised livestock or farmed. Why not use barbed wire for electric fencing? Isn't it metal and conductive?
That’s not a dumb question at all. Some people do use barbed wire for electric fencing. Disadvantages: difficult to work with, draws more energy from charger, can easily tangle with grounded wires if you have grounded lines on your fence.
Noticed you did not have guardian dogs for sheep. You have any issues with Coyotes wanting to dig under fencing or stray/feral dogs causing problems?
I’ve been very blessed and not having any problems with predators. However, this past year, my electric fence was down and I did have some coyotes get a few lambs.
Greg Judy uses a charger that is so strong it burns the weeds off as soon as they get close , good information though
Is that a fire hazard?
non of his grass is brown , so no , crazy how much rain they get in that part of the country @@markm8188
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Thanks I learn something new
How about using frost type fence? 5 or 5 foot tall? I might have a cheap used old frost fence. Not getting tons of goats but some of that goat specific fence 2x4 cost like 400$ CDN.... I still have to build their shelter etc.
I’m not familiar with frost fence. Sorry
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