@@sanstheskeleton7897 It's a 'blink and you'll miss it moment' - I watched Tarzan a lot as a kid as I never saw it because my attention was on Tarzan dropping down rather than the shadow on the tree
I think it's not the same cus he was poisoned and we already knew he was dead. I think the final death with Cheech and the almost final death with Hector were more impactful because of the emotions behind them. With living Hector's death we already knew he was "okay" after.
Sure, but that's also a movie she hector was running around for most of the movie already being dead. Doesn't quite have the same finality as it used to. Most we got with a dead mufasa was cloud shouting, not whole musical numbers with his alive relative.
And although it doesn’t actually happen almost drowning an infant is pretty brutal And the only thing stopping him being “the eyes of god” gets scarier the older you get
The evil queen in Snow White, screaming as she falls to her death and then the vultures just following after her with that hungry look in there eyes, was a moment for me as a child. Bring back the serious meaning of death!!
Disney also doesn’t kill villains like they used to. Seeing Mother Gothel shrivel up and turn to dust before she even hit the ground made me and my mommy issues feel good.
Yep! Clayton got straight up lynched, Scar got torn apart by a pack of hyenas, Frollo got escorted to the bowels of hell by a demonic gargoyle. They just don’t off bad guys like they used to.
@@Thunderbender18830 Clayton basically hanged himself, Tarzan was trying to warn him to stop cutting the vines, the Evil Queen from Snow White, she got crushed under a giant rock, Dr. Faciller was dragged into the netherworld by evil Voodoo spirits, the blonde chick from Atlantis was shoved off a platform hundreds of feet above the ground, I could go on...
Y'all are saying that as if you wouldn't be horrified if someone turned to dust in front of you. Other than that, I agree. They aren't even really killing villains off anymore.
@@hithere911 No I think they were including Mother Gothel’s death in the list of gruesome deaths. I don’t think we’ve gotten a real good villain death since hers.
Walt Disney actually had a wonderful relationship with his mom. She raised him as a poor single mother and had to work her heiny off just to keep a roof over their heads in a shady tenenant building. He always had the utmost respect for her and appreciated the many sacrifices she made to keep clothes on his back and food on the table. He credited her more than once as being the most influential person in his life as well as his biggest supporter. So of course, as soon as he started becoming somewhat successful, he bought her a beautiful house, in a beautiful neighborhood. But it had a faulty heating furnace and within a week of moving in, she died died or carbon monoxide poisoning. In case you were wondering why Disney movies are so traumatic.😢
I thought I was safe with Encanto during the first flashback, but mother of god when that second one came up and it turned out she was just suppressing her own trauma from that night-- oof.
Honestly, she's right. The moment Bambi's mom died was one of the most scarring moments in animation ever. But it's something that happens and we learned pretty early that people are bad and do bad sh*t. I know it's not a villain death, but it's still pretty grafic one.
I would like to offer up Kenai killing Koda's mom in Brother Bear. Like, the "Oh f*ck" moment when Kenai realised what he did AND THEN TELLING KODA WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
@@chimericalbeast Sorry to dump an essay on you but you are correct and I can break it down: Basically, Eisner the Disney CEO at the time was beefing with DreamWorks. The executive tier of Disney sabotaged those early Y2K animated films with lack of promotion, so they could blame the failure on 2D animation and justify a move to 100% CGI. The only character that got a tons of merchandise and preview space was Stitch. That was a tactic used so Disney could have at least 1 brand new character featured in the theme park parades and such. Atlantis clawed its way into a tidy success and was set for a full TV sequel series but that was suspiciously cancelled after a few episodes were made. (The episodes were packaged into Milo's Return and released direct-to-video.) Treasure Planet only received something like 2 teaser trailers and a line of Burger King toys. It was also released the same week as the 2nd Harry Potter film- that was no mistake. Home on the Range didn't have to be anyone's favorite but it featured a lot of great actors and country stars. It was also hilarious and had an attractive animation style. Disney did a poor job of marketing that film to the Midwestern states and agricultural areas where it would've been more appreciated. The early Y2K years were easily the most convoluted era in Disney's history.
@@qryptid Sitka's death scene was the first time I cried when watching a movie. Brother Bear kind of fell off the radar after it's initial release but I found the film again as a teenager and it floored me.
I was literally just thinking about Tarzan's parents right before you talked about them! It's crazy when you rewatch that movie as an adult and realize you can actually see their (very recently deceased) bodies partially hidden amongst all the blood and claw marks in the tree house. It's also crazy to think about how many deaths we witness in that one Disney movie.
Gaston was originally supposed to survive the fall, but then get eaten alive by the same wolves that chased Belle to the Beast's castle earlier in the movie. 🙃 They reserved that fate for Scar instead.
Also Nicque you know which other parent death went hard as hell? Quasimodo's mom from "Hunchback of Notre Dame". Like she is running away from Frollo holding her baby, he is on a horse, and her last moments were begging for shelter at the church, and when Frollo catches her she just kicks her and she just BREAKS HER SKULL ON THE STAIRS. And then Frollo upon seeing the baby he WANTED TO DROWN IT. Like Hunchback of Notre Dame had no right to go that hard...and that's why I love it so much.
@@LadyNightfire And then when the Arch Deacon confronted Frollo he told him that he can lie to himself but he couldn't escape the eyes of the Notre Dame, and then EVERY SINGLE STATUES side-eyes the HELL out of Frollo to the point in which he feels legit guilt. And while Frollo decides to turn the baby into his deformed slave, the Arch Deacon is still casually carrying the body of the mother! Again this movie went hard and I thank the Disney Gods for giving it to us.
I mean, that was the censored version of that story. Have you seen the musical? Or read/heard about the book? I’m surprised they decided to do that one at all. The whole story is disturbing and dark. Like, Esmeralda was supposed to die. Quasimodo curls up next her body and doesn’t move until he starves himself to death. Disney definitely made some effort to tone it down. I am surprised they put Hellfire in there, though. That was… a very dark song for a Disney movie.
Gen X’ers still traumatized by “Old Yeller,” raise your hands. You will never know the horror of all the crying in classrooms as they played it for us IN CLASS!!!! As a reward….for being good all year !!!!
I don’t remember that movie too well but did y’all ever have to read/see “Where the red fern grows”? The casualties of that story is one small child with an axe in his chest and two extremely good boy hunting dogs that were basically sent by angels. NONE of the deaths were PG. I was never the same. Grew real quiet after having to experience that one *twice* (we read the book and then watched the movie) Edit: SO I FORGOT TO MENTION A FEW THINGS AND A NEW MEMORY WAS UNLOCKED READING MY COMMENT BACK. I’m actually older Gen Z, born 1999. The school I went to was a Catholic school so yes the teachers were all absolutely off their rockers-they chose this book for our 3rd grade class, *literally,* because it mentioned angels, and they approached it like they were reading a picture book with the way they’d sometimes plop us down on the carpet and read it aloud to us. ANYWAYS-sitting on the carpet with my teacher voice acting the book was how I heard the chapter where the child gets an axe in his chest and bleeds to death in the woods in front of the main character who is also a child. And I apparently started flashing back to the story of how my brother’s 12 year old friend died in a similar way a couple years before and the sermons and obituaries I heard at his funeral and began tearing up. So the teacher after reading the chapter asked me why I seemed so sad 🤡 and I told her what was going through my mind. She said “oh baby I’m sorry I didn’t mean to bring _that_ up”-AND WE CONTINUED READING THE BOOK THE NEXT DAY ANYWAYS. TRULY FUCKING UNHINGED NO WONDER I SUPPRESSED THE MEMORY
@@riverstein7251 We had to read Where the Red Fern Grows and Old Yeller in the same year AND WRITE A COMPARISON PAPER. Then our “reward” was… watching both movies. 😩😩😩 It was FOURTH GRADE. WE WERE NINE. …this is how you make goths, people.
Yo, syndrome was cut into pieces in Incredibles, on top of blowing up. And the villain of Mulan? He first "died" by being buried alive, then turned super fabulous by becoming a literal FIREWORK. All of China knew he blew the hell up.
Hunchback with its fanatical evil villain was my favourite and still is. Love it, so realistic but with great music and Phoebus was my love next to John Smith 😂
Don Bluth directed, it was made by Universal and Amblin. For more of that finely crafted sad I recommend 'An American Tail'. I didn't watch 'All Dogs Go to Heaven' until I was an adult, he made that one too.
@@lambentlamprey Don't forget The Secret of NIMH! That movie is my childhood. In too many ways. *shudder* Also, though it's not Bluth, Watership Down.
What's wild about Tarzan is that was actually the mild version. Apparently, they storyboarded the scene where the leopard goes after the dad. He manages to get off a shot but misses, DROPS the freaking gun and the is dragged offscreen by leopard claws as mournful music box music plays.
My favourite on-screen death is Mother Gothel's, both villain and parent: seeing her age, fall and becoming dust was almost cathartic, as she saw her worst nightmare becoming reality and nullifying all her efforts and the results of the pain she inflicted on everyone else.
Funny enough, legend has it that when Walt Disney's Old Animators saw "The Lion King" in 1994, they felt showing Mufasa's dead body was too much as they felt that the idea of Mufasa being murdered was enough to get the point across like they did with "Bambi"; they just shot her off screen and Bambi had to accept that she was dead. Funny how perceptions change like that. Now there isn't enough dead parents on-screen and the villains ain't obvious anymore they have to be subtle, secret villains.
I think it's because emotional manipulation and the duality of narcissistic/sociopathic individuals are more discussed. When the Disney Studio was first created in the 1900s, the US was barely out of brutality like normalized child labor and old west gunfights. Even then, most of their villain deaths were poetic or karmic. Disney heroes rarely kill the villains in their respective films. Usually their villains kind of fall on their own spears.
How about Treasure Planet? Mr. Arrow falling into a black hole, terrifying. Also you want to bring up trauma every flashback during “I’m Still Here” is an emotional gut punch. No dead parents but Jim’s relationship with his dad definitely ended six feet deep.
“Dad, Dad, come on, you gotta get up. Dad, we gotta go home…Help!…Somebody…anybody…help…” - Simba 7 year old me and my cousin bawling our eyes out 😢😢😢 That scene changed us. The memory still makes me catch my breath.
Fun fact: the original scene was apparently much worse, but during a crowd test all the kids in the audience were apparently bawling, as well as their parents. So Disney toned it down. That was the TONED DOWN VERSION!!!!
First movie I watched in theaters was Lion King. I was 4. Was so excited with my pigtails and box of movie sized Starburst. I cried so damn loud when Mufasa died that they needed to take me home right after that scene🤣🤣🤣.
I remember being so shocked. Just gutted as Mufasa fell. Pretty sure my face mirrored Simba's. Thankfully my mom waited till it came out on tape so i watched it in my own living room so it felt safer.
NAW BC LIKE FOR BAMBI WE HEARD THE GUNSHOT AND EVERYONE *INCLUDING* THE KIDS WERE LIKE “omg she died!” I legit started SOBBING when his mom died I swear-
Walt Disney felt like he accidentally killed his mom and felt really guilty, so he didn't write parents for any of his characters and once he died it kept going as a staple. He bought a house for his parents that had a carbon monoxide leak, his mother died and his father was very sick
Not only that, but they legit showed Clayton's dead body hanging in the vines after he accidentally killed himself trying to get to Tarzan! That movie had more deaths of fleshed out characters than any other Disney movie
And while we're at it, can we get some fun villains again? Don't get me wrong, I like the greater variety we've gotten and the acknowledgement of some moral complexity where antagonists can be sympathetic. But can we still get some entertaining Jack Horner style villains once in awhile? With the kickass villain songs? Please?
She's right though when you think about it. Learning about death and that it's not always kind/peaceful can teach you to appreciate what you have now, cause everything can end when you least expect it
@@honeybri7061 I'm sorry about your pupper. It hurts so much to lose a furry family member. I know I still get teary-eyed when I remember my old cat Dido, who had to be put to sleep because of complications from her diabetes. She let me know when she'd had enough and it was time.
The evil queen from Snow White LITERALLY wanted the hunter to carve out Snow white's heart as proof of her death Also the seen where she leaves the castle as an old hag and kicks a dead skeletons cup away from it..just brutal.
Don't forget that she fell backwards off a cliff after a lightning bolt hit near her, watched as the hugh rock, that she tried to use to kill the dwarves, rolls on top of her, and the vultures fly down to have her for DINNER! Even as a small child, we knew that she was dead.
As a kid I always thought Clayton fell, got covered in vines, and he was just brutally stabbed in the chest. I didn't even bother looking at the background until years later.
@@hihi615 but she reunites with them eventually. 💜 But yeah, a tower, right there, with no accessible door so no one would try to explore it and they'd think it was abandoned. And it makes sense she instilled terror and codependency in Rapunzel so she'd never try escape and never cry for help or consider her mother anything but her protector. Classic abuse.
"Ripe ole age of 3"..........That was the exact age I was when my dad showed me the G1 Transformers movie and then the next year, at the age of 4, my mom took me to see Tarzan which had CLAYTON'S FUCKING CORPSE HANGING VIA SHADOW AND A FUCKING BABY GORILLA KILLED BY A LEOPARD ALONG WITH TARZAN'S PARENTS BEING MAULED BY THE SAME DAMN LEOPARD! Man, I grew up with some fucked up shit......BRING THAT SHIT BACK DISNEY!
Ever played megaman? In X4, theres a scene where 1 of the characters (who is a spy working for the bad guys) reveals who he really is and starts slicing soldiers up. Blood EVERYWHERE. Sure the soliders were robots but they were basically human. I got to that cutscene when I was 5. The heavy rock music in the metal was kinda traumatizing😂
I never realized just how DARK Tarzan was!!! He lost both his parents when he was a baby and his parents bodies were literally laying RIGHT next to him the entire time! Not only that, but if you pause the movie at just the right frame, you can see the silhouette of Clayton's dead body!!
@@kimberlyjones8152old Disney was something different. I remember thinking Aurora and Snow White were just laid out like it was a funeral when I was little.
@@licialee283 In Snow White's case that's because it literally WAS her funeral. They thought she was dead until the prince woke her up Aurora...idk ergonomics? 😅
Dont forget the hunter in Tarzan, where we literally see the vines get tighter and tighter around his neck as he frees his limbs with the machete, until the only ones holding him up are the ones around his neck, and he drops- And the last we see of him is a flash of lightning casting the silhouette of his hanged corpse against the tree.
Don't forget the death of the hunter in Tarzan, we didn't see the body but they showed his shadow with the lightning flashing. Excellent artistry there.
The ocean scares me so much so the Frozen death was literally so scary to watch. I remember not wanting to go near water ever again after watching that.
I still remember seeing the Evil guy with the Shotgun in Tarzan get hanged by the vines when he tried to get out of it, man I still remember it very well it will never leave me. EVER.
Didn't even mention the hunchback of note dame seeing Frollo literally murder Quasi's mother on the steps of the note dame cathedral as she was holding her newborn baby.
I would like to refer to Twisted the Untold Story of the Royal Vizier for the list of many ways Disney killed their villains back when they did 2D animated movies.
Born in 2001, I third this. One's mortality and its consequences are fundamental concepts to understand, in order both to prepare oneself for the worst and be more mindful of the situations oone might put themselves in.
I assume you mean Disney's animated films don't kill parents like they used to. Don't know about y'all, but I still get choked up when I remember Queen Ramonda's death in Wakanda Forever. That shit had me sitting up like Simba going "Get up. Come on. You gotta get up.🥺"
Don't forget that in Tarzan for a split second when the lighting flashes you can see the villain (what ever his name is can't remember) dangling from the vines after he and Tarzan fall after their fight
Okay I was wrong in that we don’t *see* the death itself. But we see the guy’s cutlass pointing at him from Pedro’s POV, so… I think we can put 2+2 together on WHAT happened
“Don’t be shy, traumatize us!” Is one of the best sentences I have ever heard
Agreed 😂
My new quote don’t be shy TRAUMATIZE
That got me 😂
I agree
True!
Addition to Tarzan: You also see clayton hang in the vines DIRECTLY AFTER Tarzan threatened to shoot him
exactly
I was surprised she didn't add that herself, his hanging body was one of the main things I remembered from the movie when I watched it as a kid 😅
@@sanstheskeleton7897 I think it was because she was talking about parents dying in Disney 😂
I was JUST thinking about that
@@sanstheskeleton7897 It's a 'blink and you'll miss it moment' - I watched Tarzan a lot as a kid as I never saw it because my attention was on Tarzan dropping down rather than the shadow on the tree
They stopped traumatizing us with death and started traumatizing us with emotions
Omg ikr 😫
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And past trauma
At this point, they should do a 1-2-combo with those in one movie.
Semi-explicit parent death, emotional issues, and past traumatic events.
Nothing like some good old
E M O T I O N A L D A M A G E
Oh they’re still traumatizing us, they’re just leaning into the emotional aspect because they realized it cuts deeper
You know what cuts even deeper? Seeing the knife enter as you're emotionally opened up 😜😬😭
Mulan and Atlantis had people BLOWN UP!
Bruh that screeching noise of a man being turned into some crystalline creature... dear god
That doll among the ruined village...
@Lindsey Herbst that scene was so abrupt. Joy to despair in .3 seconds 💀
Oh my God, I forgot about that. That was pretty cool though with Mushu. Atlantis' noises of screeching was pretty terrifying tho
Lilo and stitch it was a pretty big part of the movie
In Tarzan, even Clayton’s death was pretty traumatic. It doesn’t show the hanging directly, but the shadow of it happening is pretty damn dark.
Bruh SERIOUSLY
Clayton's death wasn't traumatic, I know everyone was rejoicing after that shit happened
@@lilg8725 to you … not everyone has the same life experiences, so it could have been traumatic to them.
I know I'm speaking for myself and the people who did rejoice
@@lilg8725 oh, okay then. Sorry that I was rude and thank you for keeping a level head and correcting me.
Bro Tarzan was just very up front with the deaths. WE LITERALLY SEE THE SHADOW OF THE VILLAN'S BODY HANGING THERE. THAT WAS FREAKING SICK
"Like a Krip in the streetz" took me OUT😅🤣🤣🤣
Same😂
Hector got murdered right before our eyes in Coco. Granted, that’s Pixar, but it’s still under the Disney umbrella.
I think it's not the same cus he was poisoned and we already knew he was dead. I think the final death with Cheech and the almost final death with Hector were more impactful because of the emotions behind them. With living Hector's death we already knew he was "okay" after.
Sure, but that's also a movie she hector was running around for most of the movie already being dead. Doesn't quite have the same finality as it used to. Most we got with a dead mufasa was cloud shouting, not whole musical numbers with his alive relative.
@@lulolie that is a great point!
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@EnderPerks not universal
Remember when Quasimodo's mom got her skull slammed into the stone steps of Notre Dame? That was intense.
And although it doesn’t actually happen almost drowning an infant is pretty brutal
And the only thing stopping him being “the eyes of god” gets scarier the older you get
I always wondered what happened to his dad/uncle/grandpa whoever the dude travelling with her?
Remember that whole movie? That was intense.
@@viddergrapho8488 probably got unalived as well
I JUST typed this very thing! Shit was MAD
The evil queen in Snow White, screaming as she falls to her death and then the vultures just following after her with that hungry look in there eyes, was a moment for me as a child. Bring back the serious meaning of death!!
“Don’t be shy; traumatize us; the way you used to!” Is by far the best combination of words I think I have ever heard; I'M AUDIBLY WHEEZING!! 🤣😵
Don't be shy Disney. Show us the dead bodies.
When you put it that way...
Disney also doesn’t kill villains like they used to. Seeing Mother Gothel shrivel up and turn to dust before she even hit the ground made me and my mommy issues feel good.
Yep! Clayton got straight up lynched, Scar got torn apart by a pack of hyenas, Frollo got escorted to the bowels of hell by a demonic gargoyle. They just don’t off bad guys like they used to.
@@Thunderbender18830 Clayton basically hanged himself, Tarzan was trying to warn him to stop cutting the vines, the Evil Queen from Snow White, she got crushed under a giant rock, Dr. Faciller was dragged into the netherworld by evil Voodoo spirits, the blonde chick from Atlantis was shoved off a platform hundreds of feet above the ground, I could go on...
Y'all are saying that as if you wouldn't be horrified if someone turned to dust in front of you. Other than that, I agree. They aren't even really killing villains off anymore.
@@hithere911 No I think they were including Mother Gothel’s death in the list of gruesome deaths. I don’t think we’ve gotten a real good villain death since hers.
@@Thunderbender18830 Oh, if that's the case sorry that I misintepreted./gen
Walt Disney actually had a wonderful relationship with his mom. She raised him as a poor single mother and had to work her heiny off just to keep a roof over their heads in a shady tenenant building. He always had the utmost respect for her and appreciated the many sacrifices she made to keep clothes on his back and food on the table. He credited her more than once as being the most influential person in his life as well as his biggest supporter. So of course, as soon as he started becoming somewhat successful, he bought her a beautiful house, in a beautiful neighborhood. But it had a faulty heating furnace and within a week of moving in, she died died or carbon monoxide poisoning. In case you were wondering why Disney movies are so traumatic.😢
I am going to check this because I just cant believe it 😮😢
Companies are so scared of parents nowadays, it's a shame. How can we have all the fun childhood memories without the trauma?
I thought I was safe with Encanto during the first flashback, but mother of god when that second one came up and it turned out she was just suppressing her own trauma from that night-- oof.
Life recap + music ~> somebody going to die...
Encanto & Up
I cannot watch that scene without crying.
I think it wasn't her repressing stuff, o think it was shown from Mirabelle's eyes, and she was 5
@@m.firdausshaharum3860 OH YOU DID NOT JUST MENTION UP 😭😭😭
THAT SCENE SHATTERED ME
two words: Finding Nemo.
That barracuda scene made four year old me SOB
Does Finding Nemo count tho 😅 it’s Pixar
@@katherineclarke9282 Pixar is apart of Disney now so it basically counts.
even if it wasn’t Disney it STILL HURTS 😰
I legit never understood that scene when I was little and I watched it multiple times
I've had nightmares over that barracuda
For years my parents skipped that part and a few years ago I was babysitting and watched it. I thought it was a bonus feature or something 💀
Bambi was one of my favorite movies growing up. Despite the death of his mom
Honestly, she's right. The moment Bambi's mom died was one of the most scarring moments in animation ever. But it's something that happens and we learned pretty early that people are bad and do bad sh*t.
I know it's not a villain death, but it's still pretty grafic one.
I would like to offer up Kenai killing Koda's mom in Brother Bear. Like, the "Oh f*ck" moment when Kenai realised what he did AND THEN TELLING KODA WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
I cannot believe that movie got panned as hard as it did. It’s one of my absolute favorites.
@@chimericalbeast Sorry to dump an essay on you but you are correct and I can break it down:
Basically, Eisner the Disney CEO at the time was beefing with DreamWorks. The executive tier of Disney sabotaged those early Y2K animated films with lack of promotion, so they could blame the failure on 2D animation and justify a move to 100% CGI. The only character that got a tons of merchandise and preview space was Stitch. That was a tactic used so Disney could have at least 1 brand new character featured in the theme park parades and such.
Atlantis clawed its way into a tidy success and was set for a full TV sequel series but that was suspiciously cancelled after a few episodes were made. (The episodes were packaged into Milo's Return and released direct-to-video.) Treasure Planet only received something like 2 teaser trailers and a line of Burger King toys. It was also released the same week as the 2nd Harry Potter film- that was no mistake. Home on the Range didn't have to be anyone's favorite but it featured a lot of great actors and country stars. It was also hilarious and had an attractive animation style. Disney did a poor job of marketing that film to the Midwestern states and agricultural areas where it would've been more appreciated.
The early Y2K years were easily the most convoluted era in Disney's history.
I love Brother Bear, but that moment was really sad
That movie didnt just show children death, it showed children THE GUILT OF A MURDERER CARING FOR THE CHILD HE MADE AN ORPHAN. brother bear cut me deep
@@qryptid Sitka's death scene was the first time I cried when watching a movie. Brother Bear kind of fell off the radar after it's initial release but I found the film again as a teenager and it floored me.
The grandmother in Moana. You don't see the body, but you do get a heartfelt convo while she's dying, and you watch the soul leave.
yeah but she didn't get killed
@@mikemorro140 neither did mom and pops frozen
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I mean the ocean technically killed them
I thought she had a heart attack
@@mikemorro140 tru tru
I was literally just thinking about Tarzan's parents right before you talked about them! It's crazy when you rewatch that movie as an adult and realize you can actually see their (very recently deceased) bodies partially hidden amongst all the blood and claw marks in the tree house. It's also crazy to think about how many deaths we witness in that one Disney movie.
Traumatize us the way you used too🤣🤣🤣
I love this line
Naw naw naw, you can’t mention Tarzan without pointing out the bad guy accidentally hanging himself. Gaston’s death was oof too.
Gaston was originally supposed to survive the fall, but then get eaten alive by the same wolves that chased Belle to the Beast's castle earlier in the movie. 🙃 They reserved that fate for Scar instead.
Nah, his death was straight up satisfing for kid me, i despised his character SO MUUUCHHH
@@flamevix Cool info!
And if you pause the movie just right, you can see skulls in Gaston's eyes as he falls
Also Nicque you know which other parent death went hard as hell? Quasimodo's mom from "Hunchback of Notre Dame". Like she is running away from Frollo holding her baby, he is on a horse, and her last moments were begging for shelter at the church, and when Frollo catches her she just kicks her and she just BREAKS HER SKULL ON THE STAIRS. And then Frollo upon seeing the baby he WANTED TO DROWN IT. Like Hunchback of Notre Dame had no right to go that hard...and that's why I love it so much.
THIS! 😂 That shit was WILD!!
All while the choir is singing intensely.
@@LadyNightfire And then when the Arch Deacon confronted Frollo he told him that he can lie to himself but he couldn't escape the eyes of the Notre Dame, and then EVERY SINGLE STATUES side-eyes the HELL out of Frollo to the point in which he feels legit guilt. And while Frollo decides to turn the baby into his deformed slave, the Arch Deacon is still casually carrying the body of the mother! Again this movie went hard and I thank the Disney Gods for giving it to us.
I mean, that was the censored version of that story. Have you seen the musical? Or read/heard about the book? I’m surprised they decided to do that one at all. The whole story is disturbing and dark. Like, Esmeralda was supposed to die. Quasimodo curls up next her body and doesn’t move until he starves himself to death. Disney definitely made some effort to tone it down.
I am surprised they put Hellfire in there, though. That was… a very dark song for a Disney movie.
@@rachelicey604 Disney has toned down every story that brought them to fame.
Let’s take a moment to remember Atlantis. We get a monarch beat to death, now that’s some peak Disney
Don't see any more "little foot's mom" type in this day and age.. that shit hurt. Still cry to this day.
"Like a Crip in the streets."
My sides just left the stratosphere 😂😂😂
Yo, it's been 5 mins and I'm still wheezin🤣
Knew i couldn't be the only
I was LOOKING for this comment!😂
Gen X’ers still traumatized by “Old Yeller,” raise your hands.
You will never know the horror of all the crying in classrooms as they played it for us IN CLASS!!!! As a reward….for being good all year !!!!
I don’t remember that movie too well but did y’all ever have to read/see “Where the red fern grows”? The casualties of that story is one small child with an axe in his chest and two extremely good boy hunting dogs that were basically sent by angels. NONE of the deaths were PG.
I was never the same. Grew real quiet after having to experience that one *twice* (we read the book and then watched the movie)
Edit: SO I FORGOT TO MENTION A FEW THINGS AND A NEW MEMORY WAS UNLOCKED READING MY COMMENT BACK. I’m actually older Gen Z, born 1999. The school I went to was a Catholic school so yes the teachers were all absolutely off their rockers-they chose this book for our 3rd grade class, *literally,* because it mentioned angels, and they approached it like they were reading a picture book with the way they’d sometimes plop us down on the carpet and read it aloud to us.
ANYWAYS-sitting on the carpet with my teacher voice acting the book was how I heard the chapter where the child gets an axe in his chest and bleeds to death in the woods in front of the main character who is also a child. And I apparently started flashing back to the story of how my brother’s 12 year old friend died in a similar way a couple years before and the sermons and obituaries I heard at his funeral and began tearing up. So the teacher after reading the chapter asked me why I seemed so sad 🤡 and I told her what was going through my mind. She said “oh baby I’m sorry I didn’t mean to bring _that_ up”-AND WE CONTINUED READING THE BOOK THE NEXT DAY ANYWAYS. TRULY FUCKING UNHINGED NO WONDER I SUPPRESSED THE MEMORY
I don't trust dog movies anymore.
@@riverstein7251 WHAT??? Who decided that was child friendly?? 😱
Reminds me of my film class in college watching Requiem For a Dream, that was not an experience I wanted to have in front of 20 strangers
@@riverstein7251 We had to read Where the Red Fern Grows and Old Yeller in the same year AND WRITE A COMPARISON PAPER. Then our “reward” was… watching both movies. 😩😩😩 It was FOURTH GRADE. WE WERE NINE.
…this is how you make goths, people.
This is EXACTLY how I feel about the Disney villain's defeats during the finale of the film. Miss that Disney so much.
Lol I relate even tho I am ✨young✨ cause my parents are certainly not "shy enough" to "traumatize us"
Yo, syndrome was cut into pieces in Incredibles, on top of blowing up.
And the villain of Mulan? He first "died" by being buried alive, then turned super fabulous by becoming a literal FIREWORK. All of China knew he blew the hell up.
Agreed about Encanto, that second flashback WRECKED me even without them showing us the body.
Hunchback with its fanatical evil villain was my favourite and still is. Love it, so realistic but with great music and Phoebus was my love next to John Smith 😂
Can’t forget about Big Hero 6 either, not a parent, but that shit hurt😭
Little Foot's mom.
I ain't seen one like that in a long, long time.
My 3 year old self was traumatized
oh noz you unlocked a core memory for me. I remember loving land before time but refused to watch it because I couldn't handle the pain
Don Bluth directed, it was made by Universal and Amblin. For more of that finely crafted sad I recommend 'An American Tail'.
I didn't watch 'All Dogs Go to Heaven' until I was an adult, he made that one too.
@@lambentlamprey Don't forget The Secret of NIMH! That movie is my childhood. In too many ways. *shudder*
Also, though it's not Bluth, Watership Down.
@@SewardWriter I've never seen it, sounds like I need to change that :)
What's wild about Tarzan is that was actually the mild version. Apparently, they storyboarded the scene where the leopard goes after the dad. He manages to get off a shot but misses, DROPS the freaking gun and the is dragged offscreen by leopard claws as mournful music box music plays.
Oh wow. Glad what we got☠
If you listen /really/ closely as Kala walks over both bodies, you can hear 2 shots
My favourite on-screen death is Mother Gothel's, both villain and parent: seeing her age, fall and becoming dust was almost cathartic, as she saw her worst nightmare becoming reality and nullifying all her efforts and the results of the pain she inflicted on everyone else.
"... like a crip in the streets."😂😂
Funny enough, legend has it that when Walt Disney's Old Animators saw "The Lion King" in 1994, they felt showing Mufasa's dead body was too much as they felt that the idea of Mufasa being murdered was enough to get the point across like they did with "Bambi"; they just shot her off screen and Bambi had to accept that she was dead.
Funny how perceptions change like that. Now there isn't enough dead parents on-screen and the villains ain't obvious anymore they have to be subtle, secret villains.
I think it's because emotional manipulation and the duality of narcissistic/sociopathic individuals are more discussed. When the Disney Studio was first created in the 1900s, the US was barely out of brutality like normalized child labor and old west gunfights. Even then, most of their villain deaths were poetic or karmic. Disney heroes rarely kill the villains in their respective films. Usually their villains kind of fall on their own spears.
90’s kids are so old now we’re nostalgic for our trauma 😂
tarzan made the villain death traumatizing cuz it wasn't just a hanging, it was a full on neck snap!
Hunchback of Notre Dame's opening sequence...IYKYK
How about Treasure Planet? Mr. Arrow falling into a black hole, terrifying. Also you want to bring up trauma every flashback during “I’m Still Here” is an emotional gut punch. No dead parents but Jim’s relationship with his dad definitely ended six feet deep.
Treasure Planet will always have a special place in my heart as one of the best Disney movies I've ever seen 💜💙💚
I'm still FUCKING ANGRY this was supposed to get a sequel. IT WAS WRITTEN AND EVERYTHING
@@viddergrapho8488WHAT- OH NO NOW THAT MAKES ME ANGRY TOO
@@viddergrapho8488 What the hell dude, seriously?
Now I too am angry!
@@shinybearevidra I'm trying to remember who did a video on it. There are several good youtubers who dive into Disney fuckery
“Dad, Dad, come on, you gotta get up. Dad, we gotta go home…Help!…Somebody…anybody…help…” - Simba
7 year old me and my cousin bawling our eyes out 😢😢😢 That scene changed us. The memory still makes me catch my breath.
No seriously that shit absolutely DEMOLISHED ME
Poor simba!
This made me cry
Fun fact: the original scene was apparently much worse, but during a crowd test all the kids in the audience were apparently bawling, as well as their parents. So Disney toned it down. That was the TONED DOWN VERSION!!!!
The live action version makes it worse. Let’s just say if there was a contest for our eyes to cosplay as a waterfall I would win every place!
Tarzan was on a whole other level, there was no ‘well maybe they walked away from it’ it literally shown the silhouette of a guy’s death by hanging
First movie I watched in theaters was Lion King. I was 4. Was so excited with my pigtails and box of movie sized Starburst. I cried so damn loud when Mufasa died that they needed to take me home right after that scene🤣🤣🤣.
I remember being so shocked. Just gutted as Mufasa fell. Pretty sure my face mirrored Simba's. Thankfully my mom waited till it came out on tape so i watched it in my own living room so it felt safer.
Tarzan and Bambi were on another level with that trauma. I don't think anyone was left with a "happy" memory after those movies
NAW BC LIKE FOR BAMBI WE HEARD THE GUNSHOT AND EVERYONE *INCLUDING* THE KIDS WERE LIKE “omg she died!” I legit started SOBBING when his mom died I swear-
Bambi had little me thinking that every character died immediately after their final appearance in the movie.
In dvd the actual show the delete part see bambi mom killed by dogs !!!!
@@Dreamerlighting NAWWW
I still liked them and loved the endings for those ones
"The world sucks, you have it rough enough" Thank you for recognizing that, I'm struggling over here 💀
Walt Disney felt like he accidentally killed his mom and felt really guilty, so he didn't write parents for any of his characters and once he died it kept going as a staple.
He bought a house for his parents that had a carbon monoxide leak, his mother died and his father was very sick
I like how she mentions Elasa/Anna parents deaths and Tarzans parents deaths as if they aren't the same people
Not only that, but they legit showed Clayton's dead body hanging in the vines after he accidentally killed himself trying to get to Tarzan! That movie had more deaths of fleshed out characters than any other Disney movie
And while we're at it, can we get some fun villains again? Don't get me wrong, I like the greater variety we've gotten and the acknowledgement of some moral complexity where antagonists can be sympathetic. But can we still get some entertaining Jack Horner style villains once in awhile? With the kickass villain songs? Please?
bro im sayin!! villains just dont have that Hades flair anymore
Oh, I thoroughly enjoyed Dr. Facilier from the Princess and the Frog. His villain song is one of my favourites of all time.
The first 5 to 10 minutes of UP will always be an emotional roller-coaster
She's right though when you think about it. Learning about death and that it's not always kind/peaceful can teach you to appreciate what you have now, cause everything can end when you least expect it
Ray from the princess and the frog was the last Disney death that hurt, but he wasn't a parental figure.
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I cried like a baby when he died, and I was a full adult when I watched that movie. I loved that silly firefly in love with a star.
@@anyjen we had to put my dog down the day before I saw the movie. I thought I didn't have tears left, but I was wrong.
@@honeybri7061 I'm sorry about your pupper. It hurts so much to lose a furry family member. I know I still get teary-eyed when I remember my old cat Dido, who had to be put to sleep because of complications from her diabetes. She let me know when she'd had enough and it was time.
@@anyjen Thanks, and I'm sorry about Dido. That's an adorable name.
The evil queen from Snow White LITERALLY wanted the hunter to carve out Snow white's heart as proof of her death
Also the seen where she leaves the castle as an old hag and kicks a dead skeletons cup away from it..just brutal.
Don't forget that she fell backwards off a cliff after a lightning bolt hit near her, watched as the hugh rock, that she tried to use to kill the dwarves, rolls on top of her, and the vultures fly down to have her for DINNER! Even as a small child, we knew that she was dead.
Bambi’s mom dying had me bawling. That was so messed up, I would still probably cry if I watch that again.
As a kid I always thought Clayton fell, got covered in vines, and he was just brutally stabbed in the chest. I didn't even bother looking at the background until years later.
Mother Gothel in Tangled was very traumatizing...true, she wasn't Rapunzel's birth mom, but she raised her.
I thought the scariest part was the fact that she kidnapped her and Rapunzel never knew for so long... and her parents were never able to find her...
But we see Gothel fall from tower as she speed aging n hit the ground n becomes dust so yeah n she played head games to Raps all her life so yeah
Not to mention that she literally STABBED Flynn right in front of us.
@@hihi615 but she reunites with them eventually. 💜
But yeah, a tower, right there, with no accessible door so no one would try to explore it and they'd think it was abandoned. And it makes sense she instilled terror and codependency in Rapunzel so she'd never try escape and never cry for help or consider her mother anything but her protector. Classic abuse.
i mean it doesn’t really matter who it was we literally watched a person plummet to her death
"Ripe ole age of 3"..........That was the exact age I was when my dad showed me the G1 Transformers movie and then the next year, at the age of 4, my mom took me to see Tarzan which had CLAYTON'S FUCKING CORPSE HANGING VIA SHADOW AND A FUCKING BABY GORILLA KILLED BY A LEOPARD ALONG WITH TARZAN'S PARENTS BEING MAULED BY THE SAME DAMN LEOPARD! Man, I grew up with some fucked up shit......BRING THAT SHIT BACK DISNEY!
Ever played megaman?
In X4, theres a scene where 1 of the characters (who is a spy working for the bad guys) reveals who he really is and starts slicing soldiers up. Blood EVERYWHERE.
Sure the soliders were robots but they were basically human.
I got to that cutscene when I was 5. The heavy rock music in the metal was kinda traumatizing😂
I never realized just how DARK Tarzan was!!! He lost both his parents when he was a baby and his parents bodies were literally laying RIGHT next to him the entire time! Not only that, but if you pause the movie at just the right frame, you can see the silhouette of Clayton's dead body!!
an 07 baby here. i grew up on older disney movies (ariel, aladdin, etc) and mufasa's death still makes me cry.
Bambi traumatized tf out of me. Don't remember if Bambi is Disney, but F U C K that hurt
Yes it is just very old
@@kimberlyjones8152old Disney was something different. I remember thinking Aurora and Snow White were just laid out like it was a funeral when I was little.
@@licialee283 In Snow White's case that's because it literally WAS her funeral. They thought she was dead until the prince woke her up
Aurora...idk ergonomics? 😅
It was very emotional. Also Mufasa.
I hated it as a kid, but now that I'm older I appreciate that movies show that you can still have a happy life while grieving
In Tarzan you can even see the shadow of Clayton’s dead body hanging from a tree.
Dont forget the hunter in Tarzan, where we literally see the vines get tighter and tighter around his neck as he frees his limbs with the machete, until the only ones holding him up are the ones around his neck, and he drops-
And the last we see of him is a flash of lightning casting the silhouette of his hanged corpse against the tree.
Frollo and Gaston falling to their deaths, on screen
Nicque out here about to give me a new special interest I didn't know I needed.
"don't be shy traumatize us" I LOVE THIS ITS SENDING ME XD
Disney's growing up, the trauma is for the adults now- Pedro, Agnar and Iduna, and Hector were all truly heartwrenching
Aint nobody talking about Bambi's momma? 💔😭
That was technically off screen we didn't see the body or impact just bambi running running home and a gun shot
"Don't be shy! Traumatize us!" Best line ever
Don't forget the death of the hunter in Tarzan, we didn't see the body but they showed his shadow with the lightning flashing. Excellent artistry there.
"Like a crip in the streets" got me. I almost choked on my rice
I think Disney has moved on to a new method of traumatizing people. Lol.
The ocean scares me so much so the Frozen death was literally so scary to watch. I remember not wanting to go near water ever again after watching that.
I still remember seeing the Evil guy with the Shotgun in Tarzan get hanged by the vines when he tried to get out of it, man I still remember it very well it will never leave me. EVER.
Didn't even mention the hunchback of note dame seeing Frollo literally murder Quasi's mother on the steps of the note dame cathedral as she was holding her newborn baby.
Look at the number of parentless heroes we had. Death is basically how most of our movies started
Clayton's death was terrifying cause you could SEE HIM HANGING-
Bambi, fox & the hound and freakin little foots mom... All still make me big adult self cry 🤦🏾♀️🤣
Disney back then: My parents are dead.
Disney now: My parents are mentally abusive.
Jim Hawkins: *cries*
The death scene in Encanto was so offscreen and subtle I didn't even realize that he died.
Disney monetized Bluey episode about farts. Come on it’s definitely the parents that need to chill.
I would like to refer to Twisted the Untold Story of the Royal Vizier for the list of many ways Disney killed their villains back when they did 2D animated movies.
As an early 2000's girl I second this.
Born in 2001, I third this. One's mortality and its consequences are fundamental concepts to understand, in order both to prepare oneself for the worst and be more mindful of the situations oone might put themselves in.
I assume you mean Disney's animated films don't kill parents like they used to.
Don't know about y'all, but I still get choked up when I remember Queen Ramonda's death in Wakanda Forever. That shit had me sitting up like Simba going "Get up. Come on. You gotta get up.🥺"
The skulks in Gastons eyes when he fell to his death.
Little foot is so sad, within the first 5 minutes all the parents die and the kids are so mean to eachother 😂
“Y’all kids are soft now”
“Just kidding it sucks rn”
Spitting facts 😂
Idk why I’m laughing at this it really does suck.
At least we still have some form of parent/family abuse which is the height of the Disney animated movie brand
Don't forget that in Tarzan for a split second when the lighting flashes you can see the villain (what ever his name is can't remember) dangling from the vines after he and Tarzan fall after their fight
that consistent act 1 parent death was TOP TIER trauma for us kids
We did see Abualo Pedro’s death if I recall correctly.
Okay I was wrong in that we don’t *see* the death itself. But we see the guy’s cutlass pointing at him from Pedro’s POV, so… I think we can put 2+2 together on WHAT happened
Yeah I agree
The Good Dinosaur. Papa straight up ripped away by the flash flood right in front of us.
I'm not even a 90s kid but I REMEMBER THE TRUAMA IT GAVE US
You know something is wrong with society when people begin to feel nostalgia for their childhood traumas lol