Fuel reg should be around 40psi. Your timing is completely wrong. It's just compression coming out the exhaust. You'll need to dump the oil now as it will be full of fuel. Do a oil change and set the timing, then check for spark. Then start. Good luck bros 🤙🏼
gday guys. itching to see this running. just some ideas and things i have found helps.. pull all the plugs, crank the fuel out of it. flooded like a mo fo. let it dry out for a few hours, crank occasionally through that time with pump disconnected... also.. you can cook some plugs with the oxy (neutral flame) to get the fuel and oil off them right down the ceramic (pretty much want it glowing to self clean)put em in when still hot. those flat face ones you have in now are the easiest to wet foul. maybe get a set of the cheaper 3 prong ones. br8et if early housings br8eq if s4/s5 housings. set fueling to map based not tps for now to get it fired up. also make sure it has flood clear on and tps actually sees 100% so it cuts injectors when full throttle cranking. OFC verify timing and leads and put the cut off bottle with fuel away haha you are only making it worse when pouring more fuel in. cheers guys. hope it helps a bit.
Timing is wrong and its flooding itself. Only so many times you can clean plugs before theyll never be good again. So much cranking and fuel isnt good for anything hope you guys get it sorted 👍
Someone please come and help these legends they surely deserve it for all the effort theyre putting in we all just wanna hear it idling in all its 20b glory
@@misfirerotary shutting yourself? you've been spending too much time across the dutch :D haha man, keep at it - this is an epic saga, and when its done it will be insane.
The second i go on you tube i look for new vids from you guys. Having a very bad week and worse of a year but i switch of and watch and remember how it used to be done and there's something about how you guys still managed to find the time to reply and i thank you.
My bro, thanks so much for your support. I am sorry to hear you are having a hard time. I have heaps more content on it's way for you to take your mind off things 🤙
Billy's work ethic is something to behold. It doesn't need much and you'll be there. Try and tidy the wiring up, label stuff to make diagnosis easier and please fix the fuel rail leaks. Can't wait to hear it run. You can't beat a PP. 2, 3 or 4 rotor. 👍👌🍺
Timing out sounds like.. measure resistance of leads with multimeter . Pulley mark tdc..then insert dizzy. With marks lined up..but there will be 2 variants 180 deg apart
Ya can do the timing buy lining counter weight bolt to dowel on rear seal carrier. Use a mirror through inspection plate. Then put c.a.s in correct position. She be good!!!
bro i abso fuckin lutely love you guys aye, showing the rest of the world our wonderful and booming rotary culture, i finally m,ade it onto billys friend list haha so me and my bro are hustling our way upto getting a rotary because of your guys content. much love homies and keep doing what your doing!
Just a thought- timing sounds way off with the popping sound. The lower Gilmer pulley is probably mis marked . Was that pulley marked from the 13B engine? I would pull the inspection plate off and double check for TDC then check the pulley marking. Also it’s major flooded it needs complete drying out before proceeding. You guys are working and trying so hard. Please keep us posted. I wish I was there helping.
@@misfirerotary 🙏🙏🙏Thank you for the continued series!!! I look forward to seeing and hearing it screaming and Billy’s smile and excitement when that happens!!!
The crank angle sensor will always turn when fitted like a dizzy take the top off and make sure its in the right position on tdc also jump start from starter and engine
Hey ash awsome content bro must be so frustrating not to get it to start but when it runs it’s going sound awesome I can see billy excited I see billy very humble that everyone has done to help to get the RX3 running ❤
Cheers bro, Billy a GC - he is so moved by the support he has received. Just released another video of the car started, hope you get the chance to watch - it's worth it🤙🤙
I know a lot of random comments but its doing everyone head in i think but instead of wasting expensive plugs. Just to get it fired just use b5es plugs
You need to set the timing. Find and mark TDC. Lock the ecu, set the timing and try again. And I wouldn't be doing anything else before fixing every fuel leak. They have to be fixed at some point, makes sense to do it before the car/shed goes up in flames. I'm really enjoying the videos (probably for the wrong reasons). I admire your persistence, maybe have a break and gather your thoughts for a day or 2. Cheers from Aus.
110% So close! It's always the last little bit that's a pain in the fuk'n ass. Sometimes it helps to step back for a short time to reset and come back to it fresh . 🙏
Love your guys work and commitment lads 100%. I don’t know a lot about rotary’s but it looks like you guys have a lot of people chucking you ideas! Absolutely fizzing to see your guys faces when it’s running!! And bill to lay a phat burnout when she running mint!!👌 Charlie mate shit your such a humble fulla!
Literally has me head fuckd heyy. Only thing can do is PROCESS OF ELIMINATION Re set timing marks. Tdc All earths inc fuel pump and ecu. Power wires and sensor wires Check for any spark variants I know its easy saying this and you guys have tried everything. But honesty ive been here before. And it was one fukn connector When you dont work on your car yourself and others help many words are miss communicated. I also feel for billy as he may of overseen one common aspect of build based on this above. Back to Basics and process of elimination 🤙 even if you think its right check it all . Hope you guys get this Beast Ripping soon , much Love to All❤ Keep vids rolling Buddy 🤙
But you guys are poring fuel in and still no luck. Its 100 persent timing. Even if as a little thing like igniter pulse ms is of. Might need re syc. . A lot of things. Software problem? .
Hey ash solid work from you guys aye can’t wait to hear that 20b pumping 🤙🏾🤙🏾bit off the subject but would you be doing any rotary content in Sydney any time soon?
Bro I really miss doing vids in Sydney 😢😢😢😢so many fkn amazing builds ❤️❤️❤️❤️to get there real soon I mite tag along to a rx nation meet or visit 5 shops in a day🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Bloody good effort Boyz, lots of comments and compliments. Ask the boys around for a borescope put it down number 1, set the timming off the apex seals, leading and trailing mark on the gilmer pulley. But im sure you boyz got it running by now. Bl@@dy Gold content. Cheers Ash you making everyone glued to the screen.
Take the pulley off the keyway should be facing towards passanger side.. leading 5deg atdc..trailing 20deg atdc.put the dizzy in the middle so you can move it each way . Loosly.
It’s bloody amazing ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️please keep in mind a ecu that works is around 2k ish alone intake 6k oil cooler 1k lines thousands oils seatbelts that r safe etc etc then the poor bros truck is well needs work just to make it drivable brake pads another battery because he cannot turn it has to keep it running leaks coming from everywhere on that tyres are blowing out on the highway as I filmed and left in vid also the bro has no transportation to go to the shops as he spent everything on the 20🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏understand I down want to air laundry here just think it’s appropriate how hard billy works and sometimes friends see a bro that needs a hand up❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@misfirerotary I get that bro, he's not alone in that situation, he has a microtech, he has the parts, he needs a fuel system set up correctly, new wiring loom and a tune would go along way, doesn't need to aim for the stars with superstar parts..Make shit happen with what he's got.. just need smarter heads looking at it.. stop guessing it causes more problems..
Dump about 200ml of 2 stroke down each intake port this will create better compression and get rid of the bore wash that’s happened with all that fuel that’s being dropped in there And get a new gauge to be able to set the fuel reg correctly
Will be a smoke show when it starts also set the timing take the 2 front rotas plugs out and with a fine bit of wire go into the hole and check that the rota against the spark plugs holes and wires depth is the same this means it at tdc and then drop the cas in with cover off as will show where it’s sitting on the triggers
There’s probly no problem with the reg gauges you can get for like $20 off trademe etc no doubt he’s got one laying round set the gauge to 40psi with just ignition on
Timing seems all wrong with it dumping fuel out the exhaust like that, pull those gilmore gears off put the standard gears back on im guessing they be on a key way ? Time it up , use a light and fire it up 🤘 keep going boys youll get there chur chur
U were rite again bro I am so greatful that people have jumped on board and supported a fellow rotor guy and general gc Billy’s the real deal bloody hard worker❤️🙏🤘
How good is the content? The 3 amigos I watched a Vargas brothers video the other day. Couldn’t finish it. Was almost too unrealistic with the big money builds. You 3 are down to earth and on a lot of people’s levels. Every upload is killer
True bro I’ve reached out to try get sponsors with no joy as yet We r only small fry’s messing around having fun so not sure if that has something todo with it❤️🙏?
, does billy have the firing order set to 360 degrees with or withou split spark on in his ignition settings im not sure if 20b vs 13b is different or not but it was 360 degrees firing time ,i was gonna ask what rpm it was spinning over at but then seen the bro checking it 🙏💪 wonder if its bad fuel an timing settings 🤔 the settings on the ecu i dont think billy has trouble with but i had a similar experience so its worth a double check if its on 360 degrees for the firing order safe as for the 13b is all i know 💯🙏 i would drain the fuel bro throw some 98 high octane in there or 95 and octane booster, pull the plugs out every half a dozen trys they are probably wet an need another clean again mine would soak an stop sparking, pullem out use the airgun to clean and dry them an turn it over to spray the fuel/ oil buildup out the sparkplug holes, clean up an put the plugs in again see if it helps with better spark 🔥 also check the alternator belt isn't to tight you can loosen it off more to help with rotation speed alittle less tension does go along way , shouldn't be to tight anyway the bro will know not to tension them cause of the front bearings 😉🙌 but always good to double over things, anything that helps , i would also change the ground from the alloy housing and wheeltub sheet metel to the chassis rail or crossmember and onto the side of the irons by the spark plugs somewhere maybe ? for a better ground as iron is a stronger grounding conductor then alloy, both will do the trick but i would definitely do that all the coils earth on the engine too aye , she definitely needs a new battery i would start with battery new fuel check settings and the grounding again its such a headache the amount of times ive had to double tripple check but it makes it so much more rewarding at the end of the day when its sorted lets goo yall putting in the work cant wait to see it get sorted an everyone enjoying those litt vibes 2023 going out with BRAAP💯✌️🫡💨💨
Just a thought, are the trailing and leading spark wires around the wrong way? Could be something as simple as that. Keep up the good work guys, enjoying the content !
Donated $100 hope that helps boys I wish i could give yaz more but i cant right now Sounds like a timing problem ay. I reckon get one of the boys from the rotor shops there to give use a hand im sure they can get it started bro I just wanna see billy happy breaks my heart seeing him not himself he would be so stressed out the poor bloke. Keep up the grind boys im sure use will get it started soon ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Cheers jason❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏same bro it’s hard me watching someone try so hard and it not run properly we all getting behind him some things in life are just worth giving it ur all👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hmmm so you flipped the CAS 180 which didnt see much of a change. The other thing you can try is most ECUs have a "timing offset" so you can leave the CAS in place and try to trick the ECU into thinking TDC is another place. When you do this you can adjust the offset by 20* intervals until it fires up. So close! i'll be donating a few bucks next pay day.
Have we done comp test yet? I feel like it's getting too much fuel. I'm no rotor expert but it looks like you guys are on a wild goose chase. See if it'll keep running with a bottle of engine start with a 1 second burst at a time and fuel pump off. This would help see if you have enough compression and close ish timing. Keep the faith you'll get it soon.
Bro I wanna see this thing run bad aye. But damn man. That fuel system leaking from everywhere isn't helping!😳 It needs a good going over aye. It'll probably never have consistant pressure until then🤙🏼
I’ve reached out to turbosmart haltech efi would be so kewl to get the ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️we are battelers with passion for rotors 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏hope we get some help
Starting a rotor is the worst, I spent 3 nights trying to get my freshly built 13b started before we got it going. You keep second guessing and questioning your self. Next episode it will fire up 100%
And start fresh by getting rid of gilmer drive. Use std harmonic just till you get it sorted. Mark the flywheel at the top as a reference to. Ecu is probably firing as a 13b and doesn't know tge 3rd rotor is even there. Im broke to atm but i have 1$ in the bank but everyone has to do it to be any help ps. I think you guys been working on it to long and now have tunnel vision do evryone pitch in and send it to a decent shop
Take your time check to simple things boys, use plugs with a single electrode . What’s to say the timing isn’t out 90 or 270 degrees out .when’s the next vid in no ash?
Yeah the boys do what you can with what you got not always the best but its what you got😢😂the the way charlie yells for fk sacks chill the fk out bro haha
Are the leads going to the correct spark plugs? Leading going to trailing perhaps? Or leads going to the wrong rotor? You can see the unburned fuel coming out the exhaust.
@@misfirerotary alright bro. Really seems like an ignition issue whether it's timing or weak spark I cant say. But all that unburned fuel screams ignition issue to me. Or hes put so much fuel in the tune theres no chance of igniting it lol
If it is the problem that's crazy because I've been tryna fix my misfire for 2 years 😆, I did just find a crack in the pcv hose so hope that's it, and don't forget I'm more than keen on clicking on the next video's to come out there fkn sick, I'll send a few $ to help out for the tune!
@misfirerotary he goes into alot of detail with the tune etc, i remember he was having similar issues something to do with fuel? Cheers for the epic content bro Billy and Charlie are true legends!
Piss off the gilmer drive add a decent 5pk belt setup with proper pulleys and set tdc before you chase your tails all day.Leaking fuel rail sucking air wont help the injectors. Wet plugs buzzed on a wire wheel need to go..time for new plugs.Need to start off with the basics and tick them off or your just gonna go round in circles.Those rails need to be redone too..even if you get it running I can see the rails failing and burning it to the ground.
Its not timing it should recheck take out rotors leading tailing use dia indicator when flat and both same dept then check timing make pp run alot advance or look down hole line apex to the center of tail plug make pulley then turn other apex seal to center of leading plug mark pulley then half the distance between two marks run a least 7 adv when turning could be as high as 15 advanced at 7000 rpm
Is distributor throwing out enough V .. or coil pack You boys got a multimeter 🤙 What readings u getting on different components. Was going to say check all the connectors and earth's n shit but you done in last vid.
Fuel reg should be around 40psi. Your timing is completely wrong. It's just compression coming out the exhaust. You'll need to dump the oil now as it will be full of fuel.
Do a oil change and set the timing, then check for spark. Then start.
Good luck bros 🤙🏼
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️thankyou so so much bloody great advice I will ensure that it all done thanks brother ur a proper gc❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@misfirerotary Anytime ash. Love the content, keep it up. One day your account is gonna be huge
100% back this comment 👍 definitely oil n filter change.. oil would be fuely as!!
and Timing definitely sounds out!!
fuel pressure will probably need to be around 60psi but will depend on injector sizes etc etc
gday guys. itching to see this running. just some ideas and things i have found helps.. pull all the plugs, crank the fuel out of it. flooded like a mo fo. let it dry out for a few hours, crank occasionally through that time with pump disconnected... also.. you can cook some plugs with the oxy (neutral flame) to get the fuel and oil off them right down the ceramic (pretty much want it glowing to self clean)put em in when still hot. those flat face ones you have in now are the easiest to wet foul. maybe get a set of the cheaper 3 prong ones. br8et if early housings br8eq if s4/s5 housings. set fueling to map based not tps for now to get it fired up. also make sure it has flood clear on and tps actually sees 100% so it cuts injectors when full throttle cranking.
OFC verify timing and leads and put the cut off bottle with fuel away haha you are only making it worse when pouring more fuel in.
cheers guys. hope it helps a bit.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏absolutely gold comment thankyou so so much I will try all of that and take on board👌❤️🙏
Can we all say a small prayer for that starter for holding up so long. Keep at it fellas, the euphoria of a clean start and run will be amazing.
We gotta get the bro a good battery and that starter is about to retire🤣🤣🤣🤣🤘
🔥 Ąll ţhę Braps! 🤘😎
That starter is amazing to hold up under all that stress!!! Let’s gold plate it after this series is over haha 😂 💪💪💪💪
Think we will auction it🤣🤣🤣
@@misfirerotary 👍👍👍🙌🙌😂😂😂😂
Timing is wrong and its flooding itself. Only so many times you can clean plugs before theyll never be good again. So much cranking and fuel isnt good for anything hope you guys get it sorted 👍
Agree 💯👊we were trying to push it up hill as I had a flight and we all wanted to get it going sweet so we busted all day❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘🤘
Someone please come and help these legends they surely deserve it for all the effort theyre putting in we all just wanna hear it idling in all its 20b glory
We going to get it done I’m trying my very best to get more footage out❤️❤️🤘🤘🙏🙏🙏
Just to see Billys face when its runnin grouse will make my day ,keep at it bud, i know you wont give up
I’m shutting myself when it is he’s going to go all out🤣🤣🤣🤣🤘🤘🤘🤘
@@misfirerotary shutting yourself? you've been spending too much time across the dutch :D haha man, keep at it - this is an epic saga, and when its done it will be insane.
*blow on the pie! 😂
Classic! 👊😎
Haha🤣🤣🤣
Cheers brother❤️🤘👊
The second i go on you tube i look for new vids from you guys. Having a very bad week and worse of a year but i switch of and watch and remember how it used to be done and there's something about how you guys still managed to find the time to reply and i thank you.
My bro, thanks so much for your support. I am sorry to hear you are having a hard time. I have heaps more content on it's way for you to take your mind off things 🤙
@@misfirerotary .thanks guys. No matter how bad it is someone has it worse so im greatfull
fark the boiz are raw AF man love to see it too many channels out here just throwing they purses around 🤣
Cheers bro yea we just having fun enjoying each others company and building rotors❤️❤️🤘🤘
your doing a massive job my dude editing and travelling across the ditch cheers for the wicked content man @@misfirerotary
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️doing it my pleasure
No complaints about the resilience of that starter though 💪
Agree cannot believe it’s holding together❤️❤️
from that smoking to now its a beauty@@misfirerotary
ken oath!
Billy's work ethic is something to behold. It doesn't need much and you'll be there.
Try and tidy the wiring up, label stuff to make diagnosis easier and please fix the fuel rail leaks.
Can't wait to hear it run. You can't beat a PP. 2, 3 or 4 rotor.
👍👌🍺
Hundy bro u know he will get there fun bringing people on the journey from the start all the wins and battles❤️🤘🤘
Timing out sounds like.. measure resistance of leads with multimeter . Pulley mark tdc..then insert dizzy. With marks lined up..but there will be 2 variants 180 deg apart
Ya can do the timing buy lining counter weight bolt to dowel on rear seal carrier. Use a mirror through inspection plate. Then put c.a.s in correct position. She be good!!!
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏thankyou so much Zach great advice cheers brother
Yea i wouldnt trust marks on gilmer.
@@misfirerotary too easy cuzz.
Yes was part of the problem we just found out what it was😬😬😬😬
bro i abso fuckin lutely love you guys aye, showing the rest of the world our wonderful and booming rotary culture, i finally m,ade it onto billys friend list haha so me and my bro are hustling our way upto getting a rotary because of your guys content. much love homies and keep doing what your doing!
Fkn mean to hear bro rotors are d sht😜🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘❤️❤️❤️
Love the commitment lads. Keep grinding. You'll sort it 🤙
Cheers brother it’s the rotary way never give up❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘🤘🤘🤘
Just a thought- timing sounds way off with the popping sound. The lower Gilmer pulley is probably mis marked . Was that pulley marked from the 13B engine? I would pull the inspection plate off and double check for TDC then check the pulley marking. Also it’s major flooded it needs complete drying out before proceeding. You guys are working and trying so hard. Please keep us posted. I wish I was there helping.
I think ur bang on brother❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘🤘🤘new vid out tmrw👌
@@misfirerotary 🙏🙏🙏Thank you for the continued series!!! I look forward to seeing and hearing it screaming and Billy’s smile and excitement when that happens!!!
Bro will be able to have a fry up on that starter motor 😅
Haha 🤣🤣
The crank angle sensor will always turn when fitted like a dizzy take the top off and make sure its in the right position on tdc also jump start from starter and engine
Hundy wish we did that❤️🙏🙏when we were in the moment I just didn’t think todo it🤦🏼♂️I should know better!
Hey ash awsome content bro must be so frustrating not to get it to start but when it runs it’s going sound awesome I can see billy excited I see billy very humble that everyone has done to help to get the RX3 running ❤
Cheers bro, Billy a GC - he is so moved by the support he has received. Just released another video of the car started, hope you get the chance to watch - it's worth it🤙🤙
@@misfirerotary I watch all your videos bro I will be watching
Those deep dish modgies are a thing of beauty
Tuff as fk still hey🤘❤️❤️
My dudes what microtech is on there it sounds like the coils are mixed up. I’ll look up the schematics
16c was new and cost the bro a lot
Donated $50, hope you guys can get it sorted, look forward to see the beast running.
Thankyou so so much Keith that’s huge ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏again really appreciate it
@@misfirerotary No worries Ash, happy to help out mate.
The First couple min sounded like a hit & miss motor from Glenbrook vintage railway
Haha we will eventually hear it huuummmming❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘
I know a lot of random comments but its doing everyone head in i think but instead of wasting expensive plugs. Just to get it fired just use b5es plugs
Bloody good idea bro I’ll do that 🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
You need to set the timing.
Find and mark TDC.
Lock the ecu, set the timing and try again.
And I wouldn't be doing anything else before fixing every fuel leak.
They have to be fixed at some point, makes sense to do it before the car/shed goes up in flames.
I'm really enjoying the videos (probably for the wrong reasons).
I admire your persistence, maybe have a break and gather your thoughts for a day or 2.
Cheers from Aus.
Cheers hearing from u brotha 🤘good advice🙏👌👍👍
Yall deserve to get this beast started! cant wait to see yalls get it!
Pushing hard to get it done 🤘🤘🤘taking a team of people
The computer tables must be hating the constant fuel and spark variances
Think that’s adding to it
110% So close! It's always the last little bit that's a pain in the fuk'n ass. Sometimes it helps to step back for a short time to reset and come back to it fresh . 🙏
💯agree!!!! We need a reset and plan of attack
I had to watch this sober today lol couldn't remember what happened last night 😅 legend Ash
Baaahaaaa that’s what we want to hear we’re u on that purple goanna sht🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️
Love your guys work and commitment lads 100%. I don’t know a lot about rotary’s but it looks like you guys have a lot of people chucking you ideas! Absolutely fizzing to see your guys faces when it’s running!! And bill to lay a phat burnout when she running mint!!👌
Charlie mate shit your such a humble fulla!
❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏luv ur comment brother👊yea we going to laying rubber down real soon🤘🤘and the bro Charlie without him this stuff couldn’t happen👍
Dam the starter motors on that car must be red hot😮
Yep I’ll be making sure the 3 sees a good second hand starter just to make sure we stretch donations as so many things to fix❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏
Literally has me head fuckd heyy. Only thing can do is PROCESS OF ELIMINATION
Re set timing marks. Tdc
All earths inc fuel pump and ecu.
Power wires and sensor wires
Check for any spark variants
I know its easy saying this and you guys have tried everything.
But honesty ive been here before.
And it was one fukn connector
When you dont work on your car yourself and others help many words are miss communicated.
I also feel for billy as he may of overseen one common aspect of build based on this above.
Back to Basics and process of elimination 🤙 even if you think its right check it all .
Hope you guys get this Beast Ripping soon , much Love to All❤
Keep vids rolling Buddy 🤙
Bloody gold brother thank you so so much❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🤘🤘🤘👍👊
Just a idea . It might be silly ... but if fuel rails got leak will it suck in air an make a air lock in injectors?
Huh didn’t think of that❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
But you guys are poring fuel in and still no luck. Its 100 persent timing. Even if as a little thing like igniter pulse ms is of. Might need re syc. . A lot of things. Software problem? .
I'd say timing too definitely. But the leaks won't be helping.
This motor is close to break in kms off the starter alone.
You’ll get it boys
Haha she b good to go when we get these things sorted👌👌
Hey ash solid work from you guys aye can’t wait to hear that 20b pumping 🤙🏾🤙🏾bit off the subject but would you be doing any rotary content in Sydney any time soon?
Bro I really miss doing vids in Sydney 😢😢😢😢so many fkn amazing builds ❤️❤️❤️❤️to get there real soon I mite tag along to a rx nation meet or visit 5 shops in a day🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Bloody good effort Boyz, lots of comments and compliments. Ask the boys around for a borescope put it down number 1, set the timming off the apex seals, leading and trailing mark on the gilmer pulley. But im sure you boyz got it running by now. Bl@@dy Gold content. Cheers Ash you making everyone glued to the screen.
My pleasure bro we living the life❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
@@misfirerotary the shiznick Bro
Timing!! Good luck guys 👍
First thing I am going to address🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️
Safety squints engage😎 love it...🤣🤣
Solving problems all apart of the fun it was a tuff day and u can see at the end we all luved it I’m sure we’d do it all again❤️❤️🤘
Another epic vlog . Made my night YTFB 😎🤘❤️
Cheers jay that’s bloody awesome to hear bro comments like this and the effect these vids are making ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🤘🤘🤘🤘👊
@@misfirerotary I look forward to see what this venture turns into ❤️😎🤘keep doing you bruv . Have a solid week bro 💪
New vid out tmrw❤️😬😬😬😬🤘🤘🤘
Take the pulley off the keyway should be facing towards passanger side.. leading 5deg atdc..trailing 20deg atdc.put the dizzy in the middle so you can move it each way . Loosly.
🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️gold
Charlie's a gc aye bro seems like a good bloke
Yep he’s a good friend I trust him and know he’s always looking out for me friends like that are rare❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@misfirerotary thats awesome bro. Yous are all good buggers!
Love the vids cuz! Great effort and commitment bois but just rip it out and start from scratch... 🤭😝
Billy’s going to b out of control when it’s running😬😬😬😬🤣🤣🤣🤣😜🤘
That starter motor deserves to be Knighted what a soljah !!
Baaahaaa yea we’ll auction it off🤣🤣🤣
It sounds like the ignition timing is out !
Do u think replace dizzy?🙏
@@misfirerotary Maybe, perhaps try that !
We on!!!💯🔥🔥🔥🔥
Hard brother
There's $5000+ in go fund me. Send it to a shop already..
It’s bloody amazing ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️please keep in mind a ecu that works is around 2k ish alone intake 6k oil cooler 1k lines thousands oils seatbelts that r safe etc etc then the poor bros truck is well needs work just to make it drivable brake pads another battery because he cannot turn it has to keep it running leaks coming from everywhere on that tyres are blowing out on the highway as I filmed and left in vid also the bro has no transportation to go to the shops as he spent everything on the 20🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏understand I down want to air laundry here just think it’s appropriate how hard billy works and sometimes friends see a bro that needs a hand up❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@misfirerotary I get that bro, he's not alone in that situation, he has a microtech, he has the parts, he needs a fuel system set up correctly, new wiring loom and a tune would go along way, doesn't need to aim for the stars with superstar parts..Make shit happen with what he's got.. just need smarter heads looking at it.. stop guessing it causes more problems..
Cannot wait for u to watch tmrws video😳😳😳😳😳😳😳❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘🤘🤘
To find Tdc I think it’s when the keyway on the eccentric shaft is at 3 o’clock then you can mark your Gilmore pulley
That’s above my knowledge i let the people that who have built hundreds of engines do that I never say anything that technical🙏🤘🤘❤️
Dump about 200ml of 2 stroke down each intake port this will create better compression and get rid of the bore wash that’s happened with all that fuel that’s being dropped in there
And get a new gauge to be able to set the fuel reg correctly
💯bro🙏🙏🙏I spoke with turbosmart today hoping they can help that fuel reg was running 80psi I just found out after this aired😬😬😬😬😬😬😬😬
Will be a smoke show when it starts also set the timing take the 2 front rotas plugs out and with a fine bit of wire go into the hole and check that the rota against the spark plugs holes and wires depth is the same this means it at tdc and then drop the cas in with cover off as will show where it’s sitting on the triggers
Solid advice here ash
There’s probly no problem with the reg gauges you can get for like $20 off trademe etc no doubt he’s got one laying round set the gauge to 40psi with just ignition on
Unreal ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️and appreciate it so much 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Timing seems all wrong with it dumping fuel out the exhaust like that, pull those gilmore gears off put the standard gears back on im guessing they be on a key way ? Time it up , use a light and fire it up 🤘 keep going boys youll get there chur chur
Cheers for the comment bro, just put up another vid last night of the beast started. Hope you get the chance to watch it - more content on it's way🤘
Good point about the Gilmores fkn timing marks can be anywhere
1st thing hey sort timing❤️❤️❤️
Once its going bro lets get chearlies car in on misfire 💯💯 an see what future plans he has for his
Bloody great idea and a send it skid too❤️❤️🤘🤘🤘🤣
Keep it up boys🤙🏻🤙🏻 can’t wait to hear the brap
Ohhh it’s on soon my bro🤘🤘
See told you Ash the boys would get on board 💪
Maybe not a long block but every little bit helps the cause
U were rite again bro I am so greatful that people have jumped on board and supported a fellow rotor guy and general gc Billy’s the real deal bloody hard worker❤️🙏🤘
How good is the content?
The 3 amigos
I watched a Vargas brothers video the other day. Couldn’t finish it. Was almost too unrealistic with the big money builds. You 3 are down to earth and on a lot of people’s levels. Every upload is killer
Wait till u see tmrw vids🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😬😬😬😬😬😬😜😜😳
Try running the starter off a seperate battery the draw from the starter motor might be dropping voltage to ignition and ecu
Bloody great idea🙏❤️🤘🤘
Donating billy some good quality footage wouldnt go astray or maby sponsors the bros build his cars are your views ..... s1rota for the win ❤
True bro I’ve reached out to try get sponsors with no joy as yet
We r only small fry’s messing around having fun so not sure if that has something todo with it❤️🙏?
Cant wait to see you pulling 10.500 rpm every gear with all your mates that help you build if that what it all about
Haha, yeah bro & we know Billy won’t hold back 🤣🤙
, does billy have the firing order set to 360 degrees with or withou split spark on in his ignition settings im not sure if 20b vs 13b is different or not but it was 360 degrees firing time ,i was gonna ask what rpm it was spinning over at but then seen the bro checking it 🙏💪 wonder if its bad fuel an timing settings 🤔 the settings on the ecu i dont think billy has trouble with but i had a similar experience so its worth a double check if its on 360 degrees for the firing order safe as for the 13b is all i know 💯🙏 i would drain the fuel bro throw some 98 high octane in there or 95 and octane booster, pull the plugs out every half a dozen trys they are probably wet an need another clean again mine would soak an stop sparking, pullem out use the airgun to clean and dry them an turn it over to spray the fuel/ oil buildup out the sparkplug holes, clean up an put the plugs in again see if it helps with better spark 🔥 also check the alternator belt isn't to tight you can loosen it off more to help with rotation speed alittle less tension does go along way , shouldn't be to tight anyway the bro will know not to tension them cause of the front bearings 😉🙌 but always good to double over things, anything that helps , i would also change the ground from the alloy housing and wheeltub sheet metel to the chassis rail or crossmember and onto the side of the irons by the spark plugs somewhere maybe ? for a better ground as iron is a stronger grounding conductor then alloy, both will do the trick but i would definitely do that all the coils earth on the engine too aye , she definitely needs a new battery i would start with battery new fuel check settings and the grounding again its such a headache the amount of times ive had to double tripple check but it makes it so much more rewarding at the end of the day when its sorted lets goo yall putting in the work cant wait to see it get sorted an everyone enjoying those litt vibes 2023 going out with BRAAP💯✌️🫡💨💨
Bro ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️that bloody awesome comment 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👊
Just a thought, are the trailing and leading spark wires around the wrong way? Could be something as simple as that. Keep up the good work guys, enjoying the content !
Cheers brother yes tested that👍👍were around 👌
"I'm shutting my eyes"
Billy 2023
Haha stay with us Tom🤘🤘
@@misfirerotary I actually will I'm djin in nz soon
Cannot wait for u to see next video 😜😜😬😬😬😬😬🤘
Donated $100 hope that helps boys
I wish i could give yaz more but i cant right now
Sounds like a timing problem ay. I reckon get one of the boys from the rotor shops there to give use a hand im sure they can get it started bro
I just wanna see billy happy breaks my heart seeing him not himself he would be so stressed out the poor bloke.
Keep up the grind boys im sure use will get it started soon ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Cheers jason❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏same bro it’s hard me watching someone try so hard and it not run properly we all getting behind him some things in life are just worth giving it ur all👍👍👍👍👍👍
Billy the mad scientist and his two amigos
Haha I was a soldier when working with the bro only need one general🤣❤️🤘🤘
Hmmm so you flipped the CAS 180 which didnt see much of a change. The other thing you can try is most ECUs have a "timing offset" so you can leave the CAS in place and try to trick the ECU into thinking TDC is another place. When you do this you can adjust the offset by 20* intervals until it fires up.
So close! i'll be donating a few bucks next pay day.
I think u r bang on brother🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️I’ll try it tonight
Is the microtech getting all the signals it needs to operate? Water temp, tps, vacuum etc etc?
Another bloody good point❤️🙏we were all rushing and not stopping to think tonight I will sort all the basics👍👍
Need the part number for that starter. Asking for a friend 😂
Haha u can buy this one 🤣🤣🤣🤘❤️
Have we done comp test yet? I feel like it's getting too much fuel. I'm no rotor expert but it looks like you guys are on a wild goose chase.
See if it'll keep running with a bottle of engine start with a 1 second burst at a time and fuel pump off. This would help see if you have enough compression and close ish timing. Keep the faith you'll get it soon.
Going to go through it all in a bit it’s 1230 pm here another all night
Bro I wanna see this thing run bad aye. But damn man. That fuel system leaking from everywhere isn't helping!😳
It needs a good going over aye. It'll probably never have consistant pressure until then🤙🏼
I’ll get it sorted no stress bro we all going to get it done like a boss❤️❤️🤘🤘not long now
Hello from California 🤙 you crazy bastards are like myself,not a lot of money, but endless drive and motivation 👍💪✌️
Kewl hearing from ya bro and that our vids r reaching u🤘🤘🤘🤘yea we luv hanging and doin stpd sht🤣🤣🤣🤘🤘
I already know this one is going to be another banger
Wait till it’s humming🤘🤘🤘❤️
Oooo yeah
Thanks
Cheers Hugh really appreciate it🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️👊
Shout out to that starter motor it's a beast
Haha I’ve got to replace that for the bro she’s on last legs🤣🤣🤣🤘
Engines done 1000K's and hasn't even started!
Baahaaa🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️gold
@@misfirerotary Loving the content Ash.
Looks like you have about 5k of no money. Go harddd. :D
Going to make every single cent count🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
You guys deserve it.@@misfirerotary
The boy's gave it a good go maybe next time bro
Next time I show this on the channel it will b running better🤞🏻😬😬😬😬
@@misfirerotarywill bro I just donated some coin so I'll be looking forward to the next vlogs
Bro cannot wait editing as we speak in Billy’s driveway where me and Charlie are sleeping tonight🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Take your time Billy no rush bro
Billy check the injectors that all your change
Haha no holding the bro up he’s a machine
Where's AG1s sponsorship ffsake. Kiwi made not for kiwis just celebs. Will try rev them up.
I’ve reached out to turbosmart haltech efi would be so kewl to get the ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️we are battelers with passion for rotors 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏hope we get some help
Keep it the good work boys love the videos, I just put in a few bucks to help get this thing going 👌🏽
❤️❤️❤️cheers Wesley greatly appreciate every cent counts🙏🙏
The struggle is real ! Hope you guys can get some luck soon 🙏
Hey Danny we ain’t going to stop❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🤘
Hey Ash, how many hours so far u think?, you all are determined, great to be on this journey with u fellas
Hundreds of hours easily and going to be worth every one real soon🙏🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
It just sounds like the timing is wrong, ignition outputs from the ecu on the wrong coils? its defiantly a ignition or spark related problem.
I agree 💯going to find out now🤘🤘
Starting a rotor is the worst, I spent 3 nights trying to get my freshly built 13b started before we got it going. You keep second guessing and questioning your self. Next episode it will fire up 100%
Think any rotor owner that has been on the journey knows exactly what ur talking about it really can get in ur head I understand completely brother🤘
From memory bill had the same issue while at Réunion so maybe it's something to do with ecu?
New ecu I recon it’s the dizzy signal ??? Find a better dizzy I think
And start fresh by getting rid of gilmer drive. Use std harmonic just till you get it sorted. Mark the flywheel at the top as a reference to. Ecu is probably firing as a 13b and doesn't know tge 3rd rotor is even there. Im broke to atm but i have 1$ in the bank but everyone has to do it to be any help ps. I think you guys been working on it to long and now have tunnel vision do evryone pitch in and send it to a decent shop
Cheers Pete❤️❤️❤️❤️we r on top of it cannot wait to show u nec vid 🤘🤘
Take your time check to simple things boys, use plugs with a single electrode . What’s to say the timing isn’t out 90 or 270 degrees out .when’s the next vid in no ash?
I’m trying my best to make it happen 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Yeah the boys do what you can with what you got not always the best but its what you got😢😂the the way charlie yells for fk sacks chill the fk out bro haha
Haha yea had to leave that in keeps vid honest❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘
love the content brother
Cheers bro👍for commenting we all enjoy reading them💯👊
Put a stock crank pulley on to get TDC. Start there
Cheers bro - just released another video of the car started, hope you get the chance to watch - it's worth it🤙🤙
Are the leads going to the correct spark plugs? Leading going to trailing perhaps? Or leads going to the wrong rotor? You can see the unburned fuel coming out the exhaust.
I checked those leads at least 3 times and also the microtech wiring diagram so thinking bad leads next
@@misfirerotary alright bro. Really seems like an ignition issue whether it's timing or weak spark I cant say. But all that unburned fuel screams ignition issue to me. Or hes put so much fuel in the tune theres no chance of igniting it lol
Bro we just diagnosed the issue cannot bloody believe what ur was😳😳😳😳😬😬😬😬😬
@@misfirerotary what was it I've seen the video of it running but missed what the issue was.
Must be something in the tuning software if it’s got spark and fuel it should go
I recon it’s dizzy as well and be kewl to take each plug out and test one at a time just to make sure💯
I want to hear that Angel sing
Not long now brother🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Nice 😊 🤠💯🤙
Bloody good fun ay ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘
@@misfirerotary 🥳🥳👌👌🤠🤙
Dose it have a ecu if so would it need a tune
Think that’s part of the problem 👍👍
If it is the problem that's crazy because I've been tryna fix my misfire for 2 years 😆, I did just find a crack in the pcv hose so hope that's it, and don't forget I'm more than keen on clicking on the next video's to come out there fkn sick,
I'll send a few $ to help out for the tune!
Really appreciate it brother❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
build you a jump start roller billy save baterrys and starter motors
That’s fkn rad idea🤘🤘🤘I’ll try that
Jimmy oakes has a good video of starting his 13b for the first time, might be worth a quick look Ash? Might give you some ideas
Cheers brother I’ll have a geez cheers🙏🙏❤️👊
@misfirerotary he goes into alot of detail with the tune etc, i remember he was having similar issues something to do with fuel? Cheers for the epic content bro Billy and Charlie are true legends!
Cheers smokky hundy agree brother🤘👊
Voi siete miticiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii❤
🤘🤘🤘🤘wait for tonight’s vid😳
Dry plugs work wonders.
Do u think once plugs that wet they r for the bin? That’s what I usually do
Good to swap them when it's like that, but it doesn't ruin them. Definitely ignition problems tho
Ur not going to believe what the problem was vid out tmrw😬😬😬😬😬😳😳
Piss off the gilmer drive add a decent 5pk belt setup with proper pulleys and set tdc before you chase your tails all day.Leaking fuel rail sucking air wont help the injectors. Wet plugs buzzed on a wire wheel need to go..time for new plugs.Need to start off with the basics and tick them off or your just gonna go round in circles.Those rails need to be redone too..even if you get it running I can see the rails failing and burning it to the ground.
I agree bro I’m going to b the douche safety officer and cover that shit do it’s sorted👌❤️❤️❤️❤️🤘
please get it started
We will look at how the van keeps going just growing pains🤘🤘
Too many cooks in the kitchen.. Hard to troubleshoot like that. Need to go through things methodically.
Needs a full loom job
We were all pushing hard as we could as I had a flight with 4 hours togo so we were all in👍🤘🤘
We will sort it❤️❤️❤️🤘
Its not timing it should recheck take out rotors leading tailing use dia indicator when flat and both same dept then check timing make pp run alot advance or look down hole line apex to the center of tail plug make pulley then turn other apex seal to center of leading plug mark pulley then half the distance between two marks run a least 7 adv when turning could be as high as 15 advanced at 7000 rpm
Thanks my bro 👊
How could the timing be 180 out when it ran half decent the other day ?
Agree bro 👍
Fkn a was running ruff but running
Is distributor throwing out enough V .. or coil pack
You boys got a multimeter 🤙
What readings u getting on different components.
Was going to say check all the connectors and earth's n shit but you done in last vid.
Cannot wait for u to watch tmrws night video😬😬😬😬😬😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳🤘😜❤️
I just want to hear it run now …as I’m sure u guys do
We r nearly there and so many people are coming together ❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏🤘🤘