Ranking EVERY 1st Overall Pick Since MacKinnon (2024)
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- Nhl hockey today - Haven't made a ranking in a bit and wanted to make this one for a while. Little departure from the usual nhl highlights 2024 play breakdowns recaps and reactions or coverage of nhl news trades free agency signings and trade rumors, but quite a few of you have expressed wanting to see more rankings like this. This first overall draft pick list includes nathan mackinnon auston matthews connor mcdavid connor bedard macklin celebrini juraj slafkovsky alexis lafreniere nico hischier rasmus dahlin owen power and jack hughes . Also tried to provide insight on the teams involved so edmonton oilers toronto maple leafs chicago blackhawks colorado avalanche san jose sharks buffalo sabres new jersey devils new york rangers and montreal canadiens . Nhl 2024
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Rank the last 10 Stanley Cup playoff runs.
For me, Slafkovsky is above Lafrenière. 50 points at 19 while Lafrenière did it for the first time at 22 in a much better team than Slaf. Slaf just learned how to play with his body and his style here in NA. Just wait till he's 24-25... For me, he's higher than Laf because I think he can bring more to the game than just flashy skills, even though for a guy his size, he has a lot of skills.
I actually think I agree with you but part of being on a better team means early in his career laf REALLY had to fight for minutes in the lineup so it’s not all that much of an advantage but you do have a point about slaf doing more while still younger
@@brileywing8136 Yeah I also thought about that, but that also means he's playing with pretty good players. Montreal has 1 line right now, especially since Dach missed the entire season and Newhook missed almost 30 games. Slaf also started the season on the 3rd line if I remember correctly. He started playing with Suzuki and Caufield in like november/december and that's when he started to level up his game! By the way, Celebrini look like a really good player. I watched the games at the dev camp.
I agree with Nathan being number 2 and Connor #1. Nathan has played on much better teams since he came into the league than McDavid. Now if they both played on the same team, you might have to flip a coin to who is #1 :)
Of course, Slaf over Laugh 🤡
Agreed
Please also do a video ranking EVERY 2nd Overall pick since Barkov! Would love to see where Barkov and Sam Reinhart would rank now that they've won the Stanley cup. Great video!
Only if we can skip 2017… 😢
Nico is criminally underrated and so essential to the Devils. I don't think outside of Jersey people really understand how much those guys depend on him. I like the Barkov & Tkachuk = Nico & Jack reference. It's true.
Hischier is major underrated. Im an Oilers fan, but this kid has got it for sure.
Ekblad is in interesting case. In his first two seasons, the dude looked like he was going to be the real deal. Wins the Calder as an 18 year old defenseman and builds on his talent his sophomore season.
Then takes three concussions the next year. One during the World Cup and then two during the regular season, the second, being worse because he was rushed back after taking the first (Tom Rowe will always be in our hall of infamy for that). As such, his play for the next couple of seasons is solid, but not at the level we expected.
Then in 2021 he looks like he took the next step. He’s contending for the Norris, he is a force for us offensively and defensively…
And he suffered a freakish and brutal leg injury and we lose him for the season.
Not to worry, because he hits his stride the following year and continues to look like a contender for the Norris…
Only to suffer a broken ankle after colliding with a teammate.
After that, he never really returns to that level of play. He suffers another bad foot injury during our cup run in 23 and at this point, the injuries have added up and he’s not the same player anymore. Fortunately, he’s adjusted his game to be more of a stalwart defensively but at times it looks like he’s laboring out there.
I honestly don’t think he’ll play too much longer. He’ll retire in his early 30s which is sad because he was looking like he was going to be a fantastic player for us early on. But these things are part of the game. The luck of avoiding debilitating injuries plays a big role in these guys success as much as anything else. Fortunately Forsling has stepped up big for us and has blossomed into a bonafide 1dman for us.
Sums it up pretty perfectly really. His skating wasn't ever his strongest asset to begin with, but all the injuries over the years have taken their toll and it's made him a little bit of a liability when he pinches. He could of and likely would of been a lot higher up this list without those setbacks. As you said, he's done his best to modify his game to suit his current abilities, but like you I think he'll retire earlier than he otherwise would of had to without the injuries. It was great to see him lift the cup and I think he was really deserving of it, despite his drop off the past couple seasons. Now it'll be interesting to see what he does to finish off his career. I hope he realises his current worth and is happy with the money he has made and takes a team friendly contract. I'd love to see him retire a Panther but equally I can see him wanting too much and leaving at the end of his term next year. Going somewhere else who are willing to pay for that veteran cup winning experience.
Lol. You are trying to make it sound like he was an elite talent who was ruined by injuries. That is definitely not the case. Sure, injuries have had an effect on his career, but at no point he looked like a true elite Dman. He was always good. But not elite.
@@MillaQ9999 There were a couple of seasons where he pretty much was playing at "elite" level. I'm not saying he would of necessarily held on to that consistently year in year out, but he was on course to be a strong contender for the Norris in a couple of those seasons before injuries. That, and less of a drop off since his last couple leg injuries and I'd say it easily would of moved him above Slafkovsky, Laf and Hischier on this list.
@@MillaQ9999He was a bona-fide elite Dman for many years earlier in his career, and yes injuries kept him from reaching Norris-winning levels because they'd end his season whenever he was in contention.
@@MillaQ9999
he was granted exceptional status by hockey canada. he was allowed to play junior at 15.
Putting celibrini above hischier before he’s played an NHL game is craaaaazy
No, it isn't. You gotta take the fan glasses off and see that this kid is amazing. I hate that he went to San Jose I really do I wish he went to Anaheim, MTL, or really anyone besides CBJ, SJ, and CHI but I can't deny how good he is. He won't be a Makinnon, McDavid, or Bedard but I see him as a Toews with a little less defense and more offense. Hischier is just not that.
My personal favourite player will always be Nugent-Hopkins. Might not be the greatest in terms of production but I love him and his work put in
Crucially, it's important that he wasn't a generational player, because he would've ruined your chances of winning the McDavid lottery.
@@baohoaily Oilers were pretty bad in 2014-2015 so not sure a generational player would have even helped us then
No guy more deserving of a cup in my opinion.
@@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija It's hard to speculate, but you know all the idiot GM's get all horny and think the rebuild is over once they draft a mega stud. Thankfully that year wasn't that great. Even if they had drafted Kucherov instead, he probably wasn't going to alter their course that much.
@@SaveznaRepublikaJugoslavija RNH is my favorite player too, and was the reason that I been an oilers fan back when I was 11
I guess there hasn't been a miss since Yakupov. So glad Montreal didn't pick Shane Wright who still hasn't even played the first year of his entry level contract.
Guy sucks
That may be so but I think Shane is going to be just fine. Going fourth overall will be a good one. Montreal got a super competitive winger which is what they needed. And Shane Wright was dominant in his call-up at the end of the last season with 9 points in 10 games. Both kids are going to be just fine.
@@wolfdreams1545 The whole group of forwards the Kraken has been cooking up is nothing to be frown upon. They took with Wright the time Montreal would have liked to take with Slaf, MTL being a much worse team at the time did allow for him to taste the NHL sooner than Shane, which also accelerated his development. I still think Slaf is the better player overall (not by that much tho) and maybe more suited for serious playoff contention down the line, but Seattle will definitely become one of, if not The, most entertaining team to watch very soon with this group of kids having a ton of skills to their name.
Top 10 Defensemen, top 10 Forwards, top 10 Goalies? 😀
I would love to see one going over every teams forward, defence, and goalie tandem, as well as player prospects. Not necessarily rn, but some ideas for the summer which usually is pretty boring. Love the vids, keep it up!
I’ll never forget that Nashville game they lost 9-2 was my moms funeral and someone said ik this is bad timing but man the leafs the other night I said oh ya it’s just perfect 😂
Hischier gets kinda overlooked and pushed aside because of who was drafted after him, hindsight is 20/20
Hughes should be 4th on this list.
Cebrini should be at the bottom because let’s be honest he hasn’t taken a shift in the NHL yet
Hischier is great. This year was down for him bc he had to do SO much from all the defensive breakdowns the back end had.
0:06 some of the best cellys of all time tho
Hey, could you do like all-time squads for every team (like their best 3 forwards , 2 defencemen and a goalie of all time)? Might be fun series for the offseason
Very interesting exercise, yet another top one from you Johnny ! Loved it.
I would have done the switch between Lafreniere & Slaf, simply cause in spite of Lafrenière most likely racking up more points and having been truly special in those weeks you mentioned or in the playoffs, after that initial tutelage from Suzuki, Slaf has picked up that torch to become on his own a freakin motor in turning this still very rough team into a soon-to-be contender which is the very hardest thing to do in the NHL at such a young age. Lafrenière to me still looks more of the type to finish elevating a team that's already getting good, or truly Elite in that very Rangers case. (I'd say the same thing i mentioned of Slaf for Sasha Barkov vs ... well pretty much anyone not named Connor McDavid actually ahah). Loved also that you then highlighted Hischier for a similar thing as well, he makes everyone around him better, even guys who aren't used to playing on his line.
Hischier is so good dude he may not be the best player of his draft but he is the most well rounded
Nico Hischier is todays Patrice Bergeron.
That’s high praise. The only player I seen two way in the last 15-20 years was Datsyuk. No player matches those two in my opinion.
Given how bad his initial years teammate were, I think he will get to that level in the next 2-6 years and be an annually selke contender
Barkov is more akin in my opinion, Hischier is a close second
@@chrismdb5686 that’s fair
Cellebrini over Nico is absolutely & totally absurd.
I cant even. What a joke
Nico is replacing Barkov as most underrated
Nico sure is not as flashy goal wise and offense wise. But his defensive game is so strong, and he shows up every single night as a fantastic captain.
Was he the best player in the draft in terms of pure skill and talent, probably not but he was definitely the right pick for the devils at the time
i think hockey junkie has made me a bit biased but slaf is an absolute monster, and the habs are looking real scary.
might be the next dynasty.
Do a video about biggest steals from each draft since mackinnon
As a Stars fan, I cosign this! I think that's the only way I'll see a lot of my team on these ranking lists.
I'm very curious how people would look at Matthews if he played for another team.
The guy is on pace to be one of, if not the best goal scorer in NHL history but it's oh so easy to forget because, well, he plays in Toronto... And the Leafs are always gonna Leaf.
Matthews is crazy, but i think its easy to see Bedard becoming a better player
Call me crazy but there a lot of player on this that Il take after slaf in a couple years. Most people only saw a couple of games when the habs played against there team, but I saw all 82 and let me tell you he’s a 6’’4 230 lbs power forward that can anything on the ice, he can shoot, he can pass, he can go in the corner and come out with the puck, he’s really underrated on the defensive side, he can skate pretty well for his size, he’s mean, he’s everything you want a player to be.
Great video, explained your points very well in short form. Rank top 10 over 35
Rasmus Dahlin is an absolute gem to watch. Got the rare treat of watching him play in Buffalo over the winter while visiting a friend there and in person he is so much better than you’d ever know. I love Charlie McAvoy as a Bruins fan but I wish he could take just a little bit of Dahlin’s offensive instincts with him
Love Ranking videos, thanks
I know plus minus isnt the best stat. But Owen Power's 3 seasons have all been plus so far. While Dahlin was minus in 2/3 of those seasons. If he can improve his point totals i think he could be an elite two way dman
Another fantastic video my friend.
Chicago rushing to move up in the standings is a big mistake, should stay a mid team or below for many years to come.
I'll concede on the Nate ranking *only because* what you said right at the end is true - he couldn't do it alone. McDavid almost did
Kind of weird to hear Power's comparison to Ekholm and Ekblad as "non-game changers" when both players were key defensive pieces on Stanley cup final teams. Specifically Ekholm has been game changing for the Oilers since he got there. Sure, they are not $8M+ two-way talents but it's sort of apparent that winning teams need this type of defenseman on their roster while Vancouver, and Dallas couldn't get it done with stars like Hughes and Heiskanen against Edmonton this year. It was often Ekblad that shut down the Oilers at the most critical moments, just holding the puck to the boards running the clock down.
Repost, watched the whole video when it was up 30 secs after
0:53 I need that hat
You should rate every teams 1st line / projected 1st line
Nice list.
Good job.
As a Sharks fan, I hope you will make a "10 Stupidist Moves by the Sharks."
As an Avs fan, fully agreed with Mackinnon at 2 and McDavid at 1!
No shit
As an Oilers fan, I also agree.
Jack and Nico 1 & 2 I’m not biased
This is pretty accurate. Anyone who justifies putting Mackinnon over McDavid because of the Avs cup is probably biased and Matthews is a cup away and possibly even another deep playoff run after that to surpass either of these two.
No fucking way Jose. Matthews will never be even close to Mac or Mc. Matthews has a career high 107pts. Stop drinking the blue and white coolaid.
@@richardgagne3255i mean if Matthews does win the cup how can you not put him above Mack? You’re saying his career high in points is 107 but generally goal scorers have less points than playmaker because there isn’t secondary goals. It’s pretty close tho. -habs fan.
You should do logo rankings keep up the good vids I think you’re the only other flames fan I know go flames go
Pretty accurate list I’d have to say.
Love the vids
man.
While I don't agree with all of these picks, I appreciate the logic. Yes, I'd have Slafkovsky over Lafreniere (and maybe Hischier), and even if it's spicy - I'd put Bedard over Matthews. I can't argue Matthews production, and he's a totally dominant offensive player. But as you say, he's a liability when it matters, and I don't think he's got the best leadership personality traits. Bedard has sky-high potential.
But I know I'm biased too.
Personally I'd put Owen Power higher. I'd say he's like a Hedman but less offensive production. I expect a big breakout season soon. (it would be better if he got to play outside a poverty franchise).
number 1 is not even a debate
Slafkovsky lower than Lafreniere, is this a joke. Alexis needed 4 season to get 50 point and have a impact on he's team. (I know NY and MTL roster doesn't compare but still) Slaf is already an Impact player and I dont even talk about point. He's simply a game changer when he get to the Ice(compare to alexis, at least), Hard to boxout in front of the net. First to be on the puck on recovery. Always prepared for the next play. I never see that from Lafreniere.
you're factually wrong. every analytic supports laf being much better. especially 5v5 generation
It’s nice to see someone give Dahlin the respect he deserves
Did you just put Slaf over Aaron Ekblad? What on earth
Great List
No question McDavid is the best player this century, and that includes Crosby.
Bedard is gonna be great but I don't see him being above Hughes or Dahlin at the moment.. maybe in a few years and the potential is there for him to be #1 but there's no way he's #4 right now
I like how you just ended the video at #2 and didn't really explain why McDavid is #1 where's you kind of just explained why MacKinnon is #2.
Solid list, and as a Leafs fan, yep, Matthews is 3rd..... honestly, in my opinion, MacKinnon is a more complete player than McJesus.... just saying... I'd have maybe gone him at #1..... but yeah, I get it.
Rank the future of every team in the league
Love the takes I would put Owen power closer to dahlin level def above Alexi but from what we’ve seen so far I understand, just saying don’t put him in the back of the pack just yet
Crazy ekblad slander when him and Nate will be the only ones to lift the cup on this list
Lafrenier was playing with a hart level panarin he’s still good but slacofsky was great I’d switch them
You should rank the best player on every team
Hot take...Slaf has potential to be the best outside of the obvious top 4, I just think his size and versatile skill is so unique, compared to Laf, I think Slaf has atleast as much skill plus better skating and size, Slaf is also younger so more time to get better.
For anyone arguing Mac over Mc, just look at the team Mac has compared to the team Mc has. Night and day...
oilers winning the cup next year and showing everyone how good they truely are.
now don't get me wrong Mac is an exceptionnal player, but i don't see it, even if it is a team sport in 9 season McDavid has 5 art ross... think about how dominant you need to be. they are different, but connor is just better and has a better career so far and his stanley cup will come.
Love these type of videos Johnny keep it up
What is an "owen power"
Never heard of that before.
I don’t think people realize how good Owen Power will be
Anyone who argues mac should be ranked over McDavid is insane. Flat out.
Let slafkovsky take playoffs and he’ll change your mind
Slafkovsky above Lafreniere and hisher
Needs to keep it up for more than half a year first.
Absolutely bananas take
Agree 100%. Matthews might be slightly overrated. But only by 1 position… maybe.
lol
putting celebrini that high is not serious
Bedard ahead of Matthews
You just pissed off a lot of Canadian boomers by having Bedard at #4 😂😂
No he didn’t lol.
Avs fan, McJesus is #1.
Had to do the cutoff at 2013 cause you know Yak would be 1st lol. Such a oiler hater(/sarcasm)
mackinnon is the most overated player matthews is better
Number 5 Austin Mathews.
Number 4 Jack Hughes.
Number 3 Connor Bedard.
Number 2 Nathan MacKinnon
Number 1 Connor McDavid(No debate)
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Valid, I’d have matthews over Hughes though
@@mcj44 yeah the only reason I put Hughes over Mathews is because he is almost as good as him and he hasn't reached his prime
@@Crazyworld289 That’s fair
suzuki cant hold hischiers jock, what are on
Cannot lie Suzuki and Hischier are like near identical players
I still don't see where there's so much noise around Bedard. He's tracking to be about as good as RNH. That's a great hockey player, but RNH isn't usually discussed in such rare air.
Because his ppg % is just under mcdavid and Crosbys rookie year And put up a 0.9 ppg on ahl team while missing 14 games with a broken jaw, look at all the other number 1 overall picks and look at the teammates they were playing with now look at bedards he was on the 1st line with 4th liners. What do you think he will do next year with actual top 6 guys on his line
"He's tracking to be about as good as RNH."
They are nowhere near the same player. Nuge is strong utility player with about very good 2nd line, average 1st line offensive upside. Where as Bedard is tracking as a franchise forward who drives offense. He might not ever get to the same level as McDavid, maybe not even MacKinnon. But he's gonna be the best 1st overall since Matthews for sure.
If you track guys who are more undersized forwards like Point, Marchand, Gaudreau, Zucarello, Hughes or Marchessault, they almost always all peak after they get into their 20s. So give him time. I think guys like that benefit more from packing on muscle mass and learning the ropes of the NHL than the 6'-6'3" guys do. The only guy I can remember in recent history who blew the roof off the NHL in his rookie season as an undersized player was P. Kane. And Patrick Kane had the advantage of falling onto a team that already had Toews, Sharp, Keith and Seabrook. Bedard's supporting cast is ass.
There's bait, and then there's whatever this is lmao
@@mNag Sure they're not the same player. RNH was a plus player on an awful team. He had a few less points than Bedard, but played about the same number of games and helped stop the bleeding. Bedard posts a few more points but his +/- is close to league worst, isn't it?
@@ryanbudney3356 bedard isn’t that great defensively but neither was his teammates, he’s a big assist and goal guy he was never supposed to be good at defence
Oilers are going to finish dead last in the league next year
SLAFKOVSKY NOT LAST LFG
This guy disrespecting the Panthers
I hope laff becomes a bust because that pick belonged to detroit
Hughes > Bedard
Not rlly close
Hischier is truly overrated, not underrated.
McDavid -----> Mackinnon, Matthews(soon to be bedard), Hughes, Dahlin, Bedard, Hischier, Ekblad, Power, Slafkovsky, Lafreniere, Celebrini(soon to jump Laf)
nate dawg has a cup, mc shit doesn’t. end of story
Bedard is way too high
He’s getting 100 pts next year lol
Don’t get me wrong, I love my captain… but whenever someone reminds me he was drafted before Cale Makar and others, I get really sad
we could’ve gotten nolan patrick
@@missstar219 you’re right it could’ve been worse but it could’ve been better… like I said I’m not hating on my captain I love Nico
1 view in 24 seconds bro fell off
Just say NO to DRUGS , kids.
This dude has Celebrino above Nico Hischer!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡 🤡 🤡
Tell me you don’t follow prospects without telling me
First
Robert Thomas and Suzuki are significantly better than hisher
🤣
Least biased habs fan
Robert Thomas > Suzuki and hisher
Suzuki = Hisher
Mackinnon 1 for sure
Based on what?
I'm a mega Avs fan and even I don't think you can do that. I think it is a lot closer than most think, but overall, I still feel McDavid is a touch better.
Make sense but before saying that, check that one player that is pretty good. I think his name is McDavid or something.
@@joydjinn8692fuck mcoverrated that bum will never win a cup
@@grants7278 the biggest touch of all time. Not on the same levels. McDavid is on Mario/Wayne level...
i think macklin gonna be better than jack hughes
Lol 🤡
LMAO
Sid the Kid is first
this video only goes up to 2014
Since MacKinnon, read the title
Mikko was ass in the cup run for Avs
Slafkovsky is a bust
That must be the reason they gave him 60M$
@@Belial87 it’s a terrible and risky signing
@@Canucksnate We'll see in a couple of years.
@@Belial87 he’s gonna suck 🤣
The fact that you are a canucks fan makes your opinion totally worthless
The Dogg has more killer instinct man. How are you putting McFlop above him. If you put Mackinnon on the Oilers with all that talent he would have definitely got a cup by now.
Not even close. Makar won the Avs that cup. He got the Conn Smythe after all. Makar would win a cup on the Oilers. MacKinnon? Nope. MacKinnon would not even be 100 point player on the Oilers. In fact, I think MacKinnon would have been ruined on the Oilers as MacKinnon struggled until his 5th season on the Avs. The Oilers would have turned him into Yakupov.
@@odoaceroftheneoromanempire7178mcflop loses people money ! But Nathan hangs banners ! MVP and a cup . Mcdavo would trade that smith any day to win the hardest trophy in sports .
If you put McDavid on the 2022 avs, they win still. Mcdavid just won the conn smythe on a losing team. Idiot
@@connerjoyce187 MVP? He didnt win the Conn Smythe. Banners? Banner. If McDavid played on the current Avs roster they would be celebrating a 3rd straight cup right now.
@@richardgagne3255 Jesus, bud. It's all good banter. This man you respond to does not care what you say. He is set in his ways. He will give you the simple response and feed off of your reply. I learned long ago when to recognize vampires. Best to give them a little, and starve them of the rest.
Ranking McKinnon lower than McDavid is absolute madness. The guy doesn't carry himself nearly as well in the playoffs, and trying to chop people's heads off, making it look like an accident, has really made McDavid look like a fool not worthy of the crown.
To counter your argument, I'd say the Oilers would have that cup today if they had McKinnon instead.
Mcdavid just broke Gretzky's assist record in the playoffs and had over 40 points while winning the Conn Smythe, and you're saying he doesn't carry himself well?
@@Golden_Trio_HP Points aren't everything... especially in the playoffs. Theres intangibles that Mack plays with that McDavid just doesnt have as much of.
@@CrimsonicStorm name some of those intangibles
@@brendan2533 Intangibles in hockey are the things that dont show up on stat sheets, or can be measured. These are attributes like, but not limited to: heart, grit, toughness, leadership, fire, drive, willingness to engage physically etc.
This is not to say that McDavid doesnt have these things, its just Mack has them in spades and has more of them. On a 10 point scale of intangibles with a 1 being Marner and 10 being Tkachuk. McDavid would be a 5 and Mack would be a 7 or 8.
Essentially, Mack is closer to a Tkachuk type player than McDavid is. Those sorts of intangibles. If you would like to know more, a quick google search of hockey intangibles will allow you to understand it more.
@@CrimsonicStorm nice edit because you couldn't name something Mack can do that Mcdavid can't lol