There was no Russia in 1200s. edit:The spread of Slavs into Siberia happened only after 1600s so they were on the west of Urals and the Kievan Rus was a small state in the north of Black sea. Kievan Rus did not lead to current day Russia. And Russians had not reached much of the land they inhabit today. It's ridiculous to attribute one to another.
@@justacrow9847 Kievan Rus did exist and it was pretty much filled with what we could call today "Russians, Ruthenians(Ukrainians), and White Ruthenians(Belarusians)".
@Per Capita what better ones in example then? ea games? or should be still laugh at the barely mediocre stain that cyberpunk made, and everyone pulled down there pants to receive an ass fucking and got told to like it whether they wanted to or not, oh yeah remember that was from cd project the only and only company people still jerked off for being the good guys, well that worked out well. paradox still make legit games, its just they followed everyone else in bleeding dry the special needs or gullible customers they have.
@Per Capita all i was getting at is people create this illusion that some companies or brand of games care about them, or they make games for the people instead of the corps blah blah type of mentality. sadly its all business and i agree, past games probably have so much more genuine fun in them, people mix the idea that something new is something fun, when in reality after your brain is done exploring you see the real shit that the game actually is. aka cyber punk. same mentality of people who scream at EA but also buy every battlefield and every fifa game but also complaining how shit and minimally changed they are from the last, whilst saying ill not buy the next, whilst also checking when the next one will release. i wouldn't consider myself a gamer anymore its just a gullible market and a one that does deserve laughing at, like heck look at the frenzy of rgb colour spectrums coming into peripheral products and hardware, makes my skin crawl. but of course its always personal preference. i know thats a ton of blah blah from me but do you not feel like gaming was actually fun once upon a time? im thinking the priority of multiplayer might of destroyed the concept of most games. who really knows.
When I was in Mongolia a few years back I had some great discussions with my tourguide who used to be an officer during the communist regime (He even went to a military academy in Moscow). The mongolian military was structured to fight a war against the Chinese with massive arms transfers from the USSR, and so an additional reason it was never annexed was that it effectively functioned as a buffer between China and the railway infrastructure towards Irkutsk / Ulan-Ude. In a conflict the chinese would have to fight their way through Mongolia to stop soviet reinforcements from arriving by train. There is also the matter of the relatively short distance between Beijing and Ulan-Bator, so having Soviet troops massed at the border with Mongolia rather than southern Mongolia was probably a good compromise in terms of maintaining a degree of deterence and avoiding escalating tensions.
During the Sino Soviet break, the Soviets maintained about 1 million troops on the border between Mongolia and the Sino Soviet Union (600000-700000 according to the Russian data), which led China to maintain 7 million troops in order to prevent the Soviet Union, the largest record in the number of non wartime troops.
@@可爱包-c4v well im sure the USA was ready to back China against the Soviet in a war. 7 million with US support. The Soviet knew that's a fight they not willing to take.
Russia ALWAYS wants a buffer state on its borders. You know, like Ukraine. Russia doesn’t want and can Ill afford a war. But if the USA keeps pushing them they MUST fight. This is madness.
@@seneca983 For Singapore, it won't be good for them in a long term judging by how those bureocrats in the ruling party keep on milking on the past achievements of their predecessors and being dependent on them too much, it's not surprising SG might one day faced a leadership crisis and rejoined malaysia somehow as the stupid people here keep voting them, thinking they are the best option instead of looking at an alternative party to take over as next government
@Fritz No.7 the video you just watched is about Mongolia's puppet government desire to be annexed and how USSR didn't, cause the arragment was beneficial to them. Similar with People's Republic of Poland. I mean
@@cloudyfromtpotreal You are undoubtedly the best instigator since Serbia in WW1. You are about to start the second War of 1812 in the comment section. 💀
Mongolia said marry me but Russia said no because it was already getting everything it wanted without the marriage that would infuriate Mongolia's exes.
I love how like 80% of this channels videos are questions to which my reaction to is "I've never thought about that or asked it before but now I need to know." Prime example here.
@@joetrump2983 Mongolia: no way you have issues with Uighur people for no apparent reasons or is that you hate people of different culture because we lived in your state thought we’re in violation of invasion of property like the Americans had towards Mexicans...
@@Manuel-gu9ls Also china:LMAO as if the Soviets welcomed you into their lands, look at how they treated the Ukrainian and the central Asian republics, besides you are historical part of our qing dynasty and completely unrelated to the Russians
@@joetrump2983 I know its a joke, but considering that the Qing dynasty was MANCHU instead of Chinese i dont think it gives China a rightful claim even if China is the sucessor state of the Qing.
I sent a link of one of these videos with that happening to my new girlfriend with a time code telling her where to go to. The idea being that was how I felt about her
Fun fact: Mongolia was one of the largest (if not the largest) economic supporters of USSR in WWII, beating USA is several categories (e.g., food and raw materials).
Actually, USSR was giving Mongolia far, far more than what Mongolia was giving USSR. USSR had it's own beef production and margins were thin for agricultural products. Yet, USSR provided Mongolia with power stations, trains, automobiles, engineering, medical equipment, medicine, education - all high value-add, high margin products and services. The balance of it was clearly in favor of Mongolia's development and overall success.
USSR was paying off for the great deal of wartime food supplies from Mongolia in 1941-1945. Mongolians really saved lots of Soviet people from starvation during the WWII
@@antonivanov3142 Interesting! I wasn't aware of it. I know it was closely allied but didn't realize they had so much food supplies to give. I presume meat?
It was one of the Soviet Union's pet projects, like a model city for people to see how benevolent the Soviet Union could be. Also Mongolia served as a good detour for the Trans-Siberian Railway (which actually became the Trans-Mongolian Railway) and connected it to the Chinese Eastern Railway for direct access to Beijing by 1959. This is important as next year, the Sino-Soviet Split happened and the Soviets controlling direct access to their capital gave them enough leverage to threaten the Chinese.
@@mrvk39they also sent a lot of horses, clothes, money and even some tanks (but the food, clothes and horses was more significant of course). They helped a lot, unfortunately, a lot of people ignore Mongolian impact. Especially outside of post-soviet republics
Mongolia: "M8, we've had a bad case of the Ungern-Sternburgs recently. Please annex us." Russia: "Erm, yeah, nah. We're good. Had our own mess to deal with."
Well, just remember that half the planet wanted, and was until overthrown by the us, part of or friends with the USSR. Just a “fun” fact for people thinking the Soviet’s was some internationally despised thing. It was, and by its ex-citizens, is still greatly loved and missed. Just a history buff.. I do not cater to politics.
Bulgaria also asked to become a Constituent Republic of The USSR. Apparently Khrushchev was very much against this idea for similar reasons. As like Mongolia the USSR was able to acquire anything it required without having to govern the country. Khrushchev is also believed to have commented over the Bulgarian request in the following terms "We already have enough "Turkeys" (ie "Difficult Territories") in the USSR. We do not need anymore!" I suspect that this also applied to Mongolia as well.
MONGOLS ARE NOT TURKIC PEOPLE. MONGOLS ARE PROTO-MONGOLIC PEOPLE WHO ARE LINGUISTICALLY, GENETICALLY, CULTURALLY, AND RELIGIOUSLY DIFFERENT FROM THE SO-CALLED TURKIC AND TURKISH PEOPLE!!!!
that's not exactly true. It was Todor Zhivkov who did it and not just once but twice. Just like all other communist leaders of eastern european countries during the cold war he was a bootlicker, if not the biggest one. The only reason he got to the sweet spot of leader of the BCP is all thanks to his bootlicking
@@maikatideibaskapanaumrqlatupa I know that Todor Zhivkov might have wanted Bulgaria to become a constituent republic of the USSR. However Supreme Soviet certainly did Not! That is why the Bulgarian-Soviet Joint Companies were in the favour of the USSR! The point was that the USSR did not want to get lumbered with more economic problems. As effectively they had control politically and that is what mattered. Also you had Romania between Bulgaria and the USSR This could have caused potential problems. As it was the USSR was in effective control Why make things more complicated.
@@bbaker7467Mr Khrushchev didn't mean it in an ethnic sence at all. As the term "Turkeys" was meant in a political sence harking back to imperial Ottoman times when Turkey was "The Sick Man of Europe" and the word "Turkey" was used as a "cover all' describing any and all manner of corruption and incompetence on a governmental level!
It's kinda the same with Bulgaria - 2 times the Bulgarian government offered the USSR to annex Bulgaria but it refused because Bulgaria was their most trusted ally in the Balkans anyway.
Not to mention the strange plan of Triumvirate Tito - Dimitrov - Hoxha to make a Balkan federation, until another criminal, way bigger, Stalin, intervened.
The USSR was like a married man having a mistress that was already giving him everything he wanted from her. Mongolia: marry me. USSR: Nah, we're fine.
My favourite part is still that russia wanted to show everyone that it is anti imperialist by only annexing regions that were part of the russian empire. Does that make sense to russian people lol
@Mike Hunt - Communism is always progressive. This is why leftists in the West hate the West. They want to destroy it to remake it in their own binary vision. From gender studies to extreme race theory. it's all part of it.
Well, obviously Kelly is MAKING a lot of money, whereas James is SPENDING a lot of money. Maybe they're married, and the money James is spending, is what Kelly made.
Mongolian here. For contex: It was only puppet leader mini tyrant Tsedenbal's wish, even most high office holders were disgusted at idea of joining USSR. People of Mongolia also would rebel if it came true. Also, Tsedenbal not only gave the Tuva to Russia but also some other land too which is happen to be birth place of Tsedenbal himself. Tsedenbal promoted to his position because as you may guessed here, was a total pleaser. In the end, Tsedenbal was removed by same KGB which put him in that position in the first place.
Yes, once I drank too much and told a Chinese Mongolian that the Soviets were handsome, so their behavior in Mongolia was right. He was very angry and asked me to apologize after I recovered my mind. After I sincerely apologized, he gave me a brief introduction to the beautiful words of Mongolia and forgave me.
@@可爱包-c4v what has your drunken night to do with our discussion here? are u drunken again? objectively speaking, yes Soviet are more handsome than all asians including you and me only man who exceeds soviets in beauty was a chairman Mao, alas, he's gone now but still don't get what it has to do with anything here?
@ichka odko:I tell my story to support your point. Some people don't support the Soviets, such as my friend. He repeatedly stressed to me how beautiful the previous Mongolian characters were as a reason to oppose the Soviet Union. In order to show that my mind is against the Soviet Union, I put his Mongolian name out.ᠲᠠᠯᠠ ᠨᠤᠲᠤᠭ ᠤᠨ ᠬᠥᠪᠡᠭᠦᠨ 。
this story can refute the wrong view of the video that "the Soviet Union rejected Mongolia's accession because of China". In fact, the Chinese have no influence. But the Mongols (although my friend just is Mongol in spirit and blood) are very resistant to the Soviet Union.😓😓😓
@@可爱包-c4v well, technically speaking, yes, china has considerable amount of influence in this matter. Keeping Mongolia a separated both from russia and china was an interest of both china and russia. In the face of zero-sum struggle with capitalist bloc, last thing ussr wanted was to spend resource to protect its border with china along the long border line of russia, mongolia and china so keeping Mongolia independent was a one way to reduce that border protection cost. So same goes for china as well about border protection, plus china didn't want to get into zero-sum struggle with ussr, and in case, china fights with ussr, china wanted same thing as ussr, a buffer zone between them, not only it would give them arena to fight but also time to prepare.
To be fair Mexico at the time was under the dictatorship of Santa Anna, and he had been enforcing his dictorial powers around that time and restricting the rights of all Mexican citizens. Texas wasn’t the only group that rebelled against his rule in Mexico at that time
I have finally come to the realization that this is my all time favorite TH-cam channel. Crazy considering how shallow and immature I've always been. This is a channel about real stuff that actually happened, but condensed into small segments my ADHD mind can handle. Bravo, you guys rock. Ps- I especially love the little signs they hold up at key points in the videos. As you Brits say, brilliant. Whoever does that deserves a raise. That is all carry on! 😁
The fact Mongolia also made a convenient and expendable buffer state in the event China decided to become outright hostile towards the USSR was also just a added bonus, I'm sure.
The Chinese once had the opportunity to annex Mongolia again, but China wasted it. It was during the period of the division of warlords in northern China that Mongolia took the initiative to ask China for help, because the Mongols were fed up with the oppression of the Russians. However, when the Chinese warlords entered their territory, they found that these warlords were more cruel than the Russians, even more than their ancestor Genghis Khan, which made Mongolia completely fall to the Soviets
“It was already giving the USSR everything it wanted” Sounds like a desperate dude showering a woman with gifts only to be directly told by her “I’m not going to sleep with you because you’re just going to keep giving me all this stuff either way”
@@ElBandito That's how it worked under Stalin, who just generally liked to kill people, sure. But it doesn't apply to the post-Stalin period, when you had to do a proper uprising like the Hungarians for the Soviets to come murder you. Eastern Bloc states like East Germany frequently went against the Soviet Union's wishes and no-one got killed.
@@LegendStormcrow im hispanic and have mexican parents my mom legal and my father illegal lol. Personally dont care about other peoples opinions thats of the past who cares if Spain did Mexico dirty. All those people are dead todays different now. I love All Spanish Countries. Mabye except for salvador but theyre all great.
I can already hear my mother telling my sister who just moved in with her boyfriend “see? This is why you don’t give the boy all that he wants because then you don’t ever get married !”
it is. Which keeps the balance as is between Russia and China so everyone's happy, well mostly. You also have Inner Mongolia in China proper which is another story for another video.
@@garmenlin5990 a buffer need not always imply geographic or militaristic.. there are also economic, strategic, diplomatic and many types of buffers. In this case, Mongolia is a strategic buffer that can/could be used as a pawn.. uh, i mean, "insurance" against China.
Its safer to keep pro-soviet buffer countries at your borders than to have direct border with hostile neighbors. Unlike today, when Russia is getting surrounded by pro-western regimes. Gotta love Soviet geopolitics. Very wise and clever.
@@googane7755 there are plenty of examples where borders did not change by force. Think of Austria (Nazi Germany) or recently, Crimea. No war was fought in any of these cases. It was more of a show of force that was sufficient.
I love how casually you intonate joke statements like they're a perfectly normal part of the history lesson. "who simply opted to postpone the meeting to monday the 4th of never" You don't skip a beat XD
0:31 love the Divine Comedy reference! Such a great and detailed tiny joke that so many people will overlook. It took me 3 times watching this video to spot it.
You forgot to mention important role of Manchukuo, a Japanese occupied Manchuria. It was aggressively expanding at that time and trying to annex Mongolia (Battles of Khalkhin Gol and Lake Khasan and minor conflicts). For both USSR and Japan it was preferable to have a proxy military conflict then to be in a state of active War. Having independent Mongolia and Manchukuo gave place for diplomatic maneuvering while having not very controlled Kwantung Army seeking glory and promotions. That also was part of the reason why Mongolia wanted to join USSR, it would not have survived by itself between revanchist China and aggressive Japan. Actually, there was a big fountain complex built in Moscow in 1930s where Mongolia was depicted as one of the soviet republics.
Because geopolitik between china and Russia. Stalin was main Character. He had also in Yalta Conference 04.02.1945 status quot(статус квот) of Mongol from Western(USA UK) asked. Also asked from chinesen(If you let Outer Mongolia free, we'll give you weapons and soldiers against Japan). Strangely enough, the Chinese accepted this after the Hiroshima atomic bombing (08/10/1945). That shows how bad the connection was back then
Mongolia is able to stay independent because it's not a threat to its neighbors. With only three million population, it's more like a small town in China.
It's independent because it's a massive desert that doesn't really have a lot to offer in terms of gain to a superpower that already has everything. I mean...you annex, you're on the hook for roads and schools and jails and infrastructure 'n' shit
@@Bosscheesemo Mongolia made the wrong bet by siding with the USSR. Had it remained part of China, it would be a prosperous middle income country like Inner Mongolia.
It didn’t save Mongolia from USSR tho. When the Soviet troops entered they purge the ruling class and replaced them with communist puppets. They also replaced the Mongolian alphabet with a romanised alphabet. Ironically it’s the Mongolians in China who can read classic Mongolian text instead. China still suck more under communist rule btw
do they have history? they just stayed in the stone age, even today no factories no real cities you to have collect watter from well or a river, lands are plowed by ox, shiting in nature, forget about washing your face every morning
1:05 I love the fact that they went through the trouble of making a calendar with the four first squares greyed out just so they could make it match to monday the 4th XD
"Yes, let's meet again." "Great! When is a good date for you?!" "How 'bout Monday the 4th of Never?" Many more gems throughout y'all's videos. Thank you for all these chuckles.
Imagine going back in time and telling Genghis Khan that his descendants will one day beg the Rus to rule over them.
And the only reason they say no is because they don't want to piss off the chinese.
Nah only Tsedenbal wanted and people refused lot
POV: he already got the sign about this and thats why he started conquest of Rus )
Angry Mongolian noises
Not Rus, but russia.
Kiyevan Rus and russia are absolutely different.
"Hey Russia, remember when we conquered you in the 1200's? How about you return the favor?"
There was no Russia in 1200s.
edit:The spread of Slavs into Siberia happened only after 1600s so they were on the west of Urals and the Kievan Rus was a small state in the north of Black sea. Kievan Rus did not lead to current day Russia. And Russians had not reached much of the land they inhabit today. It's ridiculous to attribute one to another.
@@justacrow9847 Kievan Rus did exist and it was pretty much filled with what we could call today "Russians, Ruthenians(Ukrainians), and White Ruthenians(Belarusians)".
@@justacrow9847 "there was no Russia in 1200s" he says with a derisive snort while adjusting his monocle
Lol
truly the best comment i've ever seen
"Don't worry, i'll annex you as soon as Paradox updates my focus tree . . ."
pootis bird
So Monday 4th of never?
@Per Capita I mean the tactics are pretty shady but they still make god-tier games.
@Per Capita what better ones in example then? ea games? or should be still laugh at the barely mediocre stain that cyberpunk made, and everyone pulled down there pants to receive an ass fucking and got told to like it whether they wanted to or not, oh yeah remember that was from cd project the only and only company people still jerked off for being the good guys, well that worked out well.
paradox still make legit games, its just they followed everyone else in bleeding dry the special needs or gullible customers they have.
@Per Capita all i was getting at is people create this illusion that some companies or brand of games care about them, or they make games for the people instead of the corps blah blah type of mentality.
sadly its all business and i agree, past games probably have so much more genuine fun in them, people mix the idea that something new is something fun, when in reality after your brain is done exploring you see the real shit that the game actually is. aka cyber punk.
same mentality of people who scream at EA but also buy every battlefield and every fifa game but also complaining how shit and minimally changed they are from the last, whilst saying ill not buy the next, whilst also checking when the next one will release.
i wouldn't consider myself a gamer anymore its just a gullible market and a one that does deserve laughing at, like heck look at the frenzy of rgb colour spectrums coming into peripheral products and hardware, makes my skin crawl. but of course its always personal preference.
i know thats a ton of blah blah from me but do you not feel like gaming was actually fun once upon a time? im thinking the priority of multiplayer might of destroyed the concept of most games. who really knows.
When I was in Mongolia a few years back I had some great discussions with my tourguide who used to be an officer during the communist regime (He even went to a military academy in Moscow). The mongolian military was structured to fight a war against the Chinese with massive arms transfers from the USSR, and so an additional reason it was never annexed was that it effectively functioned as a buffer between China and the railway infrastructure towards Irkutsk / Ulan-Ude. In a conflict the chinese would have to fight their way through Mongolia to stop soviet reinforcements from arriving by train. There is also the matter of the relatively short distance between Beijing and Ulan-Bator, so having Soviet troops massed at the border with Mongolia rather than southern Mongolia was probably a good compromise in terms of maintaining a degree of deterence and avoiding escalating tensions.
During the Sino Soviet break, the Soviets maintained about 1 million troops on the border between Mongolia and the Sino Soviet Union (600000-700000 according to the Russian data), which led China to maintain 7 million troops in order to prevent the Soviet Union, the largest record in the number of non wartime troops.
@@可爱包-c4v well im sure the USA was ready to back China against the Soviet in a war. 7 million with US support. The Soviet knew that's a fight they not willing to take.
@@maolo76 the USA would choose to sit down while having a popcorn party with everyone laughing to death at the stupidity
@@3dcomrade i dont doubt that. The US is good at providing logistics and directing countries to fight her enemies.
Russia ALWAYS wants a buffer state on its borders. You know, like Ukraine. Russia doesn’t want and can Ill afford a war. But if the USA keeps pushing them they MUST fight. This is madness.
Mongolia: Tries to join a country and gets rejected.
Singapore: Tries to join a country only to get kicked out afterwards.
Malta: Tries to join the British Empire only to be passed over.
@@harveybeaver9731 technically some former SSRs also tried to remained but was also forced to be independent when USSR collapsed
Probably worked out better for both of them in the long run.
@@seneca983 there are actually talks in Mongolia to rejoin china but so far nothing out of it, even china doesn't want to Annex them
@@seneca983 For Singapore, it won't be good for them in a long term judging by how those bureocrats in the ruling party keep on milking on the past achievements of their predecessors and being dependent on them too much, it's not surprising SG might one day faced a leadership crisis and rejoined malaysia somehow as the stupid people here keep voting them, thinking they are the best option instead of looking at an alternative party to take over as next government
Monglia: annex me like one of your polish girls
USSR: uh, thanks, but no thanks
I laughed too hard at that being Polish myself
@@Johann_Gambolputty_of_Ulm HAHAHAHAH YOU AND LEGOLAS ARE LEGENDS
Estonia, Lithuania, and Latvia: trust us, it’s not as fun as it seems.
USSR didn't annex Poland
@Fritz No.7 the video you just watched is about Mongolia's puppet government desire to be annexed and how USSR didn't, cause the arragment was beneficial to them. Similar with People's Republic of Poland.
I mean
Because they didn’t have the right dlc
@gas your profile pic is perfect
Soviet Mongolia DLC the most popular and most purchased DLC
*cries in Paradox Interactive 😭
Lacking the mission tree
The Soviet Economy could not afford the Season Pass
Mongol to Rus 1240: "Bark for me."
Mongol to Rus 1920: "Woof."
There was no Rus in 1920. Rus is long since dead.
pretty much
always kinda funny how the master becomes the pet in the end
@@somedesertdude1308like with uk and america
@@cloudyfromtpotreal You are undoubtedly the best instigator since Serbia in WW1. You are about to start the second War of 1812 in the comment section. 💀
"Monday the 4th of Never" lmao.
best ever hahahaha
😂
0:53
That killed me 😂
NEVERber
Mongolia said marry me but Russia said no because it was already getting everything it wanted without the marriage that would infuriate Mongolia's exes.
Ah yes Yandare China.
Yeah this is a pretty great explanation
Big brain
Big brain
Big brain
I love how like 80% of this channels videos are questions to which my reaction to is "I've never thought about that or asked it before but now I need to know." Prime example here.
Tsedenbal: Asked to be incorporated into the USSR at least 6 times
Genghis Khan:Shame
Genghis Khan. As one of my hundreds of millions of heirs, I am shamed by this.
This is shameful behavior of a Mongol Prince!
Yeah Genghis will be died in stress like kublai if he lived on that time
Vlad lmaooooo
Zealous Doggo he wasn’t a prince, lol
Mongolia: why don't you annex me :(
Soviet: *having flashback about Mongol invasion
Well you right bro.
China: so why don't you join me instead then?
@@joetrump2983 Mongolia: no way you have issues with Uighur people for no apparent reasons or is that you hate people of different culture because we lived in your state thought we’re in violation of invasion of property like the Americans had towards Mexicans...
@@Manuel-gu9ls Also china:LMAO as if the Soviets welcomed you into their lands, look at how they treated the Ukrainian and the central Asian republics, besides you are historical part of our qing dynasty and completely unrelated to the Russians
@@joetrump2983 I know its a joke, but considering that the Qing dynasty was MANCHU instead of Chinese i dont think it gives China a rightful claim even if China is the sucessor state of the Qing.
I always laugh whenever they show the cartoon man (or woman) bounding through the daisies.☺
My favorite thing is how some people look nonplussed when they're on fire
I like it when they smile at whatever the other person's sign says.
I sent a link of one of these videos with that happening to my new girlfriend with a time code telling her where to go to. The idea being that was how I felt about her
This and when they hold up the sign that says "Soon" always crack me up.
@@joshuahoover6841 👍
Fun fact: Mongolia was one of the largest (if not the largest) economic supporters of USSR in WWII, beating USA is several categories (e.g., food and raw materials).
Albeit not war gear...
Imagine comparing Mongolia to by far the largest economy of the world at the time.
That's true, Mongolia supported USSR heavily at war time. Russians remember it.
@@phelyxzfood? They donate cheese from horsemilk? 😅😅 ain't never heard of a Mongolian farmer
@@AFT_05GThe other way around, Mongolia is secretly the number one economy
“Monday the 4th of never”
I laughed way harder than I should of at that.
Nah, it was a good joke
I'm keeping that one myself! When are you going back, Monday the fourth of Never!
I liked "and it all went, to use a technical term, to Hell."
I've heard Monday the 4th of Septober before...
...the guy actually accepted it as a legitimate date
@@Bosscheesemo I like Septober, it is probably among my five favorite months.
So it was a "Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?" situation.
Mongolia needed to play hard to get.
@Pantelis Tzimas A Mongolian can only hope😩😍
@Pantelis Tzimas Hey, it's still a win.
@@akimfritz1905 They seem to played better than China and Russia: they got away inependent, with all the perks.
It's landlocked
Where is Russia? here *points to map*
Where is China? here *points again*
Where is Tannu Tuva? *puts hand over heart* Here....
I wish the people in Tannu Tuva the best
and ofc 唐努乌梁海
Tannu What?
Tuva is annexed by Soviets from Mongolia
Gotta love how youtube is 4 years late to memes. I really hope everyone who likes this shitty comment gets their brains thrown into a blender.
Actually, USSR was giving Mongolia far, far more than what Mongolia was giving USSR. USSR had it's own beef production and margins were thin for agricultural products. Yet, USSR provided Mongolia with power stations, trains, automobiles, engineering, medical equipment, medicine, education - all high value-add, high margin products and services. The balance of it was clearly in favor of Mongolia's development and overall success.
USSR was paying off for the great deal of wartime food supplies from Mongolia in 1941-1945. Mongolians really saved lots of Soviet people from starvation during the WWII
@@antonivanov3142 Interesting! I wasn't aware of it. I know it was closely allied but didn't realize they had so much food supplies to give. I presume meat?
It was one of the Soviet Union's pet projects, like a model city for people to see how benevolent the Soviet Union could be. Also Mongolia served as a good detour for the Trans-Siberian Railway (which actually became the Trans-Mongolian Railway) and connected it to the Chinese Eastern Railway for direct access to Beijing by 1959. This is important as next year, the Sino-Soviet Split happened and the Soviets controlling direct access to their capital gave them enough leverage to threaten the Chinese.
@@mosesracal6758 I learned something new from you. Thank you!
@@mrvk39they also sent a lot of horses, clothes, money and even some tanks (but the food, clothes and horses was more significant of course). They helped a lot, unfortunately, a lot of people ignore Mongolian impact. Especially outside of post-soviet republics
So basically, it was safer for Mongolia to be a part of the USSR than to be an independent state. Gotta love this planet.
Mongolia: "M8, we've had a bad case of the Ungern-Sternburgs recently. Please annex us."
Russia: "Erm, yeah, nah. We're good. Had our own mess to deal with."
Well, just remember that half the planet wanted, and was until overthrown by the us, part of or friends with the USSR. Just a “fun” fact for people thinking the Soviet’s was some internationally despised thing. It was, and by its ex-citizens, is still greatly loved and missed.
Just a history buff.. I do not cater to politics.
@@markusmarkus7683 Man, gotta love masochistic nations.
@@Idontknowyou05 why would i love the united states?
@@jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493 Lmao every nation is a masochist.
Bulgaria also asked to become a Constituent Republic of The USSR.
Apparently Khrushchev was very much against this idea for similar reasons. As like Mongolia the USSR was able to acquire anything it required without having to govern the country. Khrushchev is also believed to have commented over the Bulgarian request in the following terms "We already have enough "Turkeys" (ie "Difficult Territories") in the USSR. We do not need anymore!" I suspect that this also applied to Mongolia as well.
MONGOLS ARE NOT TURKIC PEOPLE. MONGOLS ARE PROTO-MONGOLIC PEOPLE WHO ARE LINGUISTICALLY, GENETICALLY, CULTURALLY, AND RELIGIOUSLY DIFFERENT FROM THE SO-CALLED TURKIC AND TURKISH PEOPLE!!!!
that's not exactly true. It was Todor Zhivkov who did it and not just once but twice. Just like all other communist leaders of eastern european countries during the cold war he was a bootlicker, if not the biggest one. The only reason he got to the sweet spot of leader of the BCP is all thanks to his bootlicking
@@maikatideibaskapanaumrqlatupa I know that Todor Zhivkov might have wanted Bulgaria to become a constituent republic of the USSR. However Supreme Soviet certainly did Not! That is why the Bulgarian-Soviet Joint Companies were in the favour of the USSR! The point was that the USSR did not want to get lumbered with more economic problems.
As effectively they had control politically and that is what mattered.
Also you had Romania between Bulgaria and the USSR
This could have caused potential problems.
As it was the USSR was in effective control Why make things more complicated.
bulgaria and the ussr didn't have a direct border. you don't need anything else
@@bbaker7467Mr Khrushchev didn't mean it in an ethnic sence at all.
As the term "Turkeys" was meant in a political sence harking back to imperial Ottoman times when Turkey was "The Sick Man of Europe" and the word "Turkey" was used as a "cover all' describing any and all manner of corruption and incompetence on a governmental level!
“Monday the 4th of Never.” Lmao
Eight days before the end of disco!
**Jesus is coming back…*
*on the 666th of Never!**
*Mongolia:* "Please annex us."
*Soviet Russia:* "Oh how the tables have turned."
Russia and Mongolia are like two people in a relationship but they don’t want to say their dating so they just say friends with benefits
Mongolia was doing wife duties at girlfriend prices :/
@@josh3658edwards well said
they're*
ffs😑
" countries are like people..." please somebody call an ambulance
Mongolia was like a thot being bounced around between USSR, China and Japan. Despite being strong and independent.
1:32 Annex me (Daddy)
Whoah there-
What the fu-
lmao, girls are into that.
dude what
@@nomadictanker8100 yall are young you wont get it
@@Gibi354 nah i got it, i was just shocked cuz I'm from Mongolia lol
If you didn't notice, the sign at 1:31 said "Annex me (daddy)".
Legendary.
We live in society
@@whenweeb6471 where honor is a distant memory
Mongolia, used to be the most powerful warrior, became a kinky simp for the Rus
I had to turn my quality to 1080p to see that.
I LOVE IT
It's kinda the same with Bulgaria - 2 times the Bulgarian government offered the USSR to annex Bulgaria but it refused because Bulgaria was their most trusted ally in the Balkans anyway.
Not to mention the strange plan of Triumvirate Tito - Dimitrov - Hoxha to make a Balkan federation, until another criminal, way bigger, Stalin, intervened.
The USSR was like a married man having a mistress that was already giving him everything he wanted from her.
Mongolia: marry me.
USSR: Nah, we're fine.
I promise baby, I'll split with China once the Warsaw Pact is all grown up and out of the house.
"You lose the wife, you lose the mistress also" -Žižek
DellDuckfan313 dayamnnm details details, this man Soviets
''too old'' xDDD
Loooool
Most countries: "LEAVE US ALONE! WE WANT OUR INDEPENDENCE!"
Mongolia: "Oh come on, why don't you love me? Am I too fat??"
Actually I want to Chat to you about something.
I love how this channel answers the most odd yet obvious questions that we always and yet never think about
Exactly and I rather watch this guy then look it up in boring wikipedia
Yep! This is why this is one of my favorite history channels inn TH-cam.
And then gives misleading answers, deceives.
My favourite part is still that russia wanted to show everyone that it is anti imperialist by only annexing regions that were part of the russian empire. Does that make sense to russian people lol
@@Borzasnyulwhat do you mean misleading answers?
Americans: "the Soviet Union was terrible and no one wanted to live there"
Mongolia: "LET ME INNNNNNNN!!!!!"
Anything to get away from China.
@Mike Hunt They don't. They basically recognized Mongolians independence like in 2002.
@Mike Hunt - Communism is always progressive. This is why leftists in the West hate the West. They want to destroy it to remake it in their own binary vision. From gender studies to extreme race theory. it's all part of it.
@@namelessking8905 "What the fuck are you talking about Jesse."
@@namelessking8905 Communism doesn't woorrkkkk
Thank you: you answered all the questions I've had on the subject for many years!
In today’s episode of “something I’ve never thought about but now am extremely Interested in”
Let me guess before watching the video: In order to not cause tension with China.
Dont be crazy it’s because nobody wants to mess with the descendants of Genghis khan
@@altairibnlaahad6593 Of course, how did I fail to realize this.
USSR 🤝 CDPR
DIng ding ding
@@altairibnlaahad6593 But they did mess with Genghis' descendants - by refusing to annexing them
When you are Kelly MONEYMAKER but still can't make enough money to beat James Bissonet
[laughs in Spinning 3 Plates]
Izzie?
Well, obviously Kelly is MAKING a lot of money, whereas James is SPENDING a lot of money.
Maybe they're married, and the money James is spending, is what Kelly made.
Faux BoJo has also had some old names turn up behind him! This makes Faux BoJo a bit despondent ☹️
@@Tjalve70 Intriguing theory. Perhaps they all belong to the same extended family.
Fascinating. I’ve always wondered why Mongolia never was a part of the Soviet Union. They even used the Cyrillic alphabet.
If the USSR annexed Mongolia it would mean that the Mongol empire would’ve kinda reformed
if the ussr had annexed mongolia they would have conquered the world
Comrade Genghis Khan
That was their plan all along (・_・;)
@@GEO_ANIMATOR Don't listein to those European lies Genghis Khan wrote the communist manifesto
@Kurishev Tulipov A communist king? That do be wildin' tho
Mongolia in 1206: Annexes you
Mongolia in 1940 : Annex me daddy!
Нет Нет, Cursed Cursed Cursed.
And Soviet is MOTHERland
Doritos gaming
@@Joseph_Stalin1940 alrighty then
Annex me mommy
@@duolingoowl8207 No Duolingo no.
@@Joseph_Stalin1940 *yes Duolingo yes*
In relationship terms and from the Soviet perspective......
Mongolia : the girl you love to sleep with but never want to marry
So mongolia got friendzoned?
@@artanisplays3982 You don't really have s*x with a friend....
@@BatCostumeGuy ayo watch your words
@@BatCostumeGuy Mongolia was a friend with benefits
@@BatCostumeGuy Friends with benefits?
These videos do a good job of making it feel longer than it actually is in a good way
The ussr denied the annexation when Mongolia’s chairman called Nikita Khrushchev daddy instead of Premier of the Soviet Union.
If that was me I would’ve annexed them right away
@Da sea pickle of justice *oh no Step Comrade i've been so naughty, please send me to your gulag*
daddy, why arent u responding, i sent u my food stock pictures
Oh secretary of the communist party is that an bread line in your pocket or are you just happy to enjoy our conservative socialist thinking~?
Oh!......wtf?
Mongolian here. For contex: It was only puppet leader mini tyrant Tsedenbal's wish, even most high office holders were disgusted at idea of joining USSR. People of Mongolia also would rebel if it came true. Also, Tsedenbal not only gave the Tuva to Russia but also some other land too which is happen to be birth place of Tsedenbal himself. Tsedenbal promoted to his position because as you may guessed here, was a total pleaser. In the end, Tsedenbal was removed by same KGB which put him in that position in the first place.
Yes, once I drank too much and told a Chinese Mongolian that the Soviets were handsome, so their behavior in Mongolia was right. He was very angry and asked me to apologize after I recovered my mind. After I sincerely apologized, he gave me a brief introduction to the beautiful words of Mongolia and forgave me.
@@可爱包-c4v what has your drunken night to do with our discussion here? are u drunken again? objectively speaking, yes Soviet are more handsome than all asians including you and me only man who exceeds soviets in beauty was a chairman Mao, alas, he's gone now but still don't get what it has to do with anything here?
@ichka odko:I tell my story to support your point. Some people don't support the Soviets, such as my friend. He repeatedly stressed to me how beautiful the previous Mongolian characters were as a reason to oppose the Soviet Union. In order to show that my mind is against the Soviet Union, I put his Mongolian name out.ᠲᠠᠯᠠ ᠨᠤᠲᠤᠭ ᠤᠨ ᠬᠥᠪᠡᠭᠦᠨ 。
this story can refute the wrong view of the video that "the Soviet Union rejected Mongolia's accession because of China". In fact, the Chinese have no influence. But the Mongols (although my friend just is Mongol in spirit and blood) are very resistant to the Soviet Union.😓😓😓
@@可爱包-c4v well, technically speaking, yes, china has considerable amount of influence in this matter. Keeping Mongolia a separated both from russia and china was an interest of both china and russia. In the face of zero-sum struggle with capitalist bloc, last thing ussr wanted was to spend resource to protect its border with china along the long border line of russia, mongolia and china so keeping Mongolia independent was a one way to reduce that border protection cost. So same goes for china as well about border protection, plus china didn't want to get into zero-sum struggle with ussr, and in case, china fights with ussr, china wanted same thing as ussr, a buffer zone between them, not only it would give them arena to fight but also time to prepare.
Texas: “can we join you?”
USA: “no”
Texas: “because of the slavery thing?”
USA: “yes.... but check back later, we might change our mind.”
USA: " You cool Texas sure you can join, I sure hope this doesn't cause any issues within the union."
Mexico: 👀
@@GeneralSmitty91 We've sponsored your rebels in California, oh and we're at war now.
Texas "We wont let go the freedom to enslave other humans. The mexicans didnt get it and look what happened"
To be fair Mexico at the time was under the dictatorship of Santa Anna, and he had been enforcing his dictorial powers around that time and restricting the rights of all Mexican citizens. Texas wasn’t the only group that rebelled against his rule in Mexico at that time
I have finally come to the realization that this is my all time favorite TH-cam channel. Crazy considering how shallow and immature I've always been. This is a channel about real stuff that actually happened, but condensed into small segments my ADHD mind can handle. Bravo, you guys rock.
Ps- I especially love the little signs they hold up at key points in the videos. As you Brits say, brilliant. Whoever does that deserves a raise. That is all carry on! 😁
One of these days, the list of people to thank will be longer than the rest of the video.
Didn't it loop sometimes?
"Annex me (daddy)"
*I see you're a man of culture as well*
Ok.
Why are you everywhere?
Man of culture?
What Culture?
Child Predator?
-"Please annex me, daddy"
-"WTF no"
Not into the whole daddy thing, but “please annex me” sounds kinda hot. xD
@@domsjuk LMAO and your name is dom, suree
@@beaub152 he is such a con
@@beaub152 whats wrong about it
Sounds kinky and pornographic
Everyone: why wouldn't Russia take Mongolia?
Russia: why would we?
Mongolia? Nyet.
The fact Mongolia also made a convenient and expendable buffer state in the event China decided to become outright hostile towards the USSR was also just a added bonus, I'm sure.
The Chinese once had the opportunity to annex Mongolia again, but China wasted it. It was during the period of the division of warlords in northern China that Mongolia took the initiative to ask China for help, because the Mongols were fed up with the oppression of the Russians. However, when the Chinese warlords entered their territory, they found that these warlords were more cruel than the Russians, even more than their ancestor Genghis Khan, which made Mongolia completely fall to the Soviets
1:25 LMAO I don't blame you I wouldn't even know where to start with that name.
“It was already giving the USSR everything it wanted”
Sounds like a desperate dude showering a woman with gifts only to be directly told by her “I’m not going to sleep with you because you’re just going to keep giving me all this stuff either way”
Mongolia biggest commie simp of the 20th century.
@888GRM your way round makes much more sense.
Fuck's sake, I hate women having in that kind of power.
Actually the alternative of not doing SU's bidding was death, as Stalin's purges killed 1/30th of the Mongolian population during 1930s.
@@ElBandito That's how it worked under Stalin, who just generally liked to kill people, sure. But it doesn't apply to the post-Stalin period, when you had to do a proper uprising like the Hungarians for the Soviets to come murder you. Eastern Bloc states like East Germany frequently went against the Soviet Union's wishes and no-one got killed.
Short but very informative video, thank you for sharing your work.
“Monday the 4th of never”
I like that line
It's every girl's answer when I ask them out...
*Legend has it that China and the Soviet Union is still waiting for the meeting to this day.*
Soviet Union last online 30 years ago
😔
Good luck with that 😆.
They have waited long enough. Both sides officially given up on it around 20 years ago and accepted the independence.
I was always curious about this. Thanks!
This man’s video’s just keep getting better and better 👍
1:01 Joseph earns his name: Stallin’.
Lol.haha
Kek
k e k
k e k
k e k
When Texas first asked to be annexed to the US it was told no.
@CipiRipi00 The US or Spain?
@CipiRipi00 I thought you were saying Mexico tried it too, which knowing their history and culture would be surprising. Spain did them dirtt.
@CipiRipi00 it wasnt just war with mexico, other states didnt want to add another state below the dixie line.
@@Cabbage22927 ah racist democrats! Yes yes the dixiecrats!
@@LegendStormcrow im hispanic and have mexican parents my mom legal and my father illegal lol. Personally dont care about other peoples opinions thats of the past who cares if Spain did Mexico dirty. All those people are dead todays different now. I love All Spanish Countries. Mabye except for salvador but theyre all great.
it's always "James Bissonnette this" or "Kelly Moneymaker that", but only day one subscribers will remember Party Boyko...
Spinning 3 Plates and CopperTone disagree
Mark Asazna is never mentioned in the comments ever. But for some reason, I think his name sounds great.
you guys forget...
''Moe''
E
I always liked three spinning plates
Fascinating stuff. I had absolutely no clue about this. It's not often I hear or read something absolutely brand new to my brain!
I can already hear my mother telling my sister who just moved in with her boyfriend “see? This is why you don’t give the boy all that he wants because then you don’t ever get married !”
Nice comparison
Unexpected life lesson from historic content lmao
I always just thought it was a buffer state between China and the Soviets
It's not a buffer state if the Russian and Chinese borders meet in so many places!
it is. Which keeps the balance as is between Russia and China so everyone's happy, well mostly. You also have Inner Mongolia in China proper which is another story for another video.
@@garmenlin5990 a buffer need not always imply geographic or militaristic.. there are also economic, strategic, diplomatic and many types of buffers. In this case, Mongolia is a strategic buffer that can/could be used as a pawn.. uh, i mean, "insurance" against China.
It stopped to be a buffer already when it was virtually part of USSR and was only independent in name
@@plugandsocket500 but tbh Mongolia have a VERY good relationship with Russia
1:26 😂🤣😂. That's why I subscribed.
Yeah that part was great frrr
That was super informative, thank you!
“Sell us beef.” I’m sure some people will miss the joke.
what is the joke?
If someone tells it im replying to get notified
@@narendraii2139 Mongolian Beef.
Yeah i didn't get It either
@@Sexysendeli Include me in that
1:00 that part killed me🤣
Can you imagine a world without Mongolia? Everything would be so different. I cannot imagine it.
Its safer to keep pro-soviet buffer countries at your borders than to have direct border with hostile neighbors. Unlike today, when Russia is getting surrounded by pro-western regimes. Gotta love Soviet geopolitics. Very wise and clever.
It worked until the entire soviet bloc became pro western. Geopolitics is temporary but borders only change by force.
@@googane7755 there are plenty of examples where borders did not change by force. Think of Austria (Nazi Germany) or recently, Crimea. No war was fought in any of these cases. It was more of a show of force that was sufficient.
"very wise and clever" ? my senile 80+ year-old mother can easily come to that
One of questions that I was searching for answer for an long time
This was a legit question I was asking for the longest time
I love how casually you intonate joke statements like they're a perfectly normal part of the history lesson. "who simply opted to postpone the meeting to monday the 4th of never" You don't skip a beat XD
yeah it's standard British humor its famous for being dry and sarcastic
i don't remember if it's on this video but there's also the classic "But fun fact: No."
0:31 love the Divine Comedy reference! Such a great and detailed tiny joke that so many people will overlook. It took me 3 times watching this video to spot it.
You forgot to mention important role of Manchukuo, a Japanese occupied Manchuria. It was aggressively expanding at that time and trying to annex Mongolia (Battles of Khalkhin Gol and Lake Khasan and minor conflicts). For both USSR and Japan it was preferable to have a proxy military conflict then to be in a state of active War. Having independent Mongolia and Manchukuo gave place for diplomatic maneuvering while having not very controlled Kwantung Army seeking glory and promotions. That also was part of the reason why Mongolia wanted to join USSR, it would not have survived by itself between revanchist China and aggressive Japan. Actually, there was a big fountain complex built in Moscow in 1930s where Mongolia was depicted as one of the soviet republics.
Fascinating! If that was how the depiction is meant then there WERE probably serious considerations
Mongolians kind of forget that they owe their entire independence to the USSR from their formation to the after years
@@TorontoWire Mongolians themselves fought like hell to attain independence as well, both in conflicts and in diplomatic maneuvers.
1:32 I completely believe that is what he actually said on the sign
"decided to postpone the meeting to monday 4th of never" LMAO
So interesting! I have visited Mongolia, but did not know this.
it is just a fairy tale
The signs in these videos make them much better
Ah, the one-sided relationship where one side gets the benefits without going public about it.
Relatable
I've wanted this to covered for a LONG time. I've always wondered how Mongolia was able to stay independent. Thanks for this 👍
Because geopolitik between china and Russia. Stalin was main Character. He had also in Yalta Conference 04.02.1945 status quot(статус квот) of Mongol from Western(USA UK) asked. Also asked from chinesen(If you let Outer Mongolia free, we'll give you weapons and soldiers against Japan). Strangely enough, the Chinese accepted this after the Hiroshima atomic bombing (08/10/1945). That shows how bad the connection was back then
Mongolia is able to stay independent because it's not a threat to its neighbors. With only three million population, it's more like a small town in China.
It's independent because it's a massive desert that doesn't really have a lot to offer in terms of gain to a superpower that already has everything.
I mean...you annex, you're on the hook for roads and schools and jails and infrastructure 'n' shit
@@Bosscheesemo Mongolia made the wrong bet by siding with the USSR. Had it remained part of China, it would be a prosperous middle income country like Inner Mongolia.
@@2KSnSLifestyle
Yeah but the downside is being part of China.
Even knowing most of this, I still love watching this channel.
what's with the country that name's start with letter M asking to be annex and be refused? First Malta and now Mongolia
1:25... you probably pronounced that better than most of us ever could.
No one pronounces Mongolian names correctly
Genghis Khan: pathetic
That short Lithuania reference legit made me chuckle :))
I always give my thanks to James Bissonete for constantly give charity to this channel
I mean, in an ironic twist of events, the USSR saved Mongolia from the PRC...
It was a reasonably benevolent big brother
It didn’t save Mongolia from USSR tho.
When the Soviet troops entered they purge the ruling class and replaced them with communist puppets.
They also replaced the Mongolian alphabet with a romanised alphabet. Ironically it’s the Mongolians in China who can read classic Mongolian text instead.
China still suck more under communist rule btw
"Saved"
They can't be saved from something good.
@@eduardog3000 It is not good. Is china good? Culture revolution, great famine, take it !
@Hernando Malinche China is still bad.
I just want to speak for everyone we need an Tannu Tuva history video
yep
Tanu what?
Usually I'd be upset, but this time thank you for speaking for me.
@@fulcrum2951 came here for this
do they have history? they just stayed in the stone age, even today no factories no real cities you to have collect watter from well or a river, lands are plowed by ox, shiting in nature, forget about washing your face every morning
1:05 I love the fact that they went through the trouble of making a calendar with the four first squares greyed out just so they could make it match to monday the 4th XD
That character break was really outta nowhere, but extremely well done
"Monday, the fourth of never" is also my favourite day to do my pending works.
IT CAN’T BE COINCIDENCE AAHHHHH
yesterday I was thinking: why the Soviet Union refused to annex Mongolia? It would be a very good history maters video
Thanks for using metric!
@@FixdalOK down with the imperials!
History Meters? What happened to History Centimeters?
@@failuretv814 don't forget history kilometres, most historic things came in km!
Love how these are short
so basically your telling me Mongolia had a crush on USSR
"Annex me(daddy)" lol that part got me
Because their was no focus for it in the focus tree, unlike for Tannu Tuva.
Damn it paradox !
@@failuretv814 Perhaps in the new hopefully soon USSR focus tree.
I didn't know this. Thank you!
"Monday, the 4th of Never" 😂😂
A question that I didn't know I needed the answer to.
James Bizinette has asked to be annexed into History Matters, but he's already giving them everything they need (sponsorship)
"Yes, let's meet again."
"Great! When is a good date for you?!"
"How 'bout Monday the 4th of Never?"
Many more gems throughout y'all's videos. Thank you for all these chuckles.